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post #211 of 361
I thought that 3Penny Chorus and Orchestra got a raw deal from the judges. The excuse that the surprise was over and "we've already seen it" is lame. The same would apply to the guy last year with dreadlocks that sang Sinatra or the guy this year that sang soprano opera. The judges just don't like orchestra and chorus. It's that simple. The whole idea behind 3Penny is not to surprise, but to draw a new audience to a traditional form of music. There are many who love orchestra and chorus. The music has survived centuries. Their talent level was fantastic, but they have no chance because this particular panel of judges sat through too many boring recitals in the High School auditorium.
post #212 of 361
3 Penny and Mitsi Dancing are similar in that they are technically impressive but not exciting enough. In a weaker night, both could have gone through but it's luck of the draw.
post #213 of 361
Wow! We now have two Kevin Skinners in the semi finals. Aerial Ice really deserved a spot.
post #214 of 361
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Next week each judge gets to bring back an act.
They selected sixty quarter-finalists this year, so next week we'll see the last twelve of them.  The week after, then, each judge will get to bring back three acts.  The four winners from each of the five quarter-finals and from the wildcard round will then be the twenty-four semifinalists.  Seems there are no YouTube auditions this season.

Again, no strong opinions about the acts.  My notes are upstairs, so maybe I'll post later.

And, yes, my usual topic: even Stern mispronounced "Kenichi" last night (as we heard Cannon do in a clip from last week).  Mandel mispronounced "forte" both of the times he used it: not for Forte the group, but for the word meaning "strong point," where the E is properly silent altogether.  You'd think a Canadian would have had some exposure to French but he not only sounded the silent E, he stressed it.

Dictionary pronunciation note:

"In the sense of a person's strong suit ( He draws well, but sculpture is his real forte ), the older and historical pronunciation of forte is the one-syllable [fawrt] Show IPA or [fohrt] pronounced as the English word fort. The word is derived from the French word fort, meaning “strong.” A two-syllable pronunciation [fawr-tey] is increasingly heard, especially from younger educated speakers, perhaps owing to confusion with the musical term forte, pronounced in English as [fawr-tey] and in Italian as [fawr-te]. Both the one- and two-syllable pronunciations of forte are now considered standard."
post #215 of 361
3 out of 4. I had Robotics over Jimmy Rose but knew Jimmy would get the “American” vote.

Little Chloe Channel is quite the entertainer. I wouldn’t be surprised to see her brought back.

This is really a weak year. A year that I believe will crown another singer at the end.

As a whole, S5 was my favorite. Jackie Evancho, Fighting Gravity, Prince Poppycock, and Michael Grimm.

As I watched Tuesdays show and not really remembering several acts, it occurred to me that the acts we get to see very little of during the season, those 15-second clips, are the acts that will automatically get passed through. Something to remember for next year.

Season finale – September 18th.
post #216 of 361
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"Both the one- and two-syllable pronunciations of forte are now considered standard."
Not when you stress the second syllable.  Then it's not Italian, not French, not English, just ignorant.

But that's the word; the group's name and Mr. Ebina's first name should be rendered as the respective contestant renders it.

Anyhow, so we had another judicial tie broken by the popular vote; that's three out of four.  Coincidentally -- I hope only coincidentally -- the judges voted by their religions and their genders.
post #217 of 361
I am not invested in this show fully (watching each time its on) However, I am entertained by it and watch when I can. What kills me, is that this show seems to go on forever? Are they showing repeats or do they just never vote anyone off or are there THAT many contestants to go through?

I am floored because and did I hear right, that the FINAL show is sometime in October!?
post #218 of 361
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I am floored because and did I hear right, that the FINAL show is sometime in October!?

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Season finale – September 18th.

Reading is fundamental. wink.gifbiggrin.gif
post #219 of 361
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I thought that 3Penny Chorus and Orchestra got a raw deal from the judges. The excuse that the surprise was over and "we've already seen it" is lame. The same would apply to the guy last year with dreadlocks that sang Sinatra or the guy this year that sang soprano opera. The judges just don't like orchestra and chorus. It's that simple. The whole idea behind 3Penny is not to surprise, but to draw a new audience to a traditional form of music. There are many who love orchestra and chorus. The music has survived centuries. Their talent level was fantastic, but they have no chance because this particular panel of judges sat through too many boring recitals in the High School auditorium.

 

Amen to that!

 

I spent the rest of the night viewing acts "I've already seen before"... different song, trick, joke, etc. but basically a new episode of the same act!

post #220 of 361
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David & Dania ("Quick Change") in Season 1 did the same sequence of tricks at each level, varying only the actual costumes, and still made it to the top ten.
post #221 of 361
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I thought that 3Penny Chorus and Orchestra got a raw deal from the judges. The excuse that the surprise was over and "we've already seen it" is lame.

It makes you wonder why that same logic doesn’t apply to the American Military Spouses Choir. I think it's rather obvious why it doesn't apply. I think it’s a comment that if it could be taken back or rephrased, would be.

I liked the song that 3Penny performed. I thought they sounded great. However, doesn’t just about any choir you’ve ever heard sound good? Until Olate Dogs won, every winner has been a solo act. I think AGT is more about the individual or smaller acts that you can identify with than the acts with 20, 30, or 40 participants.
post #222 of 361
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Until Olate Dogs won, every winner has been a solo act.
If you worked for NBC, you'd think that Terry Fator is an ensemble.
post #223 of 361
At least two good acts came forward at the end of tonight's show.

- Catapult and John Wing should go through.
- All three signers were unimpressive.
- Sam Johnson's dare devil 80 ft above ground act had me screaming and he should be on the bubble.
- D'Angela and Amanda surprised me as I usually don't like kids act but their performance was sexy, sensuous and sublime.
- Ruby the kids dancer crossed the line from being cute to being obnoxious.

I think after seeing all the acts, the winner would be between Catapult, Forte and Brenda James this year.
post #224 of 361
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Was there some mention last night that next week is the first semifinal?  If so, then there will be no judges’ reprieves and no YouTube auditions this year, and there will be only twenty seminifinalists.

Catapult Entertainment had it all over Silhouettes from Season 6, but for me, shadow acts and lightshow acts are played out.  (However, despite their triply cutesy-poo name, sensEtion last week deserve some credit for pulling off a lightshow act with only three performers.)

D'Angelo & Amanda's dancing, yes, was more impressive than Ruby & Jonas's, as it should be with their age advantage, and they had the good sense not to litter the stage with background dancers.  There was too much interview footage used about the sibling rivalry aspect, in which Ruby came off second best.

Sam Johnson left me cold; you know there's some safety harness trick or something.

2Unique shouldn't have had all the background performers.  They were better unaccompanied (except by the records).

John Wing ... well, his comedy certainly has changed from the time I saw him on TV in the 1980s.

Duo Resonance did what I said KriStef Brothers should have: Nina supported Yury, and that came off just as well as when Rebecca lifted Donovan last season.  Kristofer, though, will never lift Stefan.

Sprice .. they made too much of his calmness.  I think his layouts were more interesting than Tim "Kinetic King" Hunt's in season 6 (and for me, it helps that he doesn't use a self-aggrandizing name for his act), but with NBC's camera work it's hard to tell.

Sabrina Mykenzie Gordon blew it.  She got this far as a song belter, but last night she gave a subdued vocal overwhelmed by the instruments.  I kept waiting for the arrangement to change and let her pour out her lung power at some point in the song, but the whole ninety seconds passed, and nothing.

So we'll see what happens tonight.  I've a feeling that exactly one Castro will get through to the semifinals, and then not to the finals, repeating the Untouchables’ progress last season.  (If I remember right, Miami All-Stars did not get to the semifinals in Season 6.)  If neither of them wins the million, what will their parents think up for next season?
post #225 of 361
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So we'll see what happens tonight.  I've a feeling that exactly one Castro will get through to the semifinals, and then not to the finals, repeating the Untouchables’ progress last season.  (If I remember right, Miami All-Stars did not get to the semifinals in Season 6.)  If neither of them wins the million, what will their parents think up for next season?

D'Angelo should be the one going through over Ruby whose demeaner rubbed a lot of people the wrong way judging by FB postings. But he'll still fall short of winning it all. I think AGT producer should tell the Castro family not bother entering the competition again with all these different parings.
post #226 of 361
4 for 4.

D'Angelo & Amanda are way beyond their years. These kids are amazing.

Once again, Tom Cotter was able to show he was Skinnered last season.

WTF was MelB thinking? Booty? She did the Howie vote. This always blows my mind. But then I remember; it’s AGT. That is what makes it different, so you have to accept these decisions. How much of it is production driven? IMO, 100%. It is what it is.
Edited by Aliens - 8/22/13 at 8:59am
post #227 of 361
Oh my ears, my ears B double O T Whyyyyyyy! one more time all thanks to MelB. Yes, what difference does it make, it's not like anyone picked by MelB is gonna going through anyway. I hope Stern bring back American Hitmen. And Howie, I hope I'm wrong but my guess is the death metal girl.
post #228 of 361
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How much of it is production driven? IMO, 100%. It is what it is.
Yeah, it's frustrating but I'm pretty sure you're right.
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Yes, what difference does it make, it's not like anyone picked by MelB is gonna going through anyway.
To me, that's not the point. Part of it is the integrity of the show (yeah I know, that's to much to expect). But the other part is some of the acts that had talent and just fell short deserve the publicity which could help them in their careers. The booty guys are a joke, a bad one. They admittedly have no further ambitions.
post #229 of 361

Whatever integrity the show ever aspired to, it was obliterated when Mel B voted to bring those guys back.  Mandel often votes for questionable acts just out of novelty, which is a waste given some of the others left behind.  But, at this point, bringing back the Booty act borders on shameful when they proclaim they have the tightest competition ever of truly worthy talent. 
 

post #230 of 361
Heidi brought back the Duo on the spot out of compassion and then Mel B brought back BOOTY impromptu. Both didn't go through the process of analyzing all the elimated acts and picking the best one they see fit. How can anyone respect the opinions from these two individuals on the show?
Edited by CalgaryJames - 8/23/13 at 8:48am
post #231 of 361
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The worst part of Brown's bringing back Tone the Chiefrocca is that now Mandel will find some other bad act to waste his wildcard on, and we'll have two wasted wildcards and two wasted slots in the semifinals.  Klum's choice was knee-jerk but at least it was supportable.  Stern, we hope, will put some deliberation into his decision.

I guess we have a tradition of impulsive wildcard selections from European female judges: didn't Sharon Osbourne give one to the loser of the judges’ vote in the last quarterfinal in at least two seasons?  Of course, that was when each judge had four wildcards to hand out, so she still could cogitate about her other three.
post #232 of 361
When the judges had to pick the fourth spot between Angela Hoover and Tone The Cheifrocca, MelB picked Angela. Saying to TTC, “I really like you guys, but how far can you actually take that song?”

As I posted before, I don’t think the judges make these decisions, I think the producers do.
post #233 of 361
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When the judges had to pick the fourth spot between Angela Hoover and Tone The Cheifrocca, MelB picked Angela. Saying to TTC, “I really like you guys, but how far can you actually take that song?”

As I posted before, I don’t think the judges make these decisions, I think the producers do.
Agreed, all night Cannon had been promoting Wild Card picks and yet both seemed impromptu. They were both planned. They were going to give Duo a pass and the producers wanted whatever ratings bump Booty buddies offer. It's not about making a better show, it's about ratings.
post #234 of 361
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Agreed, all night Cannon had been promoting Wild Card picks and yet both seemed impromptu. They were both planned. They were going to give Duo a pass ...
... which means that it also had to be preplanned for the judges to pick John Wing, at least as of when the votes were counted and it was known who were fourth and fifth, so that Klum's wildcard could be awarded to Duo Resonance.  Otherwise, comedian-hater Klum would have had to be instructed to give her wildcard to Wing if Duo Resonance won the judges’ poll.  (Of course, the Canadian comic on the panel voted for the Canadian comic.)

"Wing is a Chinese name.  It means the arm of a bird." -- John Wing, ca. 1985
post #235 of 361
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... which means that it also had to be preplanned for the judges to pick John Wing, at least as of when the votes were counted and it was known who were fourth and fifth, so that Klum's wildcard could be awarded to Duo Resonance.  Otherwise, comedian-hater Klum would have had to be instructed to give her wildcard to Wing if Duo Resonance won the judges’ poll.  (Of course, the Canadian comic on the panel voted for the Canadian comic.)

It didn’t make any difference who they picked. If they had selected Duo Resonance, then it would have been Howie who would have picked John Wing as his selection, not Heidi. This is like a magic act: nothing but smoke and mirrors. Rarely on live shows does anything go unscripted. The judges may make it look spontaneous; it is anything but. Did anyone notice how quickly Nick revealed the winners this week compared to the super long pauses he usually takes? They had to speed that along in order to have MelB and Heidi make their selections.
post #236 of 361
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It didn’t make any difference who they picked. If they had selected Duo Resonance, then it would have been Howie who would have picked John Wing as his selection, not Heidi.
Yes, good point.
post #237 of 361
The 1st semi was a dud. Even the best two acts fell flat, Forte and Catapult. Catapult's problem was they told the story in portrait instead of landscape format of their take on the Moby Dick story.

The other two signers, Cami and Dave were unimpressive. Tenor Jonathan Allen had a good showing but I think the Les Mis song highlighted the limitation of his range.

Angela Hoover was effective in the last half of her act but her act felt longer than 90 seconds which was not a good thing.

Taylor Williamson should go through, he's coming onto his own at the right time. The jokes weren't that great but his delivery and timing were right on the money.

Booty was more mindless than I remembered them being and kudos to MelB who still managed to find some positives in that performance.

Red Panda tried but failed. Innovative force got the short end of the stick in the production department. The song choice was horrible and felt completely out of sync with the act and made light weight of the danger they put themselves into.

I was not a fan of Collins Key whom I though relied too much on his boyish charm to achieve his popularity. He tried big but failed miserably as his act was utterly confusing. The girlfriend was obviously 100% a shill and so were the 4 ball bag holders. Maybe David Copperfield could make something out of this ordinary trick but not Collins Key.

My prediction for the 4 winners are:
Forte
Catapult
Taylor Williamson

4th and 5th are Angela Hoover and Jonathan Allen with the judges pick Jonathan Allen.
Edited by darklord700 - 8/27/13 at 9:48pm
post #238 of 361
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My prediction for the 4 winners are:
Forte
Catapult
Taylor Williamson

4th and 5th are Angela Hoover and Jonathan Allen with the judges pick Jonathan Allen.
I believe that 6 of the 12 move on this week.
post #239 of 361
My take on Collins Key trick is that the girlfriend was a shill. The way she pulled out the polka dot cell phone and her forced reply to Howie's asking if she and Collins knew each other was a dead giveaway.

The question then becomes how did Collins make the judges pick the right balls. The four ball bag handlers could be shills.

We weren't shown what adjectives were printed on each of the ball and all Collins needed to do was to put the synonymy adjectives in each of the bag.

The girl has black hair but if Howie picked a ball that said "short", "dark" etc, Collins would always be right.

Having said that Collins is very popular on FB and he probably will go through if they are picking 6 out of 12.
Edited by darklord700 - 8/28/13 at 7:26am
post #240 of 361
I got
Forte
Taylor
Angela Hoover
Jonathan Allen
Collins Key

Last spot could be one of the singers, perhaps fat beard guy or the pretty girl
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