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post #31 of 361
ROFL I knew it.. he better get another act, like being Jake Gyllenhaal imitator
post #32 of 361
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

ROFL I knew it.. he better get another act, like being Jake Gyllenhaal imitator
Does knowing how he does it ruin the illusion?

I've always been a fan of the magicians on this show, and they never get any credit from the judges. Part of being a good magician isn't doing "HOWDY-DOO-DAT?", but being a good showman while doing it.
post #33 of 361
The magicians I've seen on this show (even the ones advancing far) have been terrible. It is sooooo easy the figure out their "illusions".
post #34 of 361
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His cane wasn't anchored into the ground though, I wonder how he stabilized it so much with just the cane. Maybe he set it into something within his mat.
post #35 of 361
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The magicians I've seen on this show (even the ones advancing far) have been terrible. It is sooooo easy the figure out their "illusions".
A lot of that has to do with the two minute time constraint. I remember a magician from last year who did an illusion, and I thought it would have been better if he had expanded on the showmanship as opposed to getting to the trick so quickly. I googled him and found a series of youtube videos from his performances, and the exact same illusion was miles better when expanded to 5-6 minutes.
post #36 of 361
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His cane wasn't anchored into the ground though, I wonder how he stabilized it so much with just the cane. Maybe he set it into something within his mat.

I was thinking that under his matt there is a flat (heavy) metal plate and is cut to size where it can counter balance him from the stick?
I don't recal if at any point he added smoke or a distraction to prep the area under him, almost wish I did not delete the show from my DVR, just to check it again!
post #37 of 361
OK, I just found it on youtube, if you look closely at his left arm, it's always bent in a 90 degree angle, so the support is there, once the stick is set up, it locks under his wrist and his contraption underneath helps him pop up in the air, once up notice how his back is arched towards the back, to support him, after he is done the smoke is to distrack us from him unlatching from the stick under the wrist but then he still walks out with his arm bent the whole time:




Edited by ElectroMike - 6/7/13 at 10:45am
post #38 of 361
Next up for Special Head: Snake Charming with Invisible Cobras.tongue.gif
post #39 of 361
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Originally Posted by ElectroMike View Post

OK, I just found it on youtube, if you look closely at his left arm, it's always bent in a 90 degree angle, so the support is there, once the stick is set up, it locks under his wrist and his contraption underneath helps him pop up in the air, once up notice how his back is arched towards the back, to support him, after he is done the smoke is to distrack us from him unlatching from the stick under the wrist but then he still walks out with his arm bent the whole time:




Ok but when did he set that up? He laid his cane on the ground and bowed down to it then picked it up.
post #40 of 361
Damn it NBC and their promos already spoiled tomorrow's show (they may have shown all the auditions in the promo)

So what to watch the rest of the time (maybe 90 minutes of trash and 30 of actual performers)
post #41 of 361
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BUMP

Second audition show, tonight at 9 PM ET/PT.
post #42 of 361
Meh, didn't see any real "winners" in last night show, ventriloquist girl could make it far (she has a nice singing voice, perhaps they ask her to sing instead)

Opera guy didn't impressed me, I think he lacked some range.

Once again, tons of filler material and lack of auditions shown
post #43 of 361
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What surprised me about last night's selections was the near absence of rejected acts in the broadcast: one audition that was borderline [Pistol Packin' Paula] and only one that was horrible [J. C. Starbright] were shown.  (Edit: I'd forgotten about Andrew Ward, so one that was borderline and two that were terrible got into the broadcast.)  Usually NBC peppers the audition shows with a supply of rejected acts in among the good ones, just for the change of pace and to cater to viewers’ Schadenfreude.

Megan Piphus is good as a singing ventriloquist, but she's not up there with Terry Fator; of course, she's less than half his age, so she may get there.

Travis Pratt's on-stage proposal was clearly prearranged and was no surprise to the judges nor to his fiancée.  At least he's not in Goth makeup and absurd heels like the opera-singing falsettist from last season (or was it season 6?).

And, fatso though I am myself, I'll say it: Jonathan Allen needs to change the way he dresses so as not to outline his bulges, or he'll lose votes over his looks alone.  Neal E. Boyd, who won Season 3, was even heavier, but his outfits showed only his size without the details.

Regarding Paul Thomas Mitchell: in Season 6 Morgan and Osbourne strongly advised Dani Shay not to use original material in the live shows but to perform covers then, so that voters could compare her renditions to those that they knew of the same song.  I thought of that when this season's judges, including Mandel, who made no dissent two years ago with the other judges’ advice to Shay, were so thrilled with Mitchell for doing original material.

So, will All That be back again this season?  As I said last year, they finished in the money in Season 1 (they won a car, as did the Millers), shouldn't be eligible any more, and should have been turned away from the auditions in Season 7.  That's unlike D'Angelo Castro and Ruby Castro, who got to the quarterfinals in Seson 6 as part of the Miami All-Stars and to the semifinals in Season 7 as members of the Untoucheables but have never yet claimed a prize.

Funny that D'Angelo and Amanda danced to a version of "Straight No Chaser," because opposite AGT last night our local PBS station was showing a concert by the a cappella group by that name (they took the name from that song) as pledge drive programming.  Ruby and Jonas made me remember Anna and Patryk from Season 6, but only because of their ages: their dancing style is very different.
 
Edited by dattier - 6/13/13 at 8:36am
post #44 of 361
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Regarding Paul Thomas Mitchell: in Season 6 Morgan and Osbourne strongly advised Dani Shay not to use original material in the live shows but to perform covers then, so that voters could compare her renditions to those that they knew of the same song.  I thought of that when this season's judges, including Mandel, who made no dissent two years ago with the other judges’ advice to Shay, were so thrilled with Mitchell for doing original material.
They're fickle. That's what you get with random celebrities as judges instead of people who actually know what they're doing.

I've heard the judges contradict themselves about the same group in the same season before.

And yeah, I think the groups that make it to the final rounds where the audience begins voting shouldn't be allowed back in the competition every year. They've had their 15 minutes, and should have been able to parlay their stardom into increased tickets at their semi-pro events (face it, most of these performers are already making money at their craft... barely anyone here is amateur). If they didn't boost their exposure by being on AGT previously, why should they get a free ride to a second chance?
post #45 of 361
Maybe those dancing kids, when they are bit more mature can come back or go to another show, maybe SYTYCD, I don't think ballroom dancing is gonna make it to the finals
post #46 of 361
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And yeah, I think the groups that make it to the final rounds where the audience begins voting shouldn't be allowed back in the competition every year.
I'm not even going that far.  I'm saying only that acts who actually win prizes shouldn't be allowed back.  The second- and third-place finishers in Season 1 were awarded cars.  Philbin didn't say who was second and who was third, but they were the Millers and All That.

Now I'm thinking about the magician from last night with the dollar bill and snack bag trick and I'm not going to manage to sleep until I replay in the DVR for a reminder of his name.  (Edit: his name is Collins Key.)
 
Edited by dattier - 6/13/13 at 8:26am
post #47 of 361
No really WOW momment, some good singers, not much else. While some of the acts were cool to watch, none can hold an entire vegas show.
post #48 of 361
Good assessment, guys. I’ll give you my take.

Those kid dancers are amazing. But I agree with DrLar; their age is a negative. Because they came back as individuals and not a group, I’m okay with that.

I wasn’t as impressed with the first opera singer (the one who proposed) as the judges were. There were several times he was not smooth but rough. Jonathan, on the other hand, was excellent. If he can duplicate that a couple of more times he’ll be a top 10 candidate.

Paul Thomas Mitchell was good, but it's a little early to make him out to be John Mayer.

They jury is still out on the magician. I believe the dollar bill that went up in flames was a fake. Anything that burns that fast, especially when it’s folded several times, are designed that way.

The cute ventriloquist has great control of her mouth. Need to see more.

So far there have been very few ridiculous acts and a lot that are going to Vegas. It makes me wonder if they aren’t stacking the beginning of the season to get more viewers and we are in for some real stinkers. I like this season.

This show can tug at your emotions.


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"Straight No Chaser,"

We saw Straight No Chaser when they came to Richmond two years ago. They are a very talented group, and they put on an excellent show. We’ll be seeing them again on the 30th when they perform at Wolf Trap Farm Park, just outside of D.C. Looking forward to it.
post #49 of 361
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They jury is still out on the magician. I believe the dollar bill that went up in flames was a fake. Anything that burns that fast, especially when it’s folded several times, are designed that way.

Honest question: Does that matter, at all?

I said it earlier about the levitating guy, but does knowing how someone does the illusion make it less impressive? Does that dollar bill being real or fake have any bearing on the skill and sleight of hand required to make your eyes see something your brain is telling you is wrong?

This is probably one reason why I liked the escape artist last season. He lays it all out, he's not calling it magic, he's just escaping from a trap in under a certain amount of time. Yet people didn't like him because there wasn't enough glitz and glamour to it. That's all "magic" is, glitz and glamour to something that is sleight of hand or requires skill and preparation.
post #50 of 361
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Honest question: Does that matter, at all?

That is a valid questoin, and one I wouldn’t disagree with. All I was trying to do is guess how those tricks are done. That is one of the fascinations I have about magic or illusions: trying to figure out how they do it. Once I figure it out, it still doesn’t take away from the trick. Some are more impressive than others, and when that happens it is mind blowing. I’m anxious to see what else the kid can do.

Also, we found out what happens when the judges tie; they don’t advance.
post #51 of 361
I was underwhelmed with the head stand guy on the 80' pole. The most dangerous part was climbing up there, once up there almsot all danger was taken out. His only fear would of been if it snapped because he had almost zero change of falling off. His arms were placed into two ringed areas that went all the way up past his elbow. He would of had to break his arms in order to fall of that thing, he was in pretty secure once they were placed in there.
post #52 of 361
I wonder what material that pole is made off, it could have broken due to the pendulum because of the wind..
post #53 of 361
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Honest question: Does that matter, at all?
Well, it matters to some of the participants in this thread.  There's room for differing viewpoints here, isn't there?
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This is probably one reason why I liked the escape artist last season. He lays it all out, he's not calling it magic, he's just escaping from a trap in under a certain amount of time. Yet people didn't like him because there wasn't enough glitz and glamour to it.
I agree that Spencer Horsman was underappreciated.  At least we can hope that the exposure has helped his career.
Edited by dattier - 6/13/13 at 3:29pm
post #54 of 361
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== BUMP ==

Because of the different time tomorrow night, I'm posting the bump message a day early.  The June 18 installment of Season 8 auditions will air at 8 PM EDT/PDT and run for only one hour, so that the finale of "The Voice" can get the longer and more important timeslot from 9 to 11.

AGT returns to the 9:00-11:00 timeslot on June 23.
post #55 of 361
Thanks for the heads up on the new time tonight, hope my DVR picked it up but I'll check manually!

Nick Cannon was on Howard's Sirius show live today, what a crack up!biggrin.gif
post #56 of 361
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This audition show was made up completely of acts that passed: one had three yeses and a no, the rest had four yeses, and there wasn't an X all evening.  (On principle, I thought Deanna DellaCioppa deserved one X for her song choice but still four yeses for her performance.  Any singer auditioning with "And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going" or "You Raise Me Up" and any vocal group auditioning with "Firework" should get one X for triteness.  Cinda Ramseur in Season 2 mined "Dreamgirls" for her audition but she steered clear of the obvious and chose "One Night Only.")

Funniest moment for me: Rong Niu says she's going to juggle bowls and Judge Brown thinks she said she'll jiggle balls.
Edited by dattier - 6/19/13 at 9:20am
post #57 of 361
I believe that is the first time in the history of AGT that a buzzer was not used, and the first time everyone went through. I would agree with the judges, however...

Only three were worthwhile, IMO, and two of them weren’t Americans. I still haven’t figured that out.

The unicyclist was amazing. I couldn’t believe she didn’t drop a one.

The robotic dancer was awesome, even better than Turf. My knees would be destroyed if I attempted those moves.

The American Military Spouses Choir was great. The two lead singers (there were two excellent voices Howard, not one) were excellent.

At this point in the season I don’t really care whether any performer is a Vegas act or not; those that aren’t will be eliminated as the competition moves along. I want to be entertained, and this season is doing just that; entertaining me.
Edited by Aliens - 6/19/13 at 9:26am
post #58 of 361
I know the Chorus is just doing it for our military awareness and not the money... (1 million split 30 ways during 20 years is nothing), yeah the lead singers are nice

The Chinese woman was unbelievable! I thought for sure she'll drop at least one.. maybe more amazed that she is 42 and still has those abilities
post #59 of 361
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At this point in the season I don’t really care whether any performer is Vegas act or not; those that aren’t will be eliminated as the competition moves along. I want to be entertained, and this season is doing just that; entertaining me.
I enjoy seeing the first round eliminations because then you know for sure that they won't be back again (obviously excepting second chance qualifiers, which are rare from the first round anyway). I dislike seeing sub-par groups in the Vegas/beyond rounds, because that just makes the show a farce. Case in point: the guy getting shot out of a cannon last season? Why? Why why why why why?
post #60 of 361
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This audition show was made up completely of acts that passed:

On the radio Stern said that during editing, they changed up the format a little this year, which is NOT to mix up the show with X'd out and passing acts, they will show more passing acts until the show picks up in Vegas.
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