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post #5071 of 6716
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

I got that sugarsync pop-up too and I had no idea what it was about. It went away before I had time to do anything about it so I'm still not clear what it even is. Hilarious about Samsung's comment about unsupported firmware - wow they're ignorant at Samsung. Shockingly ignorant and useless.

I forgot to update this thread... but the next day, the firmware did update with version 18 and since then I haven't had the problems I was describing. The SugarSync notice came up ONCE and once only and the power issues are gone.
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Is that test pattern something internal to the TV or is that a disc you're using?
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Well replacement TV will be here tonight. Sure hope my luck changes. Will update when it gets here.

Thanks to everyone here who has been so helpful with everything.
post #5074 of 6716
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Originally Posted by s_mack View Post

Is that test pattern something internal to the TV or is that a disc you're using?

I was able to find a test pattern from a tv station that is not "live" yet so to speak.

There are a lot of Digital channels but for some there is no activity so they put up the color bar.

post #5075 of 6716
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Originally Posted by s_mack View Post

Is that test pattern something internal to the TV or is that a disc you're using?

The grayscale pattern I posted is under Menu - Picture - Advanced Settings - Expert Patterns. There's also a color pattern there.
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Originally Posted by stsva View Post

It's under Menu - Picture - Advanced Settings - Expert Patterns.

yes, this way as well! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by stsva View Post

The grayscale pattern I posted is under Menu - Picture - Advanced Settings - Expert Patterns. There's also a color pattern there.

stsva, I was afraid to get harshly judged but I had the same red highlight problem. And it only happens on Standard Mode. I was able to fix it with rather absurd white balance settings but they work for my panel. I have my RGB gain set as: R-Gain: 0 G-Gain: 15 B-Gain: 50. The grey scale is impeccably neutral all the way through, the only con is that the peak white is cooler than movie mode and there is no way to get the warmth of Movie Mode on Standard Mode without suffering red highlights on the higher end of the greyscale. Try that out and see if it works for your panel. Make sure you're back on Warm2 as well.
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Originally Posted by stsva View Post

The grayscale pattern I posted is under Menu - Picture - Advanced Settings - Expert Patterns. There's also a color pattern there.

Thanks!

Although, "Advanced Settings" is greyed out for me. I've not yet been able to figure out why some menus aren't available to me at some times. At other times, they are.
post #5079 of 6716
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Originally Posted by stsva View Post

The grayscale pattern I posted is under Menu - Picture - Advanced Settings - Expert Patterns. There's also a color pattern there.

Thanks!

Although, "Advanced Settings" is greyed out for me. I've not yet been able to figure out why some menus aren't available to me at some times. At other times, they are.
It depends on which picture mode you're using - try Movie or Standard.

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post #5080 of 6716
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Originally Posted by stsva View Post

The grayscale pattern I posted is under Menu - Picture - Advanced Settings - Expert Patterns. There's also a color pattern there.

stsva, I was afraid to get harshly judged but I had the same red highlight problem. And it only happens on Standard Mode. I was able to fix it with rather absurd white balance settings but they work for my panel. I have my RGB gain set as: R-Gain: 0 G-Gain: 15 B-Gain: 50. The grey scale is impeccably neutral all the way through, the only con is that the peak white is cooler than movie mode and there is no way to get the warmth of Movie Mode on Standard Mode without suffering red highlights on the higher end of the greyscale. Try that out and see if it works for your panel. Make sure you're back on Warm2 as well.

DRN94 - thanks for the info. I'm going to stick with Cool for now in Standard - here are my WB settings, which have tamed the blues somewhat and seem to be giving nicely natural-looking skintones:
Offset-
R 24
G 24
B 20
Gain-
R 18
G 22
B 12
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I'm still tweaking my settings, but feel like I've made some progress.

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post #5082 of 6716
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Originally Posted by stsva View Post

DRN94 - thanks for the info. I'm going to stick with Cool for now in Standard - here are my WB settings, which have tamed the blues somewhat and seem to be giving nicely natural-looking skintones:
Offset-
R 24
G 24
B 20
Gain-
R 18
G 22
B 12

My dark tones are very sensitive to offset adjustments. If any of the three are not the exact same values, then that leads to obvious discoloration on my set. I prefer the warmest white Standard Mode offers and that is with Warm2. My Cool is overly blue. I suppose I could readjust the white balance to compensate but I feel like Warm2 offers a natively warmer white tone than Cool. The only reason why I have to crank the B-Gain all the way up is to keep the odd red/green discoloration on the higher white tones away. I've noticed that raising the other gains had little to no effect on the white tone unless red was cranked up which resulted in discoloration on the greyscale, so cranking the blue was the only option.

And since the higher levels of the gain (25+) actually boosts your white balance, you get a slightly but noticeable increase in the contrast ratio as turbo pointed out a few pages ago.
post #5083 of 6716
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Originally Posted by DRN94 View Post

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Originally Posted by stsva View Post

DRN94 - thanks for the info. I'm going to stick with Cool for now in Standard - here are my WB settings, which have tamed the blues somewhat and seem to be giving nicely natural-looking skintones:
Offset-
R 24
G 24
B 20
Gain-
R 18
G 22
B 12

My dark tones are very sensitive to offset adjustments. If any of the three are not the exact same values, then that leads to obvious discoloration on my set. I prefer the warmest white Standard Mode offers and that is with Warm2. My Cool is overly blue. I suppose I could readjust the white balance to compensate but I feel like Warm2 offers a natively warmer white tone than Cool. The only reason why I have to crank the B-Gain all the way up is to keep the odd red/green discoloration on the higher white tones away. I've noticed that raising the other gains had little to no effect on the white tone unless red was cranked up which resulted in discoloration on the greyscale, so cranking the blue was the only option.

And since the higher levels of the gain (25+) actually boosts your white balance, you get a slightly but noticeable increase in the contrast ratio as turbo pointed out a few pages ago.
It seems to be a balancing act to get all the pieces to work well together. I and I'm sure many others appreciate your thoughts on this.

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Originally Posted by stsva View Post

It seems to be a balancing act to get all the pieces to work well together. I and I'm sure many others appreciate your thoughts on this.

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It is quite the balancing act indeed. And hopefully people can learn from the hour that I spend fiddling with the balance. Fortunately I've found a reasonable compromise of having a very linear greyscale despite the slightly cooler color temp even though I'm on Warm2. But it just appears that Standard Mode is just natively cooler than Movie Mode and that what I have is as warm as it can get without noticeable deviations from grey. And the Blue cranked to 50 offers a higher peak white which does make a noticeable increase in the contrast ratio.
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Originally Posted by DRN94 View Post

stsva, I was afraid to get harshly judged but I had the same red highlight problem. And it only happens on Standard Mode. I was able to fix it with rather absurd white balance settings but they work for my panel. I have my RGB gain set as: R-Gain: 0 G-Gain: 15 B-Gain: 50. The grey scale is impeccably neutral all the way through, the only con is that the peak white is cooler than movie mode and there is no way to get the warmth of Movie Mode on Standard Mode without suffering red highlights on the higher end of the greyscale. Try that out and see if it works for your panel. Make sure you're back on Warm2 as well.
I use standard too try keeping the white balance on its default and just reduce contrast untill theres no discoloration. On my set using disney wow contrast had to be on 84, but colors are spot on
post #5086 of 6716
Does anyone make some nice wrap around style glasses that work with this TV? Seeing 2d in my peripherals makes me a little dizzy. Lol

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Does anyone make some nice wrap around style glasses that work with this TV? Seeing 2d in my peripherals makes me a little dizzy. Lol

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I bought these.  I like them.  Much better than the cheap sammy ones

 

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=109&cp_id=10909&cs_id=1090902&p_id=9460&seq=1&format=2

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Originally Posted by seansingh7326 View Post

I use standard too try keeping the white balance on its default and just reduce contrast untill theres no discoloration. On my set using disney wow contrast had to be on 84, but colors are spot on

I did that at one point but the peak white was a bit underwhelming for my tastes making the overall contrast appear weak to me. I'm satisfied with taking the higher peak white even if that means the overall color temp is cooler than D6500K.
post #5089 of 6716
Finally got my working TV. Updating and going to start messing around with it.
post #5090 of 6716
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Originally Posted by Thelt2000x View Post

Finally got my working TV. Updating and going to start messing around with it.

*jumping up and down* fot Thelt  

post #5091 of 6716
What's the price you guys are paying for the set? Since I live right next to EastCoastTV's I bought mine from them. It was only $1969, which was a great price compared to any stores I've seen it in. The delivery guy was late as heck, but the box was in perfect condition and it powered up upon delivery. No pixel problems and I'm thinking about buying an extended warranty but don't know where to get it.
post #5092 of 6716
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Originally Posted by Thelt2000x View Post

Finally got my working TV. Updating and going to start messing around with it.

Congrats! Take some pictures!
post #5093 of 6716
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Originally Posted by Opentoe View Post

What's the price you guys are paying for the set? Since I live right next to EastCoastTV's I bought mine from them. It was only $1969, which was a great price compared to any stores I've seen it in. The delivery guy was late as heck, but the box was in perfect condition and it powered up upon delivery. No pixel problems and I'm thinking about buying an extended warranty but don't know where to get it.

You can extend your one year with three more months by registering with Samsung. Six months prior to your 18 month expiration with samsung you will get offer for additional warranty coverage thru them if you want.

Other options are square trade from amazon or costco.
post #5094 of 6716
Hi there. I just got my ES8000 replaced with F8000. Question - how do I get SD channels to take full screen on this TV?

I've had a few samsung models in a past (A, B, C) and every new model worked differently than the previous one in this regard. I'd set cable box to 1080i and 4:3 stretch on some, to 1080i and 4:3 480i/p on others. With ES8000 I had set to 720 and 4:3 off and all non-hd channels were always taking all horizontal space and most of the time all vertical.

My TV setting has always been set to screen fit.
Always used HDMI connection
Cable box Motorola xfinity RNG150N


I played with CB settings and I can make it take all horizontal, but can't figure out how to get all (or as much as possible) vertical. I don't want to do WIDE FIT as it seems ot mess up even HD channels.

If there's no easy way to do what I'm trying to do, is there a way to have different screen settings for different resolutions, like screen fit for HD and wide fit for SD? (I think Sony XBR4/5 allowed that, but I could be wrong)

Thanks

P.S. Yeah, I know F8000 and sd channels... in 2014.... but most of the channels I use are SD and ES8000 had the best Samsug image quality I ever seen and I hope F8000 will be even better (at least cnet rating is very high, while ES8000 was pretty bad not sure why), but ES8000 with nitra's settings is much better than F8000 out of the box IMO
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Originally Posted by HPQ View Post


You can extend your one year with three more months by registering with Samsung. Six months prior to your 18 month expiration with samsung you will get offer for additional warranty coverage thru them if you want.

Other options are square trade from amazon or costco.

Costco changed their policy for Square Trade.  You now must have bought the TV from Costco.  I bought my SquareTrade warranty from Costco before they changed their policy.  But can still buy from Amazon and is cheaper than buying direct from SquareTrade.

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I got the 55F8000 mounted today, connected to Wi-Fi, Netflix set up, a few picture adjustments made and all I can say is, it's very good. Clouding? Oh yeah, it's edgelit. In a day lit room it only took one dark scene to show it. The right side top and bottom caught my eye. Off axis viewing? It's LCD. Maybe I had myself overly hyped about this set, but right now I'm a bit PO'd., not at Samsung or any other manufacturer, but at the general public consumer. This ultra slim technology sells like hotcakes, so why cater to the videophile? Who needs plasma? Obviously very few. Just like MP3s are good enough for 95% of listeners, why cater to audiophiles. FLAC? What's that? How many years ago was it that Sony debuted their 13" OLED...10? Hey, no rush, the critics aren't our bread and butter, the undemanding public are.

Sorry for the rant, just I had to get this off my chest.
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Originally Posted by FltTester View Post

I got the 55F8000 mounted today, connected to Wi-Fi, Netflix set up, a few picture adjustments made and all I can say is, it's very good. Clouding? Oh yeah, it's edgelit. In a day lit room it only took one dark scene to show it. The right side top and bottom caught my eye. Off axis viewing? It's LCD. Maybe I had myself overly hyped about this set, but right now I'm a bit PO'd., not at Samsung or any other manufacturer, but at the general public consumer. This ultra slim technology sells like hotcakes, so why cater to the videophile? Who needs plasma? Obviously very few. Just like MP3s are good enough for 95% of listeners, why cater to audiophiles. FLAC? What's that? How many years ago was it that Sony debuted their 13" OLED...10? Hey, no rush, the critics aren't our bread and butter, the undemanding public are.

Sorry for the rant, just I had to get this off my chest.

I agree. But unfortunately the masses have spoken. Edge Lit is the way now.

therefore, resign to this fact and enjoy! lol smile.gif

I have made peace with it and am now enjoying the tv! smile.gif
post #5098 of 6716
Just picked up a UN65F8000. Got the 5 year ext warranty thrown in, and some Samsung BT speaker heh.

So far, very nice! I like the DirecTV guide stuff, but I cannot figure out how to get the smart remote to control my receiver volume directly, so I think I will just be sticking with the DirecTV remote for most things (I used to own a Harmony but it died, so I'm in the cheap mode atm)

Resogun looked very good. Knack (PS 4) looked very contrasty, but of course it's set to max contrast ATM. I have not calibrated it yet.

Watching the NBA rising stars game looks VERY good except for the occasional pixels around the basketball when it's mid-flight. I guess I'll just have to live with that. I still have my 57" DLP and I am recording programs so I'll plug it in later to compare content.

I ordered a couple of mono price HDMI+Ethernet cables since my current 6' is not long enough (my stereo is on the left side) so I cannot mount/move it until those arrive.

Scenes that have a lot of dark background seem very dark, like the guys on studio, so I'll see what calibration does there.

I kicked the backlight up to 12, and now it is much brighter (it was 11)

So anyway I love the thing so far altho I don't want to use the built in speakers and it seems like ARC is not only a problem with my Denon AVR-1913 (I have not tried) but it only outputs PCM 2.0 to the receiver. which is ok for now but eventually I might just get a sound bar that simulates surround (We don't have a good space for rear speakers)

If i didn't have 5 devices I could plug into the TV, but that's out (PS3, PS4, Xbox 360, DTV Genie, Apple TV)
post #5099 of 6716
Does anyone have a thin line of pixels on the very edge of their TV that is "lighter" than the rest of the screen? I would say from the very edge to about 4-6 pixels in.
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Here is a pic.
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