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post #961 of 1174
Exchanged my set and this one has a big blotch on the screen that looked like a smudge. It's above the picture so it's definitely a screen problem. Like a transparent ink blotch.
post #962 of 1174
Has anyone else noticed what appears to be a pixelation/scan line effect? It's especially apparent in whites. As a result, my PS4 and XBOX One's interfaces (especially text) don't look as smooth as they did on my Samsung LCD (46A65). It doesn't seem to be a sharpness issue.

I'm guessing it's just the nature of this LED, but can anyone confirm? It's very apparent from 5-6 feet away, still visible from 8.

EDIT: A friend of mine, who is at the store right now, noticed it as well. Guess it's just the way the screen is. Not sure if I can get used to it.
Edited by Goldfingiz - 11/26/13 at 11:59am
post #963 of 1174
I am coming from a Panasonic ST60 that I returned because i couldn't deal with the constant fear of burn in. The impulse mode on the sony is identical to the motion of the ST60. The only downside is that the brightness lowers. I can't seem to find any settings that I can keep full time.

I switch a lot between watching film and playing games. Right now for film I have the Light Sensor turned on with a backlight of 5. And for games I turn the light sensor off and the backlight goes to max. The picture is close between the two. But i'm just worried that constantly switching settings like this damages something in some way. Basically going from Backlight not working hard, to backlight being maxed out. I don't want to keep the Impulse mode on for film because I don't like the backlight being on max full time, even though the brightness isn't as intense. I still feel like the tv is working harder than normal just to produce enough light for impulse mode.

Turning off the light sensor full time produces horrible black levels in a dark room, but you get the full contrast ratio of the tv, and colors pop. If you leave light sensor on, then the tv can get very dull at night, but the black levels are acceptable and there is good uniformity. However it seems like contrast ratio takes a hit and colors look dull. I feel the same using impulse mode.

Seems like you just can't win. I can just not use the impulse mode at all but then there really is no upgrade between this tv and the 6 year old sony that I used to have, so plasma like motion using impulse is the way i'm justifying the purchase right now.
post #964 of 1174
Isn't impulse just meant to be another option for gaming anyway? I use cinema 1 that I've calibrated for bluray playback and it looks amazing. Maybe I was lucky and got a good panel. Blacks are black and colours are vibrant
post #965 of 1174
my eyes are very sensitive to motion blur so motionflow standard looks really good for me in games. of course this isn't available in game mode so there is a slight increase in input lag. smooth is slightly better but it creates pixelation around moving characters in certain games. impulse is unusable for me because of the flicker.

i don't recommend light sensor on because it dulls everything. try out scene select sync on in cinema mode for a similar effect. i'm satisfied with both of those off and settings of backlight 1, picture 81. i assume you have ACE set to at least low because i find blacks just fine with that on. ACE medium will give dark scenes more pop.
post #966 of 1174
it's unfortunate that picture enhancement settings need to be turned on to achieve black levels that other sets have natively. But i guess I will have to live with it, if I don't want to worry about the burn in with plasma. I don't like Samsungs either.

I like having the low input lag of game mode because it gives me an advantage on multiplayer first person shooter games. I guess I might just have to deal with motion blur.

The store I bought from has banned me from returning anymore tv's. I returned 2 times trying to find the perfect set, but it seems every tv has its problems.
post #967 of 1174

Just picked up this TV and it seems great except for the judder.  It seems to be apparent in almost anything I watch.  The Motionflow Smooth and other settings seem to create some odd images, so I avoid using that.  But the judder is quite unnerving, considering that my old 32" samsung never had this issue.  Does anyone have any advice on how to mitigate this issue?

post #968 of 1174
It's there any firmware/software update available for this TV?
post #969 of 1174

Hello,

 

I was wondering if there was a way to have two different picture setting for one input. The reason being is, I use my PS3 to game in GAME mode, but it's also my blu-ray player...

post #970 of 1174

Hiya again guys! I got my TV yesterday!! The TV looks amazing, we tested the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D and were totally blown away!  It looks gorgeous! Then, later we saw a blu-ray, the picture looked good, but I had this feeling inside me that it could look better! Anyways, here's my current settings

I would appreciate any advice on what I should enable, disable, or change the colour, or any settings I missed out on.

 

This is my first LED as well, I also noticed more detail in people's faces, for example we saw FEAR and I can see Mark Wahlberg's acne, lol.. Is it normal to have that kinda detailed look? also some parts seemed a lil grainy, but maybe that wasn't the best blu-ray to best PQ-wise anyway.

 

 

 

picture mode ~ vivid
backlight ~ Max
Picture ~ Max
Brightness ~ 55
Color ~ 63
Hue ~ 0
colour Temp ~ Neutral
~Sharpness ~ 75
Noise Reduction ~ Auto
Reality Creation ~ Auto
Video Area Detection ~ Off
Resolution (it's greyed out at 75)
Noise Filtering (Its greyed out at Min)
Smoother Graduation ~ Off
Motion Flow ~ Smooth
CineMotion ~ Auto

post #971 of 1174

also, my scene select is on Auto

post #972 of 1174
Has anyone had their 55W802A calibrated, either by yourself (with a light meter) or professionally? If so, can you share your settings?
post #973 of 1174
Anyone compare this model with 60r550a?how is the picture quality?
post #974 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by KristinaAlexis6 View Post

Hiya again guys! I got my TV yesterday!! The TV looks amazing, we tested the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D and were totally blown away!  It looks gorgeous! Then, later we saw a blu-ray, the picture looked good, but I had this feeling inside me that it could look better! Anyways, here's my current settings
I would appreciate any advice on what I should enable, disable, or change the colour, or any settings I missed out on.

This is my first LED as well, I also noticed more detail in people's faces, for example we saw FEAR and I can see Mark Wahlberg's acne, lol.. Is it normal to have that kinda detailed look? also some parts seemed a lil grainy, but maybe that wasn't the best blu-ray to best PQ-wise anyway.



picture mode ~ vivid

backlight ~ Max

Picture ~ Max

Brightness ~ 55

Color ~ 63

Hue ~ 0

colour Temp ~ Neutral

~Sharpness ~ 75

Noise Reduction ~ Auto

Reality Creation ~ Auto

Video Area Detection ~ Off

Resolution (it's greyed out at 75)

Noise Filtering (Its greyed out at Min)

Smoother Graduation ~ Off

Motion Flow ~ Smooth

CineMotion ~ Auto

Those settings are identical to mine, I have Smooth Gradation on low and Colour temp on Cool (still messing around with settings) I find the PQ is better with the vivid setting, it just means you can't use the black level enhancer etc.

@eifer Yeah the only real issue with the TV is the judder, on smooth its more apparent on some scenes/movies, I was hoping a firmware update would sort it but I doubt it will.
Edited by Zaim - 12/6/13 at 9:01am
post #975 of 1174

hi guys, is the judder apparent in films / movies / games?

is it enough of an issue you'd recommend against purchasing it? 

and do you have the 47 or 55 inch?

 

thanks


Edited by c0linp - 12/6/13 at 3:02pm
post #976 of 1174

yep, the Vivid looks a LOT better :) I did try the custom settings,but Vivid looks better for me. Im gonna enable what ya enabled and lets see what happens.

 

also, how do i get into the eco settings?

post #977 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by KristinaAlexis6 View Post

I also noticed more detail in people's faces, for example we saw FEAR and I can see Mark Wahlberg's acne, lol.. Is it normal to have that kinda detailed look? also some parts seemed a lil grainy,

picture mode ~ vivid

Color ~ 63

~Sharpness ~ 75
Try Standard mode.

The problem with Vivid is it cranks almost all the settings, namely Picture, Color and Sharpness. The colors will have more "pop" but they are totally unrealistic. It will look brighter but might actually have less dynamic range if the highlights are being clipped (like an amp cranked to "11") also known as white crush.

Excess Sharpness causes false contours (ringing) and exaggerated grain. The correct setting is the one that doesn't add any false picture information or soften any real picture detail. This can be hard to find without a sharpness test pattern if you don't know what to look for. A more appropriate setting would probably be closer to 0 and I wouldn't ever go higher than 50. Digital panels are plenty sharp already and don't need any "help".
post #978 of 1174
So I just got my replacement 47" and the same separation at the bezel, in the same location. I also have MORE clouding and backlight bleed on this set than the original. I called Sony and they want me to do another exchange. I told them I would prefer a refund since every time a set is sent out I need to have someone here to receive it and also I need to have someone here to return them. They want me to send both back and then wait for a refund check. Seems a little unfair to me that they have my credit card info already anyway and cannot issue the refund until both of them are actually back at Sony. The supervisor of the woman I spoke with conveniently had a meeting as soon as I asked to speak with her. Returning to the store is not an option because the first set was part of a warranty swap out for my old 46ex720. I would really prefer the refund so that I can actually buy a different set from an actual retailer with a halfway decent return policy and that delivers on a Saturday. Anyone have any advice on how to move forward with this?

Edit: playing with the contrast enhancer seems to remove a lot of the clouding and flashlighting. I am still a bit nervous about the gap at the bottom of the bezel though. I feel like if they would be willing to comp the extended warranty or something for me, I could stick with this since that way I would be protected against anything that may arise from that gap
Edited by brahby - 12/9/13 at 10:17am
post #979 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by KristinaAlexis6 View Post

hiyas ya'll! I'm new here. I've decided to get the W802A. can someone please link me to a page with good calibration settings, or anyone here with similar, good settings? spanx wink.gif




Welcome to the forum Kristina, here is a link to get you started, try them and see if you like them, enjoy your set, you made a good choice. wink.gif

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-593017/sony-kdl-55w802a-picture-settings/

I could not find this:

LED Dynamic Control Low

anywhere under any sub menus or anything
post #980 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by brahby View Post

I could not find this:

LED Dynamic Control Low

anywhere under any sub menus or anything

I can't find that setting either. Can anyone help?
post #981 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by askimo View Post

It's there any firmware/software update available for this TV?

Yes, the TV is updatable.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nilok View Post

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a way to have two different picture setting for one input. The reason being is, I use my PS3 to game in GAME mode, but it's also my blu-ray player...

Yes, you can select from different scenes. I use Game for games and Cinema for films. Each scene has its own calibration settings.
post #982 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by KristinaAlexis6 View Post

Hiya again guys! I got my TV yesterday!! The TV looks amazing, we tested the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D and were totally blown away!  It looks gorgeous! Then, later we saw a blu-ray, the picture looked good, but I had this feeling inside me that it could look better! Anyways, here's my current settings
I would appreciate any advice on what I should enable, disable, or change the colour, or any settings I missed out on.

This is my first LED as well, I also noticed more detail in people's faces, for example we saw FEAR and I can see Mark Wahlberg's acne, lol.. Is it normal to have that kinda detailed look? also some parts seemed a lil grainy, but maybe that wasn't the best blu-ray to best PQ-wise anyway.



picture mode ~ vivid

backlight ~ Max

Picture ~ Max

Brightness ~ 55

Color ~ 63

Hue ~ 0

colour Temp ~ Neutral

~Sharpness ~ 75

Noise Reduction ~ Auto

Reality Creation ~ Auto

Video Area Detection ~ Off

Resolution (it's greyed out at 75)

Noise Filtering (Its greyed out at Min)

Smoother Graduation ~ Off

Motion Flow ~ Smooth

CineMotion ~ Auto

Yikes, I bet you can see that TV from Space with those torch settings.
post #983 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldfingiz View Post



Yes, the TV is updatable.

Yes, you can select from different scenes. I use Game for games and Cinema for films. Each scene has its own calibration settings.

 



Thank you!
post #984 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldfingiz View Post


Yikes, I bet you can see that TV from Space with those torch settings.


lmao, looks fine to me :) I'm use to the setting on Vivid, of ALL the TV's I've owned they've always been set on Vivid

post #985 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantaloup View Post

I can't find that setting either. Can anyone help?

I talked to a Sony support rep, and he said the 55W802A doesn't have this setting. Which is strange, since people in this thread and the C|Net review both mention it.
post #986 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantaloup View Post


I talked to a Sony support rep, and he said the 55W802A doesn't have this setting. Which is strange, since people in this thread and the C|Net review both mention it.


very weird! I can't find it, either!

post #987 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantaloup View Post

I talked to a Sony support rep, and he said the 55W802A doesn't have this setting. Which is strange, since people in this thread and the C|Net review both mention it.

He's right, only the W9 will have that setting since it has "Local Dimming", the W8 has Frame dimming.
post #988 of 1174

Hey all,

I  picked up the 55" W802 last week and a new Pioneer S61 AVR, tonight, was wondering does the W802 support ARC, (Audio Return Channel) I would think it must, but dont know really, and if it does is it a setting I have to turn on.

thanks for any help

post #989 of 1174

Hi all, I just got this 55'' and coming from a Vizio 50'' m-series, let me say there is NO comparison.

 

I love this tv and I was lucky enough to get it for $950 new in the box!

 

On black friday I stood in line for 8 hrs at best buy to get the Vizio for $599, a great price right?!? Well I thought so until I got it home and plugged it in.

 

I went through 4 of these vizios, each having physical damage  on the bezel as well as a number of other issues with almost every aspect of this tv.

 

The remote was unresponsive most of the time and the set only has 1 button on it so w/o the remote there is not much you can do with your tv.

 

Without going full blown rant style, I will say in short, FORGET about Vizio as they are pure crap and you definitely get what you pay for! 

post #990 of 1174
Quote:
Originally Posted by HfxHiFi View Post

Hey all,
I  picked up the 55" W802 last week and a new Pioneer S61 AVR, tonight, was wondering does the W802 support ARC, (Audio Return Channel) I would think it must, but dont know really, and if it does is it a setting I have to turn on.
thanks for any help

I haven't used it myself but ARC is supposed to be supported on HDMI input 1. You will need to connect your device to that port.
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