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post #151 of 626
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Originally Posted by antivirus View Post

What kind of workaround is this ?

The player doesn't work as it should, so there's really no reason to keep it until Panasonic gets all the issues with the new models fixed (either with a new hardware revision or a software update).

I would return it for a full refund.

Because it WORKS, that's why, FULL output from the 2nd HDMI "sub" connection, though it is odd that you don't get the same from the "main" HDMI connection when video is turned "off" in the settings for the "sub" HDMI port, when using it to deliver "audio only" to the AVR, perhaps it's a hardware limitation. At least this allows us owners of older non 3D compatible AVR's to still play both formats. Work around it perhaps not even a good term, since it's easy enough to simply turn the HDMI "sub" back to it's normal setting, and use that as your input source. I believe it's just the design, though not documented in full, reason I suspect this, is there is a menu setting that in it's default mode, has a rather "large" orange LIGHT that is ON, showing in front display panel when you choose to turn the "video on sub port" to "OFF". While you can disable this rather intrusive light, in the menu, it's rather telling that it's there as a "warning", as to what behavior you can expect. Again, like most manuals this in not documented well, since there is NO mention of the video signal maxing out at 1080i on the main HDMI port when you go to play regular BlueRay disks.

It's up to the buyer if they want to "return" the unit if this is too inconvenient. I am just offering "information", if you have never dealt with Panasonic over the phone, then indeed just don't buy this unit, as I doubt it's something they will ever deal with, as even if they respond, they will most likely tell you exactly what I've reported, it does output the full signals, if anything, they'll just update their manual. As you have already read, the original poster of this issue, spoke to Panasonic, and as usual they were clueless, about their own technology. I've owned Sony decks, they have their own limitations, Samsung has let me down with their decks, and my last Pany BR 60 deck stopped playing BR disks on it's own, but still plays regular DVD's. Hardly played any BR disks at all, only to hear excuses that the blue laser can be "more sensitive", and Pany said "too bad", out of warranty. In my opinion, this is simply a CHEAP deck all around, but offers me what I need in two HDMI output ports, nothing more. As I already own an Oppo 83, I did not want to spend another $500 for the Oppo 3D model. I'll use the 330 for the rare times I'll play with a few 3D disks, and as a backup for my Oppo for regular BR disks. If you have an additional $300, certainly consider the 3D Oppo, they are solid units.

Your welcome.
post #152 of 626
I tried the "normal" option but somehow my sound wouldn't work then. Anyway I bought a new 3D AVR but the problem is still there. If I connect it with 2 HDMI cables it is only 1080i, if I connect it with 1 HDMI cable it works but I have to set HDMI(SUB) to V.off to play 3D movies otherwise the picture is displayed double and keeps dancing. Even with my brand new 3D receiver I cannot use both HDMI ports to enjoy "richer sound" as stated in the Panasonic manual. I own a lot of Panasonic products that I love but this player isn't one of them. Oh and by the way, it freezes so often that I wonder why the thing even came with a remote because you have to unplug the powercord to reset the player. So 3 out of 5 times I have to walk to the player and unplug it just to shut it off because otherwise it stays on forever with the word "bye" in the display. Unfortunately I can't return it. I will give it a couple of months, hopefully a good firmware will solve all problems otherwise I will sell it.
post #153 of 626
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Originally Posted by Rivera View Post

I tried the "normal" option but somehow my sound wouldn't work then. Anyway I bought a new 3D AVR but the problem is still there. If I connect it with 2 HDMI cables it is only 1080i, if I connect it with 1 HDMI cable it works but I have to set HDMI(SUB) to V.off to play 3D movies otherwise the picture is displayed double and keeps dancing. Even with my brand new 3D receiver I cannot use both HDMI ports to enjoy "richer sound" as stated in the Panasonic manual. I own a lot of Panasonic products that I love but this player isn't one of them. Oh and by the way, it freezes so often that I wonder why the thing even came with a remote because you have to unplug the powercord to reset the player. So 3 out of 5 times I have to walk to the player and unplug it just to shut it off because otherwise it stays on forever with the word "bye" in the display. Unfortunately I can't return it. I will give it a couple of months, hopefully a good firmware will solve all problems otherwise I will sell it.


Sorry to hear you can't use the path that is working for me on my gear: Pany 330 BR (from HDMI "sub", ONLY) ----> AVR (my Onkyo 906)
> Pany VT50 Display.

With the setting back to "Normal", I get proper BR playback as well as HD Master Audio, all through the single HDMI connection in this path. For 3D playback, I reset the HDMI "sub" back to "VIDEO OFF", but then choose a different input on the Display for the HDMI "main" cable which goes directly from the BR 330 into the TV, audio in this setup is going to the AVR, as designed. I know you already know these setups, odd that it is not working for you on two displays and AVR's.

OH, and I'll add that indeed the player is crashing a lot, don't remember what menu's I was in or trying to get to, but it happened at different times, hung when accessing "NetFlix", after entering my personal acct. info, didn't happen recently. That's certainly something a firmware update could address. Bought and played Avatar, as soon as it's mounted, I get a message saying the BR deck is NOT recognizing this as a 3D movie, and the movies menu won't allow me to choose "Play in 3D", but manually selecting 3D on the Pany VT50 display, puts the TV in 3D, and then in the BR menu, I can select either "Play All", or "Scenes". This movie has been out for a long time and I'm sure it's flagged correctly on the disk, so getting this 3D read error message is deck related. Looks like they rushed this player out the door too soon. I'm going to stick with it since it's not my main player, and I doubt I'll do much 3D disk buying overall anyways, Pany should stick with displays!
Edited by Mactavish - 5/3/13 at 11:31am
post #154 of 626
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Originally Posted by Rivera View Post

Oh and by the way, it freezes so often that I wonder why the thing even came with a remote because you have to unplug the powercord to reset the player. So 3 out of 5 times I have to walk to the player and unplug it just to shut it off because otherwise it stays on forever with the word "bye" in the display.

I'm having the same issue; it's driving me nuts. When I exit Netflix/Amazon is just hangs, reading 'NET' indefinitely. The only solution is to unplug the blasted thing since it won't even power off. I usually love Panasonic, but this player is a major disappointment so far.

EvilAshLives
post #155 of 626
I had this problem, I couldn't figure out why it was doing it.

I ended up exchanging it and haven't had any issues with the 2nd one.

Knock on wood.
post #156 of 626
I have a new WT50 series Panasonic TV. I was considering using an original PS3 60GB to play BluRay content, including 3D content. Is there any benefit to using the DMP-BDT330 or DMP-BDT500 in place of the PS3 focusing purely on the video since in this case I will be using the Panasonic's built-in speakers? Thanks
post #157 of 626
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Originally Posted by Grayleaf View Post

I have a new WT50 series Panasonic TV. I was considering using an original PS3 60GB to play BluRay content, including 3D content. Is there any benefit to using the DMP-BDT330 or DMP-BDT500 in place of the PS3 focusing purely on the video since in this case I will be using the Panasonic's built-in speakers? Thanks
IMO the PS3 is a slow, noisy, energy hog that requires an expensive IR/Bluetooth converter to use with a regular remote. PQ is identical for BD and a lot worse on the PS3 for DVD (IMO). After using a standalone player for discs, I don't see myself ever going back to PS3. On the other hand, I would never buy a 330 or 500 either. Too expensive and has many features I'll never use (analog audio, dual HDMI, touch remote, etc.).

My 2 cents.
post #158 of 626
I have a ps3, and just prefer a standalone.
post #159 of 626
Wrong thread.
post #160 of 626
Update on my BD89 problems:

- I originally called Panasonic with problem report about 3 weeks ago and was assigned a case number
- I contacted a person in the warranty department and was referred to customer support again. Got a phone call requesting more information
- Got an email from the same person requesting more information
- Got another email from a different person requesting yet more information

Got an email yesterday offering to exchange my problem unit with another one. It wasn't made clear if I was supposed to send mine in and wait without an player until they decide to send a replacement, or if I could get the replacement first. It also wasn't clear if the replacement would be a new unit or used/refurbished. I sent a reply yesterday asking about this and haven't heard back yet. I should contact Best Buy to see what they can do. It's well past their new 15 day return policy but maybe they will work with me.
post #161 of 626
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Originally Posted by Ehoser View Post

Update on my BD89 problems:

- I originally called Panasonic with problem report about 3 weeks ago and was assigned a case number
- I contacted a person in the warranty department and was referred to customer support again. Got a phone call requesting more information
- Got an email from the same person requesting more information
- Got another email from a different person requesting yet more information

Got an email yesterday offering to exchange my problem unit with another one. It wasn't made clear if I was supposed to send mine in and wait without an player until they decide to send a replacement, or if I could get the replacement first. It also wasn't clear if the replacement would be a new unit or used/refurbished. I sent a reply yesterday asking about this and haven't heard back yet. I should contact Best Buy to see what they can do. It's well past their new 15 day return policy but maybe they will work with me.

most likey they will want you to send the player first and then they will send the replacement. that is what I had to do with my exchange a while back.

Jacob
post #162 of 626
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

most likey they will want you to send the player first and then they will send the replacement. that is what I had to do with my exchange a while back.

Jacob

Got an email saying a new firmware version will be released in the next few days to fix the problem.
post #163 of 626
I've had my 230 for two weeks now, and It looks like I am having the same problem as everyone else is. Sometimes while selecting from the main menu, or trying to go back to the main menu, or trying to play the disc from the main menu.... the player just hangs. Says "play" on the front display, but the screen is just black and frozen. I then have to hit the "home" button to get it un-stuck (making me have to restart everything). This made using the Disney WOW blu-ray one of the most frustrating things ever. Hahaha. Is the new "firmware upgrade" supposed to fix this issue???
The OTHER problem I'm having is I finally put in an SD card for storage, but I don't believe it's doing its job. The Disney WOW disc says (at startup) "An update to this disc is available, but your blu-ray player currently does not have any storage" or something like that. I have yet to try any discs with the BD Live BS, but I guess I'll pop one in and see if its gonna tell me I don't have any storage. Do I have to format my SD card to the player somehow? Couldn't find any option to do so. The player IS recognizing the SD card, just only making it available for playback, not storage. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
post #164 of 626
I don't know if the 89 firmware upgrade is the same as the 230. The 89 only take USB flash and I didn't see any way to format it from the machine. I did copy an MKV movie to a flash drive and it played just fine.

Did you do any firmware updates when you first got the 230?

BTW, when I contacted Netflix to try to get an extra copy of Homeland on BD to test they said they did get a bad batch of discs and were waiting for new ones. I am going to hold off on doing an update until I get a BD that doesn't play. Then I can do the update and see if it plays.
post #165 of 626
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Originally Posted by AdamHD View Post

I've had my 230 for two weeks now, and It looks like I am having the same problem as everyone else is. Sometimes while selecting from the main menu, or trying to go back to the main menu, or trying to play the disc from the main menu.... the player just hangs. Says "play" on the front display, but the screen is just black and frozen. I then have to hit the "home" button to get it un-stuck (making me have to restart everything). This made using the Disney WOW blu-ray one of the most frustrating things ever. Hahaha. Is the new "firmware upgrade" supposed to fix this issue???
The OTHER problem I'm having is I finally put in an SD card for storage, but I don't believe it's doing its job. The Disney WOW disc says (at startup) "An update to this disc is available, but your blu-ray player currently does not have any storage" or something like that. I have yet to try any discs with the BD Live BS, but I guess I'll pop one in and see if its gonna tell me I don't have any storage. Do I have to format my SD card to the player somehow? Couldn't find any option to do so. The player IS recognizing the SD card, just only making it available for playback, not storage. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks

When I put an SD card in my BDT500 I formatted it. I don't know if the SD card has to be formatted or not for playing blu ray discs but for BD-Live the manual says to do the format thing. Go to "SD Card Management" for either "BD-Video Data Erase" or "Format SD Card". Maybe, if you haven't already formatted it, that will work for you.

Al
post #166 of 626
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Originally Posted by Angler55 View Post

When I put an SD card in my BDT500 I formatted it. I don't know if the SD card has to be formatted or not for playing blu ray discs but for BD-Live the manual says to do the format thing. Go to "SD Card Management" for either "BD-Video Data Erase" or "Format SD Card". Maybe, if you haven't already formatted it, that will work for you.

Al
Does the blu-ray player itself have a formatting option? Or do I have to "format" on a computer? I am not seeing the option in the blu-ray players menu or in the manual...
post #167 of 626
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Originally Posted by AdamHD View Post

Does the blu-ray player itself have a formatting option? Or do I have to "format" on a computer? I am not seeing the option in the blu-ray players menu or in the manual...

From the Home screen tap "Setup". On the following screen scroll right and tap "SD Card Management". That will take you to the two options for the SD Card.

Those instructions apply to my BDT500 so I hope this will help you out.

Al
post #168 of 626
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Originally Posted by Angler55 View Post

From the Home screen tap "Setup". On the following screen scroll right and tap "SD Card Management". That will take you to the two options for the SD Card.

Those instructions apply to my BDT500 so I hope this will help you out.

Al
Our players unfortunately must have a different menu system, as I cannot find any option for SD card management anywhere. frown.gif
post #169 of 626
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Originally Posted by AdamHD View Post

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Our players unfortunately must have a different menu system, as I cannot find any option for SD card management anywhere. frown.gif

I took a look at your players manual here: http://www.manualowl.com/p/Panasonic/DMPBDT230/Manual/186624

And looked at my 330 manual, and you are correct there is NO internal management for SD cards, so you would have to format them on a computer if the correct format is not compatible. In the 330 manual it says this for SD cards:

SD card:
miniSD Cards, microSD Cards, microSDHC Cards and microSDXC Cards can be used, but must be used with an adaptor card. These are usually supplied with such cards, or otherwise customer provided.
To protect the card’s contents, move the record prevention tab (on the SD card) to “LOCK”.
This unit is compatible with SD Memory Cards that meet SD Card Specifications FAT12 and FAT16 formats, as well as SDHC Memory Cards in FAT32 format and SDXC Memory Cards in exFAT.
If the SD card is used with incompatible computers or devices, recorded contents may be erased due to the card being formatted etc.
Usable memory may be slightly less than the card capacity.
post #170 of 626
If the 230 is like the 220, then there are some titles that will not work with BD Live even if you have an SD card installed for it. I've run across some titles that did not work with BD Live on my panny 220, but my Sony S5100's had no issues.
post #171 of 626
Unfortunately my DMP230 may be getting returned this weekend. I contacted Panasonic customer service and their "fix" for my problem is to reset the blu-ray player to factory settings. Needless to say, this did not do anything (besides make me angry when I had to re-enter all my info for Vudu, Netflix, Panasonic store, Hulu Plus). Anyone have any other suggestions? Should I try to swap it for another Panny 230, or should I grab a Sony S5100?
post #172 of 626
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Originally Posted by AdamHD View Post

Unfortunately my DMP230 may be getting returned this weekend. I contacted Panasonic customer service and their "fix" for my problem is to reset the blu-ray player to factory settings. Needless to say, this did not do anything (besides make me angry when I had to re-enter all my info for Vudu, Netflix, Panasonic store, Hulu Plus). Anyone have any other suggestions? Should I try to swap it for another Panny 230, or should I grab a Sony S5100?

Suggestions like "Reset to factory settings", "Turn off feature XYZ" and such are usually just delaying tactics. I do them. They never fix the problem but at least you can tell Customer Support that you tried.
post #173 of 626
Anyone seen an iOS Remote app for the BDT230 yet?
post #174 of 626
I just tried the new firmware (1.38) on my 89 player and it now plays discs that wouldn't play previously.
post #175 of 626
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Originally Posted by Ehoser View Post

I just tried the new firmware (1.38) on my 89 player and it now plays discs that wouldn't play previously.

that is excellent news.

Jacob
post #176 of 626
My BD80 broke down ... so looking for a new player. Is de 230 the one to get at the moment, or should I go for the 220 or even de Sony 3100/5100? I don't need 3D playback, and I don't need network capability (netflix etc). I'm just looking for the best player in terms of picture quality for bluray (and preferably good pq for dvd upscaling).


Only downside to this player is the lack of coaxial output. My receiver only has one optical input, which I'm using for the xbox360. I was thinking about a optical switcher, but I'd rather have a player with a coaxial output (which the sony players have)
post #177 of 626
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Originally Posted by jacbec View Post

Anyone seen an iOS Remote app for the BDT230 yet?

Don't know about iOS, but its definitely not there yet for Android.. may be will come together for both. Its a shame that even after 2 months of launching the player they havn't released the app mad.gif
post #178 of 626
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Originally Posted by Dcornelissen View Post

My BD80 broke down ... so looking for a new player. Is de 230 the one to get at the moment, or should I go for the 220 or even de Sony 3100/5100? I don't need 3D playback, and I don't need network capability (netflix etc). I'm just looking for the best player in terms of picture quality for bluray (and preferably good pq for dvd upscaling).


Only downside to this player is the lack of coaxial output. My receiver only has one optical input, which I'm using for the xbox360. I was thinking about a optical switcher, but I'd rather have a player with a coaxial output (which the sony players have)

Interesting, I have a BD-60, it STOPPED playing BlueRay disks, any... Still plays DVD's. I contacted Panasonic, even though it was out of the tiny warranty period, since I barely used it, they could care LESS. Claimed there were no reports of the blue laser going bad. Rolled the dice and bought the new Pana 330, since I wanted to play with 3D, it was $185.00, and since I already own an OPPO-83, I did not want to spend another $500.00 for yet another deck. If I did not own that Oppo, I would buy the model they have now that does 3D, and all other formats, they are just built better, with MUCH BETTER customer support. I hope I get more then 1.5 years out of the Pany 330.
post #179 of 626
Haven't seen one for Roomie Remote either.
post #180 of 626
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Originally Posted by jacbec View Post

Haven't seen one for Roomie Remote either.

From what I read before I bought my Pany 330, Panasonic are now only making their latest IOS apps for Android phones ONLY (this is in their own info online), found that very ODD, but not a deal breaker. I use Roomie, maybe a "request" will get the ball rolling, or perhaps with the new DUMB direction Pany is going for their IOS apps, maybe it's just NOT possible?I don't get it............
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