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post #8131 of 11481
Congrats Dave. I know how much consideration you gave to your choice, enjoy. smile.gif
post #8132 of 11481
Nice to see more members joining the F8500 club. Congrats Dave
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Thanks to members of this forum, and the VE shootout, which helped me decide on the Samsung 64" F8500. I seemed like a long wait since I sold the Pioneer Elite & purchased the Samsung, but it was great not to worry about imperfections on the PDP after delivery.

Although we will have good weather in the mid-Atlantic today and tomorrow, I've asked for TV viewing for this Father's day weekend. Have a good weekend everyone and Happy Father's Day to you the Dad's !!!
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Originally Posted by DaveC56 View Post

I'll ask if I can post the settings.
Some calibrators do not like there settings posted, but in the end they are your property to do what you please with.......
post #8135 of 11481
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Originally Posted by DaveC56

I'll ask if I can post the settings.
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Some calibrators do not like there settings posted, but in the end they are your property to do what you please with.......
+100!!! It's your tv. You paid the bucks to have your tv calibrated.....You decide if you want to post your tv's calibration results or not. There's no copyright infringements with tv calibrations!
post #8136 of 11481
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+100!!! It's your tv. You paid the bucks to have your tv calibrated.....You decide if you want to post your tv's calibration results or not. There's no copyright infringements with tv calibrations!

It's more out of respect for the calibrators. Many people don't understand that while posted settings may look good they still don't replace a professional calibration.
post #8137 of 11481
This is a matter of contract law not copyright law. The TV's owner signed an agreement with the calibrator spelling out what both parties agreed to before the TV was calibrated. Even if the owner did not read the document, they are bound by the agreed terms in the contract.
Edited by JRWalker - 6/16/13 at 4:45am
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+100!!! It's your tv. You paid the bucks to have your tv calibrated.....You decide if you want to post your tv's calibration results or not. There's no copyright infringements with tv calibrations!

It's more out of respect for the calibrators. Many people don't understand that while posted settings may look good they still don't replace a professional calibration.
To take it a step further, a happy customer posts settings from X's calibration of his set, and due to sample differences, a third party posts that he just tried X's settings, and they look like crap. Good going happy customer. eek.gif
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Originally Posted by DaveC56

I'll ask if I can post the settings.
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Some calibrators do not like there settings posted, but in the end they are your property to do what you please with.......
+100!!! It's your tv. You paid the bucks to have your tv calibrated.....You decide if you want to post your tv's calibration results or not. There's no copyright infringements with tv calibrations!

This is a matter of contract law not copyright law. The TV's owner signed an agreement with the calibrator spelling out what both parties agreed to before the TV was calibrated. Even if the owner did not read the document, they are bound by the agreed terms in the contract.
I've never encountered such a contract. I haven't read anything about such contracts in the customer calibration reports that I've been collecting for several years.
post #8140 of 11481
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

To take it a step further, a happy customer posts settings from X's calibration of his set, and due to sample differences, a third party posts that he just tried X's settings, and they look like crap. Good going happy customer. eek.gif

Agree with this here
post #8141 of 11481
I have to sign a contract before any mechanic will touch my car at the local Jiffy Lube. The contract is that piece of paper that everyone signs at the big X without reading. Their insurance companies would not give them insurance without the legal protection that the contract provides them.

If Calibrators are entering people's homes and working on and taking responsibility for thousand of dollars of A/V equipment without guarantee of payment or limitation of liability then they are gamblers not business men.
Edited by JRWalker - 6/16/13 at 4:46am
post #8142 of 11481
^It's just good conduct asking, that's all smile.gif
post #8143 of 11481
+1 it's common courtesy my calibrator doesn't want his settings posted I respect that because I wish to keep a good business relationship with him

Can he stop me legally no but he could choose.to not calibrate my next set to me it's something I paid for its an investment
post #8144 of 11481
HAPPY early FATHERS DAY to all you dads out there smile.gif
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I wanted to pass along initial feedback on my 64" Samsung F8500. We watched Life of Pi, Newsroom (1st two episodes), Skyfall yesterday and Netflix streaming of Super HD material. The PQ was fantastic in both CAL-DAY & NIGHT modes.

The blacks are black, vibrant colors, great clarity/sharpness and the brightest PDP I've ever owned over the past 10 years.

I am thoroughly impressed with Samsung's engineering and PQ improvement in 2013. More watching on Father's Day!!
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Originally Posted by JRWalker View Post

This is a matter of contract law not copyright law. The TV's owner signed an agreement with the calibrator spelling out what both parties agreed to before the TV was calibrated. Even if the owner did not read the document, they are bound by the agreed terms in the contract.
I do not know any calibrators that make you sign anything. If they did there is always a guy who will bend rules for the business.
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^It's just good conduct asking, that's all smile.gif
I agree wink.gif Just having a conversation.
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

Many people don't understand that while posted settings may look good they still don't replace a professional calibration.
Every TV is different, with this being said, to be accurate, every unit needs its own calibration.
post #8147 of 11481
We watched two more movies today, "Hype Park on the Hudson" and "The Dark Knight Rises" (I own this Bluray for several months and was awaiting the delivery of our new PDP before watching the movie).

TDKR was an excellent movie and the PQ (using either the CAL-Night or CAL-Day setting) was awesome.

Have a good week!
post #8148 of 11481
If someone posts the settings after calibration, it could cost the hard working calibrator new business as the unpaid recipients of the information could decide that they no longer need a calibration. This seems unfair to me, and I would hesitate to do anything that would inadvertently harm the person who did his best to make me happy with his skill and expertise, even if I did pay for it and have the right to do with it as I please.
post #8149 of 11481
^ copying other settings will NOT result in the PQ a real calibration brings forth.

I for one learn a lot viewing Pro values as I attempt to calibrate myself.

I stress in my notes that my values are posted as a starting point.

I would say all but a tiny percentage of people copying other calibration settings would never have their set Pro calibrated anyway, or are going to but whilst waiting, want to play.

2c
post #8150 of 11481
In fact, I would be so bold as to suggest posting values increase business for Calibrators as most users will see an improvement over stock but then will want more i.e. the real deal.
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Originally Posted by pieandchips View Post

In fact, I would be so bold as to suggest posting values increase business for Calibrators as most users will see an improvement over stock but then will want more i.e. the real deal.

Good point but the converse can be true also it may make the set worse in some cases probably rare but I have seen it happen, but no matter the end result it is a work product of the calibrator and it should be up to the calibrator whether the settings are posted imo
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Originally Posted by tomboyter View Post

If someone posts the settings after calibration, it could cost the hard working calibrator new business as the unpaid recipients of the information could decide that they no longer need a calibration. This seems unfair to me, and I would hesitate to do anything that would inadvertently harm the person who did his best to make me happy with his skill and expertise, even if I did pay for it and have the right to do with it as I please.
while i respectfully agree with you, chasing OPs settings has led me to the conclusion that i NEED a professional calibration to get the most out of my set. its fun playing around and seeing the differences others settings have on my particular set but just makes me realize none are perfect for every panel. if anything, its pushing me towards actually getting a prof calibration which i was previously not going to do. its a crap shoot and i truly believe most who use them were not going to get a prof calibration anyway. i really think the percent of people who wont get a prof calib as a result of copying settings is incredibly small. just mho tho!
Edited by ljmart - 6/17/13 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by pieandchips View Post

In fact, I would be so bold as to suggest posting values increase business for Calibrators as most users will see an improvement over stock but then will want more i.e. the real deal.
thats funny... as i was writing my post, i now see you said the exact same!!!
post #8154 of 11481
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Good point but the converse can be true also it may make the set worse in some cases probably rare but I have seen it happen, but no matter the end result it is a work product of the calibrator and it should be up to the calibrator whether the settings are posted imo


no way, ill do whatever I want to with my paid for service. unless a specific clause is stated so.
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no way, ill do whatever I want to with my paid for service. unless a specific clause is stated so.

That's personal preferance obviously, I value the business relationship with my calibrator but that's just me.
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no way, ill do whatever I want to with my paid for service. unless a specific clause is stated so.

Aren't you a calibrator yourself airgas? Or at least possess the requisite tools and skills? I seem to recall somebody on some thread giving you the deference that normally only calibrators get on this site wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Blind Broccoli View Post

Aren't you a calibrator yourself airgas? Or at least possess the requisite tools and skills? I seem to recall somebody on some thread giving you the deference that normally only calibrators get on this site wink.gif

no,not me. just a videophile freak.biggrin.gif
post #8158 of 11481
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

That's personal preferance obviously, I value the business relationship with my calibrator but that's just me.

I respect that. I respect whatever the calibrators wishes are as well as the owners. It's a nice balance that way smile.gif

If permitted, then BRING IT! biggrin.gif

D-Nice has calibration values posted in one of the Panasonic threads that has helped a lot of folks.
Also, it probably helped fill up his calendar a bit wink.gif
post #8159 of 11481
Yes that's a great value he is providing
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Thread Starter 
In the end sometimes these settings will help and sometimes they will not. Every TV made is unique and that is why many want there sets calibrated.
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