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post #8791 of 11535
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Originally Posted by altagracia57 View Post

So someway somehow we've managed to lose our Smart Touch Remote. We've torn the house down looking for that tiny little silver thing and its a no go. Does anyone have a part number or know of a way to order a replacement?
Get a Harmony 650. Its a lot better remote than either of the Samsung remotes and will probably cost about the same as a factory replacement.
post #8792 of 11535
Thanks estiff,
I moved from sitting to standing (which is pretty much direct-on with the set) and noticed the screen at the top became darker as I sat. So I'm going to put on the tilt brackets, angle it down just a bit so that it's direct-on when we're sitting - didn't make any difference with my Pioneer, but makes a noticeable difference with this set...
post #8793 of 11535
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Originally Posted by Prawphet View Post

Thank you very much for the politeness. It is appreciated.

Honestly it doesn't matter where I am in the room. Right in front of the tv, love seat to the right of the tv, either side of the couch.

I watched the new breaking bad last night. The buzzing seemed to be a lot louder after a while of the tv being on. Not sure though.

Sorry I just realized that I also have tried all the different preset modes on the tv. It doesn't make a difference between torch mode or movie mode.

well i'm convinced. this isn't the 'normal' plasma buzz. at least it's not what i hear(when i try very hard). hopefully the exchange works out for ya.
post #8794 of 11535
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Originally Posted by RadTech51 View Post

He's correct, I can list reference to both of my Panasonic VT 30's they were loudest during dark scenes as well. cool.gif

i find that so bizarre! all my plasmas get slightly louder when displaying a bright image compared to a dark image. for me, it's been directly related to the power used by the tv.

makes me wonder if you guys are hearing something different than i am(besides the obvious fact that what he's hearing is LOUD, haha)
post #8795 of 11535
Just got my 64" yesterday and mounted on wall. Haven't really had any time to mess with it in detail yet but will soon. Last 3 TVs were Pioneer and two Panasonics so I hope I end up liking the Samsung as much.

I always did break-in slides on those 3 TVs thinking I'd get them calibrated but never did so I'm not going to bother on this one this time. I've been going over the threads for settings but they all seem to be post calibration settings. Is there a user who is recognized as having a nice settings list for a non-calibrated set? I plan on using my Disney WOW disc but would like to play around with what people have or what is recommended and see how that compares to the disc.

The bottom of the TV is supposed to have that open plastic part right? It appears the speakers are in there and that little lip is bent open to let the sound out. I thought we popped the rear frame out of the bezel or something when moving it so please tell me that's normal hehe.

Is there a way to re-name the HDMI inputs that aren't picked based on my TV provider in the setup?

Does the IR extender have to be used and sticking out for me to use my Harmony remote or does the TV have its own IR?

Thanks, as always.
post #8796 of 11535
Also the proud owner of the 64"

The "speaker" gap is normal, you didn't damage it

The IR "extender" is actually a blaster and is used to control other devices such as a cable box or receiver. Point it at those devices if you want to control them with the TV remote - setup required.

As far as calibration and settings go start with any of the values found on this thread (there all pretty close) and adjust to your liking from there.

My basic settings (slightly ever changing) are as follows.

Cell light = 18
Contrast = 94
Brightness = 48
Sharpness = 5
Color = 51
Gama = -1
Most of the other settings at default or turned off.

Don't forget you have to set these for every input you use including the smart hub and 3D viewing.
post #8797 of 11535
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The IR "extender" is actually a blaster and is used to control other devices such as a cable box or receiver. Point it at those devices if you want to control them with the TV remote - setup required.
My samsung remote controls my verizon fios stb without the ir blaster, but I need a direct line of site to the fios box. I'd imagine the added benefit the ir blaster provides is it allows the tv to send the ir control codes to my fios box without the direct line of site requirement of my remote ??
post #8798 of 11535
I plugged the IR device that came with my F8500 into the IR input connection on my Darbee Darblet 5000. The Darblet IR remote controls the Darblet which is out of LOS behind the TV. This Samsung IR device is bi-directional and can be used as either an extender or a blaster, although that is not mentioned in the documentation.
post #8799 of 11535
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Originally Posted by DanF8500 View Post

My Samsung remote controls my verizon fios stb without the ir blaster, but I need a direct line of site to the fios box. I'd imagine the added benefit the ir blaster provides is it allows the tv to send the ir control codes to my fios box without the direct line of site requirement of my remote ??

Your F8500 does not need to use IR to change your FIOS STB/DVR as long as both devices are connected to your LAN. Your FiOS STB/DVR uses the coax connection (MoCA) for access to your LAN, and the other FiOS STBs/DVRs connected to your LAN if you have Multi Room DVR service from FiOS, and the Internet to update its TV program guide.

With the proper coax splitter and a second Actiontec MOCA router, properly configured, you can get Ethernet connections in a room with only coax. My F8500, receiver, game console, and Blu-Ray player all use a FiOS MOCA LAN bridge to connect to the Internet. Complete instructions for creating a FiOS MOCA LAN bridge can be found at http://www.dslreports.com/faq/verizonfios/3.2_MOCA#15984 , which is the official Verizon FiOS forum. Optionally, the MOCA router's wireless can be enabled to provide improved coverage using an AP with a non-overlapping wireless channel.

The Actiontec MOCA routers that I have are MI424-WR Rev I . These are the ones with the red band around the front. This model supports 802.11n wireless and has four 1GB Ethernet LAN connectors. http://www.actiontec.com/products/datasheets/VrznMI424WRrevI_dtsht_Verzn%20brnded.pdf . There are three MI424-WR Rev I in my LAN network. The first was connected to the OTA by Verizon and provides MoCA and also provides wireless connections for laptops and tablets. I added the second configured as a FiOS MoCA LAN bridge for entertainment devices near the TV and the third is connected to one of the first's Ethernet LAN ports to provide my desktops with Ethernet cable connections.

MI424-WR Rev I are available on eBay for less than new ones from Verizon. Be careful if you buy router only because the MI424-WR Rev I need more power than earlier models and must have the correct power adapter to work.
Edited by JRWalker - 8/15/13 at 6:27am
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Is there a way to keep the TV from giving me the warning about my "no set-top box detected...try to turn on..blah blah blah"? This isn't the same message as "no input detected warning". Every time I switch to my PS3 or in between BD/DVD intros/menus/etc. where there is no signal I get the warning. I have a Harmony Universal remote and this warning forces me to grab the small Samsung remote to get rid of the pop up window. Yes I can use the Harmony to get rid of this but I must first select Devices to take control of just TV and then arrow down to OK and click enter. It's a pain and I don't want the warning at all.

I have one HDMI from receiver output to HDMI 1 on the F8500. My only 2 sources, PS3 and Directv go into HDMI inputs of their own on the receiver.
post #8801 of 11535
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Your F8500 does not need to use IR to change your FIOS STB/DVR as long as both devices are connected to your LAN. Your FiOS STB/DVR uses the coax connection (MoCA) for access to your LAN...
Ah, yes, I see that happening. I knew that LAN control feature existed, because I use the ios based "FIOS Mobile" app from time to time, which uses my LAN to control my DVR. I have that same model router you speak of. I hate using my Samsung remote to control my dvr because my remote will freeze up frequently after too many operations(swipes of its touch panel). The only way I have found to fix the frozen remote is to remove its batteries each time.
Edited by DanF8500 - 8/15/13 at 9:22am
post #8802 of 11535
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Originally Posted by WantsNWarrants View Post

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Originally Posted by TODDAVS View Post

Here are the settings they used.
Actually, that's a pretty good calibration except for brightness. You can adjust the brightness (and perhaps the contrast) yourself, if you can burn a DVD, by googling AVCHD-2d.[exe or rar or zip]. There are other versions but AVC is the most universal of them. Here's an FTP link to it.

Using the DVD you create and the documentation, adjust brightness and contrast. Finding the correct chapter to use to find the correct brighness and contrast is a bit confusing\daunting, but the top menu is where you want to be looking...

Please go to page 1 of the Owners thread and read the second post (and perhaps a few more). Edit: for your 51", check pieandchips' post #176 in the Recommended Settings thread. Screen size matters!

Personal preferences: warm1, color 51. Nighttime cell light will vary depending on how much light is in your environment, but setting it at 14 to 17 will probably work. Daytime cell will likely be 19 to 20. Adjust the cell AFTER deciding which of warm2 or warm1 you prefer. PLEASE understand that everything in this paragraph is a PERSONAL preference.

Thanks for sharing. I will try those links this weekend.

What I actually opted to do was go to "standard" picture mode, using its native picture settings and the Advanced settings and picture options from the calibration. The picture is more brilliant and I am happy with the resulting color balance and warmth. As I played with it I tweaked the standard picture settings just a touch down, but only a touch.

When I am back home tomorrow or Saturday i will throw them up here again.
post #8803 of 11535
OKk to change things a little bit ,I am looking into getting the F8500. Doe any one know if this is a new type of panel samsung has made? And I know any panel can have problems but has been many problems that as owners any one knows of? I bought a panny G15 4 yrs ago and that was a new type of panel as time went on the blacks became lighter, so noww the side bars are a dark grey. I am looking at either the 51" or the 60". Thank for any info
post #8804 of 11535
Thread Starter 
I am looking for a spar set of keys as we speak, it sucks...... I loose everything from time to time, then it manically appears at a later date.
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Does anyone know if I can use my f8500 as a monitor for my pc? That would be a lot of real estate lol:)
post #8806 of 11535
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Originally Posted by ShadowDancerXTC View Post

Does anyone know if I can use my f8500 as a monitor for my pc? That would be a lot of real estate lol:)

I didn't see a PC (VGA) input, but if you have a laptop like mine you can plug it in via HDMI.

Plus, this set leaves a bit of IR, so I don't know if you'd want to do it anyway.
post #8807 of 11535
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Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post

I didn't see a PC (VGA) input, but if you have a laptop like mine you can plug it in via HDMI.

Plus, this set leaves a bit of IR, so I don't know if you'd want to do it anyway.

I have a desktop I built about a year ago, killer system and am so wanting to see the graphics card on something the size of my F8500. I ran an HDMI from the pc to the TV but no go. it shows the name of the PC but nothing else other than a few video files, there is not desktop or folders (other than Music, Videos, Photos) so I'm stumped. I am not intending to use it that way often I've got a beautiful Dell U3011, I would just like to run it on there now and then... it's such a massive screen tongue.gif I did a lot of research on this TV before I purchased it and I'm quite confident I don't need to worry about IR, I do not use any screensavers and Samsung beat out two Panny's when left to static image runs over night. From what I read the technology has improved greatly and burn in is not really something we need to worry about (so they say)

Any other ideas muffinmcfluffin would be greatly appreciated as I can not seem to find anything online about getting my pc to work the f8500 as a monitor. Cheers for the suggestion! smile.gif
post #8808 of 11535
I wish we had a chat room here. rolleyes.gif
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Please, elaborate on everything not showing up when running your computer via HDMI. I have to try it for myself to see what you mean, but as long as you set up your computer right (either to extend or duplicate what's on your monitor), you should be set. I've done it with my Sammy LCD and my Sammy plasma of two years ago many times. The resolution isn't perfect, but that's because I have a 1600 x 900 computer, not 1920 x 1080.

You sure it didn't work properly, eh?

Oh, and my TV gets IR almost instantly (I pull up the menu, and "HDMI 1" in the upper right corner gets etched in there if it's on there for over a minute... only obvious on a single colored screen if you're paying stern attention though). No hints of burn-in, but computers are so razor-sharp and contrasting that I'm just thinking it's a bit of a scary thought to use it is all lol.

I'll try the HDMI thing on my TV with my laptop later.
post #8810 of 11535
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Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post

Please, elaborate on everything not showing up when running your computer via HDMI. I have to try it for myself to see what you mean, but as long as you set up your computer right (either to extend or duplicate what's on your monitor), you should be set. I've done it with my Sammy LCD and my Sammy plasma of two years ago many times. The resolution isn't perfect, but that's because I have a 1600 x 900 computer, not 1920 x 1080.

You sure it didn't work properly, eh?

Oh, and my TV gets IR almost instantly (I pull up the menu, and "HDMI 1" in the upper right corner gets etched in there if it's on there for over a minute... only obvious on a single colored screen if you're paying stern attention though). No hints of burn-in, but computers are so razor-sharp and contrasting that I'm just thinking it's a bit of a scary thought to use it is all lol.

I'll try the HDMI thing on my TV with my laptop later.


Ok so here's what I have plugging HDMI from PC to TV... I hit source then choose Network - HEATHERs PC it opens to a screen that says C: HEATHER: in a purple box in left corner with a logo for Windows Media Player. Under that it shows 1 folder for each Music Playlist Pictures Videos, there are some subfolders in the Video folder nothing worth mentioning though. So maybe my brilliance is on pause because I've not a clue why it does not act as a monitor for the pc instead of showing some not even all of what I allowed to share via homegroup, which is a whole other conundrum. confused.gif
Cheers for the help muffinmcfluffin smile.gif
post #8811 of 11535
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Originally Posted by ShadowDancerXTC View Post

Ok so here's what I have plugging HDMI from PC to TV... I hit source then choose Network - HEATHERs PC it opens to a screen that says C: HEATHER: in a purple box in left corner with a logo for Windows Media Player. Under that it shows 1 folder for each Music Playlist Pictures Videos, there are some subfolders in the Video folder nothing worth mentioning though. So maybe my brilliance is on pause because I've not a clue why it does not act as a monitor for the pc instead of showing some not even all of what I allowed to share via homegroup, which is a whole other conundrum. confused.gif
Cheers for the help muffinmcfluffin smile.gif

Sounds to me like you're accessing something via a media server.

When you plug it into HDMI (let's say it goes into HDMI 2), choose your source to that specific input. See if anything pops up there. If not, you have to work from your computer's end to... like I said... duplicate or extend what's on your monitor.
post #8812 of 11535
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Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post

Sounds to me like you're accessing something via a media server.

When you plug it into HDMI (let's say it goes into HDMI 2), choose your source to that specific input. See if anything pops up there. If not, you have to work from your computer's end to... like I said... duplicate or extend what's on your monitor.

You were spot on, I'd have been here forever not doing what I should have known to do.. I checked the display settings and there lie the problem I had not identified the the right monitor. You're a star thank you for helping .. I appreciate it. smile.gif
post #8813 of 11535
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Originally Posted by ShadowDancerXTC View Post

You were spot on, I'd have been here forever not doing what I should have known to do.. I checked the display settings and there lie the problem I had not identified the the right monitor. You're a star thank you for helping .. I appreciate it. smile.gif

No problem.

So it's working now? You can see your screen and everything, like you need/want to?
post #8814 of 11535
I use my f8500 as a HTPC monitor and I do not get image retention. So I would recommend testing it out with your particular set as it may depend on the panel. I noticed IR with NFL network when I first got it but now I no longer see it. It may take some breaking it.
post #8815 of 11535
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Originally Posted by muffinmcfluffin View Post

No problem.

So it's working now? You can see your screen and everything, like you need/want to?

Yeah ... OMG though it's huge. Color is way different than on the Dell U3011 and looks nothing like it does when it's just on cable but I don't care I'll rarely use it. Thanks again for the help smile.gif
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TV being delievered tomorrow biggrin.gif
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Hi guys, I went into BB magnolia last night to view this set. I saw it next to a panasonic vt60 and to my surprise, the vt60 Colors were much more saturated. I only had a short time to see so I didn't mess with the settings too much. The salesman said that the settings were all out of the box and i know that sets were on standard mode. Just wondering if I'm missing something with the f8500 that would make the colors looked washed out in comparison to the vt60. Something def didn't seem right. I'm going back for a much longer look next Saturday, is there any major setting I should adjust or look for to increase the color saturation?? Thanks so much.
post #8818 of 11535
First issue with F8500 12 weeks in, vertical green line, such a disappointment as this was looking very good otherwise.

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Somebody else reported a similar problem last month, though they bought an open box. Samsung should get you fixed up with an in-home repair.
post #8820 of 11535
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Somebody else reported a similar problem last month, though they bought an open box. Samsung should get you fixed up with an in-home repair.

No repair for me, this is going back.
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