Samsung F8500 Plasma HDTV: Deepest Blacks, Bright as LCD, Upgradeable - Page 2

Originally Posted by imagic 

There's never a need for local dimming on a plasma TV.

Originally Posted by mo949 

So then why the need for a black algorithm?

Originally Posted by vinnie97 

Hardly a unanimous impression by all attendees.
Speaking prematurely much?

Originally Posted by Icon13 
Every review that I read supports my stance, including direct comparisons to the ZT. If you can find any info or reviews that indicate otherwise, I am all ears.

PS. My company has a booth at CES every year.

Originally Posted by Icon13 

Previous models use black algorithms. This is just the updated version.

There is also no backlighting on plasmas. Each pixel is individually self illuminated so local dimming is not an option.

Originally Posted by imagic 

I have been a certified plasma skeptic in the past

Originally Posted by Icon13 

Every review that I read supports my stance, including direct comparisons to the ZT. If you can find any info or reviews that indicate otherwise, I am all ears.

PS. My company has a booth at CES every year.

Originally Posted by Kimwyn 

i'll just wait to hear what D-Nice has to say about this unit......when he talks, i listen.

Originally Posted by Icon13 

According to the first impressions at CES the Sammy is superior; a true leap forward in technical acheivement and almost on par with OLED at a fraction of the price.

Considering that Panny plasma sales were far below projections last year, I think this TV was a huge blow to them and may be part of the reason they are exiting the plasma game if the rumors are true. A new champion has been crowned.

Hey Mark, do you have any shots of the F8500 next to the Sharp and Panny? I know pictures will not do it justice, but I am very curious to see.

Originally Posted by Bukley 

I wonder how this compares to the Panasonic ZT series plasmas

Originally Posted by fritzi93 

Active 3D, I presume?

How about 24 fps content, can it display at, say, 72 or 96 without pulldown?

Looks very tempting. The claim about its brightness got my attention, since I prefer to not draw the blinds in my HT during the day. I wonder how its blacks compare to the new Panasonics?

Originally Posted by vinnie97 

Hardly a unanimous impression by all attendees.
Speaking prematurely much?

Originally Posted by 8mile13 

There has been no critcal reviews yet. And there have been no user threads yet. It's dumb to make up your mind at this point IMO

Originally Posted by jgriffin99 

Have the F8500 on display at my store, admittedly in a bright environment. This thing is BRIGHT out of the box. Put it in the Movie mode tones it down quite a bit. Can't really judge the black levels where it sits but they look pretty good in a bright showroom. Perhaps I can get it into a dark room and update this post, I do have an Oppo that needs a partner

The 64" is sitting right next to a Panasonic GT50 (last years model), the Sammy is definitely brighter but I slightly prefer the colors on the Panasonic. Just my two cents!

Originally Posted by hidefpaul 

My local dealer will have both sets ( F8500 & ZT60) as soon as they are available.....I'll be actually seeing them side by side with the same program material......can't wait!
It will be interesting to see which one will actually come out on top. I own a 60" Kuro, so my expectations will be high.

Paul

Originally Posted by Icon13 

Every review that I read supports my stance, including direct comparisons to the ZT. If you can find any info or reviews that indicate otherwise, I am all ears.

PS. My company has a booth at CES every year.

Originally Posted by 802Diamond 




For those wondering,
coincedence has it that I went to a dealershow of Panasonic (wednesday) and Samsung (yesterday, thursday.)

First of Panasonic: the televisions were on display in a small room. The LED displays were to the left, and while they al seemed great, I was immediately drawn to the plasma's at the back. The GT60 and even more so the ZT60 (both of hem the 55' displays) were so gorgeous that I was instantly drooling: in my life I have seen some great televisions (both in dimensions and picture quality), but this was a class of it's own altogether. The blacks were black and the tonality and colors were both vibrant and natural.

What a disillusion the day after at Samsung. My colleague had said that the Samsung should be better. It's not to say the Samsung is bad, hell it was the best television out there, easily beating the F8000, which in itself is no easy task. Nevertheless, and not having seen the Panny and the Sammy on the same day on the same place with the same content playing, I think the Panasonic GT/ZT has not spoken its' last word...

Originally Posted by turnne1 

where did you see a Panasonic GT60?....I thought Panasonic has simplified their line for 2013 ?...as are Samsung and LG with fewer plasma models in their line up

http://hdguru.com/panasonic-2013-plasma-hdtv-prices-and-features-revealed/10144/


Warren

Originally Posted by turnne1 

Interesting...as I read a review that said the Panasonic ZT was the star of the plasma show at CES

so...clearly there is some difference in point of view

and there have been no critical reviews yet

I tend not to get caught up in the "marketing hype" as sometimes when the products get to market there begins the "let down" factor


Warren

Originally Posted by turnne1 

where did you see a Panasonic GT60?....I thought Panasonic has simplified their line for 2013 ?...as are Samsung and LG with fewer plasma models in their line up

http://hdguru.com/panasonic-2013-plasma-hdtv-prices-and-features-revealed/10144/


Warren

Originally Posted by fatuglyguy 

There is still a GT60 in Europe for 2013.... although it only comes in 42" and 50" sizes, not 55". Perhaps he actually saw a VT60?

http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/eu2013_plasma/index.html

Originally Posted by imagic 

You do realize this TV has that exact feature?