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Originally Posted by endlessender View Post

downloading now....

Unfortunately, and surprisingly, it does nothing to change/fix brightness pops in 3D. I was expecting a fix, but not necessarily so soon.. Will contact my contact and see if I can get any info. I'm surprised the FW info specifically talks about brightness pops. confused.gif
post #7592 of 11456
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Originally Posted by endlessender View Post

Unfortunately, and surprisingly, it does nothing to change/fix brightness pops in 3D. I was expecting a fix, but not necessarily so soon.. Will contact my contact and see if I can get any info. I'm surprised the FW info specifically talks about brightness pops. confused.gif

Yes I can second this. 3D brightness pops are still there.
post #7593 of 11456
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Originally Posted by endlessender View Post

Unfortunately, and surprisingly, it does nothing to change/fix brightness pops in 3D. I was expecting a fix, but not necessarily so soon.. Will contact my contact and see if I can get any info. I'm surprised the FW info specifically talks about brightness pops. confused.gif

very strange......
post #7594 of 11456
Thank you all for your advise regarding the HDMI Black Level. I will keep that in mind. But it is good to have both the options enabled on my set so I can check and compare whenever I want.

Today I have surpassed the 100 hours biggrin.gif. So I will boost my contrast to 80 but will still avoid black bars until I hit the 150 - 200 hours.

I'm so loving this TV. Love the clarity and the precise picture it produces. Last night I watched Beastly and Case 39. Both looked very very nice.

One thing I have noticed though that there is a bug with the Cinema Smooth option. If you enable CS then change it to off I guess it triggers the Judder cancellation. You can see the pic get the SOE even though the Judder option is set at off. The workaround for it is to go to the judder cancellation option and just move in its menu until you reach the off again. That way it will disable any effect. This is a bug. Don't know if others have noticed it.
post #7595 of 11456
Just thought I'd let everyone know that I got a replacement 60F8500 today (you may remember I had the horizontal bands and buzz on my previous one).

This panel has much better uniformity. Bands are still visible very faintly very occasionally but nowhere near to the extent they were on my previous panel. For example, no bands are visible at all in the Planet Earth scenes I referred to in an earlier post. So I think it's fair to say that the bands may be present on every panel but there are panels on which they're virtually invisible on almost all real-life content.

Buzz is still there but seems a bit more subdued (and, maybe it's placebo, but seems to have improved just in the hour I've been running the panel). It's still a bit annoying but I can live with it given the panel is much better. I'm going to try putting some acoustic treatment in my room (which I really need for my speakers anyway), including behind the TV, to see if that makes any difference. It's stand-mounted for what it's worth.

I think I can say officially now that this is the best TV I've ever owned or seen, including a 9G Kuro and multiple generations of Panasonic plasmas. The brightness coupled with deep blacks (if not the deepest this year, but better than any of my other TVs including the red-tinted Kuro) gives a picture that is really impressive to me, both in the day and at night. If not for the buzzing and high power consumption, I would find it difficult to justify replacing with anything else in the future. As it stands, it will do me very well until OLED becomes affordable.
post #7596 of 11456
No more camera pop up message with latest firmware 1104.3 for me.

^ With camera tucked away ^
Edited by surfmlb - 5/28/13 at 5:20am
post #7597 of 11456
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Originally Posted by surfmlb View Post

No more camera pop up message with latest firmware 1104.3 for me.

Nice... I'm thinking you mean when the camera is tucked away..
Haven't turned on updates yet (running 1103.1 still), notice any other changes or improvements???
I am liking how Samsung is releasing FW updates as often as they are, they're really all over making this the best TV out there!!

Side note; someone a few pages back asked about DSE and I have to say I've seen none with my F8500 and believe me I've seen lots of it with my previous TV (A850) and I always hated it..
post #7598 of 11456
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Originally Posted by Pinger View Post

Nice... I'm thinking you mean when the camera is tucked away..
Haven't turned on updates yet (running 1103.1 still), notice any other changes or improvements???
I am liking how Samsung is releasing FW updates as often as they are, they're really all over making this the best TV out there!!

Side note; someone a few pages back asked about DSE and I have to say I've seen none with my F8500 and believe me I've seen lots of it with my previous TV (A850) and I always hated it..

Haven't noticed anything else yet because I didn't have any issues that I know of to begin with. Except the little quirks like the camera popup message and some EPG guide features I would like them to fix like being able to remove channels from the guide and when you go back to guide it starts at the channel you are currently on instead of starting at channel 1.
post #7599 of 11456
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Originally Posted by Halimali View Post


One thing I have noticed though that there is a bug with the Cinema Smooth option. If you enable CS then change it to off I guess it triggers the Judder cancellation. You can see the pic get the SOE even though the Judder option is set at off. The workaround for it is to go to the judder cancellation option and just move in its menu until you reach the off again. That way it will disable any effect. This is a bug. Don't know if others have noticed it.

I noticed the same thing last night while playing around watching Star Trek.
post #7600 of 11456
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Originally Posted by surfmlb View Post

No more camera pop up message with latest firmware 1104.3 for me.

^ With camera tucked away ^


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post #7601 of 11456
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Originally Posted by Pinger View Post

Side note; someone a few pages back asked about DSE and I have to say I've seen none with my F8500 and believe me I've seen lots of it with my previous TV (A850) and I always hated it..

I agree. Of the 6 flat panels I've owned over the years my F8500 probably the best of any of them with regards to DSE. Screen uniformity is excellent also.
post #7602 of 11456
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Originally Posted by endlessender View Post

Unfortunately, and surprisingly, it does nothing to change/fix brightness pops in 3D. I was expecting a fix, but not necessarily so soon.. Will contact my contact and see if I can get any info. I'm surprised the FW info specifically talks about brightness pops. confused.gif

Most likely because its a copy and paste of the last firmware notes. Much like the past ones all that was done by the web team was copy\paste then add if needed.....
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Thank Cripes for that! biggrin.gif
post #7604 of 11456
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Originally Posted by surfmlb View Post

No more camera pop up message with latest firmware 1104.3 for me.

^ With camera tucked away ^

that's reason enough for me. i'll upgrade when i get home and tuck the camera back in it's little home.
post #7605 of 11456
What do the notes say?
post #7606 of 11456
I will test this tonight. I'd really like to know if they improved the floating black issue.
post #7607 of 11456
Does this update do any kind of "optimizing" like the previous?
post #7608 of 11456
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What do the notes say?
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post #7609 of 11456
Okay TY. Sorry Tapatalk2 on the go is nasty...
post #7610 of 11456
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Originally Posted by Syllogistic View Post

Just thought I'd let everyone know that I got a replacement 60F8500 today (you may remember I had the horizontal bands and buzz on my previous one).

This panel has much better uniformity. Bands are still visible very faintly very occasionally but nowhere near to the extent they were on my previous panel. For example, no bands are visible at all in the Planet Earth scenes I referred to in an earlier post. So I think it's fair to say that the bands may be present on every panel but there are panels on which they're virtually invisible on almost all real-life content.

Buzz is still there but seems a bit more subdued (and, maybe it's placebo, but seems to have improved just in the hour I've been running the panel). It's still a bit annoying but I can live with it given the panel is much better. I'm going to try putting some acoustic treatment in my room (which I really need for my speakers anyway), including behind the TV, to see if that makes any difference. It's stand-mounted for what it's worth.

Greeting to all. I hate to say this but I am on my second 60" 8500. The first one had beautiful picture and no banding that I could detect but the inherent plasma buzz was more than the wife could tolerate. I could hear it very faintly too with sound off but she could bear it at normal sound volume 10 ft away sitting directly in front. Her hearing is quite a bit better than mine (she's younger) and you married gentlemen out there know... a happy wife is a happy life !!! So I got BB to do an exchange.

I've got about 70 hours or so on the 2nd one. Running D-nice slides night and day except in evenings when we watch it. This one does have some slightly detectable bands and what I call blotches when showing light and medium grey D-nice slides. They are undetectable when watching FIOS or BD content so I think it's not a biggie for me at this point. However, this one buzzes too and just as loud as the first. Before anybody jumps on me, I know, "ALL PLASMAS BUZZ". You would think that with the supreme attention to picture quality that Samsung did to the 8500 they'd also try to deaden the buzz too.

OK, so here's the thing that is really bugging me on this 2nd one. I didn't notice it when the guys from BB were setting it up. I was really intent on making sure the picture came up with no major issues before they left. (yes we did detect the buzz before the crew left and I mentioned it to them and noted it on the paperwork). But after they left we noticed the color of the stand did not match TV's frame color. It's pretty noticeable and aesthetically annoying. The first TV matched pretty well going from my memory. It certainly was not this noticeable. And just for info sake, both TV's were manufactured April 2013.

Here's a couple pictures of the stand and TV frame showing the color difference:



Does anybody have this ?
post #7611 of 11456
Guys with eu model. Does the new firmware have release notes? They dont explain what the firmware does...???
post #7612 of 11456
Mohtly, no that's unusual.
post #7613 of 11456
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Originally Posted by Mohtly View Post

Greeting to all. I hate to say this but I am on my second 60" 8500. The first one had beautiful picture and no banding that I could detect but the inherent plasma buzz was more than the wife could tolerate. I could hear it very faintly too with sound off but she could bear it at normal sound volume 10 ft away sitting directly in front. Her hearing is quite a bit better than mine (she's younger) and you married gentlemen out there know... a happy wife is a happy life !!! So I got BB to do an exchange.

I've got about 70 hours or so on the 2nd one. Running D-nice slides night and day except in evenings when we watch it. This one does have some slightly detectable bands and what I call blotches when showing light and medium grey D-nice slides. They are undetectable when watching FIOS or BD content so I think it's not a biggie for me at this point. However, this one buzzes too and just as loud as the first. Before anybody jumps on me, I know, "ALL PLASMAS BUZZ". You would think that with the supreme attention to picture quality that Samsung did to the 8500 they'd also try to deaden the buzz too.

OK, so here's the thing that is really bugging me on this 2nd one. I didn't notice it when the guys from BB were setting it up. I was really intent on making sure the picture came up with no major issues before they left. (yes we did detect the buzz before the crew left and I mentioned it to them and noted it on the paperwork). But after they left we noticed the color of the stand did not match TV's frame color. It's pretty noticeable and aesthetically annoying. The first TV matched pretty well going from my memory. It certainly was not this noticeable. And just for info sake, both TV's were manufactured April 2013.

Here's a couple pictures of the stand and TV frame showing the color difference:


Does anybody have this ?

Now you have an excuse to wall mount it biggrin.gif
post #7614 of 11456
There wouldn't be any protective plastic left around the frame by any chance?
post #7615 of 11456
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Originally Posted by Mohtly View Post


Here's a couple pictures of the stand and TV frame showing the color difference:

Does anybody have this ?

Well, here's a couple pics of my 8500/stand combo at slightly different viewing angles. The differences seem to be more obvious from different angles, but I couldn't get the bigger disparity as you can in your pics no matter what angle I was viewing from.


post #7616 of 11456
Actually it could be to do with the light in your environment. Brushed aluminum can look different depending on how it's reflecting the light.
post #7617 of 11456
Danf8500
I had the same gap I was able to reseat the unit using just a slight more force....now it's flush to the stand.
post #7618 of 11456
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Originally Posted by bos617 View Post

Danf8500
I had the same gap I was able to reseat the unit using just a slight more force....now it's flush to the stand.
Hey Bos, I'm not sure how you were able to do that. The holes in the back of the display have to line up perfectly with the mounting brackets....there no room for adjustment. ?? I'm okay with the small gap. It give the impression that the tv is floating(levitating) above it's stand..LOL
post #7619 of 11456
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Originally Posted by surfmlb View Post

No more camera pop up message with latest firmware 1104.3 for me.

^ With camera tucked away ^
Do you have to manually load the firmware? When I use autoupdate it says my 1103 is up to date.
post #7620 of 11456
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Originally Posted by coresare View Post

Do you have to manually load the firmware? When I use autoupdate it says my 1103 is up to date.
Yeah, it's not ready for auto download (by tv) yet. Sometime later today or early evening, fw download from tv should be available.
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