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Sorcerer (1977) Finally Heading To Blu-ray

post #1 of 30
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http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/william-friedkins-misunderstood-1977-sorcerer-getting-re-release-exclusive-81966

"We’re working off the original negative, which is in pretty good shape, but without changing the original concept we have to bring it back in terms of color saturation, sharpness and all the stuff," he said."

With any luck, this will be out on Blu-ray in the 4th quarter of this year (2013). One thing that Friedkin confirmed that's not mentioned in this article is that the studio handling the re-release for it's limited theatrical run and home video release will not be Criterion as some rumors pointed to.
post #2 of 30
I've been eager for any sort of upgrade to this for years. The DVD was pan&scan 4:3, cropped I think.

I still can't believe they got people to drive trucks out on those rope bridges during the flooded river scenes.

-Bill
Edited by wmcclain - 3/25/13 at 2:09pm
post #3 of 30
please don't mess it up friedkiN!
post #4 of 30
I can finally retire this DVD smile.gif
post #5 of 30
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I've been eager for any sort of upgrade to this for years. The DVD was pan&scan.

I still can't believe they got people to drive trucks out on those rope bridges during the flooded river scenes.

-Bill

Are you sure it's pan and scan and not full-frame open matte? Will a widescreen release actually crop the top and bottom from the DVD version? I have the DVD, and found that I didn't like the film as much as I'd remembered from when I saw it upon its release. From Wikipedia:

A VHS version of Sorcerer was released in 1990. The DVD was released in the U.S. and Canada in 1998 in a non-widescreen version, which is not its original theatrical aspect ratio: it was shown in cinemas at a ratio of 1.85:1. During the 1980s and 1990s, like Stanley Kubrick, Friedkin consistently claimed that he preferred the home video releases of his films to be presented in the fullframe format.[11] However, since widescreen televisions have become popular, Friedkin has allowed many of his other films to be released on DVD in their original widescreen formats (The French Connection, Cruising, To Live and Die in L.A.). Currently, there are no plans for a newly remastered release; however, Friedkin's controversial 1980 film Cruising was issued as a deluxe DVD in 2007, with Friedkin indicating that Sorcerer might get the same treatment at some point.
post #6 of 30
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Are you sure it's pan and scan and not full-frame open matte?

You're right in that I although I know the DVD was 4:3, I don't know whether it was cropped or open matte. I would be surprised if it were open matte, but neither do I recall the disc or theatrical version well enough to say.

-Bill
post #7 of 30
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The director told TheWrap that a "major studio" has gotten involved in creating a new recolored, digital print

Sigh. Some people just don't learn from their mistakes.
post #8 of 30
They did a 2k scan of the negative and I am assuming Billy will have learned his lesson. Then again...

I'm hopeful. They intend to show this in theaters so it's doubtful they would strip it of detail.
Edited by Matt_Stevens - 3/25/13 at 2:16pm
post #9 of 30
The remastered French Connection disc looks great, and I'm assuming Friedkin won't be up to the same shenanigans after disowning the original disc.
post #10 of 30
I agree with Josh and others that he only disowned to save his own reputation. HE made those changes. HE approved them. You can see him doing it on the documentary. but foolishly, he approved these changes based upon a tiny little calibrated monitor. He was unable to see the detail had been stripped from thefilm. Had he viewed it on a large screen, it would have been obvious.

The new-new BluRay is sensational. Love it. It might even be too rich in color, as it reminds me of Kodachrome 40, but whatever. It's likely far truer to the source than what we have had over the years.
post #11 of 30
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

I agree with Josh and others that he only disowned to save his own reputation. HE made those changes. HE approved them. You can see him doing it on the documentary. but foolishly, he approved these changes based upon a tiny little calibrated monitor. He was unable to see the detail had been stripped from thefilm. Had he viewed it on a large screen, it would have been obvious.

The new-new BluRay is sensational. Love it. It might even be too rich in color, as it reminds me of Kodachrome 40, but whatever. It's likely far truer to the source than what we have had over the years.

I personally don't care why he changed his mind. Just the fact that he did, or claimed to, is all that matters. And now we have a beautiful Blu-ray to show it.
post #12 of 30
Seen on TheDigitalBits, screening in Chicago on April 14: http://chicagocriticsfilmfestival.com/sorcerer/

"35mm print straight from the Paramount Pictures archives"?

-Bill
post #13 of 30
About three months further down the road now since the last post. I'm really looking forward to an upgrade in SORCERER to Blu-Ray and widescreen. It's been a long wait.

Harry
post #14 of 30
According to various tweets from Friedkin himself:
  • Warner Bros. and Universal are both involved in the upcoming Blu-ray and DVD release, to unknown degrees. "A lot" of extras are planned, though the only confirmed one so far is a commentary track.
  • Color timing and 5.1 audio mixing/conversion for the new master started last month. Friedkin mentioned one Ned Price (who is WB's VP of Mastering) as supervising the release along with him, which suggests that WB may be handling that side of things (yay?).
  • The new print is due to be shown at the Venice Film Festival next month (August 29).
post #15 of 30
Great news. Haven't seen this film in so long because I've been holding out for a good disc.
post #16 of 30


"Spring"...March? April?
post #17 of 30
Ok, i was at the screening of Sorcerer ( a 1977 masterpiece )at the Venice film festival last month, and it was a restored version of the film by Warner brothers and it is a 4k scanning of the film...i report my impressions about it from the Sorcerer blog

I am literally stunned by this new digital master, this is the best version they could ever made, and the best could possibly ever made in my opinion in terms of image quality and definition ( that’s very high ), definitely is one of the finest work of digital remastering for a seventy’s film i ever seen and i will ever see..the sound is like a bomb that is ready to explode into your ears everytime.. if i were in you guys i couldn’t wait until the next spring..really i couldn’t …this is far better than the print used for the ray blu disc version of the exorcist..( Sorry for my english..)

Yes , i have been really impressed by this new 4k scan technology, it gives a new birth to any film, i think 4k it's the real blu ray!! ( the actual 2k blu ray are only a taste of high definition), so now it's absolutely necessary for Warner and other film house to let us enjoy this experience for all the most know masterpiece they 've produced before smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
post #18 of 30
Ok Friedkin says that the blu ray will be on sale on April 14!! and before the release it will be on theatre!! smile.gif
post #19 of 30
Thanks for the heads-up, amamansa. Now we just need some data on the release itself...
post #20 of 30
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Originally Posted by Bill C. View Post

Thanks for the heads-up, amamansa. Now we just need some data on the release itself...

Here you go:
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=12924
post #21 of 30
Great!
post #22 of 30
I really want to know what extras are included with this, but that aside...yes, please.
post #23 of 30
Who knows what extras will be included...but you can find two videos on youtube: one is a making of the car crashing sequence in the beginning of the film, the second one is a sequence on the truck which was cut away from the final cut.
post #24 of 30
From The Digital Bits site:

post #25 of 30
That cover sucks. What was wrong with the original artwork?




Edited by gnj1958 - 1/13/14 at 9:57pm
post #26 of 30
I like both
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post #28 of 30
Should I wait for the italian version?...my parents don't speak english..rolleyes.gif
post #29 of 30
Gary Tooze has his review on the DVD Beaver site: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews_61/sorcerer_blu-ray.htm complete with screen captures in full 1920x1080.

On his main review page, he's got smaller-sized screen captures, and I thought it would be fun to compare those exact frames with my old 4:3 DVD. I posted the images at the HTF on this page: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/328895-whv-press-release-sorcerer-blu-ray-book/?p=4074107

It's quite striking to see how much of the picture was lopped off for the pan'n'scan prints. I'm reserving judgment on the color palette until I see the actual DVD a little more than a week from now.

Harry
post #30 of 30
It looks great but I wish it was cheaper. $24 is a bit steep for me. Guess I'll have to wait till it goes on sale eventually.
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