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post #931 of 6701
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Originally Posted by keeso View Post

I'm new to led so maybe it isn't backlight bleeding I'm seeing. There are three spots (top, middle, and bottom, that stick out maybe 1/8 inch from the bezel and are like 2 inches tall each) on each side where the color is much brighter, (especially in bright scenes). I looked at the f8000 and f7100 in Sears and Bestbuy and none of them have what I do; that's why I think I am not using the correct terminology.

That may be some other issue, possibly clouding or stress on the panel.

If you clean/touch any LED/LCD screen it creates a lighter "bubble" of light.

Maybe its uneven pressure on those parts of the screen. Backlight bleed is also because of uneven pressure.
post #932 of 6701
Does anyone know if the Netflix app provides 3D streaming? I think Netflix has something called "Super HD", but I don't see how to sort for it with the Samsung app.
post #933 of 6701
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Originally Posted by RMSko View Post

Does anyone know if the Netflix app provides 3D streaming? I think Netflix has something called "Super HD", but I don't see how to sort for it with the Samsung app.

Netflix doesn't have 3D streaming yet but they're working on it. I also read that 4K/UHD is a possibility as well. Don't hold your breath on when it actually happens though.
post #934 of 6701
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

Native shuts off color processing and works best for 3D LUT production such as I do.. Auto does a very good job on the F8000. Custom is for calibrating and requires a meter and software. In all cases the signal then goes to the color decoder where the YCbCr 4:2:2 format is converted to RBG and sent to the panel for display.

If you don't calibrate, use Auto. No other mode will be as close to correct.
It's either incorrect grayscale or clipping red. When red is clipped the brightest end looks blue and this becomes your white reference making lower luminance appear redish.

Thanks for the info about the Color Space.

As far as the pinkish push with the white clipping test, I didn't think I was clipping red, but I'm certainly not an expert in those things. I'll try to double-check, but I did take a look at the color clipping pattern on the AVS disc, and all the flashing bars seemed to be visible, though the farthest right bars were a bit hard to see. They looked pretty much like they did on my old ES7500. I'm not sure how to check for greyscale though - I'll have to see if the AVS or WOW discs have a test pattern to check that.

I wonder then if this is normal for the F8000 line to have this red issue or could it just be this particular set? I'm guessing this can be corrected with a calibration but it's too bad that out the box this is happening. Well the replacement set is coming anyways so it will interesting to see if the same thing happens on the new one.
post #935 of 6701
Anyone tried Verizon's Redbox Instant? Any comments on content or picture quality? Compared to Netflix?
post #936 of 6701
Interaction issue:

I got my un60f8000.

My FiOS box, Blu-Ray (Sony with Internet connectability), etc, is all connected to my Sony receiver STRDG720 and the 60f is connected to it via HDMI and optical.

Was listening to a music CD on the blu-ray. I had turned on the receiver and blu-ray, each with its own remote, but the TV also came on and showed the splash screen from the blu-ray, then the Track # that was playing, etc.

I used the TV remote to turn it off, but that also turned off the Sony blu-ray. When I used the blu-ray remote to turn it back on, the TV also came back on.

Can I listen to a CD without the TV on? I'm surprised at the inter-communications between brands.

Thanks!

Jaums
post #937 of 6701
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Originally Posted by jaums View Post

Interaction issue:

I got my un60f8000.

My FiOS box, Blu-Ray (Sony with Internet connectability), etc, is all connected to my Sony receiver STRDG720 and the 60f is connected to it via HDMI and optical.

Was listening to a music CD on the blu-ray. I had turned on the receiver and blu-ray, each with its own remote, but the TV also came on and showed the splash screen from the blu-ray, then the Track # that was playing, etc.

I used the TV remote to turn it off, but that also turned off the Sony blu-ray. When I used the blu-ray remote to turn it back on, the TV also came back on.

Can I listen to a CD without the TV on? I'm surprised at the inter-communications between brands.

Thanks!

Jaums

As long as the Blu-ray player, (CD Player), is connected with a separate sound cable, (Digital Coax/Optical), or connected to a receiver then yes you can turn the TV off and still get sound through your speakers. You can turn off the HDMI Control on the F8000 and your stuff won't turn off/on.
post #938 of 6701
Hey guys I just bought this TV and found this great forum.

I have a question.

I have a TiVo, series 3 I think, and I can't seem to be able to pair it with the smart remote.

The Tivo model # is TCD746320. When I enter that in the set up screen for the set top box the Samsung TV doesn't seem to recognize it. I can still watch TV, but I would love to be able to use just the smart remote to control both devices.

Am I doing something wrong ?
post #939 of 6701
Found a bug.

I have my 55F8000 connected to my Yamaha RX-V671 via HDMI and I'm using Optical for SmartHub sound. I have the TV sound tuned off and set to External Speakers. When I use motion control to open SmartHub, a pop up says "Your TV is set to use external speakers. Adjust the volume on the connected speakers directly." I use motion control to click ok and it keeps popping up. It only closes when I use the remote. I am on Firmware 1101. I know that a simple work around is to just use the remote, but I'm curious if anyone else experienced this bug.

Thanks!
post #940 of 6701
Does anyone know why the folks on Amazon.com are ripping this TV a new a$$hole? It has as many 1-star ratings as 5-star Also very curious is the fact that they are claiming Samsung is paying people to post bogus reviews online!!

I just bought the 60" F8000 (after being talked out of the 64" 8500 plasma by the sales guy) and I'm concerned I may have jumped the gun a little.
post #941 of 6701
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Originally Posted by Lungfixer View Post

Does anyone know why the folks on Amazon.com are ripping this TV a new a$$hole? It has as many 1-star ratings as 5-star Also very curious is the fact that they are claiming Samsung is paying people to post bogus reviews online!!

I just bought the 60" F8000 (after being talked out of the 64" 8500 plasma by the sales guy) and I'm concerned I may have jumped the gun a little.

The guy responsible for 90% of the posts over there was banned from here. He is a "crusader" playing a one-note samba.

He claims, for instance, that the F8000 is the same panel as the ES8000--as do some around here-- with no evidence to back it up, and which claim has been debunked recently on one of the two F8000 threads.

In the end, trust your own eyes.
post #942 of 6701
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Originally Posted by Lungfixer View Post

Does anyone know why the folks on Amazon.com are ripping this TV a new a$$hole? It has as many 1-star ratings as 5-star Also very curious is the fact that they are claiming Samsung is paying people to post bogus reviews online!!

I just bought the 60" F8000 (after being talked out of the 64" 8500 plasma by the sales guy) and I'm concerned I may have jumped the gun a little.

I'm just curious what the sales guy had to say about plasma to talk you out of it. I'm not a huge plasma fan myself - I think both technologies have issues. I'm just curious what the sales guy had to say about it.

The sales guy I talked to the other day while arranging my replacement was talking about how they've had a lot of issues with their LCD panels lately - he said when they got one of the new panels in, it developed severe flashlight bleeding after just a few days on display - they replaced the set 4 times to get a good one on display. He said many of their panels develop issues on display. I saw a plasma display last year that had a bright green vertical line on the panel, and I've seen the same kind of thing with an LCD display once there too.

Quality is just a luck of the draw with these sets.
post #943 of 6701
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Originally Posted by Lungfixer View Post

Does anyone know why the folks on Amazon.com are ripping this TV a new a$$hole? It has as many 1-star ratings as 5-star Also very curious is the fact that they are claiming Samsung is paying people to post bogus reviews online!!
I wouldn't doubt all companies at some point pay or bribe for reviews. Try reading the 1 star reviews, they can be quite funny. Most do not understand how to set their settings or never have owned the set yet. I posted up a review over there but keep mind users on amazon are basic end users, not obcessed like us.
post #944 of 6701
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Originally Posted by sstvnoob View Post

Hey guys I just bought this TV and found this great forum.

I have a question.

I have a TiVo, series 3 I think, and I can't seem to be able to pair it with the smart remote.

The Tivo model # is TCD746320. When I enter that in the set up screen for the set top box the Samsung TV doesn't seem to recognize it. I can still watch TV, but I would love to be able to use just the smart remote to control both devices.

Am I doing something wrong ?

hey i had the same issues with my Tivo set. Make sure your IR extender is setting generally pretty close to your Tivo box, also when doing the setup to configure it i believe mine was 8/9 tires to change the channel. Even after i finally got the channel to change using the setup guide i still wasn't able to change any channels. somehow randomly about 30 minutes later it started working! channels were changing. If you are able to get that far i would recommend waiting a little bit before jumping to conclusion that it's not going to work.
post #945 of 6701
Anyone knows how to set the TV's channel guide to only show HD channels instead of all the channels? I have a Verizon Fios.
post #946 of 6701
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Originally Posted by moonhawk View Post

The guy responsible for 90% of the posts over there was banned from here. He is a "crusader" playing a one-note samba.

He claims, for instance, that the F8000 is the same panel as the ES8000--as do some around here-- with no evidence to back it up, and which claim has been debunked recently on one of the two F8000 threads.

In the end, trust your own eyes.


He's also banned from the UK avforums, by the looks of it he's hijacked amazon and turned it into his own little rant forum.
post #947 of 6701
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Originally Posted by KPunk View Post

hey i had the same issues with my Tivo set. Make sure your IR extender is setting generally pretty close to your Tivo box, also when doing the setup to configure it i believe mine was 8/9 tires to change the channel. Even after i finally got the channel to change using the setup guide i still wasn't able to change any channels. somehow randomly about 30 minutes later it started working! channels were changing. If you are able to get that far i would recommend waiting a little bit before jumping to conclusion that it's not going to work.

Thanks for the advice, but when you say 8/9 tries, do you mean going through the set up process that many times ? Or are you talking about the step where they literally give you multiple tries to click the channel buttons on the remote in order to calibrate it ? Because after the third try the system sort of gives up and asks me to type in my TiVo model #, but it doesn't recognize it. After that the system just shows me a message telling me that the changing channels feature won't be available for me and then it exits the set up screen.
post #948 of 6701
What is the blue lines of light across the TV screen? It showed up when viewing the movie “Cinema 8” being streamed from Netflix. It happened in dark scenes with a bright light area. Is this light bleed? I was viewing the movie in Natural mode and then switched over to movie mode. If this is a problem of the TV than how can I fix it? OR is it the movie itself?
post #949 of 6701
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Originally Posted by phoenixone View Post

Anyone knows how to set the TV's channel guide to only show HD channels instead of all the channels? I have a Verizon Fios.

Bring up the guide then hit Options on the fios remote
post #950 of 6701
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

Bring up the guide then hit Options on the fios remote

Thanks for helping out. What I meant was the guide when using the Samsung Touch Remote. Long pressing the touch pad and/or pressing the guide button on the lower right hand of the Touch Remote.
post #951 of 6701
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Originally Posted by clayhans View Post

What is the blue lines of light across the TV screen? It showed up when viewing the movie “Cinema 8” being streamed from Netflix. It happened in dark scenes with a bright light area. Is this light bleed? I was viewing the movie in Natural mode and then switched over to movie mode. If this is a problem of the TV than how can I fix it? OR is it the movie itself?

What movie was it? Was it just a few lines? Did they run the length of the TV (Horizontal/Vertical)? Did you only see it on that movie? An easy way to see if anomalies are TV related or something different is to use the Guide/Menu while you see anomaly. If the problem is showing up over Guide/Menu images then it's probably the TV.
post #952 of 6701
holy crap I just got best buy to price match the tv to abes of maine for $2134.00 the 55 inch version. Go me! First bestbuy wouldn't do it to greystone appliances but the next bestbuy did it to abes!
post #953 of 6701
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Originally Posted by clayhans View Post

What is the blue lines of light across the TV screen? It showed up when viewing the movie “Cinema 8” being streamed from Netflix. It happened in dark scenes with a bright light area. Is this light bleed? I was viewing the movie in Natural mode and then switched over to movie mode. If this is a problem of the TV than how can I fix it? OR is it the movie itself?

Not sure what this could be. Could this be lens flares in the film - like Abrams uses in his films like Star Trek and Super 8? I never saw Cinema 8 so I can't say. Abrams uses that effect heavily in his films.
post #954 of 6701
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Originally Posted by mranbel View Post

holy crap I just got best buy to price match the tv to abes of maine for $2134.00 the 55 inch version. Go me! First bestbuy wouldn't do it to greystone appliances but the next bestbuy did it to abes!

Good job! I had the same experience.
post #955 of 6701
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Originally Posted by clayhans View Post

What is the blue lines of light across the TV screen? It showed up when viewing the movie “Cinema 8” being streamed from Netflix. It happened in dark scenes with a bright light area. Is this light bleed? I was viewing the movie in Natural mode and then switched over to movie mode. If this is a problem of the TV than how can I fix it? OR is it the movie itself?

Anamorphic lens flares.
post #956 of 6701
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Originally Posted by clayhans View Post

What is the blue lines of light across the TV screen? It showed up when viewing the movie “Cinema 8” being streamed from Netflix. It happened in dark scenes with a bright light area. Is this light bleed? I was viewing the movie in Natural mode and then switched over to movie mode. If this is a problem of the TV than how can I fix it? OR is it the movie itself?

If you're referring to the movie Super 8 - then as someone else posted it's lens flare and intended to be there by the maker - nothing to do with the TV. I've not heard of Cinema 8 - so sorry if my answer is about a totally different movie.
post #957 of 6701
Guys, I really didn't want to post in this thread but sadly, I think I have to now. frown.gif

I am a bit disappointed in my 65" ES8000. I know many people have issues with banding but the more I think about it (And the more I watch sports, particularly the NHL Playoffs), I am not sure I can live with the banding seen in the panning shots. I really thought I could. SO, I'm actually thinking of taking a step down to the 65" F7100. The price would actually be a bit cheaper than the ES8000 and I really want a 65" with no banding. I do not care so much for the voice gestures however it comes down to the Smart LED option.

I have been reading the thread and as Eagle mentioned, to keep the Smart LED on 'Low' so I can try that out. That's really the main difference of not having control of it between the F8000? Am I wise to be considering the 65" 7100 or should I wait for the 7500 (Is there a date for this yet)? or just spend the $1K more and get the F8000? I have to admit I am a bit disappointed in the performance of the 65" in this price range and the Elites and the Sony's are a bit too much right now.

I would like a set that I do not have any buyer's remorse and am starting to get it a bit with the ES8000. I have a lot of ambient light coming into my room so the plasma just isn't an option although its tempting (even with the supposed brightness increase to LED's). Sigh, this has been a frustrating experience and its back to the drawing board. I really want a 65" screen though and am getting impatient.
post #958 of 6701
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Originally Posted by KPunk View Post

hey i had the same issues with my Tivo set. Make sure your IR extender is setting generally pretty close to your Tivo box, also when doing the setup to configure it i believe mine was 8/9 tires to change the channel. Even after i finally got the channel to change using the setup guide i still wasn't able to change any channels. somehow randomly about 30 minutes later it started working! channels were changing. If you are able to get that far i would recommend waiting a little bit before jumping to conclusion that it's not going to work.

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Originally Posted by sstvnoob View Post

Thanks for the advice, but when you say 8/9 tries, do you mean going through the set up process that many times ? Or are you talking about the step where they literally give you multiple tries to click the channel buttons on the remote in order to calibrate it ? Because after the third try the system sort of gives up and asks me to type in my TiVo model #, but it doesn't recognize it. After that the system just shows me a message telling me that the changing channels feature won't be available for me and then it exits the set up screen.

Also, could this be an issue with my cable provider ( RCN http://www.rcn.com/ ) ?

How does the Samsung TV actually get the Guide information? Do the cable providers make a deal with Samsung to give them access to it? If so, could it be that my cable provider hasn't done that?

I've tried placing the IR extender in front of the set top box, on top, next to it, below it. I've gone through the set top box setup guide multiple times and the Smart Remote still can't change channels, or pull up the guide. The Tivo model # isn't recognized by the TV either.

I may end up calling Samsung Tech Support because I would really prefer to just use the Smart Remote and forget about the Tivo Remote.
post #959 of 6701
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Originally Posted by sstvnoob View Post


Also, could this be an issue with my cable provider ( RCN http://www.rcn.com/ ) ?

How does the Samsung TV actually get the Guide information? Do the cable providers make a deal with Samsung to give them access to it? If so, could it be that my cable provider hasn't done that?

I've tried placing the IR extender in front of the set top box, on top, next to it, below it. I've gone through the set top box setup guide multiple times and the Smart Remote still can't change channels, or pull up the guide. The Tivo model # isn't recognized by the TV either.

I may end up calling Samsung Tech Support because I would really prefer to just use the Smart Remote and forget about the Tivo Remote.

Try this:
Hit the source button on the Samsung Remote and see if your cable box is selected as input source. If not, then choose your cable box as input and then you should be able to change channels with the Samsung Remote. If it is already set at your set top box or after you choose it and it still doesn't work, then I'm not sure why it's not working.

Hope this helps.
post #960 of 6701
Thank you, it was the movie and not the F8000. That is a big relief.
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