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post #8431 of 11459
Value Electronics Flat-Panel Shootout Crowns Samsung F8500 "King of HDTV"

"The pros who ran the 2013 shootout know the capabilities of high-end HDTVs inside out. Interestingly, their collective vote for first place wound up being a tie between the two Panasonic plasmas, the VT60 and ZT60, while the F8500 came in second by the slimmest of margins. The pros seemed more concerned with ultimate picture-quality performance in a controlled environment, while the audience was clearly impressed with the revolutionary brightness achieved by the Samsung."

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1472715/value-electronics-flat-panel-shootout-crowns-samsung-f8500-king-of-hdtv
post #8432 of 11459
This is the Samsung 8500 thread. The point was the VT, ZT and 8500 are not the same. The VT and the ZT are not the same. Maybe the professionals got similar results, but they are constructed differently was the point.

Frankly i wish you could put the ZT's anti-glare on the 8500

Can we get back on course with the 8500, there are already too many hijacked threads with these same units.
post #8433 of 11459
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

and they are kidding about the $800 price difference....really....rolleyes.gif



Amazon has a VERY compelling price offer on the 60 and 65 inch VT( i posted this in the Vt forum as well)

I wonder if Samsung will follow with the F8500?

One can only hope.......
I, too, saw the VT, ZT and f8500 side by side (at Magnolia) and I was most impressed with the 8500. The pic really blew me away! (had to be the brightness)
I am thinking that the best option for a lower price on the 8500 would be to wait until September...when most flat panels experience a price reduction.
post #8434 of 11459
Can we all get along sheesh.....8500 new kuro WRONG Same goes for caling vt or zt one also..Kuro will remain King..And both Sammy and Vt or ZT are beautifull sets one fits Daytime one fits Dark.....When do you watch movies etc...smile.gif
post #8435 of 11459
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Originally Posted by BobinCA1 View Post

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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

and they are kidding about the $800 price difference....really....rolleyes.gif



Amazon has a VERY compelling price offer on the 60 and 65 inch VT( i posted this in the Vt forum as well)

I wonder if Samsung will follow with the F8500?

One can only hope.......
I, too, saw the VT, ZT and f8500 side by side (at Magnolia) and I was most impressed with the 8500. The pic really blew me away! (had to be the brightness)
I am thinking that the best option for a lower price on the 8500 would be to wait until September...when most flat panels experience a price reduction.

I would bet Samsung reacts with a lowered price on the F8500 in the next week of so

They have to understand the market....all things considered( and dont flame me please..lol)...the perception is that the Panasonic plasmas are better units
I say that from a historic and past market price prospective...rather than pulling out spec for spec of 2013 models

Like they say though..perception is reality


Warren
post #8436 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Denniswrly View Post

Can we all get along sheesh.....8500 new kuro WRONG Same goes for caling vt or zt one also..Kuro will remain King..And both Sammy and Vt or ZT are beautifull sets one fits Daytime one fits Dark.....When do you watch movies etc...smile.gif

I watch 'dark' and the 8500 fits just great. We tend to generalize way too much here. This is not a case where only one display can be used in one location and not the other. With the effective glare filter of the ZT, it too could be used effectively, IMO, in moderately lit rooms. Likewise the 8500 looks fabulous in dark rooms playing dark material.

We're splitting hairs on certain aspects of performance here.
post #8437 of 11459
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by oinchats View Post

My wife watches a lot of tv that have static logos in the corner. Is that a concern I should have? Do I need to tell her to use the old tv until there is 100 hours on the panel?
thanks
If it makes you sleep better at night, yes. Otherwise, I do not think you will have an issue. There are many that are concerned about image retention, I do not fit that group as I know IR will go away........
post #8438 of 11459
I would really appreciate it if someone could respond to my questions I posted in post #8423.

I also see white sparkles going off and on when watching live TV This happens when someone is wearing a black coat, etc. I don't see it in other dark color objects. Is this normal or should I be concerned?
post #8439 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post



We're splitting hairs on certain aspects of performance here.

LOL...you know how it goes here

Pages and pages of splitting hairs

I think I mentioned that several hundred posts ago


Warren
post #8440 of 11459
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Originally Posted by abalone View Post

That's funny. In the US we're on 1104. So where in the world is 1107 being released?
indeed,it's very funny

post #8441 of 11459
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Originally Posted by oinchats View Post

I would really appreciate it if someone could respond to my questions I posted in post #8423.

I also see white sparkles going off and on when watching live TV This happens when someone is wearing a black coat, etc. I don't see it in other dark color objects. Is this normal or should I be concerned?

Is this with all content, all channels & all sources? Sometimes this can be a source-related issue having nothing to do with the display. Also, how close are you when you see these sparkles?
post #8442 of 11459
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Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post

indeed,it's very funny


eek.gifeek.gif and did I say eek.gif

I believe you have traveled into the future sir. biggrin.gif
post #8443 of 11459
Oinchat on Post 8423.

1.Cable box remote needs to be programmed for this TV, and the TV for you Cable provider.
2.Don't know I don't use it.
3.Downloads will be slow and intermitinet for everything.
4.Nope
5.Nope
6.That is to control the item listed in question 10 not the TV.
7.Don't know
8.Answered by Chris from Cleveland Plasma
9.Don't you won't like it anyway.
10. See answer 6 above.

Glen
P.S. I answered your sparklie question in email.
post #8444 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

eek.gifeek.gif and did I say eek.gif

I believe you have traveled into the future sir. biggrin.gif

the problem is that this ver. is not available anywhere at Samsung's global sites.
does the usb versions have different numbering than the auto update?maybe wrong numbering that was quickly removed.
post #8445 of 11459
Ken: I posted this on the Official Samsung PNxxF8500 Owners page this morning:

On my Samsung site, there is a new US firmware version 1105.2 listed as follows:

This firmware is for TV Model(s): PDP F8500
The version is 1105.2 (dated 7/11/2013)
This firmware update will improve the following:

- Solves Network Connection issue with Wireless router.

- Solves Brightness Popping issue.

- Improves picture quality.

- Supports more MSO in OnTV feature.

- Enhances Voice Recognition feature.
post #8446 of 11459
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Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post

the problem is that this ver. is not available anywhere at Samsung's global sites.
does the usb versions have different numbering than the auto update?maybe wrong numbering that was quickly removed.
Do you have a EV kit or are you out of the USA ?
I just updated mine today for 1105 I think.
post #8447 of 11459
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Originally Posted by Glenee View Post

Do you have a EV kit or are you out of the USA ?
I just updated mine today for 1105 I think.
no I don't,
doesn't matter where ever you are,if you have a us unit,you will only get the us update regardless of your ip,I have had 5 Samsung units before,2 of them which I still have,they will never auto-update from a non-us location,the hardware & software are totally unique to the us market.
you just ask the European guys if the were able to get a us firmware update?I know some of them were trying with no luck.
not to mention that this number to my knowledge isn't available anywhere.
post #8448 of 11459
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Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post

indeed,it's very funny


I just checked again and my set is currently updating to 1105 over the network connection. You sure you have a standard US version of the TV? Date and location of manufacture is on the sticker on the back. Where did you get the 1107 version and how was the update done?
Edited by abalone - 7/11/13 at 2:31pm
post #8449 of 11459
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Originally Posted by abalone View Post

I just checked again and my set is currently updating to 1105 over the network connection. You sure you have a standard US version of the TV? Date and location of manufacture is on the sticker on the back.
yes,I'm pretty sure,I bought the unit from Amazon,
anyway,could be a wrong numbering only,the set is ok,improved overall PQ,though I think the modes got a little bit dimmer if my eyes are not deceiving me,no harm done.
and to answer your question,no,I'm not a us residents,but still that has nothing to with this,as us units won't accept any auto updates other than us ones regardless of your ip.
post #8450 of 11459
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Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post

yes,I'm pretty sure,I bought the unit from Amazon,
anyway,could be a wrong numbering only,the set is ok,improved overall PQ,though I think the modes got a little bit dimmer if my eyes are not deceiving me,no harm done.
and to answer your question,no,I'm not a us residents,but still that has nothing to with this,as us units won't accept any auto updates other than us ones regardless of your ip.

Still a mystery. If the update was done via a network connection over the internet something caused your set to get a version no one else is getting. I guess some corruption of the number is possible, but it would be very odd if only that one field got corrupted and the error checking of the firmware didn't catch it. Knowing the date and location of manufacture on the sticker might shed some light. But suit yourself. So far I don't see any dimming as a result of the 1105 update.
post #8451 of 11459
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Originally Posted by abalone View Post

Still a mystery. If the update was done via a network connection over the internet something caused your set to get a version no one else is getting. I guess some corruption of the number is possible, but it would be very odd if only that one field got corrupted and the error checking of the firmware didn't catch it. Knowing the date and location of manufacture on the sticker might shed some light. But suit yourself. So far I don't see any dimming as a result of the 1105 update.
if anyone of you remember the es series update that was numbered xxx46,that was quickly removed,this could be the case with this one.
post #8452 of 11459
I just updated to the latest firmware 1105 and was wondering if anyone got the improving picture quality message after the update installed?
post #8453 of 11459
hi guys,this is a print out from my chat with Samsung us


Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Harry'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.

Your Issue ID for this chat is LTK111790364039X

Harry: Hi, thanks for reaching out to Samsung tech support. How can I help you today?
Visitor: Hi
Harry: Hi. How may I assist you today?
Visitor: I used the auto update for my pd64 and got the ver.1107?
Harry: Did you purchase this TV in Saudi Arabia?
Visitor: no,I bought it from the us.
Harry: Provide me with the model number of the unit.
Visitor: it's hard to move the unit as it's 104 pound,it's pn64f8500
Harry: Thank you.
Harry: Yes. The firmware version which the TV updated is absolutely correct.
Visitor: then why the usb version has a different number?
Harry: That number is less than 1105 which is the security update. That need to be updated if the unit has any issues. However, your TV has more advanced version than that.
Visitor: thanks.
post #8454 of 11459
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Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post

hi guys,this is a print out from my chat with Samsung us

Harry: That number is less than 1105 which is the security update. That need to be updated if the unit has any issues. However, your TV has more advanced version than that.
Visitor: thanks.

I don't understand what Harry is saying. Still a mystery why a US TV is getting a 1107 update, but maybe geographic location does have something to do with it.
post #8455 of 11459
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Originally Posted by abalone View Post

I don't understand what Harry is saying. Still a mystery why a US TV is getting a 1107 update, but maybe geographic location does have something to do with it.

he is hinting at 1104,not the 1107
no,geographic location does not have anything to do with it,as the updates are unique to a specific hardware and sofware,as mentioned earlier,you can't update a Euro version with a us firmware,it won't accept it,as simple as that.
post #8456 of 11459
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Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post

he is hinting at 1104,not the 1107
no,geographic location does not have anything to do with it,as the updates are unique to a specific hardware and sofware,as mentioned earlier,you can't update a Euro version with a us firmware,it won't accept it,as simple as that.

Yeah, I know you keep saying that, but how many people have tested a US TV in another country to see what the updates do? Something put 1107 on your set, and there's no indication that's a valid version in the US. The Samsung statement that you got a more advanced version doesn't explain anything. Could be as another poster said it was a very short lived mistake that was quickly corrected. Not sure we'll ever know. Interesting oddity though, so thanks for posting.
post #8457 of 11459
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Originally Posted by abalone View Post

Yeah, I know you keep saying that, but how many people have tested a US TV in another country to see what the updates do? Something put 1107 on your set, and there's no indication that's a valid version in the US. The Samsung statement that you got a more advanced version doesn't explain anything. Could be as another poster said it was a very short lived mistake that was quickly corrected. Not sure we'll ever know. Interesting oddity though, so thanks for posting.
as I said earlier,I my self have had a us units for the last 6-7 years,I can confirm that these units will not accept a firmware update other than the us ones,I'm talking out of personal experience.
post #8458 of 11459
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Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post

as I said earlier,I my self have had a us units for the last 6-7 years,I can confirm that these units will not accept a firmware update other than the us ones,I'm talking out of personal experience.

Great. Then what's your explanation? Perhaps due to your location you accessed a server that's not available from the US, and your set installed a version that hasn't been released here. So you're more advanced. Be happy. smile.gif
post #8459 of 11459
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Originally Posted by abalone View Post

Great. Then what's your explanation? Perhaps due to your location you accessed a server that's not available from the US, and your set installed a version that hasn't been released here. So you're more advanced. Be happy. smile.gif
nothing other than that this update was available for a short time,and Samsung quickly removed that one,it happened before

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Originally Posted by 3dprojector View Post

if anyone of you remember the es series update that was numbered xxx46,that was quickly removed,this could be the case with this one.

maybe it's the same thing with wrong number.
Samsung may give a more reasonable explanation than they did with me.
all I wanted you to know that you can't update a unit designed for the us market with a firmware that was intended for a non-us market.
I'm not trying to say that my unit is more advanced,I'm just like you looking for good explanation.
post #8460 of 11459
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Originally Posted by DaveC56 View Post

Ken: I posted this on the Official Samsung PNxxF8500 Owners page this morning:

On my Samsung site, there is a new US firmware version 1105.2 listed as follows:

This firmware is for TV Model(s): PDP F8500
The version is 1105.2 (dated 7/11/2013)
This firmware update will improve the following:

- Solves Network Connection issue with Wireless router.

- Solves Brightness Popping issue.

- Improves picture quality.

- Supports more MSO in OnTV feature.

- Enhances Voice Recognition feature.

Thanks Dave, I saw that. Unfortunately it seems to be the same list as was posted for previous updates. So I guess we're in the dark as to what this update actually does. confused.gif
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