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post #661 of 1204
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Originally Posted by nautilus123 View Post

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Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post

a) Just select ISF Expert 1 and make all changes to with that as your custom setup. Then you can switch back and forth between the ISF settings and the factory setting for comparison until you get what you like.

b) Do not "apply to all inputs" until you are sure you like the settings and you have not made any mistakes.. You can always come back later and "apply to all inputs" once you are satisfied. Just remember that each input has its own input specific settings. So until you do "apply to all inputs" you are running the other inputs with its own "factory" settings. For instance if you switch from the STB on HDMI1 to the DVD on HDMI2. Personally I did "apply to all inputs" once I had all the 20pt white balance setting correct. Note that only "applied" the White Point settings to the ISF1 calibration setup option of the other inputs so you can still switch back to factory default "Cinema", "Standard" etc.

3) Select the 20pt White Balance option (with Luminescence at 130) and enter each setting for each IRE point. Enter one IRE point (starts at 100) - change the settings then repeat. Takes a few minutes.

Note that "Reset" does not reset the 20pt White Balance settings. You can switch between 20pt and 2pt at any time.



Did you mean you have to enter all 20 sets of IRE points (IRE @100: -32, 0, 2) starting from 100, 95, ...to 5? or you could just pick a set of IRE point between 100 & 5 only because the la7400 only accepts one set of number only.

IRE Red Green Blue
100 (130 Luminance) -32 0 2
95 -28 -13 -7
90 -16 0 8
85 -9 -6 -9
80 0 -8 -7
75 -1 -16 -17
70 -1 -14 -12
65 -6 -24 -20
60 -10 -21 -13
55 -16 -24 -18
50 -16 -21 -15
45 -18 -21 -18
40 -15 -20 -14
35 -17 -18 -17
30 -15 -17 -17
25 -16 -17 -19
20 -18 -19 -24
15 -20 -18 -26
10 -18 -18 -50
5 10 8 50

I have the 55LA6900 but as I understand it the LA7400 is the same except for the screen.

You do have to enter the Red/Green/Blue settings for each of the 20 IRE settings, 100 to 5. The process is a little hard to explain but:

A) For the desired INPUT - Change PICTURE MODE to EXPERT1 (or EXPERT2)
B) Select EXPERT CONTROL
C) Select WHITE BALANCE
D) Change METHOD to "20 Point IRE"

Now (leaving Luminance at 130)

1) Change the IRE point to one of the settings (100, 95, 90, 85, 80, etc)
2) Change the Red/Green/Blue settings to those for the IRE point selected in Step 1

Repeat Steps 1-2 for each of the 20 IRE Points.

When finished you then have the options to "Apply to all inputs". You can come back and do this later if you wish.

Clear as mud right?

You can now switch between the various Picture Modes, Vivid, Cinema, ISF1, ISF2 for comparison.
post #662 of 1204
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Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post

I have the 55LA6900 but as I understand it the LA7400 is the same except for the screen.

You do have to enter the Red/Green/Blue settings for each of the 20 IRE settings, 100 to 5. The process is a little hard to explain but:

A) For the desired INPUT - Change PICTURE MODE to EXPERT1 (or EXPERT2)
B) Select EXPERT CONTROL
C) Select WHITE BALANCE
D) Change METHOD to "20 Point IRE"

Now (leaving Luminance at 130)

1) Change the IRE point to one of the settings (100, 95, 90, 85, 80, etc)
2) Change the Red/Green/Blue settings to those for the IRE point selected in Step 1

Repeat Steps 1-2 for each of the 20 IRE Points.

When finished you then have the options to "Apply to all inputs". You can come back and do this later if you wish.

Clear as mud right?

You can now switch between the various Picture Modes, Vivid, Cinema, ISF1, ISF2 for comparison.

Thanks for walking me through.
post #663 of 1204
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Originally Posted by dark41 View Post


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Mine came with what I'd consider a "flat" picture too. Matching up settings with recommended by experts didn't improve it much, if any. Setting each control manually, I was able to get a very nice picture.

If you can't get a nice picture with manual adjustments, I'd sure consider taking it back.

I also purchased a Disney WOW Blu-ray disc for calibration, but haven't gotten around to trying it yet.

Plasma was never an option for me because of the heat they produce and power consumption. Electricity bills in Australia are out of control and getting worse.
To each their own.

So I ended up returning the LG to bestbuy after manually adjusting the picture for hours and not being happy. I bought the Panasonic VT60.... With my discount I only paid $1600 and there is no comparison to the lg.... This plasma is mind blowing, weighs a lot more but looks nicer and the PQ is just incomparable to the la7400.

I don't think LCD is for me, the blacks are more like grey and the motion smoothing is just too weird. Also with the lg there was so much jitter it was making my brain twitch.

When I returned the tv, the guys at bestbuy openly told me that ithe LG was a horrible choice, not to say they know it all but they seem knowledgeable.

Panny won't be making plasmas next year so it's nice to have the last one made, my next stop will be oled when the price comes down!
post #664 of 1204
So I seem to have set my TV password and forgotten what it was. How do I reset it??
post #665 of 1204
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Originally Posted by Ginormous View Post
 

Reji,

Yes, I just checked and it works on my TV. Pushing that button pops up a window on the side of the screen showing a number pad plus a few other buttons. I haven't used that at all, so you're probably not really missing much.

 

Ginormous

Hi Ginormous,

Can you just confirm if it works, when HDMI input is selected ? As per LG local customer support,it will work only when RF input is selected. Unfortunately I don't have any RF Antenna to connect and test. Appreciate your help.

 

Reji

post #666 of 1204
Here is a screenshot after I push that button with my xbox 360 connected via hdmi.


You can see the window that pops up.

G
post #667 of 1204
Here is a screenshot with the rf antenna input selected.
post #668 of 1204
Can someone post a pic of the service menu #3? I am especially interested in what it looks like for someone NOT in the USA where the dvr feature is on. I want to see if the code at the top can be changed in order to turn on the dvr feature, since I'm locked out of changing any of the settings in that menu. Thanks!

G
post #669 of 1204
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Originally Posted by ldsfunaz View Post

I just chatted with LG live help to ask them about the 60 back-light tech and here is what they said.

Louis: is a LED plus: LG LED Plus backlighting delivers superior brightness, clarity and color detail from the edges of the screen, resulting in an amazingly thin, energy efficient LED TV. As an added benefit, it also features local dimming, which provides a higher contrast ratio and deeper blacks.
Louis: 60LA7400 is a LED plus is not a edge lit.

whatever that means...

Judging by LG's website, I think LED+ just means it has local dimming. Go to LG's 60LA7400 page and mouse over the LED+ logo.
post #670 of 1204
Just an FYI Bestbuy now has this Deleted in their system, i got the last one in my District, it is coming from Bangor Maine.
post #671 of 1204
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Originally Posted by davidtt485 View Post

Just an FYI Bestbuy now has this Deleted in their system, i got the last one in my District, it is coming from Bangor Maine.

Are you responding to a specific post? Best Buy still has the LA7400. In fact, after not having the 60LA7400 all year, my local Best Buy put in on display and had it on sale last week. Two weeks ago when I went to Best Buy hoping to look at the 60LA7400, they didn't have it on display. I had to go to h.h. gregg to look at it. Now Best Buy has it displayed in a prime location.

Here are the LA7400 models on Best Buy's website: 47LA7400, 55LA7400, 60LA7400.
post #672 of 1204
Most of them will still have the 60 as that is part of their 3d displays, but in New England it is being discontinued already in the 55 inch size anyways. I am posting this in case anyone wants one. i saw they had it online as well but when i went into the store it was a whole different story.
post #673 of 1204
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Originally Posted by davidtt485 View Post

Most of them will still have the 60 as that is part of their 3d displays, but in New England it is being discontinued already in the 55 inch size anyways. I am posting this in case anyone wants one. i saw they had it online as well but when i went into the store it was a whole different story.

I find this very interesting. I just checked the store inventory in Boston, New York, Washington, and Los Angeles. It appears that Best Buy is dropping the 47" and 55" models and picking up the 60" model. As recently as two weeks ago I couldn't find the 60" model on display at Best Buy. Now it's everywhere.

To check local inventory, go to bestbuy.com and go to the page for the item you're interested in. Then on the right hand side under "Store Pickup," click the "check stores" link. On the next page, enter your zip code or city to see the inventory of that item at all local stores.

The 47" model seems to be a bad deal at Best Buy's prices. (Crutchfield has the same prices.) For 7% more money you can get 37% more screen area by moving up to the 55" model. Moving up from the 55" to the 60" is a wash. For 20% more money you get 19% more screen area.
Edited by James Parsons - 11/17/13 at 9:28pm
post #674 of 1204
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Originally Posted by James Parsons View Post

I find this very interesting. I just checked the store inventory in Boston, New York, Washington, and Los Angeles. It appears that Best Buy is dropping the 47" and 55" models and picking up the 60" model. As recently as two weeks ago I couldn't find the 60" model on display at Best Buy. Now it's everywhere.

To check local inventory, go to bestbuy.com and go to the page for the item you're interested in. Then on the right hand side under "Store Pickup," click the "check stores" link. On the next page, enter your zip code or city to see the inventory of that item at all local stores.

The 47" model seems to be a bad deal at Best Buy's prices. (Crutchfield has the same prices.) For 7% more money you can get 37% more screen area by moving up to the 55" model. Moving up from the 55" to the 60" is a wash. For 20% more money you get 19% more screen area.

When doing this keep in mind bestbuy.com will shuffle product from store to store(in a district), so if one store has 2, it will show available to ALL stores. As a former best buy employee bestbuy.com is almost never accurate, always call and speak to a home theater associate when checking stock. But your are correct that they should all have the 60" in stock, it is a "featured" product.
post #675 of 1204
my bestbuy area still has plenty in their warehouses
post #676 of 1204
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Originally Posted by davidtt485 View Post

When doing this keep in mind bestbuy.com will shuffle product from store to store(in a district), so if one store has 2, it will show available to ALL stores. As a former best buy employee bestbuy.com is almost never accurate, always call and speak to a home theater associate when checking stock. But your are correct that they should all have the 60" in stock, it is a "featured" product.

You are right. I was at three Best Buy stores yesterday. At least two of the three had a silver (47" or 55") LA7400 on display. Yet, according to bestbuy.com none of the stores I visited yesterday have them in stock.

As a software developer, this makes no sense to me. It suggests Best Buy's and bestbuy.com's IT systems are not integrated.
post #677 of 1204
The Grayscale for Dummies mentioned about adjusting the RGBHigh & RGBLow; I wonder what to adjust on the menu in order adjust the RGBHigh & Low?
post #678 of 1204
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Originally Posted by newaver View Post

Had flashlighting and clouding, like yours. It was only noticable to us at night in a dark room, with dark movie scenes or with regular TV shows on the 16:9 black bars. Was debating on whether to exchange it. With my current settings, there is only a small flashlighting in the bottom right corner in a dark room, not even really noticable.

I tried the rubbing corners and loosening screws, did not notice any difference. Turning off local dimming it seems, really helped. Also we turned the TV screen side up, did not notice any difference right away, but a day or two later it was better - not sure if that was only from turning off the local dimming (which I tried a day later) or if turning the TV helped too.

Another thing I noticed was when putting on the stand, I had the panel face down on a flat surface, but I heard a "creak". Maybe that throws it out of line and why the uniformity is out of whack ? It says to put the stand on that way but it might be worth it to put the stand on with the TV standing up, for future reference.


All-in-all I am extremely happy with this set. High Definition sources really look pristine.

My current settings, if they might help someone..........

Expert 1
Backlight: 30
Contrast: 70
Bright: 35
HSharpness: 30
VSharpness: 30
Color: 60
Tint: G16


Noise Reduction: High
MPEG Noise: Off
Black Level: Low
Real Cinema: Off
Motion Eye: Off
Local Dimming: Off
TruMotion: Off


Dynamic Contrast: High
Super Resolution: Off
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancer: On
Color Filter: Off
Expert Pattern: Off
Gamma: 2.2


I will try these settings this evening. I just picked up the 60LA7400 last weekend, and the black bars on widescreen movies aren't very black. Also, I'm noticing quite a bit of flashlighting in the lower right corner. I tried the calibration settings posted here: http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lg-lcd-tv/lg-la7400-picture-settings.html, but it's not I'm still not thrilled with the results.

Otherwise, i love this TV so far.
post #679 of 1204
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Originally Posted by Radio81 View Post


I will try these settings this evening. I just picked up the 60LA7400 last weekend, and the black bars on widescreen movies aren't very black. Also, I'm noticing quite a bit of flashlighting in the lower right corner. I tried the calibration settings posted here: http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lg-lcd-tv/lg-la7400-picture-settings.html, but it's not I'm still not thrilled with the results.

Otherwise, i love this TV so far.

Did you try turning off the local dimming? My TV is calibrated well, but the black bars on widescreen aren't super black. If you're in a bright room, they probably appear black, but in a dark room, no. If I'm staring at the TV to specifically notice picture quality stuff, the gray bars are annoying, but if I'm just watching a movie, I don't see them.

 

G

post #680 of 1204
LG smart TVs are being accused of reporting all users' viewing habits to LG, even including files accessed via USB drive. See the following articles:

The (partial?) solution is to tell your router to block the URL smartshare.lgtvsdp.com.

LG has issued an official response:
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At LG, we are always aiming to improve our Smart TV experience. Recently, it has been brought to our attention that there is an issue related to viewing information allegedly being gathered without consent. Our customers’ privacy is a very important part of the Smart TV experience so we began an immediate investigation into these claims. Here’s what we found:

Information such as channel, TV platform, broadcast source, etc. that is collected by certain LG Smart TVs is not personal but viewing information. This information is collected as part of the Smart TV platform to deliver more relevant advertisements and to offer recommendations to viewers based on what other LG Smart TV owners are watching. We have verified that even when this function is turned off by the viewers, it continues to transmit viewing information although the data is not retained by the server. A firmware update is being prepared for immediate rollout that will correct this problem on all affected LG Smart TVs so when this feature is disabled, no data will be transmitted.

It has also been reported that the names of media files stored on external drives such as USB flash devices are being collected by LG Smart TVs. While the file names are not stored, the transmission of such file names was part of a new feature being readied to search for data from the internet (metadata) related to the program being watched in order to deliver a better viewing experience. This feature, however, was never fully implemented and no personal data was ever collected or retained. This feature will also be removed from affected LG Smart TVs with the firmware update.

LG regrets any concerns these reports may have caused and will continue to strive to meet the expectations of all our customers and the public. We hope this update clears up any confusion.

Note the text I bolded above. Even after the firmware update, the transmitting of viewing information will be on by default. The end user must go into the TV's privacy settings and turn this feature off.

Unaddressed in LG's statement is the fact that LG is transmitting users' viewing habits in the clear, i.e. without encrypting it.
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What's more, since LG TVs are sending the data unencrypted, it's trivial for anyone on the same home or office network to monitor the communications. That data is similarly available to anyone who has the ability to monitor communications sent over the larger Internet.

I posted this same information in the LA6200 thread.
post #681 of 1204
Have an unusual request for those that own the 55". If I buy this, I'll need to use the stand for a few months but will need to have the tv lifted so my center channel will fit below the screen. LG's website states the stand is around 12.5" deep but doesn't mention how wide. Can someone provide that dimension and maybe even the height from the bottom of the stand to the edge of the screen?

Thanks!
post #682 of 1204
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Originally Posted by Staple View Post

Have an unusual request for those that own the 55". If I buy this, I'll need to use the stand for a few months but will need to have the tv lifted so my center channel will fit below the screen. LG's website states the stand is around 12.5" deep but doesn't mention how wide. Can someone provide that dimension and maybe even the height from the bottom of the stand to the edge of the screen?

I don't use the stand, but I measured it by itself. The stand is 29" wide where it contacts whatever it sits on. It flares out from there as it goes up to the TV. There is only about 3.5" from the bottom of the stand to the bottom of the TV -- not sure exactly the height, since I don't have it attached.

 

G

post #683 of 1204
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Originally Posted by Staple View Post

Have an unusual request for those that own the 55". If I buy this, I'll need to use the stand for a few months but will need to have the tv lifted so my center channel will fit below the screen. LG's website states the stand is around 12.5" deep but doesn't mention how wide. Can someone provide that dimension and maybe even the height from the bottom of the stand to the edge of the screen?

Why not mount the center channel speaker above the TV? You can buy a channel speaker shelf for mounting the speaker on top of your TV. If your center channel speaker is large I think it would make the TV top heavy and dangerous, but as long as it is normal center speaker size I think it's preferable to mount the speaker above the TV.

If using the TV stand is just a temporary solution until you wall-mount the TV, then I'd say just suffer with stereo quadraphonic sound eek.gif for a few months.
post #684 of 1204
Thank you Ginormous!

JP- I would love to mount my center channel on top of the tv. It's a bit heavy though, Polk RM202 that weighs over 5 pounds. I currently have it on a stand made for DVD players sitting on top of my rear projection Samsung. Yeah, time for an upgrade.
post #685 of 1204
I just received a software update from version 4.00.34 to 4.01.04. Don't know of any noticeable changes.
post #686 of 1204
Amazon has the LA7400 fulfilled for $1219.99. I spent an hour with two people at Best Buy doing a price match. Finally got it approved and then they discovered it isn't available from the warehouse or stocked in any of the stores in my area. Their website showed it was stocked in 9 out of 10 stores before I started the process. Ordered from Amazon.
post #687 of 1204
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Originally Posted by skoobydoo View Post

Amazon has the LA7400 fulfilled for $1219.99. I spent an hour with two people at Best Buy doing a price match. Finally got it approved and then they discovered it isn't available from the warehouse or stocked in any of the stores in my area. Their website showed it was stocked in 9 out of 10 stores before I started the process. Ordered from Amazon.

This is EXACTLY what i was talking about earlier in the thread, do not trust the website for anything stock wise, and thats an awesome price. Bestbuys Employee pricing on it was 1349.99 last time i checked.
post #688 of 1204
This may be a dumb question but can I use the remote from a 55GA7900 (with the keyboard on the back) with the 55LA7400?

I just picked up the 7400 at Microcenter for $899.99
They had the 7900 for I believe $1299. but I couldn't see paying $400. more for a different remote. The sales guy said the sets were almost identical. I looked at both and couldn't see a picture quality difference.
post #689 of 1204
Does anyone know if this microcenter sale is still going on? On the website it says its $2,600. That cant be right though if its on amazon for much cheaper though, can it? Do I have to go INTO the store to get the sale? Im pretty far away from one of those stores, but would like to see if Best Buy would price match.
post #690 of 1204

Picked up the 55LA4700 from Micro Center today at $ 899 - I believe the sale runs until Dec 1st if they have it in stock.  In-store pick up only.

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