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post #7231 of 11459
Is anybody with a May 2013 manufacture date on his set? If yes, do you have the horizontal band?
post #7232 of 11459
for those of you who have it on a stand did you have to buy new furniture or is the TV able to hang over the edge on each side what i'm trying to ask does the stand have feet???
post #7233 of 11459
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

Yes.
Just exchange it and re update .. If you dont like it then just get a different tv
post #7234 of 11459
Little Update and Query:

- Today two movies have been on play Coraline and Zathura. Coraline had punchy colors, very inky blacks. On this TV It had the clearness and preciseness of an LCD. Totally loved it. Even the children who were watching noticed the huge difference between this and the TV it replaced. They were totally wowed in many scenes specially where Coraline meets her other dad in his garden. the light effect on the roses and everything seemed so well maintained and presented. I loved the scene where coraline enters through the small door for the first time. The purple color was so vibrant and for the first time I see the shinny dots. Zathura on the other hand was saturated (even though my contrast was on 80) in a very good way. The picture was warm and truly nice without affecting the skin tones. I don't like too warm skin tones. Unlike my previous Sony set which on warm 2 was showing the subtitles in sepia color this TV shows the subtitles white as clean paper. Totally Awesome.

- In the last three days excluding today's hours I have completed over 30 hours on this set. One thing I have not reported was the IR. 30 hours of playing movies which do not count the testing I was doing be it for DVD, Bluray, 3D bluray, PC, AVR. Many times the screen was posed on the menu of a DVD, or on a standby or just on the desktop or XBMC menu. I still have not seen even the slightest hint of an IR biggrin.gif. Absolutely nothing. This is my first plasma and I heard that a TV is more prone to IR during its initial life period. But nothing on this TV yet. Its not that I'm afraid to see it, no. It doesn't bother me. I feel that for me it was a bless to have a previous LCD which became prone to IR. It just prepared me for a plasma without much fear. This plasma is way stronger than the LCD it replaced when it comes to IR. Happy to report that, specially to those who fear from plasma because of IR.

- Today I tried playing few files from a USB Flash drive in the smart hub. The drive had few folders with videos. the ones with MP4 files played nicely but one of the folders that contained few FLV files that I downloaded from youtube did not work. The videos in this folder were not giving me the thumbnail preview and after few seconds the TV would shut itself down and restarts again. Tried it several times but it gave the same result. I think FLV files are supported as per the manual but don't know really was it a corrupted file among the other files or is it a bug? I hope to see some answers whether anybody tried opening flash videos.

- Another thing I would like to know is if there is a way to play the audio from the smart hub to my AVR instead of the TV speakers. Not a big deal but I would love any audio I play on the TV to be played through my AVR. Appreciate your help here.

- I have 3 PCs, two Windows 8 and one iMac, I have few share folders within each and I can see the PCs in the smart hub within the Photos and Videos source options. But when I click on them they do not open. I believe there is a way to gain access to them, however not sure how this can be done. Is it within the settings of the TV or the PCs themselves. Again appreciate your input here.
post #7235 of 11459
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Originally Posted by bargervais View Post

for those of you who have it on a stand did you have to buy new furniture or is the TV able to hang over the edge on each side what i'm trying to ask does the stand have feet???
My 51" 8500 stand stretches a little beyond the ends of my tv furniture table top, but it is fine. There's some rubberized, rectangular feet mounted approx. 6" from the ends on the underside of the 8500 stand (the rubber pieces might be further away from the ends on the larger models, not sure). As long as those feet are sitting on your furniture's table top, you should be fine.
post #7236 of 11459
Hali, I tested youtbue downloads and they played OK, make sure you are getitng the mp4 and not FLV as those may not work favorably with the set. The only issue I ran into when testing at MHT was with the 4K resolution files as it was not a compatible resolution.

Thank you for your continued reports smile.gif
post #7237 of 11459
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Originally Posted by fierce_gt View Post

common error maybe? i can not see any lines on my tv. i'm pretty sure if it's as obvious as others say, it's at least better if not totally fixed on the 'good' units

Me too. Nothing. I tried so hard to see. Actually I made the two delivery men wait and told them that I'm inspecting the TV and if there is anything there you will return it back biggrin.gif. I could see the fear in their face biggrin.gif. So I put the slides on all different colors. I carefully inspected the set and asked them to be honest and tell me if they see anything wink.gif. No banding at all, no dead pixels. I guess they were relieved when I gave them the green light to leave tongue.gif
post #7238 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Halimali View Post

Little Update and Query:

- Today two movies have been on play Coraline and Zathura. Coraline had punchy colors, very inky blacks. On this TV It had the clearness and preciseness of an LCD. Totally loved it. Even the children who were watching noticed the huge difference between this and the TV it replaced. They were totally wowed in many scenes specially where Coraline meets her other dad in his garden. the light effect on the roses and everything seemed so well maintained and presented. I loved the scene where coraline enters through the small door for the first time. The purple color was so vibrant and for the first time I see the shinny dots. Zathura on the other hand was saturated (even though my contrast was on 80) in a very good way. The picture was warm and truly nice without affecting the skin tones. I don't like too warm skin tones. Unlike my previous Sony set which on warm 2 was showing the subtitles in sepia color this TV shows the subtitles white as clean paper. Totally Awesome.

- In the last three days excluding today's hours I have completed over 30 hours on this set. One thing I have not reported was the IR. 30 hours of playing movies which do not count the testing I was doing be it for DVD, Bluray, 3D bluray, PC, AVR. Many times the screen was posed on the menu of a DVD, or on a standby or just on the desktop or XBMC menu. I still have not seen even the slightest hint of an IR biggrin.gif. Absolutely nothing. This is my first plasma and I heard that a TV is more prone to IR during its initial life period. But nothing on this TV yet. Its not that I'm afraid to see it, no. It doesn't bother me. I feel that for me it was a bless to have a previous LCD which became prone to IR. It just prepared me for a plasma without much fear. This plasma is way stronger than the LCD it replaced when it comes to IR. Happy to report that, specially to those who fear from plasma because of IR.

- Today I tried playing few files from a USB Flash drive in the smart hub. The drive had few folders with videos. the ones with MP4 files played nicely but one of the folders that contained few FLV files that I downloaded from youtube did not work. The videos in this folder were not giving me the thumbnail preview and after few seconds the TV would shut itself down and restarts again. Tried it several times but it gave the same result. I think FLV files are supported as per the manual but don't know really was it a corrupted file among the other files or is it a bug? I hope to see some answers whether anybody tried opening flash videos.

- Another thing I would like to know is if there is a way to play the audio from the smart hub to my AVR instead of the TV speakers. Not a big deal but I would love any audio I play on the TV to be played through my AVR. Appreciate your help here.

- I have 3 PCs, two Windows 8 and one iMac, I have few share folders within each and I can see the PCs in the smart hub within the Photos and Videos source options. But when I click on them they do not open. I believe there is a way to gain access to them, however not sure how this can be done. Is it within the settings of the TV or the PCs themselves. Again appreciate your input here.
if your AVR has ARC then use that HDMI input every TV i have had for the past 4 years conected to an AVR i've done it this way and hardly ever used the TV speakers
post #7239 of 11459
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Another thing I would like to know is if there is a way to play the audio from the smart hub to my AVR instead of the TV speakers. Not a big deal but I would love any audio I play on the TV to be played through my AVR. Appreciate your help here.
Hali, does your avr have an optical audio input? Your tv's optical audio output would be my first choice for sending audio only to your avr. The 8500's optical audio output will send audio to a remote source from any active 8500 hdmi input, in addition to all smarthub apps.
post #7240 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

Hali, I tested youtbue downloads and they played OK, make sure you are getitng the mp4 and not FLV as those may not work favorably with the set. The only issue I ran into when testing at MHT was with the 4K resolution files as it was not a compatible resolution.

Thank you for your continued reports smile.gif

Thank you Ph8te for the reply. I guess it might be a corrupted file. I will use mp4 next time.
post #7241 of 11459
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

My 51" 8500 stand stretches a little beyond the ends of my tv furniture table top, but it is fine. There's some rubberized, rectangular feet mounted approx. 6" from the ends on the underside of the 8500 stand (the rubber pieces might be further away from the ends on the larger models, not sure). As long as those feet are sitting on your furniture's table top, you should be fine.
Thanks this is very helpfull knowing the rubberized Pads are not on the ends so your saying they are on the curved part of the stand
post #7242 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Halimali View Post

Thank you Ph8te for the reply. I guess it might be a corrupted file. I will use mp4 next time.

There is a tool\plugin I used to get these, if youd like to know Ill PM you the name smile.gif
post #7243 of 11459
Yes my AVR has both ARC and optical audio input too.
Which one to use? which one is more practical.

Right now the AVR is connected to the TV through HDMI 1

This is my AVR
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V673-7-2-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B007JF85WE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369417757&sr=8-1&keywords=YAMAHA+673
post #7244 of 11459
Use ARC
post #7245 of 11459
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Originally Posted by CSIG1001 View Post

Use ARC
Does ARC work for smarthub apps?
post #7246 of 11459
How can I use ARC. To which HDMI should I connect to the TV? And what should I change in the TV settings?
Will ARC make every audio from TV including the smart hub apps play on my AVR?
post #7247 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Halimali View Post

How can I use ARC. To which HDMI should I connect to the TV? And what should I change in the TV settings?
Will ARC make every audio from TV including the smart hub apps play on my AVR?

Should be labeled on the port which is ARC capable if not definitely in manual, yes you should be able to hear any audio either input or produced interally thru your AVR whether you will get true 5.1 is another story varies from set to set
post #7248 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Halimali View Post

How can I use ARC. To which HDMI should I connect to the TV? And what should I change in the TV settings?
Will ARC make every audio from TV including the smart hub apps play on my AVR?
HDMI input #3 is the only ARC enabled connector on the 8500. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try this if you have an extra hdmi connector lying around the house.
post #7249 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Halimali View Post

Yes my AVR has both ARC and optical audio input too.
Which one to use? which one is more practical.

Right now the AVR is connected to the TV through HDMI 1

This is my AVR
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V673-7-2-Channel-Network-Receiver/dp/B007JF85WE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369417757&sr=8-1&keywords=YAMAHA+673
the ARC is HDMI 3 on the TV it also should say ARC on that input
and don't forget you may have to go into the settings on your AVR and enable ARC my reciever was off by default hope this helps
Edited by bargervais - 5/24/13 at 11:32am
post #7250 of 11459
ARC can be fussy, especially flicking back and forth from ARC to AVR source, as well as integrating nicely with CEC. It's just as easy and more reliable to use an optical cable from the TV to an input on your AMP when you want to use the TV's source for sound.
post #7251 of 11459
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Originally Posted by pieandchips View Post

ARC can be fussy, especially flicking back and forth from ARC to AVR source, as well as integrating nicely with CEC. It's just as easy and more reliable to use an optical cable from the TV to an input on your AMP when you want to use the TV's source for sound.
correct me if Im wrong if you use optical to AVR the only DD would be from the smat hub and OTA scources anything else will only be 2 channels coming from like cable boxes and blue ray to the TV then optical to the AVR from the TV
thats why i like to use ARC as all audeo goes to the receiver full DD sound
post #7252 of 11459
^ The optical cable would ONLY be used for TV source (anything up to DD5.1 which is all the smart hub goes up to anyway).
Other external sources would come the traditional way via HDMI to the AMP which can play the HD sound formats from BluRay etc.
post #7253 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

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Originally Posted by CSIG1001 View Post

Sounds pretty annoying . So basically what you are saying is if you have a man cave or a bad ass theater room completely blacked out you should stay away from this set and buy the reference VT/ZT or go to a real movie theater?
That is what it's sounds like he is saying, of course that is his opinion and there is nothing wrong with that. I am sure people still notice this issue on there Samsung's, there is always unit variation. Most can not see it anyway, or it is so slight as noted its no a big deal.
Wouldn't the conditions needed to make floating blacks a problem with the current firmware be hard to create? As long as the room isn't treated to prevent light from the display being reflected back onto the screen, then it's not a totally dark room. There are non-reflective home theaters built that way for front projection, but I don't think there are very many non-reflective rooms designed for flat panel displays. If all the lights are out in our living room, there is still a good amount of light reflecting from the white walls back onto the screen.

Just a speculation by someone still waiting for a dedicated home theater, and from someone who hasn't the courage to suggest making our living room non-reflective. eek.gif
post #7254 of 11459
The 8500's optical audio supports Dolby Digital (5.1) for any source that sends that type of signal to the tv.
post #7255 of 11459
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post


Anybody in central Wisconsin wanna buy a low time ISF enabled fully calibrated 65VT50???? lololol
Location, location, location. eek.gif
post #7256 of 11459
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Originally Posted by bargervais View Post

for those of you who have it on a stand did you have to buy new furniture or is the TV able to hang over the edge on each side what i'm trying to ask does the stand have feet???

mine hangs over about 4-5 inches on both sides. not the prettiest solution, but functional.

there are a few rubber(ish) pads on the bottom of the stand, not 'feet'.
post #7257 of 11459
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Originally Posted by JW1212 View Post

A few notes/questions:

2) The F8500 definitely buzzes and can be heard on mute from about 10-12ft away. Not horrible but noticeable. Does this level of buzzing vary a lot across different samples? Other people have buzzing or lucky to get a very quiet set? Do the Panasonics buzz as well?

My TV is about the same. At about 15 ft away it's noticeable, but not terribly so. It's much better than the horrible noise from my previous Samsung E7000 Plasma. It's definitely louder if I get closer to the screen. I tried putting some sound dampening behind the TV, and it didn't seem to help. However, when I put my 1/8 inch screen protect I got to save the screen from my 4 and 6 year old tossing stuff the sound is completely gone. This tells me it's definitely coming from the front the TV which I am guessing is the normal plasma buzz people hear. My previous D7000 was near silent, and my 8 year old 42 inch Panasonic Plasma in my bedroom is also silent, so I was hoping this would be the same.

At this point, I am probably going to keep the TV, but there's a small part of me that thinks I should try getting another one just to see if it will be silent. However, aside from the slight buzzing the rest of the TV is great. It would be a bummer if I get a new one which had less buzzing but other issues (banding, dead pixels, uniformity...etc). I still really like the TV and it's PQ. Great stuff.
post #7258 of 11459
Thank you my friends for assisting me. I will try the ARC HDMI connection first. So it will be HDMI out from AVR to HDMI 3 in the TV and then allow the ARC option in the receiver. Is there any option in TV that should be enabled?

If this didn't work out I will use the optical cable
post #7259 of 11459
In the last few weeks, CNET's David Katzmaier has written several reviews of Panasonic's latest plasma panels. The first of those reviews was a whopper—the Panasonic ST60 received the highest recommendation ever given to a television by CNET. The next one was the four-star rated VT60; in that review, Katzmaier said he finally found a "Kuro killer"—a television that outperforms the famed Pioneer Kuro plasma—and stated that the VT60 produced the second-best picture of any HDTV he has ever reviewed


How is the F8500 producing a better picture then a VT60 ?
post #7260 of 11459
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Originally Posted by CSIG1001 View Post

Wow this sounds like a typical korean build...kinda like comparing two car manufactures Hyundai vs honda .
HYUNDAI IS BETTER THAN HONDA!!!
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