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post #1 of 96
Thread Starter 
For several days now I have experienced extreme latency and slowness navigating and posting at AVS. I'm not having such issues at any other sites so I assume the problem is with AVS. Right now I have to compose posts in WordPad and then paste them into the site because it is virtually impossible to input posts directly. Please tell me the Site Operators are aware of the problem and are seeking a fix, or otherwise explain why I am having such problems. Thanks.
post #2 of 96
Hi,

I'm not seeing any slowness in IE, FF, or Chrome and there are no similar reports this week. You might try a different machine to rule it out.

Thanks
post #3 of 96
Thread Starter 
When I just now tried to refresh the page I got a windows message saying "Errors on this page may cause it to not work properly" or something like that. Details shown below. Any idea what the problem is?





Message: Permission denied
Line: 9
Char: 64
Code: 0
URI: http://ads.saymedia.com/ai017c34b791df970b017ee65b04b7970d.js?ord=0.6274860063647365;liu=true&rid=514b228d72ae747d77375ad90a0200d5
post #4 of 96
Are you getting that with multiple browsers?
post #5 of 96
Thread Starter 
So I am replying now from another computer that uses Windows 7 and IE9, and there are no issues. The computer I normally use still runs XP and IE8, but again AVS is the only place I have any problems. I don't think XP will support IE9 (let me know if I am wrong) so I will try re-installing IE8 and see if that helps.

Thanks.
post #6 of 96
I would recommend not using ANY version of IE. smile.gif

It's been a long time since I've seen XP. No idea what limitations it has. Even Microsoft will stop supporting it a year from now.
post #7 of 96

I've had editing problems on AVS with IE9 and IE10 that I end up having to use Chrome or FF for. I've stuck with Chrome lately.

post #8 of 96
Im on IE6 and i havent really ever saw any slow down here,its always been about the same.......

Im just glad Mike didnt put VB4+ here (And i have PMed him and thanked him)
post #9 of 96
Thread Starter 
I reinstalled a fresh version of IE8 and it seems to make no difference. I use good antivirus and I'm pretty sure I don't have any viruses. I also ran Malwarebytes and it came up good. It is confirmed that XP will not support IE9 or later. IE8 still works just fine for every other site I visit, including other forums, and I was fine at AVS until a couple of weeks ago, so what has changed? Did AVS change anything that might cause IE8 users a problem? Oh well, I guess I will just take a hiatus from AVS until I move on to Windows 7, probably in a year.
post #10 of 96
Nothing new here that would cause it or we'd have dozens, if not hundreds of posts like this in the last week or two.
post #11 of 96
I notice occasional latency issues, just put it down to traffic congestion at peak times. Never been a big deal - I'm on Firefox.
post #12 of 96
Anyone having slow downs might try DISABLING JAVASCRIPT and see if its better for you..... I have them disabled AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE,that might be one reason i dont see slow downs here... (Even when we were on VBB i had them disabled and it loaded QUITE FAST)
post #13 of 96
ok.. i am at a point where i feel like it's time to voice my experience. it get REALLY slow after you refresh the pages a couple times. and i mean slow to a point that Chrome will tell you this page is not responding would you like to continue waiting or kill the page.

my suspicion leads me to believe it's the multiple ads on the page that causes it. because if you quit the browser entirely and fire it back up it'll be fast, until you post a few threads, do a few responses, and visit your subscription pages a couple times and refresh it a couple times, that's when things start to bog down REAL bad. if i leave the browser open, by the end of the day, i'll get chrome telling me again the page is not responding when i click the refresh button, or click on my subscription page. this does NOT however happen with any other sites that i frequently visit. so you might say it's the cache, well. if it is.. one begs the question, what exactly is this site doing to the cache that boggs down the browser so much that'll require a complete browser restart every so frequent.

ideas?

and this is from multiple computers from multiple locations (home and work). i am in California btw.
post #14 of 96
ok... it's definitely the ads loading that's bogging down the site. i can clearly see that the site itself is loaded, but the page just hangs until the ads are fully loaded.

is this something that the admin can optimize? like allow the page to be fully inter-actable regardless ads completes the load.
post #15 of 96
Is this something new or have you been seeing this all along?

I know they've been working on tweaking the ads for the last few days so the more details you can provide, the better.

Thanks
post #16 of 96
this is something new-ish that started heppening a few weeks ago.

here're a couple snap shots i took.

note that for the first picture, there was an ad that was waiting to be loaded above the "SPONSORED" ad. and after that ad was loaded, the page became usable. but very often it never finish loading and the page just hangs.



post #17 of 96
Thread Starter 
Well it appears I am not the only one having issues after all. FYI, I have removed Java from my browser, so that is not the problem. I have suspected ads as the culprit all along, but I have never seen a well-administered site, which the AVS has always been, to have ad issues to the point it froze the page-loading, so I gave the site admins the benefit of the doubt.
post #18 of 96
I'm told the techs spent the last 24 hours trying to replicate this using IE, Chrome, Firefox & Safari without any success. That, combined with very few reports against the millions of unique visitors we get each month makes me thin it's extremely isolated. confused.gif
post #19 of 96
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Lang View Post

I'm told the techs spent the last 24 hours trying to replicate this using IE, Chrome, Firefox & Safari without any success. That, combined with very few reports against the millions of unique visitors we get each month makes me thin it's extremely isolated. confused.gif

have you tried to leave the browser open for at least a day? but usually it starts to act up after a few hours.

also i noticed it has a tendency to act up when you're refreshing the profile page by clicking on your user name, which takes you to your profile page showing all the post you participated recently. on the daily basis i frequently click on my user name at the top right to refresh the profile page to check on new posts. maybe you should give that a try.
post #20 of 96
and what do you know, just right after i posted this response and clicked on my user name to check the posts, boom... it's stuck for a good 25 second waiting for that damn ad to load above the "sponsored" ad.
post #21 of 96
My browser is typically up from 7-8am till after midnight. I can't replicate it either.
post #22 of 96
well i guess we're crap outta luck, life goes on then. thanks anyway.
post #23 of 96

Chrome keeps a humongous amount of temp files (cache) that might be bogging you down? Have you deleted your cache to see if that will help?

 

I use CCleaner to regularly delete ALL temp files from time to time, esp. after using Chrome for many days. (It's also good for overwriting free space and other neat things.)

post #24 of 96
Quote:
Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Chrome keeps a humongous amount of temp files (cache) that might be bogging you down? Have you deleted your cache to see if that will help?

I use CCleaner to regularly delete ALL temp files from time to time, esp. after using Chrome for many days. (It's also good for overwriting free space and other neat things.)

yeah but it doesn't explain the fact that it becomes good after you restart the browser. and also doesn't explain the fact that it doesn't do this with every other sites. i've tried clearing the cache couple times in the past couple weeks, and problem still occurs. it defiintely has something to do with the ads.
post #25 of 96
And why are only 2 people reporting it out of 3-4 million visitors a month?
It seems to be limited to something unique about you guys.
post #26 of 96
maybe because we're die hard avs forum members? i don't know, i've only recently started to visit the forum more frequently than i would before. had it not for the recent home theater upgrade, this slowness would not bother me, and i wouldn't have reported it, cause i wouldn't have cared about it. i am sure if this was a site like CNN where people around the world get daily news on, you'll probably get more inquiries.

like i said... this is not CNN, ABC, or ESPN, if you can't pin point the problem and can't fix it then so be it, i don't need it that bad. thanks for the effort. but still doesn't change the fact that there is a problem somewhere on the remote side, whether ad server or back end.
post #27 of 96
Have you tried to disable scripts and see if the site is faster for you???
post #28 of 96
Just loaded this in IE8 (on XP, here at work) and it gave me an error right away. I dismissed that (asked me to debug, etc). and I'm posting this now. So far no terrible slowness but I had zero issues loading anything in both Chrome and Firefox.

I'd tend to agree that IE isn't the best choice. While it may work great for other sites you frequent, it's a definite possibility that the code for this site doesn't properly handle all versions of all browsers (hence why it works on your other test machine with Win7, IE9, etc).

Not to start any browser war posts, I'm just pointing out that code needs to have a lot of extra bits put in to support various versions of various browsers. That extra code takes time to implement, test, support, etc. So some times it just doesn't get kept (meaning IE8 may no longer be fully supported, etc).

I don't know these things for sure, I'm just offering them as plausible reasons. I may have missed it, but I don't think I saw whether you had a chance to try the site in other browsers. Have you yet or no? I'd be curious to know if you had the same issues in other browsers.
post #29 of 96
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsmith901 View Post

... The computer I normally use still runs XP and IE8, but again AVS is the only place I have any problems...

 

 

I can't tell if the forum is/would slow me down if I let the ads through. 

 

I held on to Windows For Workgroups 3.11 right up to Aug of 2006.    Real tough to browse the Web with that and Navigator. 

 

I now have Win7 with IE8 and 8Gigs of memory.   I do block ads for general browsing, as in recent years, it can get choked on smooth browsing.  

 

I usually 'End Task' with my browser to flush the built-up memory usage reaches 6GB or more.  If I don't, and it climbs to 7GB and beyond, browsing and other things running can get messy.

 

Here's what I have now as I compose this message:   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by CleCakYngMfd - 3/27/13 at 10:25am
post #30 of 96
back when i used to code for websites i never asked my clients to use a different browser to get around the problem. if a bug was reported, the right thing to do was for me to pin point the cause if i could, and if it was browser related, i had to code a ton of extras to make it work for that browser only. my gut feeling is some of the coding on the site is not quite efficient. it's one thing to code a site with bunch of js, and loaded with ads. but it's another to optimize the site to be able to run those fancy high power ads and multiple js, jQuery and still able to run on a single core with less than half of CPU utilization. no i am not running on a single core, far from it, but based on past experience, i just have a feeling it has something to do with code optimization vs ads. maybe some of those high power ads are injecting tons of temp files that gets piled up in the cache that requires restart, i don't know. but there has to be a way for the developer to get around that by allowing the site to fully function without waiting for the queued ads response. but maybe i am just the less than 3% out there who even bothered to report the issue. i am sure AVS forum will go on just fine.
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