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post #331 of 1202
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Originally Posted by newaver View Post

Had flashlighting and clouding, like yours. It was only noticable to us at night in a dark room, with dark movie scenes or with regular TV shows on the 16:9 black bars. Was debating on whether to exchange it. With my current settings, there is only a small flashlighting in the bottom right corner in a dark room, not even really noticable.

I tried the rubbing corners and loosening screws, did not notice any difference. Turning off local dimming it seems, really helped. Also we turned the TV screen side up, did not notice any difference right away, but a day or two later it was better - not sure if that was only from turning off the local dimming (which I tried a day later) or if turning the TV helped too.

Another thing I noticed was when putting on the stand, I had the panel face down on a flat surface, but I heard a "creak". Maybe that throws it out of line and why the uniformity is out of whack ? It says to put the stand on that way but it might be worth it to put the stand on with the TV standing up, for future reference.


All-in-all I am extremely happy with this set. High Definition sources really look pristine.

My current settings, if they might help someone..........

Expert 1
Backlight: 30
Contrast: 70
Bright: 35
HSharpness: 30
VSharpness: 30
Color: 60
Tint: G16


Noise Reduction: High
MPEG Noise: Off
Black Level: Low
Real Cinema: Off
Motion Eye: Off
Local Dimming: Off
TruMotion: Off


Dynamic Contrast: High
Super Resolution: Off
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: On
Color Filter: Off
Expert Pattern: Off
Gamma: 2.2

I have my picture set to standard & it looks a little washed out. The colors looked subdued & the sharpness isn't really there. Will changing it to expert mode bring more life to the pic?
post #332 of 1202
Hello Splattered and others. What is the built-in memory(RAM) of your LG xxLA7400 smart TV? I really appreciate if anyone can help to provide me that information.
post #333 of 1202
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Originally Posted by newaver View Post

Had flashlighting and clouding, like yours. It was only noticable to us at night in a dark room, with dark movie scenes or with regular TV shows on the 16:9 black bars. Was debating on whether to exchange it. With my current settings, there is only a small flashlighting in the bottom right corner in a dark room, not even really noticable.

I tried the rubbing corners and loosening screws, did not notice any difference. Turning off local dimming it seems, really helped. Also we turned the TV screen side up, did not notice any difference right away, but a day or two later it was better - not sure if that was only from turning off the local dimming (which I tried a day later) or if turning the TV helped too.

Another thing I noticed was when putting on the stand, I had the panel face down on a flat surface, but I heard a "creak". Maybe that throws it out of line and why the uniformity is out of whack ? It says to put the stand on that way but it might be worth it to put the stand on with the TV standing up, for future reference.


All-in-all I am extremely happy with this set. High Definition sources really look pristine.

My current settings, if they might help someone..........

Expert 1
Backlight: 30
Contrast: 70
Bright: 35
HSharpness: 30
VSharpness: 30
Color: 60
Tint: G16


Noise Reduction: High
MPEG Noise: Off
Black Level: Low
Real Cinema: Off
Motion Eye: Off
Local Dimming: Off
TruMotion: Off


Dynamic Contrast: High
Super Resolution: Off
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: On
Color Filter: Off
Expert Pattern: Off
Gamma: 2.2


have you noticed under expert1 cal mode only: the controls for the v & h sharpnesses do nothing to increase/decrease the sharpness on the picture. is this a glitch on the firmware itself?
post #334 of 1202
The tv i got from microcenter is fine with little bleeding which i can get accustomed to but one glaring issue is with the yellowish color picture. I bought 55F6350A from Costco as i had better experience with Samsung earlier

- First issue is with this yellowish tint ..i tried changing every setting but still the picture seems dull when compared to samsung. Even when the picture looks with appropriate brightness , when i click on youtube app the screen shows the yellowish tint....all other input modes or apps work the same way

- Screen is way glossy but i think that might have to do with the panel being 3D capable. Samsung has less reflections.

Apart from the light yellowish tint ..the colors are absolutely fantastic but when i have this next to Samsung, its hard for me to justify to keep this TV. i really like the design and my tv is wired, so no issues with streaming.

Can any one please help me to change settings to make it more brighter and how to remove the yellowish tint ?

I do understand that both TV's are in different league and i cant really compare but picture quality comes first ...the only reason for me to compare them - is because of their price range
post #335 of 1202
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Originally Posted by dbe425 View Post

I'm not a home right now so I can't tell you the steps but when setting up the TV it ask you to enter your info regarding your cable provider, the brand of the cable box, etc. Once all that is done it allows you to test it out to make sure the magic remote can control it. I can say the channel number or HGTV for example and it goes there.

It only works for me if I use the built-in tuner on the TV and run AutoTuning . But if I connect via FIOS Cisco cable box, it does not work.
post #336 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Primestar31 View Post

5.1 audio output is only available on OTA tv channels.

Short version:
55LA7400 can pass DD and DTS audio from externally connected HDMI sources over ARC to your receiver. Rock.

Long version:
So as an update, I ran across some posts that said DD and DTS 5.1 pass-through was available on other LG Smart TVs - it just wasn't listed in the EDID info as a capability. So if you forced 5.1 output to the TV from the externally connected HDMI device, it would pass that signal through.

I gave it a shot on my 55LA7400 and it _WORKS_! I am connected to my receiver via HDMI cable and using ARC for audio, and sure enough when I forced my PS3 to send DD or DTS through, the TV passed it to my receiver over the ARC channel... the display on the receiver switched to dolby digital or DTS as appropriate and played back perfectly!

So, the only small hassle is that you have to set your external devices to explicitly send the 5.1 signal. Which is a very minor annoyance. The only real sticking point I can see is if you have an external device that you cannot manually force the audio output on. In that case, I guess you'll be waiting for someone to figure out the service menu situation for 2013 TVs.

SUPER, SUPER stoked about this. Hope this info helps others in this thread.

One thing I haven't done is figure out what modes can be passed through. My receiver supports a lot of them, and I don't have a ton of media with lots of different formats to use as sources for all the various modes of DD and DTS. All I can say I've verified is DD 5.1 and DTS 5.1 as passed from my PS3 to TV to Receiver via ARC. I did, however, talk to LG support, who was doing some sort of 7.2 mode from OTA channels. So perhaps the TV can handle a lot of formats and modes? I dunno.

(edited for clarity and to add info about modes)
Edited by tacomonster - 7/10/13 at 3:41pm
post #337 of 1202
I have a question about the RF input - and how I can get my New Harmony Ultimate to control turning on the TV.

TV connected to AVR through HDMI.
Ultimate Hub setup with IR emitters with Cable Box and Receiver.

When I press watch TV, receiver and cable box power up, but the TV does not, and I have to manually turn the tv on with the tv remote..... sooooooooooooooooooo annoying.

Is there a way to change the remote input to rf on the tv and have the ultimate send that signal?


Thanks.
post #338 of 1202
Does anybody have any suggestions for picture settings? I'm on expert mode & it looks a little dark to me. Backlight is nearly @ max. Color looks a little flat.
post #339 of 1202
Do you think we will EVER get a software update that provides the Amazon streaming app? I check every day for updates. And yes, I have contacted LG with no answers.
post #340 of 1202
Is anyone familiar with the 60-inch model? Amazon and Crutchfield both say the 60-inch model is direct-lit, while the 47 and 55-inch models are edge lit. Amazon and Crutchfield also show photos of the 60-inch model with a dark grey bezel, rather than the silver of the 47 and 55-inch models. The thickness of the bezel on the sides and top also appears to be different.

I don't know of any brick-and-mortar store that has the 60-inch model in stock—Best Buy certainly doesn't have it—so I can't inspect it in person. If the 60-inch model is direct-lit, it seems to me that it would be a fundamentally different TV than the smaller LG LA7400's.
post #341 of 1202
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Originally Posted by James Parsons View Post

Is anyone familiar with the 60-inch model? Amazon and Crutchfield both say the 60-inch model is direct-lit, while the 47 and 55-inch models are edge lit. Amazon and Crutchfield also show photos of the 60-inch model with a dark grey bezel, rather than the silver of the 47 and 55-inch models. The thickness of the bezel on the sides and top also appears to be different.

I don't know of any brick-and-mortar store that has the 60-inch model in stock—Best Buy certainly doesn't have it—so I can't inspect it in person. If the 60-inch model is direct-lit, it seems to me that it would be a fundamentally different TV than the smaller LG LA7400's.

I think the direct lit model is the LM9600. 2012 model. Also I saw the 60 LA7400 last week @ Best Buy.
post #342 of 1202
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Originally Posted by klopez3709 View Post

I think the direct lit model is the LM9600. 2012 model. Also I saw the 60 LA7400 last week @ Best Buy.

Amazon.com, in a table comparing different LG TV models, under the column "LA7400", clearly states "Edge LED+ (60" Direct LED w/ Dimming)." Amazon.com's photos show a TV with a dark grey bezel.

Crutchfield.com, under the 60LA7400's "Details" tab, says the backlighting type is "LED (Direct-lit w/ local dim)." Crutchfield's photos show a TV with a dark grey bezel.

The 60" model is not listed on the BestBuy website.

LG's website, meanwhile, says the 60LA7400 has a "BLU Type" of "LED Plus". LG's website shows photos of a dark grey TV, but the PDF for the exact same model shows a photo of a silver-colored TV.

This is the photo of the 60LA7400 taken directly from the LG website. Notice it looks quite different than the 55" and 47" models. The color is different and the thickness of the bezel is different.

For comparison, here is a photo of the smaller 55" model from the LG website. Notice the silver color of the TV, plus the nearly invisible bezel along the sides and top of the TV.

Edited by James Parsons - 7/13/13 at 6:00pm
post #343 of 1202
Yes the 60 does have a different bezel. Wasn't aware it was direct lit though. I'm almost positive I did see it at my area's local Best Buy though. Maybe old age is finally creeping up on me. smile.gif
post #344 of 1202
whether is a 55" or 60", there're 5 settings (brightness, contrast, color, tint, & sharpness) to manually calibrate it.
post #345 of 1202
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Originally Posted by klopez3709 View Post

Yes the 60 does have a different bezel. Wasn't aware it was direct lit though. I'm almost positive I did see it at my area's local Best Buy though. Maybe old age is finally creeping up on me. smile.gif

The photos of it from the side make it look thin compared to other direct lit LED TV's I've seen. I much prefer the look of black/dark grey over silver.

I'm currently shopping for a 60-inch TV, but I'm torn between the LG 60LA6200, the Samsung 60F6400, and the LG 60LA7400. The Samsung has a beautiful image, but I prefer passive 3D. Comparing the two LG's, I prefer the thinness and higher refresh rate of the 60LA7400, but it's also the most expensive of the three TV's.

I haven't yet been able to see the LG 60LA7400 in person, and I question whether I can use the smaller models as a reliable proxy if they're using different screen technology. I also question whether I can trust online reviews of the smaller models when judging the 60-inch model. For example, currently Amazon has 28 customer reviews of the LA7400 series, but only 1-2 of those reviews are of the 60-inch model.
Edited by James Parsons - 7/14/13 at 2:10am
post #346 of 1202
Im looking at buying this tv after returning the samsung 60f7100 because the bezel was twice as thick as the 55f7100 that Best Buy had setup in their store. The 55LA7400 is silver and has almost no bezel correct? The pictures on the LG, Best Buy, and Crutchfield website show almost no bezel. That is a very important feature to me because this is going to be setup in the living room. Almost no critical viewing will take place here, but I want the tv to blend into the wall.

I'd appreciate any help you can provide because after reading the 12 pages of thread I am still not certain of the color (prefer silver and all pics show silver) and the bezel measurements (looks less than.3" on the website pics).
post #347 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Andrew P View Post

Im looking at buying this tv after returning the samsung 60f7100 because the bezel was twice as thick as the 55f7100 that Best Buy had setup in their store. The 55LA7400 is silver and has almost no bezel correct? The pictures on the LG, Best Buy, and Crutchfield website show almost no bezel. That is a very important feature to me because this is going to be setup in the living room. Almost no critical viewing will take place here, but I want the tv to blend into the wall.

I'd appreciate any help you can provide because after reading the 12 pages of thread I am still not certain of the color (prefer silver and all pics show silver) and the bezel measurements (looks less than.3" on the website pics).

It appears that both the Samsung 60F7100 and the LG 60LA7400 have thicker bezels than their 55-inch equivalents. I know that to be true for the Samsungs, and the photos I posted above seem to suggest that's true for the LG's as well.

From what I saw in the store, it appeared that the 55-inch LG 55LA7400 had virtually no visible bezel along the sides and top. Along the bottom, the bezel is thicker and silver sort of like the Samsung TV you just returned.

The 55-inch Samsung 55F7100 has a very thin bezel along all four sides of the screen. Although it is very thin, it still appears thicker than the LG 55LA7400. Unlike the LG, the Samsung's bezel is the same thickness on all four sides of the screen.

Personally, I prefer the look of the Samsung 55F7100's bezel over that of the LG 55LA7400. If the look of the bezel is important to you (as it is to me), I strongly recommend that you don't buy the LG 55LA7400 until you've seen it in person.

My local Best Buy has the LG 55LA7400 on display, so probably one of the Best Buy's near you has it on display as well. The 47-inch LG 47LA7400 looks exactly like the 55-inch model except smaller.
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Edited by calearne - 7/17/13 at 11:20am
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Edited by calearne - 7/15/13 at 9:46am
post #350 of 1202
So I managed to access the service menu on this TV and enable DD 5.1 passthrough from externally connected HDMI sources by changing the EDID info. Now everything is in happy 5.1, with nothing but HDMI connecting my various home theater system components. The LG magic remote works pretty well with this setup.
post #351 of 1202
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Originally Posted by tacomonster View Post

So I managed to access the service menu on this TV and enable DD 5.1 passthrough from externally connected HDMI sources by changing the EDID info. Now everything is in happy 5.1, with nothing but HDMI connecting my various home theater system components. The LG magic remote works pretty well with this setup.
How did you access the service menu?
post #352 of 1202
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Originally Posted by maddog510 View Post

How did you access the service menu?

I take no responsibility if your brick your TV. This information is given with no guarantee it will work for you or won't turn your TV into a bookend. That said, this is what I did:

Step 1) Get an all-for-one or UEI capable remote. I have a Comcast xfinity remote that came with my cable box and is compliant with these standards. However, this should work with a lot of different remote types.. I am not sure which, but you can read the page if you are interested.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual_Programming_-_9xx_Commands#Introduction

Step 2) Anyway, once you have a remote that can do these things, what you want to do is set your programmable remote to the appropriate LG TV code.. so, look at your remote instructions and test codes until you find the one that can do power on/power off, arrow keys, etc. for your TV. For my comcast remote, it was the first code I tried.

Step 3) Now use the '994' function to program a key (just pick one that you want to use.) The relevant excerpt from the above link is below:

Program Effective Function Code (EFC) for a single device

TAP a DEVICE button (eg, TV)
PRESS and HOLD the SETUP button until the red LED flashes twice, then RELEASE.
TAP 9 - 9 - 4.
TAP the SETUP button
TYPE the 3 or 5 digit EFC code (aka "advanced code)
TAP the regular button (eg, VOL+) - two Blinks

Now, what code to use? EFC for EZ_Adjust menu is 00018. (reference: http://openlgtv.org.ru/wiki/index.php/Access_hidden_service_menus_/_modes#Introduction)

Execute those steps. Now you should have a remote that will tell the TV to go to the appropriate service menu.

Step 4) Point your remote at the TV and press the button you programmed to access the service menu. You should get a password prompt. The password is '0413'.

Step 5) Go under option #7 and you should see the EDID field. Change it from PCM to AC3 for DD or DTS for... well, DTS smile.gif I have only tested AC3 for DD.

Step 6) Exit the menu.

It seems that the choice is saved automatically and is persistent across power on/off cycles. If you have a device, rerun whatever audio detection routines are available ( on my DVR I had to power off everything and reset the HDMI cable.. on PS3 I just reran sound setup). PS3 is a nice device to test with because if you do it right DD 5.1 will come up in the list of capabilities after you run auto detection.

Anyway, YMMV, but I'm super happy now with this TV.
Edited by tacomonster - 7/15/13 at 7:01pm
post #353 of 1202
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Originally Posted by tacomonster View Post

I take no responsibility if your brick your TV. This information is given with no guarantee it will work for you or won't turn your TV into a bookend. That said, this is what I did:

Step 1) Get an all-for-one or UEI capable remote. I have a Comcast xfinity remote that came with my cable box and is compliant with these standards. However, this should work with a lot of different remote types.. I am not sure which, but you can read the page if you are interested.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/wiki/index.php?title=Manual_Programming_-_9xx_Commands#Introduction

Step 2) Anyway, once you have a remote that can do these things, what you want to do is set your programmable remote to the appropriate LG TV code.. so, look at your remote instructions and test codes until you find the one that can do power on/power off, arrow keys, etc. for your TV. For my comcast remote, it was the first code I tried.

Step 3) Now use the '994' function to program a key (just pick one that you want to use.) The relevant excerpt from the above link is below:

Program Effective Function Code (EFC) for a single device

TAP a DEVICE button (eg, TV)
PRESS and HOLD the SETUP button until the red LED flashes twice, then RELEASE.
TAP 9 - 9 - 4.
TAP the SETUP button
TYPE the 3 or 5 digit EFC code (aka "advanced code)
TAP the regular button (eg, VOL+) - two Blinks

Now, what code to use? EFC for EZ_Adjust menu is 00018. (reference: http://openlgtv.org.ru/wiki/index.php/Access_hidden_service_menus_/_modes#Introduction)

Execute those steps. Now you should have a remote that will tell the TV to go to the appropriate service menu.

Step 4) Point your remote at the TV and press the button you programmed to access the service menu. You should get a password prompt. The password is '0413'.

Step 5) Go under option #7 and you should see the EDID field. Change it from PCM to AC3 for DD or DTS for... well, DTS smile.gif I have only tested AC3 for DD.

Step 6) Exit the menu.

It seems that the choice is saved automatically and is persistent across power on/off cycles. If you have a device, rerun whatever audio detection routines are available ( on my DVR I had to power off everything and reset the HDMI cable.. on PS3 I just reran sound setup). PS3 is a nice device to test with because if you do it right DD 5.1 will come up in the list of capabilities after you run auto detection.

Anyway, YMMV, but I'm super happy now with this TV.
did you unlock THX modes?
post #354 of 1202
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Originally Posted by Leonheart View Post

did you unlock THX modes?

Not sure how to do that. I recall there only being PCM, AC3, and DTS as the options.

However, when I was experimenting I noticed there were a variety of modes I could send that the TV would pass through, even without doing anything in the service menu. I took that to mean that the TV was capable of doing a lot more than what was being passed through EDID... so if you have some stuff that will send THX content, give it a shot and see if it comes through ok.
post #355 of 1202
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Originally Posted by maddog510 View Post

Does anybody have any suggestions for picture settings? I'm on expert mode & it looks a little dark to me. Backlight is nearly @ max. Color looks a little flat.

it seems cinema mode gives the best picture quality over any other default settings; & any attempts to calibrate (by users) doesn't necessary mean the picture quality will be better than the cinema mode.
post #356 of 1202
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Originally Posted by James Parsons View Post

It appears that both the Samsung 60F7100 and the LG 60LA7400 have thicker bezels than their 55-inch equivalents. I know that to be true for the Samsungs, and the photos I posted above seem to suggest that's true for the LG's as well.

if i have to pick another tv, i'd still pick the 55la7400 almost frameless design. the dark coated bezel look-alike/borders behind the screen blends in naturally with the tv housing. the only time you see the dark borders (top & the sides) is when the tv is on. just my personal preference, i don't like tv with bezel with equal thickness/thinness on 4 sides; it's like looking at a bathroom mirror, 55es8000 is an example.
post #357 of 1202
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Originally Posted by klopez3709 View Post

Do you think we will EVER get a software update that provides the Amazon streaming app? I check every day for updates. And yes, I have contacted LG with no answers.

Some Google searches suggest that it's in their 'to do' list. And I'll be super upset if they don't get around to it soon. mad.gif
post #358 of 1202
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Originally Posted by J.J.R.#4 View Post

Some Google searches suggest that it's in their 'to do' list. And I'll be super upset if they don't get around to it soon. mad.gif

Somebody has to bear the cost and do the work of building the Smart TV apps. I'm assuming that falls on Amazon, rather than LG. Perhaps it's the other way around, though. Perhaps the content company makes their software available to manufacturers, who then adapt it to their own API. Either way, the TV market leader (Samsung) will likely get most apps before other manufacturers.

There is an easy solution to the lack of Amazon Instant Video on LG smart TV's: buy a Roku. Both Amazon Instant Video and Amazon Cloud Player are on Roku. According to a recent All Thing D article: "[Roku CEO Anthony] Wood figures that most TV manufacturers, with the exception of Samsung, aren’t going to have the desire or ability to create decent software for their boxes, and he’d like Roku to assume that role."

Here's a question I have for people who already have an LG smart TV: Can you easily bypass the LG smart TV interface? For example, if I want to use my Roku / Apple TV / Xbox One / Smart Blu-ray player / AV receiver interface as my default "smart" interface, can I easily do that instead? Is the LG smart TV interface something that always appears when you turn on your TV, or perhaps is it just one of many channels/inputs on the TV?
Edited by James Parsons - 7/17/13 at 3:39am
post #359 of 1202
Hey 7400 owners......Is the serial number on your cardboard LG box slightly different than the serial number that's shown on the info menu screen?
post #360 of 1202
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Originally Posted by James Parsons View Post

Here's a question I have for people who already have an LG smart TV: Can you easily bypass the LG smart TV interface? For example, if I want to use my Roku / Apple TV / Xbox One / Smart Blu-ray player / AV receiver interface as my default "smart" interface, can I easily do that instead? Is the LG smart TV interface something that always appears when you turn on your TV, or perhaps is it just one of many channels/inputs on the TV?

I would think so. When I turn my TV on it goes to the last input I had selected, not the smart interface. So, if you just wanted to use your TV as a monitor I don't see why you'd have to interact with the smart tv UI very much at all.
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