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post #4921 of 6702
I agree with you about curved, but they will sell some and then scientifically exploit those sales, etc. Samsung has the resources to take the long view, and if anyone can make money in this almost saturated market, they can.

The margins are so slim on TVs, and sales pretty flat, I suspect they are looking for small percentages of sales increase.

http://business.time.com/2013/04/05/boob-tube-saturation-after-tv-sales-decline-worldwide-will-price-drops-follow/

So I expect to see more curved, though not big numbers of sales, and of course the teasing of 4K minus significant content.

I'd like to SEE this new Samsung in person to understand how poorly, or well, it does perform off-axis as I agree with you it could be back to the "sweet spot" WRT viewing - like 2 channel stereo days and electrostatic speakers.
post #4922 of 6702
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I am not a fan of curved display's.. I like mine flat. Unless you sit in the middle it is hard to see properly on the sides.. I don't think curved displays will stay..

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We'll see how well they sell, I guess. I'm interested in checking it out. It sure seems like a gimmick, but could be fine.


Thanks...that's dreadful. And I'd be surprised if too many people fell for that gimmick. While curved screens might work well for a single individual watching in the sweet spot I don't see how they will be practical in the other 89% of real world applications. Anyway, guess that's out for me. With that said, what will be the closest non-curved display replacement for the F8000?
post #4923 of 6702
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Thanks...that's dreadful. And I'd be surprised if too many people fell for that gimmick. While curved screens might work well for a single individual watching in the sweet spot I don't see how they will be practical in the other 89% of real world applications. Anyway, guess that's out for me. With that said, what will be the closest non-curved display replacement for the F8000?

There is no flat 1080p flagship from Samsung for 2014. The only flat flagship from Samsung in 2014 will be 4K. The F8000 appears to be the last flat 1080p flagship from the company and I still think the best "future" proof LED until OLED is widely affordable.
post #4924 of 6702
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There is no flat 1080p flagship from Samsung for 2014. The only flat flagship from Samsung in 2014 will be 4K. The F8000 appears to be the last flat 1080p flagship from the company and I still think the best "future" proof LED until OLED is widely affordable.

Gotcha, thanks. So I'm assuming the highest model flat display from Samsung in 2014 will be the successor to the F7100?
post #4925 of 6702
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There is no flat 1080p flagship from Samsung for 2014. The only flat flagship from Samsung in 2014 will be 4K. The F8000 appears to be the last flat 1080p flagship from the company and I still think the best "future" proof LED until OLED is widely affordable.

I feel the same way. If it would take a long time for OLED prices to drop, I could be interested in a flat full backlight array with local dimming if the price is right. My priorities are: low minimum black level, bigger size (than my present 55") and no clouding. Doesn't matter with what technology. Off axis viewing angle picture quality is less important for me. I sit in the center. Wife on the left, dog on the right. Both wife and dog don't complain about viewing angle picture quality.
post #4926 of 6702
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turboman123, I tried your contrast ratio increase trick and it does offer a slightly noticeable increase in contrast ratio. Because Standard is slightly brighter than Movie I was unable to get a very good before and after comparison.

hoozthatat got an ANSI contrast ratio of 4243:1. That is a very impressive number. You say you got 3549:1 with your contrast ratio increase trick, so I'm wondering what hoozthatat has done to get it higher or if his panel version provides a higher native contrast ratio. I have the TS01, which was the first panel version and the ones most professional reviewers assessed.
What is your version number?
I have a European model. It is wall mounted but I had enough space to read "Version No 01". Nothing else.
post #4927 of 6702
Did anyone else notice the following behavior with his F8000. Approximately once a day at a random time the TV powers on by itself, but the screen stays black. I noticed it because the standby light blinks a few times and then shuts off. It stays off for 20 seconds and then the TV powers itself off. The standby light goes back on.

Already disabled every "auto" setting I could find.
post #4928 of 6702
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Did anyone else notice the following behavior with his F8000. Approximately once a day at a random time the TV powers on by itself, but the screen stays black. I noticed it because the standby light blinks a few times and then shuts off. It stays off for 20 seconds and then the TV powers itself off. The standby light goes back on.

Already disabled every "auto" setting I could find.

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post #4929 of 6702
Hoping someone can help me out here. I just purchased the 55" model in Canada as my panny plasma finally bit the bullet.
I have a Maranz SR6008 home theatre receiver and xbox360, ps3, ps4, apple tv and shaw cable box all hooked into the receiver via HDMI. I have an HDMI out going into the TV slot marked HDMI 3 ARC.
My issue is this: when i try to watch the apple TV i get no sound at all and the picture keeps cutting on/off.
Has anyone had this problem? this TV is driving me nuts (it's been a bad month electronics wise: tv, printer, dishwasher, washer and dryer al toasted themselves within a week of each other eek.gif).
I'm in the midst of updating the firmware on the TV but it's taking longer than an hour.
Any help would be much appreciated.
post #4930 of 6702
If I don't get an f8000 I'll probably be getting a Samsung 4K full array set. 4K needs to be big or sit really close to get the full benefit of 4K which bothers me slightly because I never sit close and I don't know if I can make a 70" TV fit with my current setup. Hoping Samsung comes out with a 1080p full-array sometime this year even though they didn't announce it.
post #4931 of 6702
I would get a 4K full array Samsung LED in a heartbeat but as far as I know, none such model exists. Samsung is obsessed with edge lighting.
post #4932 of 6702
I'm looking at purchasing an UN65F8000. This thread is very long, so I'm hoping someone who's followed it can give me the thumbnail sketch on screen uniformity, "flash lighting", edge light bleeding etc. S&V review says this model was a big step forward in alleviating these issues... FWIW, I've owned a Sammy 6500 edge lit for a couple years. The slight "cloudiness" is somewhat tolerable, but the flash lighting is something I won't live with any more in my new HDTV. Has the local dimming feature made this tolerable? Is there another model (or manufacturer) someone wants to suggest that doesn't have these issues? TIA.
post #4933 of 6702
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I would get a 4K full array Samsung LED in a heartbeat but as far as I know, none such model exists. Samsung is obsessed with edge lighting.

I'm pretty sure Samsung is releasing full-array local dimming 4K Sets in April/May.
post #4934 of 6702
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I'm pretty sure Samsung is releasing full-array local dimming 4K Sets in April/May.

Hmm......would you happen to have a source?
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post #4936 of 6702
just to add all settings are Buzz's except the backlight as indicated.....the camera flash creates "light bleed" @ backlight of 20. Theres no bleed at all as seen from the centre. Great tv:)smile.gif
post #4937 of 6702
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just to add all settings are Buzz's except the backlight as indicated.....the camera flash creates "light bleed" @ backlight of 20. Theres no bleed at all as seen from the centre. Great tv:)smile.gif

Glad to see it is working for you! smile.gif
post #4938 of 6702
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I'm pretty sure Samsung is releasing full-array local dimming 4K Sets in April/May.

Full array local dimming is expensive to make that is why we don't see too many of those. Should be interesting to see what happens. smile.gif
post #4939 of 6702
Just fyi.. I was at Best Buy during lunch and saw the Samsung 4K tv. Very nice on pictures but once they showed action (movement), it looked terrible. I would take the F8000 any day over what they had..
post #4940 of 6702
I must've read wrong or confused LG, Sharp, Vizio, and Toshiba having full-array 4K sets coming out. Assumed Samsung would do the same but couldn't find any info. Sorry.
post #4941 of 6702
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Originally Posted by AncientAlien View Post

I must've read wrong or confused LG, Sharp, Vizio, and Toshiba having full-array 4K sets coming out. Assumed Samsung would do the same but couldn't find any info. Sorry.

Let's see how the reviews are as well as the price. Full array 4K will be pricey, I am sure!
post #4942 of 6702
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Let's see how the reviews are as well as the price. Full array 4K will be pricey, I am sure!

No question they'll be pricey but I, and I'm sure many more, will gladly spend a little more for FULL-ARRAY as oppose to Edge-Lit. Is it really that much more though? I bought a Full-Array 55" HX950 for $3500 last year but the 55" Edge-Lit F8000 wasn't that much cheaper when it came out.
post #4943 of 6702
I will hold out till 4K OLED! smile.gif

Since I got the F8000 now, I am good for the next 5 to 10 years..

I came from a Mitsubishi 55 inch rear projection TV that lasted 15 years! smile.gif

So, I am not in a hurry. I can wait it out! smile.gif
post #4944 of 6702
I bought my 55F8000 after I sold my 5 year old and calibrated Panasonic Plasma 42THPZ85E
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Thanks...that's dreadful. And I'd be surprised if too many people fell for that gimmick. While curved screens might work well for a single individual watching in the sweet spot I don't see how they will be practical in the other 89% of real world applications. Anyway, guess that's out for me. With that said, what will be the closest non-curved display replacement for the F8000?

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I will hold out till 4K OLED! smile.gif

Since I got the F8000 now, I am good for the next 5 to 10 years..

Check out this picture of a 55" LG OLED curved screen. That obnoxious wavy stuff in the reflection is actually dead straight vertical blinds behind me when I took the photo. Ugly and distracting.

post #4947 of 6702
oh my!. I thought that was some type of abstract art! lol smile.gif
post #4948 of 6702
is there a way to go back on firmware on the un55f8000.
I am running 1118.1 and would like to go back to 1116.1 picture seem better.
I downloaded it and extract it on a USB, but tv would not load it any advice please thanks.
post #4949 of 6702
You can`t go back , once you update that`s it .

1118 is not even on Samsung`s web site , this is a weird one , however I notice no change from 1116 or 1117

Later, smile.gif

G. 
post #4950 of 6702
Thanks, hopefully someone can come up with a solution to downgrading like they did on the D series plasma tv.
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