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post #871 of 1174
I know what your talking about I updated mine yesterday I still need to exchange this one though because of the light leakage problem.

I'm uploading some pics now, if anyone has this problem please let me know thank you.
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post #873 of 1174
The light leakage or panel not being sealed properly to the bezel, I've had it worse on other 802's this model only has it on the bottom bezel.


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A while back, some of you had asked for my picture settings. Obviously everyone has their own tastes, preferences and different ambient factors such as room lighting, etc., but after spending more time with my 47w802a I've got it dialed in perfectly for my room and preferences. This unit is in our bedroom (have the epic 55HX929 in the LR) where I mostly watch at night. I like a very true and life-like picture with just a little extra brightness and color pop. These settings look amazing and I am still very impressed with this monitor and feel it is the best in it's class and price range. I mostly watch via BD player or streamed HD content and these settings reflect that. When watching HD TV from my cable provider the colors are overly saturated so I have noted a couple different settings for TV input.

Picture Mode Cinema 1 (For TV I use Standard)
Backlight 6
Picture 87
Brightness 48
Color 56 (For HD TV I use 51)
Hue 0
Color Temperature Warm 1
Sharpness 48
Noise Reduction Off
MPEG Noise Reduction Off
Dot Noise Reduction Off
Reality Creation Off
Video Area Detection Off
Resolution Min
Noise Filtering Min
Smooth Gradation Off
Motionflow Off
CineMotion Off

Advanced Settings sub menu:
Black Corrector Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer Off
Gamma -1
LED Dynamic Control Low
Auto Light Limiter Off
Clear White Off
Live Color Off
White Balance [see below]
Detail Enhancer Off
Edge Enhancer Off
Skin Naturalizer Off
Display Speed Preference Off

White Balance sub-menu
R-Gain 0
G-Gain 0
B-Gain -3
R-Bias 0
G-Bias 0
B-Bias 0

-Preferences
Eco sub-menu
Power Saving: Off
Scene Select Sync Off
Illumination LED: off
Light Sensor Off
post #877 of 1174
PS The built in speakers sound like complete muddy crap out of the box so for those of you who don't have external speakers, you may want to tweak the equalizer settings drastically. Out of the box it's so muddy in the mid-range that I could hardly understand what anyone was saying, everything was just drowned out and middy but after much tweaking, it actually sounds pretty good now and I can hear crisp dialog even at lower volumes.


SOUND:

Standard
Booster Off

Equalizer:

100Hz +5
200Hz -2
500Hz -4
1K -2
5K +6
10K +8
post #878 of 1174
I've never seen LED dynamic control in any of my submenus on the kdl-47w802a very weird.
post #879 of 1174
Is there a change log for the latest update? I like to know what changes they made. Also, does my W802A support x.v.Color?
post #880 of 1174
What to do with the technology super bit mapping of tv leave on or off?
post #881 of 1174
its defaulted to on so i just kept mine on i really don't even know what it is, but i tried it both on and off it didn't seem to make a difference.
post #882 of 1174
Anyone on here compare the W802A against the W900A? I know the 900 is supposed to have superior black but is the 1k bump in price worth it?
post #883 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr P510 View Post

Quick update.
I've had this set '55 for about a month now.The uniformity of the black levels was...lets say not very consistent.Honestly it didn't worry me that much.
Sony pushed down a software update a few days ago that has Totally fixed my black level uniformity. It's totally even all over the screen now.

I just fell more in love with this unit.Good job Sony.smile.gif

I agree this latest software has made my set look really sharp
post #884 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cla55clown View Post

Is there a change log for the latest update? I like to know what changes they made. Also, does my W802A support x.v.Color?

It's here, but not much help:
http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=KDL55W802A&template_id=1&region_id=1&tab=download#/downloadTab

System Software Update
Release Date 10/11/2013
Version PKG3.802AAA
File Size 159.85 MB

Improvements over version PKG3.710AAA:
- Improved performance and stability of the Internet features

Benefits provided by previous updates and included in version PKG3.802AAA:
- Improves stability of the sound output with a Blu-ray Disc™ player using an HDMI® connection
post #885 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by rkodey View Post

It's here, but not much help:
http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=KDL55W802A&template_id=1&region_id=1&tab=download#/downloadTab

System Software Update
Release Date 10/11/2013
Version PKG3.802AAA
File Size 159.85 MB

Improvements over version PKG3.710AAA:
- Improved performance and stability of the Internet features

Benefits provided by previous updates and included in version PKG3.802AAA:
- Improves stability of the sound output with a Blu-ray Disc™ player using an HDMI® connection

Yeah, that's pretty vague to say the least. I guess mostly bug fixes. One bug they didn't fix was in the Netflix app. When hitting the return button to exit out of the Netflix app, after hitting 'Yes' that you indeed want to exit, it just hangs at 'Exiting...' and you have to actually hit the Home key to get out of it. Not a big deal but wish they would address it.
post #886 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by jim brice View Post

I know what your talking about I updated mine yesterday I still need to exchange this one though because of the light leakage problem.

I'm uploading some pics now, if anyone has this problem please let me know thank you.

I have the exact same problem on my panel. Its there only on the bottom portion not on the sides and on the top. This issue only recently cropped up on my set as I specially did a thorough inspection of the panel when my set arrived and there was no light leakage on any sides. I don't know if changing the set would do any good cause mine had no issues whatsoever when it arrived and I checked mine in pitch darkness.

Does this issue on your set create a problem while watching movies at night?
post #887 of 1174
Hi. Just purchase the 47W802a . I am looking for the calibration setting while watching DirectTV.
post #888 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by webman9967 View Post

Hi. Just purchase the 47W802a . I am looking for the calibration setting while watching DirectTV.

Ummm, look about 11 posts above yours for some settings that mafia posted. Doesn't guarantee that they will look good in your specific application but might be a good place to start. Get yourself a calibration BD to fine tune it more.
post #889 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sehej Rana View Post

I have the exact same problem on my panel. Its there only on the bottom portion not on the sides and on the top. This issue only recently cropped up on my set as I specially did a thorough inspection of the panel when my set arrived and there was no light leakage on any sides. I don't know if changing the set would do any good cause mine had no issues whatsoever when it arrived and I checked mine in pitch darkness.

Does this issue on your set create a problem while watching movies at night?

no its only really noticeable when your cleaning it or looking right at it, how about you? does it effect your night time viewing? and sony will swap it out right away for this problem trust me, just be tough lol.
post #890 of 1174
This is my personal calibration for the W805A (W802A in US), I've use the AVS HD 709 calibration tool then a personal touch.

Computer
Code:
Scene Selection: Graphic
Picture Mode: Graphic
Backlight: 3
Picture: 46
Brightness: 48
Color: 50
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Neutral
Sharpness: 50
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
Reality Creation: Auto
Video Area Detection: Auto
Smooth Gradation: Low
Motionflow: Off
Cinemotion: Off

Advanced Settings
Black Corrector: Low
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Gamma: 0
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear white: Off
Live Color: Off
Detail Enhancer: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off
Display Speed Preference: On

Blu-Ray 2D
Code:
Scene Selection: Cinema
Picture Mode: Cinema 1
Backlight: 4
Picture: 78
Brightness: 49
Color: 52
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Neutral
Sharpness: 43
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
Reality Creation: Manual
Video Area Detection: Off
Resolution: Min
Noise Filter: Min
Smooth Gradation: Low
Motionflow: Clear
Cinemotion: Off

Advanced Settings
Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Low
Gamma: -2
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear white: Low
Live Color: Low
Detail Enhancer: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off

Blu-Ray 3D
Code:
Scene Selection: Cinema
Picture Mode: Cinema 2
Backlight: 9
Picture: 84
Brightness: 46
Color: 50
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Neutral
Sharpness: 51
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
Reality Creation: Manual
Video Area Detection: Off
Resolution: 13
Noise Filter: Min
Smooth Gradation: Off
Motionflow: Off
Cinemotion: Auto

Advanced Settings
Black Corrector: Low
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Low
Gamma: -2
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear white: Low
Live Color: Low
Detail Enhancer: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off

Playstation 3
Code:
Scene Selection: Game
Picture Mode: Game-Neutral
Backlight: 5
Picture: 56
Brightness: 40
Color: 52
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Neutral
Sharpness: 52
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
Reality Creation: Auto
Video Area Detection: Off
Smooth Gradation: Low
Motionflow: Off
Cinemotion: Off

Advanced Settings
Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Low
Gamma: 0
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear white: Off
Live Color: Off
Detail Enhancer: Low
Edge Enhancer: Medium
Skin Naturalizer: Off
Display Speed Preference: On

Enjoy
post #891 of 1174

Just purchased a 55 inch 802.  Despite hours of trying to get it to connect with my computer wirelessly no success. It can access a few folders and files but not all.  Also, when I upload the files they do not appear.  Any help will be appreciate.

post #892 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by jim brice View Post

no its only really noticeable when your cleaning it or looking right at it, how about you? does it effect your night time viewing? and sony will swap it out right away for this problem trust me, just be tough lol.

Recently i have had the problem of the back light leaking into the screen from the bottom left and right corners. this issue cropped up just 2 days days back i have taken 2 photos one was taken on the 15th of this month and the other just yesterday. this was taken on the 15th at night in total darkness.

this one was just taken yesterday i.e on 20th October just 5 days apart.
post #893 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sehej Rana View Post

Recently i have had the problem of the back light leaking into the screen from the bottom left and right corners. this issue cropped up just 2 days days back i have taken 2 photos one was taken on the 15th of this month and the other just yesterday. this was taken on the 15th at night in total darkness.

this one was just taken yesterday i.e on 20th October just 5 days apart.

These just look like pics of your typical clouding or back light bleeding pretty normal but yours is worse then mine you should call sony and swap, maybe then they will realize this tv should have a recall lol.
post #894 of 1174
well, using settings based on turning light sensor on didn't really pan out so i turned it back off. using it definitely allows you to make the screen as dark as possible but even picture at max can't bring enough pop. i decided to revert back to a modified version of cnet's settings.

Scene: Cinema(i noticed that scene: General had more contrast or color even with exactly the same settings as scene: Cinema)
Mode: Cinema 1
Backlight: 1
Picture: 81
Brightness: 50
Color: 47
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 2
Sharpness: 48
ACE: Low
Gamma: -2
White Balance: all 0 (i forgot that i set bgain to -3 from cnet's settings a few weeks ago and that may have caused a slight blue tinge on blacks, but with bgain at 0 it seems blacks are more black now but i'm not entirely sure)

everything else off, personal preference of motionflow: standard

some notes:
sound - i use a sound system, but for the tv speakers, i found that the compressed audio setting sounded pretty decent for cable
viewing angles - good for colors, average for blacks
daytime/bright room viewing - very good, especially coming from a 6 year old plasma whose picture would wash out during the day
motionflow: true cinema - aside from the motionflow effect, i noticed that it changes the color to a slightly warmer tone
backlight bleeding - my set had some medium bleed at the beginning but it is almost non existent now. i tried gently massaging the parts that were bright and lightly pressing the tv's border to get the edges. doing this might have helped or maybe it just evened out naturally after some time, hard to tell
frame dimming switch during complicated dark scenes - can be distracting, still hoping for a firmware fix that will address it by making it possible to turn ACE on permanently but i doubt it
post #895 of 1174
[/quote]These just look like pics of your typical clouding or back light bleeding pretty normal but yours is worse then mine you should call sony and swap, maybe then they will realize this tv should have a recall lol.[/quote]

This is pure back light bleeding issue if you notice there is no such issue in the first pic. This problem erupted just recently i wonder why.

This pic was taken on the second day the set arrived. As you can see there is no light bleeding problem.
post #896 of 1174

I got the 55" 802A

 

This was kind of out of my budget but after seeing all the lag times of other LED TVs in my research this seems to be the best input lag for a set over 50"  I found it for under 1300 at some local electronics store so I went for it being its about 1500 everywhere else I look

 

I'm not happy with some of the stuff i'm reading on here (over reflective screen, not so good black levels and so on, plus all reviews saying you can get a LG or Samsung with an equally good picture for like 500 less dollars, but lag is lag and I read reviews of all those others and gamers did not have good things to say about them but seem to praise this Sony TV as far as game response time.

 

Don't laugh, or choke on your food, but this will be my FIRST non-CRT TV.  I have been using a 27 inch CRT HDTV with component cables in 1080i mode for most things but needed to finally make the plunge.  I really wish they still made CRTs, who cares if they are 400 pounds, lol

 

So being this is my first semi-modern setup.  I noticed this TV has an optical out and my stereo receiver has an optical in, even though I've never used it and just had everything connected through RCAs thus far

 

So if I have everything connected to the TV and the optical out connected from this TV to the receiver, does that mean I'll hear everything from every input in the stereo?  Will sound still come out of the TV speakers? 

 

Also, thanks to all that took the hard work to post calibration settings, looking forward to messing around with the ones I've seem posted here

 

Cheers!


Mike

post #897 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtamborra View Post

I got the 55" 802A

This was kind of out of my budget but after seeing all the lag times of other LED TVs in my research this seems to be the best input lag for a set over 50"  I found it for under 1300 at some local electronics store so I went for it being its about 1500 everywhere else I look

I'm not happy with some of the stuff i'm reading on here (over reflective screen, not so good black levels and so on, plus all reviews saying you can get a LG or Samsung with an equally good picture for like 500 less dollars, but lag is lag and I read reviews of all those others and gamers did not have good things to say about them but seem to praise this Sony TV as far as game response time.

Don't laugh, or choke on your food, but this will be my FIRST non-CRT TV.  I have been using a 27 inch CRT HDTV with component cables in 1080i mode for most things but needed to finally make the plunge.  I really wish they still made CRTs, who cares if they are 400 pounds, lol

So being this is my first semi-modern setup.  I noticed this TV has an optical out and my stereo receiver has an optical in, even though I've never used it and just had everything connected through RCAs thus far

So if I have everything connected to the TV and the optical out connected from this TV to the receiver, does that mean I'll hear everything from every input in the stereo?  Will sound still come out of the TV speakers? 

Also, thanks to all that took the hard work to post calibration settings, looking forward to messing around with the ones I've seem posted here

Cheers!


Mike

Be careful taking to heart everything you read on these forums. Yes, some member receive units that are defective in some way but most, like me, have a unit that is virtually flawless and performs well for a modern, mid-range LED. I love mine and came from a 37" Samsung LCD...light-years ahead in performance. You got a good price too at $1300!

I have my 55" W802A connected to an external speaker cabinet (Zvox 555) via optical out and no sound comes through the TV speakers (which are pretty much crap anyways). In the audio settings on the TV you need to set it for external speakers. Your receiver should then take the digital audio signal (Toslink) and output it to your connected speakers from the receiver.
post #898 of 1174
Hey guys, after setting up a games room in our newly built house (managed to manipulate my wife into it LOL) I am looking for a new 42" screen for the ps4.

Now I've been seeing that it's one of the best if not these best for latency/input lag. How accurate is this really? I seen a few playstation 4 videos that emerged over the past 48 hours which seem to be running on this set. Is it really that good when it comes down input lag? How is the colour reproduction for games? It's purely only used for gaming as we already have a theatre room setup.

Thoughts?
post #899 of 1174
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Originally Posted by neXo View Post

Hey guys, after setting up a games room in our newly built house (managed to manipulate my wife into it LOL) I am looking for a new 42" screen for the ps4.

Now I've been seeing that it's one of the best if not these best for latency/input lag. How accurate is this really? I seen a few playstation 4 videos that emerged over the past 48 hours which seem to be running on this set. Is it really that good when it comes down input lag? How is the colour reproduction for games? It's purely only used for gaming as we already have a theatre room setup.

Thoughts?

I think the W802A only comes in 47" and 55" versions so that would be too big for you.
post #900 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cla55clown View Post

I think the W802A only comes in 47" and 55" versions so that would be too big for you.

Actually it is 42" according to my local store's website.

Our variant is a 800a whilst in the U.S it is 802a

http://www.jbhifi.com.au/tv-lcd-led-plasma/sony/42-inch-w800a-full-hd-3d-smart-led-tv-sku-407652/
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