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post #271 of 361
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Originally Posted by SmoggyTwinkles View Post

No problem thanks for looking. Yeah I just think AVS forums is a really great resource for audio/video enthusiasts and each product I own has a place here to discuss, show, troubleshoot etc. Axiom should be no different IMO. Obviously negative views should be discussed as well, but to a certain reasonable extent where it's not overwhelming the point of the thread in the first place.

That center speaker!!!!eek.gif Looks amazing is that a custom build?
Haha! DIdn't realize I had the forum up when I took the photo. Unfortunately the system is unlikely to blow my hair around living in an apartment the past 2 years now, but prior to that I lived with my parents in a house and these in the basement and they can take anything I threw at them at ridiculous volumes on a few occasions just to see what they could do biggrin.gif
Yeah, I don't even know a single person who has invested in modern stand alone speakers actually. I have a brother-in-law who has Bose bookshelves from 30 years ago, a co-worker who has vintage Kenwoods he got at a yardsale.....my dad still has Yamaha's from the late 70's when he went through his audio improvement phase. But everyone I know just listens through their TV, or tiny HTIB speakers etc. I'll probably have these Axioms until I die because they're simply more than adequate for my usage and should be forever really. Speakers should last a lifetime if they sound good to you IMO.


Yes the center is a custom build. I bought v2 M80's to match the rest of my Axioms but when they arrived they had the V3 Drivers in them so I contacted Axiom and they sent me all new v2 drivers. They didn't want the other drivers back so I built a center channel with my own custom crossover and with the rest of the drivers I built 2 - 3way speakers about the size of M22's that I use in my bedroom with a vp100. I had to buy a couple extra drivers to do it all but they were not too expensive.

I am currently building a set of Fat Thor speakers with Sea's drivers. Bit of hobby , idle hands you know.

Richard
post #272 of 361
Well, an update on my new experience with a pair of of brand new Axiom M80 V3.

Size of room : 1600 cubic feet with an 8 foot opening into a dining room/kitchen that's around 1500 cubic feet.
Receiver : Pioneer Elite SC-61
Blu ray : PS3
wiring is all 12 guage monster cable speaker wire
Prime listening position is about 11 feet away

I have the m80's bi-amped for shits and giggle using the feature of the SC-61.



I've had now 3 months to listen to these speakers quite regularly. And more so than usual. About 3 weeks after receiving these speakers, I started going through a seperation/divorce.

At a time where I looked around the empty living room, my furniture gone, my tv gone, my M80's standing there by themselves...they just beckoned me to play them. And comfort me they did.

In times of emotional upheaval and stress, whether it's my guitar or recordings from my favourite artist, I've always used music theraputically.

There have been many days throughout the last 3 months that I have listened to them at VERY loud listening levels, for 12 hours straight.

So first things first. These speaker's build quality is flawless, IMO. They can handle extended use and LOUD playback levels. The cabinet design is incredible. No vibrations or anything like that.

In terms of "overall", I think the closest speaker that I've owned that compares to these were my Paradigm Monitor 90ps. But interestingly enough, even though the 90Ps had a 400 watt powered amplifier for the 3 8" woofers, the M80's bass is better.

I have tested all sorts of music from electronica(Shpongle is a must for people to test the smallest nuances of their speaker. Very incredible engineering), to heavy metal, to classical, to country to hip hop. These speakers can truly fit into the category of a loud party speaker while also having the finesse to be classified as an audiophile's dream. I am hearing my favourite artists in a new and incredibly detailed way I didn't even know was possible. These speakers TRULY bring my music a new life.

Stillborn - Black Label Society is a great metal track to test the "mid" bass slam and low extension of the speakers, while getting to hear it handle the classic electric guitar tone of Zakk Wylde. I have listened to this track thousands of times on quite an array of speakers, but I've never heard it sound so clean and have SO much punch. As a guitar player myself, I find the electric guitar coming out of the m80's is almost EXACTLY like the sound coming out of my electric guitar amplifiers. As this song rips along, I can't help but get giddy and smile. I can hear the entire drum kit, the smallest brush of the hi hat, while being reminded of the visceral punch and feeling that metal like this can produce.

Time - Pink Floyd is another of my all time favourites. There is a lot of incredible music engineering going on in that entire album. This song really has a lot to offer in hearing the way two speakers work together as a single unit. Great stereo effects. I found myself slowly turning it up more and more during the initial barrage of clocks/bells/alarms. These tweeters are amazing. I know there is probably a limit to them, but I'm not willing to turn it up to such a level. lol. After settling in on around -10 on my Pioneer Elite, I restarted the track and layed back in the prime listening position. This song took me for a journey. It brought back "flashbacks" of being 15 years younger and high on LSD. wink.gif I haven't heard Pink Floyd in such a way in SO long. I have been listening to a lot of Floyd since owning these speakers. They do not disappoint.

Katie Melua - I'd love to kill you - I would have never discovered this song if it wasn't for a youtube video of it playing while someone showed off their M80's. This woman's voice soars. The bass is so clean and extends nice and deep. The plucking of the guitar strings truly stands out and sings. The whole package is an incredible treat to listen to on the M80's. I wow people with this track. A true audiophile track in my opinion. At one point she says, "I’d like to put you in trance". With the help of the M80's, you most certainly do Katie. smile.gif

Shpongle - Entire Catalog - Enough can't be said about this artist. I'm not even a real fan of the genre, but the ambient psychedelic nature of it, usually incorporating incredible flute passages as well as other traditional and world music aspects, is something I'm left drooling over. Incredible beats and very "meditation" orientated music in general. It's VERY relaxing music The engineering is flawless. I truly have been taking away to other worlds while listening to this on the M80's.

These speakers can play the rap and hip hop with ease. The bass these speakers can produce has left me astounded. They do so without sounding muddy or boomy. They do so, while still highlighting all the delicate nuances of the highs and all the important mid frequencies as well. These speakers dynamic range is astounding.

With all that being said, these speakers are EXTREMELY revealing. I find I can't even listen to some music I used to enjoy because of imperfections in the recording and/or engineering. It also gives you a new appreciating for high quality source material. I find myself hardly listening to mp3's anymore. These speakers are truly turning me into a "snob" in those regards :P

Now onto home theater.

I don't have as much experience in this regard. And right now my system is quite lackluster for such an application. A few more months and I'll be able to get the rest of the M80 system, but for now I'm using a sound dynamic r-55 bookshelf for a center and (2) paradigm ADP-150 for rears. It's a mixed matched setup I know :/ And worst of all, I'm lacking a subwoofer.

This has left me afraid to REALLY push the speakers to the levels I'd be comfortable with. That being said, I still have experimented with such levels carefully, running m80's full range.

Running blu-rays through my PS3, I am now having a new love for my movies as well. The panning abilities of these speakers is incredible. They can convey SUCH presence in action scenes, while deliciously serving up the tiniest sound effects that I haven't even heard before. And excuse my language, but holy **** can these speakers dig deep. And LOUD!. And they sound refined and controlled while doing so.

I have found speaker placement for the M80's is especially critical when it comes to HT. I have them toed in slightly and find this works best.

I find myself wanting to buy a new blu ray every other day. The way these speakers can bring me right in, is something all my previous speakers couldn't do. The speakers truly disappear in my room. Running in just stereo, the front soundstage is amazingly accurate and detailed, but running in 5.1, truly just shows the limitation of my current center channel and surrounds. The M80's seem to be able to blend with them nicely when MCACC is applied, but the center and rears just aren't up to the task of playing the content at moderate to high levels.

As soon as I get the rest of the system and the two Power Sound Audio XV15's I'm eyeing up, I will report back with more updates on my HT experience. Needless to say, I'm confident and blown away by what the M80's can do in that department.

I don't consider myself an "audiophile", nor do I claim to be extremely tech savvy, but I will say this:

And after re-reading this. One thing becomes clear to me about my feelings on these speakers. They invoke a true memorable and positive emotional response. Something I haven't had a pair of speakers do for a long time. And at the end of the day, that's what we are all striving and searching for. The M80's are hands down my most favourite speaker I have ever owned. They can handle everything I throw at them and they effortlessly can produce some of the most high quality sound I have ever heard. They truly invoke an incredible emotional response within me. Who can ask for more than that?

Highly recommended!
post #273 of 361
It is most excellent that you, along with so many others, are enjoying the Axioms so much. That's what it's all about....

TAM
post #274 of 361
I have a pair of Axiom SQ8 v2's that I never used that I'm going to sell. I had bought them for rear surrounds, but found that I didn't need them because I had another pair as side surrounds and they totally filled the back half of my room up with sound. PM if you might have interest in them. Opened for inspecting but never used. Thanks.
post #275 of 361
Time to restart the thread...
New LFR's and new DSP's. Very interesting.
I wonder about the 880 as a center with diffusers behind it would create a more accurate 3 dimensional sound where its needed (in my room).
post #276 of 361
Very interesting indeed & no doubt that they perform very well in a rather unconventional manner; however, these systems are a little too complex for me.

I kinda like the minimalist approach for my sound...

TAM
post #277 of 361
I'd wanted minimalist as well. Too late for me.
post #278 of 361
Thread Starter 
Where do you see the new speakers?
post #279 of 361
They are not on the website yet, the news came in the monthly news letter.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/archives/October2013
post #280 of 361
Thread Starter 
Interesting, but I never understood the desire for omnidirectional speakers in a home theater setup.
post #281 of 361
I don't think that they are directed towards home theater owner so much as stereo listening. Some of us prefer to listen to stereo with only the front speakers and not with a faux 5.1 . In stereo these speakers are designed to give a move immersive listening experience. As an aside, they will do no harm to your home theater experience.
post #282 of 361
Thread Starter 
Ah, gotcha. Thanks!
post #283 of 361
Has anybody tried to replace stock crossover with custom one? Just noticed that i can buy dirty cheap Dayton Audio crossovers 2.2kHz and 2.7 kHz which will perfectly fit my bookshelf and center Axiom speaker...
Again, there is nothing wrong with the sound and i like my speakers a lot, but i don't feel good that my speakers have lets say very cheap x-over inside them.
post #284 of 361
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Originally Posted by Lerdan View Post

Has anybody tried to replace stock crossover with custom one? Just noticed that i can buy dirty cheap Dayton Audio crossovers 2.2kHz and 2.7 kHz which will perfectly fit my bookshelf and center Axiom speaker...
Again, there is nothing wrong with the sound and i like my speakers a lot, but i don't feel good that my speakers have lets say very cheap x-over inside them.
A dirt cheap Dayton generic crossover is hardly custom. You can probably improve on what's in there, but not with an off the shelf product.
post #285 of 361
Has anybody heard of new tweeter design in QS4? Just got my speakers and the tweeters don't look even close to the ones on the website. Mine are covered with some kind of perforated metal grills.
post #286 of 361
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Originally Posted by Lerdan View Post

Has anybody heard of new tweeter design in QS4? Just got my speakers and the tweeters don't look even close to the ones on the website. Mine are covered with some kind of perforated metal grills.

Post up a pic. I spend a fair amount of time over at the Axiom forum and have not seen it mentioned .

Richard
post #287 of 361
Here you are Richard.



BTW - i don't like them... they look like cheap car tweeters.
post #288 of 361
Intresting...I wonder if its only on the 4's?
FWIW I don't like the new 5 way posts either.
post #289 of 361
I just checked my QS4s from last year. My tweeters are identical to the ones in all of their other speakers. Perhaps this version is just a more robust face plate.

The powered Axiom Wall Mount (supplied) is more than slick that made installation to a wall really easy & secure.

For me, the proof is in the listening - not in in how they look behind the grills.

While testing out my new VP160 CC yesterday with the WOTW BD at -10 Db Level, near the start of the story during the lightning scene in the backyard, I thought that the QS4s were going to launch themselves off the wall.! They really put out when required - almost scary during that scene.

BTW, my new VP160 is a real beast & it adds immeasurably to the the enjoyment of movies & music that is mixed in surround. I'm more that pleased with it...

TAM
post #290 of 361
FWIW I like my 4's better than my 8's for most listening. The 8's being better over all with louder content. To be fair I never once noticed strain from the 4's.
That said I'm hoping they bring out a HP6SQ (High Powered 6" Super Q, my name, thank you, thannnk you) that would be usable with a 80 hz or even 60 hz cross over.
post #291 of 361
Curious, do they have a V3 label?
post #292 of 361
Will be interesting to see if we can elicit a response from someone over at the Axiom forum. Since Axiom makes its own tweeters I wonder what the motivation was to make such a drastic change in appearance. They appear to be better protected from little fingers ,other than that I got nothing. I cant say I am wild about the design ,but I keep my grills on just enjoy the sound. Btw how do they sound, compared to your other Axioms.


Richard
post #293 of 361
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Curious, do they have a V3 label?
Yes
post #294 of 361
From the Axiom forum - tweeter is the same but with a different cover. Cosmetic change only....

TAM
post #295 of 361
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Originally Posted by ex-labdriver View Post

From the Axiom forum - tweeter is the same but with a different cover. Cosmetic change only....

TAM
yeah.... this is the main problem - now i have 3 speakers with one tweeter design and two - with another. doesn't look like a matching set.
post #296 of 361
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Originally Posted by Lerdan View Post

yeah.... this is the main problem - now i have 3 speakers with one tweeter design and two - with another. doesn't look like a matching set.

Whatever
post #297 of 361
If they do the job in your room & sound good to you, best to keep the grills on I guess. To me the QSs look better that way anyway,,,

TAM
post #298 of 361
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Originally Posted by Lerdan View Post

yeah.... this is the main problem - now i have 3 speakers with one tweeter design and two - with another. doesn't look like a matching set.

Do they sound different?
post #299 of 361
Read about them here from the chief himself:

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php/topics/400862/New_Tweeter#Post400862

I really like their appearance & I'd be happy to have them in my cabinets...

TAM
post #300 of 361
M80HP for the win.

I've never experienced 2.0 channel music that wrapped around you, made you want to close your eyes and crazy glued you to the seat.
Funny, I've never noticed the differences (room/ambiance) between recordings on a track before either. You can tell they were recorded at a different time or a different place.
I was shocked by at how much distortion is actually in the recordings themselves, how immersed you can be in a recording.
This is a new beginning for me.
Very nice.
Edited by brwsaw - 2/25/14 at 1:25pm
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