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The Review at a Glance: (max score: 5 )

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Audio/Video total rating:

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90





Studio and Year: Disney - 2012
MPAA Rating: PG-13
Feature running time: 150 minutes
Genre: Drama

Disc Format: BD-50
Encoding: AVC (MPEG-4)
Video Aspect: 2.40:1
Resolution: 1080p/24


Audio Format(s): English DTS-HD 7.1 Master Audio, French/Spanish Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: English SDH, French, Spanish
Starring: Daniel Day-Lewis, Sally Field, Tommy Lee Jones, David Strathairn, Joseph Gordon Levitt, Hal Holbrook, James Spader, Gloria Reuben
Directed by: Steven Spielberg
Music by: John Williams
Written by: Tony Kusher
Region Code: A,B,C

Blu-ray Disc release Date: March 26, 2013







"A house divided against itself cannot stand"


Film Synopsis:



My Take:

Lincoln is inspired by the true-life events that confronted President Abraham Lincoln during his monumental moral and political challenge to amend the United States Constitution to permanently abolish slavery.

Parental Guide:

Lincoln, is a revealing drama that focuses on the 16th President's tumultuous final months in office. In a nation divided by war and the strong winds of change, President Lincoln pursues a course of action designed to end the war, re-unite the country and abolish slavery. With the moral courage and fierce determination to succeed, his choices during this critical moment will change the fate of generations to come.

“Lincoln” is rich and compelling in its description of the historical events surrounding President Lincoln’s quest to end the ferocious bloodshed of the civil war by eliminating the motivation behind it, slavery. The film provides a fly on the wall perspective that closely extols the efforts of the president, his staff and the members of congress that saw the passing of one of the most critical amendments ever to be made to the U.S. Constitution. This is a character driven film that bristles with layered rhetoric, wink and nod interplay and textured drama. In that vein it might seem slow moving but dividends are paid in the unfolding narrative that paints in fine strokes which portray the dilemmas faced by the president, the shared pain between he and Mary (over the loss of their son Willie), the politically driven maneuvering and personal sacrifices that made it possible.

Lincoln is a superbly crafted, dutifully executed and marvelously enacted film with a historically significant effervescence. Melodrama isn’t used to underscore the proceedings but at the same time the context is imbued with a dramatic flair that subtly permeates every aspect. The supporting cast is littered with talented actors all of whom play their respective parts with passion and credibility. The primary players in David Strathairn, Tommy Lee Jones, Sally Field and to a slightly lesser degree James Spader are standouts in their support of Daniel Day-Lewis whose Oscar winning performance is in a word, remarkable. The production is top notch as everything from the make-up/costumes to the set designs to the cinematography is first rate.

Lincoln is an indelible film not only because of its historical significance but because of care and devotion that went into its making. The result is a wonderful and engaging cinematic experience justly deserving of the accolades bestowed upon it.



AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100 / EXCELLENT = 83-91 / GOOD = 74-82 / AVERAGE = 65-73 / BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


Audio: 90

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Video: 90

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Lincoln comes to Blu-ray Disc from Disney featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 36 Mbps and lossless DTS-HD 7.1 Master Audio sound that has an average bitrate 4 Mbps.

This film utilizes a stylized visual design that is meant to create a period specific aesthetic to support its thematic elements. The predominating palette is limited to what appears very nearly to be black and white mixed with a little color which results in a sort of muted sepia. According secondary colors such as brown and blue are muted while grays and whites appear delineated. Looking at films from a “colorless” perspective is something that can take a little getting used. It isn’t an issue for me which allowed me to appreciate this nuanced presentation. Blacks are deep, with appreciable gradations and dynamic highlights that surface when onscreen with mixed light/dark content.

This is a predominantly dark film that contains many sequences shot in low lit environs and natural lighting. While there is some loss of visibility in dark backgrounds contrast and brightness levels aren’t overdriven and work in tandem to preserve detail in dark and light elements onscreen. The applied filtering and cinematography can occasionally have an effect on perceived resolution however images onscreen appear lucid and sharp. Close ups reveal lots of fine detail in the faces, hair and clothing worn by the cast members. Some have expressive faces that reveal every crack, furrowed brow and wrinkle. Long range shots aren’t resolved quite as well but appear dimensionally satisfying. A light veil of grain imparts a film like texture that is never intrusive. This is an excellent high definition presentation that is revealing of the high production elements used in the film.

This is primarily a dialogue driven film however there are elements in the film that require use of the entire system so its ability to clearly render them is essential. Dialogue is reproduced with transparent realism and lucid texture as it is appropriately balanced within the front soundstage. The surround mix utilizes the entire platform to recreate the many acoustic sounds associated with the environments portrayed onscreen. The rear channels contain a mixture of spatial ambience/musical extension as well as directional panning cues that effectively support the front soundstage. This is an understated yet enriching audio presentation that mates perfectly with the source material.


Bonus Features:

  • Disc 1:


  • Feature Film

  • (HD) The journey to Lincoln – 9 minute featurette

  • (HD) A historical tapestry – 4 minute featurette

  • Disc 2:


  • (HD) In the company of character – 10 minute featurette

  • (HD) Crafting the past – 10 minute featurette

  • (HD) Living with Lincoln – 27 minute featurette

  • (HD) In Lincoln’s footsteps – 16 minute featurette

  • Bonus DVD

  • Digital Copy Bonus Disc




Final Thoughts:

Lincoln is a superbly crafted, dutifully executed and marvelously enacted film inspired by the true-life events that confronted President Abraham Lincoln during his monumental moral and political challenge to amend the United States Constitution to permanently abolish slavery. It comes to Blu-ray Disc from Disney featuring excellent high definition video, involving lossless surround sound and a fair supplemental package the looks behind the scenes including insights from the cast and filmmakers. Lincoln is an indelible film experience that comes highly recommended on Blu-ray.





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Ralph Potts
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post #2 of 27
...and the historical revisionism surrounding Lincoln marches on.
post #3 of 27
Great review Ralph. I am not sure I have enough interest in this to rent it though. I do love DD Lewis though. Best actor in the world.
post #4 of 27
Even with the 4 disc version, the extras are very light. I will be buy it though but will not play the double dip game when Disney/Touchstone puts out an ultimate edition in perhaps a couple of years time. Great film and Daniel Day Lewis deserved his Oscar (any other year Joaquin Phoenix would have won, he had an amazing performance in The Master)
post #5 of 27
I'm so disappointed that I didn't get to make this one at the theater. Based on your review Ralph, I'm confidently regarding this one as a blind buy for subject matter, content and presentation as you've revealed. Well done!
post #6 of 27
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Originally Posted by danger dan View Post

...and the historical revisionism surrounding Lincoln marches on.

I'm curious. Apart from the Connecticut voting kerfuffle (which is a classic Tony Kushner move in sacrificing accuracy for drama), what stands out as "historical revisionism" to you? I'm genuinely curious as one of my fields of research is the way popular culture productions like historical feature films influence the public's perception of history (and while I know what I think about the subject, I'm always looking for the perspectives of the viewing audience). No such film can avoid deviations from the historical record, of course. Some deviations are more egregious than others, but when a film hews to the spirit, if not always the letter, of historical truth, it becomes a useful supplement to traditional presentations of history. And even bad history films (The Patriot, with Mel Gibson, comes to mind) can offer excellent starting points for teaching moments. So I look forward to comments on this from others.
post #7 of 27
Ovation - I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't comment on that, but "winners write the history" holds somewhat true for what "we" generally know of Lincoln. PBS showed a documentary called "looking for Lincoln" that I highly recommend to anyone interested in learning more about him.

I don't want to derail the thread anymore though.
post #8 of 27
Great movie. Spielberg made a good come back from crap
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Great movie. Spielberg made a good come back from crap


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post #10 of 27
Mr Potts,

Thanks for the review.

Thanks also for the HEADS-UP!! I didn't even know that this film was available yet. Missed in the theaters. Looking forward to viewing at home and your review helped me to commit to the purchase.

Again, thanks.

Mkard
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Originally Posted by Mkard View Post

Mr Potts,

Thanks for the review.

Thanks also for the HEADS-UP!! I didn't even know that this film was available yet. Missed in the theaters. Looking forward to viewing at home and your review helped me to commit to the purchase.

Again, thanks.

Mkard

Greetings,

You're very welcome Mkard. Enjoy! smile.gif


Regards,
post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by UGAd13 View Post

Ovation - I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't comment on that, but "winners write the history" holds somewhat true for what "we" generally know of Lincoln. PBS showed a documentary called "looking for Lincoln" that I highly recommend to anyone interested in learning more about him.

I don't want to derail the thread anymore though.

I would also recommend "Looking for Lincoln." I took a college course dedicated almost entirely to Lincoln and the Civil War and was lucky enough to be able to visit the Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum in Springfield. After seeing the documentary and visiting the museum, I had high hopes for this film. I was not disappointed. There were obviously some creative/dramatic liberties taken, but Spielberg brilliantly portrayed the spirit of the time.

For those who are really interested in Lincoln, you might want to read "Team of Rivals," the book from which the movie is based.

You can watch "Looking for Lincoln" here: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/lookingforlincoln/video/watch-looking-for-lincoln/290/

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post #13 of 27
Cant wait to watch
post #14 of 27
My wife picked it up for me today. Watching it is on my "tto do" list Thursday.
post #15 of 27
I picked this BD up on Tuesday. It will be the first movie run through my new oppo 103. Tweaking and getting set up, hopefully I can watch tonight. Looking forward to it. I was surprised to see a 3.5 on the LFE, that has me curious.
post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by Reefdvr27 View Post

I picked this BD up on Tuesday. It will be the first movie run through my new oppo 103. Tweaking and getting set up, hopefully I can watch tonight. Looking forward to it. I was surprised to see a 3.5 on the LFE, that has me curious.

It's a rather dialogue heavy film--not much opportunity to work out the sub. The other Lincoln movie (the one with the vampires) would likely give your sub a workout (can't say for sure as I've not seen it--don't know if I can bring myself to watch such a thing. YMMV) biggrin.gif
post #17 of 27

I thought the movie was a bit too long - though I usually think that of most movies that are 2.5 hrs long.  It certainly is dialogue heavy, but well made and acted.  However, to me, the presence of DD Lewis saves the movie.  His performance is what holds it together and without it the movie would be mediocre at best.  As for historical accuracy - the Connecticut voting was the obvious one along with the order of vote as it wouldn't have been done that way in reality.  Also, there are those who consider themselves Lincoln experts who will tell you that Lincoln did not have near the involvement (especially as the political genius depicted) in getting the 13th amendment passed as in the movie.  In fact, according to them, he took a very hands-off approach.  I can live with the drama changes, but the factual error of Connecticut's vote is the stand out inaccuracy.  I read somewhere that the screenwriter defends this by saying it was an attempt to further dramatize the narrow vote to pass the amendment.  Why he needed to change factual history to do this is up for debate of course.  Overall, I thought the movie was good from a technical 'movie makers' standpoint, but on its own was less than the hype delivered in many reviews.

post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by Ovation View Post

It's a rather dialogue heavy film--not much opportunity to work out the sub. I've not seen it--don't know if I can bring myself to watch such a thing. YMMV) biggrin.gif

I enjoyed it - then again, I enjoy fluff like that! biggrin.gif
post #19 of 27
I thought this was a great movie and the acting alone is what really made it stand out.

Especially Daniel Day Lewis!

Everything else about it was well done though I will say.

I only wish that it would not have focused so much on such a small period of time. Basically only a 1 month stretch for about 90% of the movie, and then I guess it was the following 3 months over the last 10% of the movie.

I would really liked to have seen a scene with Lincoln reading the Gettysburg Address!

That's just such a great speech.
post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by Ovation View Post

It's a rather dialogue heavy film--not much opportunity to work out the sub. The other Lincoln movie (the one with the vampires) would likely give your sub a workout (can't say for sure as I've not seen it--don't know if I can bring myself to watch such a thing. YMMV) biggrin.gif
Yeah, not much bass frown.gif I had just noticed that Ralph listed a 3.5 for LFE.

We watched last night and it was very long. A little hard to follow sometimes. Great acting from Daniel Day Lewis and Tommy Lee Jones, but we already knew this. I was even surprised to see James Spader in there. I thought it was a very good movie, I nodded off a few times but managed to watch the whole thing. This movie reminded me of the HBO mini series John Adams which I was a big fan of. I loved the series and would love to see it again and certainly a better movie IMO. I actually went to Williamsburg Virginia after the series and visited all filming locations. I even met allot of the cast extras and they were happy to share what scenes they were in and told me a bit about the filming.
post #21 of 27
Im keeping this one for the weekend. I'm looking forward to it.
post #22 of 27
Greetings Ralph!

Spot on review ! This was and is movie making at its best , and was in the right hands with Lewis and Spielberg and a superb supporting cast . The John Williams score provided the bones for the movie anchoring it with deep emotion, I'm perplexed as to why no awards for his fantastic work. This is a must own!

thanks wink.gif
post #23 of 27
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Greetings Ralph!

Spot on review ! This was and is movie making at its best , and was in the right hands with Lewis and Spielberg and a superb supporting cast . The John Williams score provided the bones for the movie anchoring it with deep emotion, I'm perplexed as to why no awards for his fantastic work. This is a must own!

thanks wink.gif

Greetings,

Glad to hear you enjoyed Lincoln audiofan1. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. smile.gif


Regards,
post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Greetings Ralph!

Spot on review ! This was and is movie making at its best , and was in the right hands with Lewis and Spielberg and a superb supporting cast . The John Williams score provided the bones for the movie anchoring it with deep emotion, I'm perplexed as to why no awards for his fantastic work. This is a must own!

thanks wink.gif

Good to read Im hoping to watch mine tonight.
post #25 of 27
I finished watching this film, I thought it was quiet good. Daniel Day Lewis does an outstanding job as usual and I thought Tommy Lee Jones as Thaddeus Stevens was good too. Your video part was spot on Ralph as well as with the Audio.
post #26 of 27
Looking forward to this!
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