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post #451 of 994

sorry forgot to tell i have yamaha NSP40 speakers attached to it

post #452 of 994
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post #453 of 994
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

You will have to switch over manually.

@bond: ok here are some other questions:

- when i run YPAO....i usually have to tweak distances a little...for various speakers (yamaha makes a mistakes of around 10 cm...and with the sub of around 50cm....) anyway....after changing the distances....do i also have to change the levels of the speakers ? i guess it would be logical no ???

- question about 5.1 now: bond this is weird....with my yamaha soundbar, my old pioneer 5.1 and now with this yamaha 475....every time i play a DTS movie...sound is MUCH weaker than DD 5.1 ! i watched dozens of movies and all have this "problem"; i have to push up the volume "a lot"....to get it to hear normally ?????

IS this a "thing" with DTS audio ?? as all my gear reports the same findings ?? mad.gif

thanx
post #454 of 994
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Originally Posted by drprasath View Post

hi guys am new to this forum and also new to a rxv475.
i tried and ran YPAO, but the results were not good. i cud not get dialogues in hearing volume. its too low.
can anybody help me with manually configuring  the speakers? thank u in advance

you ,never used an AVR.... rolleyes.gif
we all tweak volume levels and distances after auto setup....just get in the menu and change/correct. it is in the "speakers" section....simple !
post #455 of 994
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Originally Posted by nenito2k View Post

@bond: ok here are some other questions:

- when i run YPAO....i usually have to tweak distances a little...for various speakers (yamaha makes a mistakes of around 10 cm...and with the sub of around 50cm....) anyway....after changing the distances....do i also have to change the levels of the speakers ? i guess it would be logical no ???

- question about 5.1 now: bond this is weird....with my yamaha soundbar, my old pioneer 5.1 and now with this yamaha 475....every time i play a DTS movie...sound is MUCH weaker than DD 5.1 ! i watched dozens of movies and all have this "problem"; i have to push up the volume "a lot"....to get it to hear normally ?????

IS this a "thing" with DTS audio ?? as all my gear reports the same findings ?? mad.gif

thanx
I wouldnot tweak the distance settings. YPAO is usually very good at that. Keep in mind it is not setting the literal physical distances. It is measuring the time that it takes for the mic to receive the sound. And it accounts for reflections among other things.
You can change the speaker volumes if you like.
I have no idea why DTS sounds quieter than Dolby Digital. That is not my experience.
post #456 of 994

Hi All,

I am new to this HT and AV receivers thingy. I just got a Yamaha RX-V575 with only two floor standing full range 6-ohm Wharfedale Diamond 10.7. 500$ for the receiver and another 500$ for the speakers. I bought them totally out of the technical specs to be best value within my budget. I connected the speakers using bi-amp connection to give good power. Those speakers has 3 drivers: 2 bass,  middle and a tweeter. I am planning to add more speakers later on but definitely I will not buy a woofer as those speakers deliver too much bass (yes, too much).

 

I hear the sound coming out of the system and I believe something is wrong. Bass is too strong, deep and not too loud (I know that this is a good thing), I play the croods Blu-ray and sound is really booming at -30DB it shake windows quietly and it really feels like u r at theater.

 

When I play music, sound of the pianos, flutes and violins is too low and quite muddy. Bass is dominating the scene and I do not enjoy the music:(. I do not seem to be able to lower the bass, or make middle range or even high range clearer. I want to listen to music and cannot get it really crisp as I wish. Different instruments do not come out clear out of this setup.

 

Do I need to add more speakers? Center one for example. Should I check the connection cables to my speakers or did I just buy the wrong combination? any tips to tune the receiver?

 

Any clue?

post #457 of 994
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Originally Posted by AhmedNagy View Post

Hi All,
I am new to this HT and AV receivers thingy. I just got a Yamaha RX-V575 with only two floor standing full range 6-ohm Wharfedale Diamond 10.7. 500$ for the receiver and another 500$ for the speakers. I bought them totally out of the technical specs to be best value within my budget. I connected the speakers using bi-amp connection to give good power. Those speakers has 3 drivers: 2 bass,  middle and a tweeter. I am planning to add more speakers later on but definitely I will not buy a woofer as those speakers deliver too much bass (yes, too much).

I hear the sound coming out of the system and I believe something is wrong. Bass is too strong, deep and not too loud (I know that this is a good thing), I play the croods Blu-ray and sound is really booming at -30DB it shake windows quietly and it really feels like u r at theater.

When I play music, sound of the pianos, flutes and violins is too low and quite muddy. Bass is dominating the scene and I do not enjoy the music:(. I do not seem to be able to lower the bass, or make middle range or even high range clearer. I want to listen to music and cannot get it really crisp as I wish. Different instruments do not come out clear out of this setup.

Do I need to add more speakers? Center one for example. Should I check the connection cables to my speakers or did I just buy the wrong combination? any tips to tune the receiver?

Any clue?

a bluray is 5.1...and you use just 2 speakers...is that normal to you?!biggrin.gif
post #458 of 994
Quote:
Originally Posted by AhmedNagy View Post

Hi All,
I am new to this HT and AV receivers thingy. I just got a Yamaha RX-V575 with only two floor standing full range 6-ohm Wharfedale Diamond 10.7. 500$ for the receiver and another 500$ for the speakers. I bought them totally out of the technical specs to be best value within my budget. I connected the speakers using bi-amp connection to give good power. Those speakers has 3 drivers: 2 bass,  middle and a tweeter. I am planning to add more speakers later on but definitely I will not buy a woofer as those speakers deliver too much bass (yes, too much).

I hear the sound coming out of the system and I believe something is wrong. Bass is too strong, deep and not too loud (I know that this is a good thing), I play the croods Blu-ray and sound is really booming at -30DB it shake windows quietly and it really feels like u r at theater.

When I play music, sound of the pianos, flutes and violins is too low and quite muddy. Bass is dominating the scene and I do not enjoy the music:(. I do not seem to be able to lower the bass, or make middle range or even high range clearer. I want to listen to music and cannot get it really crisp as I wish. Different instruments do not come out clear out of this setup.

Do I need to add more speakers? Center one for example. Should I check the connection cables to my speakers or did I just buy the wrong combination? any tips to tune the receiver?

Any clue?
Have you run YPAO?
post #459 of 994
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I wouldnot tweak the distance settings. YPAO is usually very good at that. Keep in mind it is not setting the literal physical distances. It is measuring the time that it takes for the mic to receive the sound. And it accounts for reflections among other things.
You can change the speaker volumes if you like.
I have no idea why DTS sounds quieter than Dolby Digital. That is not my experience.

1- wait a sec! the distances are not physical one??? are they not the meters from the mic to the speaker???? after reading many reviews...that is what i understood!
2- you claimed many times that YPAO is great....yet when i re-do the same setup 2-3 times in a week...results change..and i touched /moved nothing in the room wink.gif
mainly the sub distance...gpes crazy: i sit 2.5 meters from it...yet the YPAO puts 1.5m, or 3.4 or sometimes 4.9m !!!!!!!!!!!!! the X-over also sets itself randomly on each try: 90,100 or 110....
how can ya explain that bond tongue.giftongue.giftongue.gif
post #460 of 994
I have never claimed that YPAO is "great".
post #461 of 994

thanks nenito

 

but i tried that too and am not comfortable with the sound. for example dialogues are very low and for that i have to push up the volume to say abt 5.0 dbs. then i tried increasing center channel volume alone. its ok after tat. but the thing is ....is there any arbitrary values that u guys with 475 use?

 

secondly i have connected  receiver to my d-link (mod+router) thro ethernet cable and all my android smart phone, Laptop & desktop connected thro wifi.

receiver has a ip address and net radio, update worked.

problem is icud not get it in my laptop r desktop r phone.

wen i type the receivers ip address the browser simply says cannot find....... am i missing something?

post #462 of 994

Yes, I did run it. Not much of luck.

post #463 of 994
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Originally Posted by nenito2k View Post


a bluray is 5.1...and you use just 2 speakers...is that normal to you?!biggrin.gif

Well, I just run the 2-chnl decoding thing from the AVR. I do not care about the surround effects at this stage.

post #464 of 994
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post


Have you run YPAO?

Yes I did run it. It did not change a bit.

post #465 of 994
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Originally Posted by drprasath View Post

thanks nenito

but i tried that too and am not comfortable with the sound. for example dialogues are very low and for that i have to push up the volume to say abt 5.0 dbs. then i tried increasing center channel volume alone. its ok after tat. but the thing is ....is there any arbitrary values that u guys with 475 use?

secondly i have connected  receiver to my d-link (mod+router) thro ethernet cable and all my android smart phone, Laptop & desktop connected thro wifi.
receiver has a ip address and net radio, update worked.
problem is icud not get it in my laptop r desktop r phone.
wen i type the receivers ip address the browser simply says cannot find....... am i missing something?

well the WHOLE point of having an AVR is to adjust the volume levels of each speaker !!! so i don't see the problem....!
it also depends on your speakers....and no there is NO official values for the 475, every one has its own according to the room and speakers they have...if sound is not GOOD maybe you just don't like the yamaha sound....try marantz or denon maybe
post #466 of 994
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Originally Posted by AhmedNagy View Post

Well, I just run the 2-chnl decoding thing from the AVR. I do not care about the surround effects at this stage.
This is a tech forum. If you want help be specific. "2-chnl decoding thing" doesnt help much. Are you using 2 channel stereo for music? Have you tried the Pure Direct mode? What is your source?
Bi amping with an AVR is a waste of time and will make no difference. When you ran YPAO what Power Amp Assign setting did you use? Did you make sure that you chose "Yes" under "Bi-Amp"?
Are you using quality speaker wire?
After you ran YPAO what were the results?
Have you read the Owners Manual?
post #467 of 994
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Originally Posted by drprasath View Post

thanks nenito

but i tried that too and am not comfortable with the sound. for example dialogues are very low and for that i have to push up the volume to say abt 5.0 dbs. then i tried increasing center channel volume alone. its ok after tat. but the thing is ....is there any arbitrary values that u guys with 475 use?

secondly i have connected  receiver to my d-link (mod+router) thro ethernet cable and all my android smart phone, Laptop & desktop connected thro wifi.
receiver has a ip address and net radio, update worked.
problem is icud not get it in my laptop r desktop r phone.
wen i type the receivers ip address the browser simply says cannot find....... am i missing something?
There are no arbitrary values. If you have to bump up the Dialogue Level for movies that is OK. That us fairly common with home theater in a box systems like what you have. Use the "Dialogue Adjust" feature.
post #468 of 994
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post


This is a tech forum. If you want help be specific. "2-chnl decoding thing" doesnt help much. Are you using 2 channel stereo for music? Have you tried the Pure Direct mode? What is your source?
Bi amping with an AVR is a waste of time and will make no difference. When you ran YPAO what Power Amp Assign setting did you use? Did you make sure that you chose "Yes" under "Bi-Amp"?
Are you using quality speaker wire?
After you ran YPAO what were the results?
Have you read the Owners Manual?

Well, yes I am using 2 channel stereo. I even assume if you select 7.1 or whatever it will just put everything to 2 speakers and will not waste any track (I believe that is a logical assumption), the AVR realize that I have only 2 speakers set to Large. I have tried the pure direct, and it is better with Blu-rays, actually all movies sound good or great. Still music is not good and muddy. My source for music is 10 years old Audio CDs or USB MP3 and FLAC. I compared playing same song on FLAC and MP3 and it is not any better.

 

I know that Bi-amping will just give you more power and does not impact quality and I am fine with that unless it has bad impact on sound clarity (which I understand that it does not). I did run YPAW n read the owner manual.

 

I use standard 16-G wires 3 meters each (Taiwan made, from RadioShack, 20$ pack). I do not use plugs, so I directly put it into the speakers and AVR back screws. Could it impact sound negatively? how can I check the quality of my connections?

 

Remember that my main issue is I cannot lower how the bass is so it is always strong and dominating which is great for movies but not music. Muddy pianos, flutes and violins. Even music coming from Blu-ray movies is not that good (Oblivion and Gatsby movies for example).

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If music in Pure Direct mode sounds muddy with all quality sources then either those speakers dont suit you or the AVR doesnt.
There is nothing wrong with your connections. Using bare wire is fine. The AVR would tell you if the wires were backwards.
You have been misled. Biamping with your AVR does not produce any more power. But it shouldnt adversely affect sound quality either. Its just a waste of time and speaker wire. You can try to wire them normally to see if it helps. Also those are new speakers and may need some break in.
Honestly I think you either have a problem with your settings or your expectations. You have an excellent speaker/AVR combo so it should sound great. Especially with 2 channel music in Pure Direct mode there is little in the way of variables to consider.
Keep experimenting.
post #470 of 994
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

If music in Pure Direct mode sounds muddy with all quality sources then either those speakers dont suit you or the AVR doesnt.
There is nothing wrong with your connections. Using bare wire is fine. The AVR would tell you if the wires were backwards.
You have been misled. Biamping with your AVR does not produce any more power. But it shouldnt adversely affect sound quality either. Its just a waste of time and speaker wire. You can try to wire them normally to see if it helps. Also those are new speakers and may need some break in.
Honestly I think you either have a problem with your settings or your expectations. You have an excellent speaker/AVR combo so it should sound great. Especially with 2 channel music in Pure Direct mode there is little in the way of variables to consider.
Keep experimenting.

Thanks Bond. I know it should be a great combo. I did not know that speakers take time to break in like a new car engine:)

 

Since I know it can be a problem with my expectations:) let me ask specific questions...

- should the sound be lacking any quality by running only on 2 speakers? Should I try adding center speaker to enhance mid-high ranges for example?

- How can I make sure that speakers connections are not causing a problem? What are better wires I should try that can enhance the quality of sound?

post #471 of 994
You should have no problems running 16ga at that short of a distance. You could try some high quality 12 ga but its unlikely to make any difference. When I say high quality I just mean 99.9% pure copper speaker wire. That may even be what you have. I dont know. Expensive cables and wires are just a waste of money. I would suggest, again, that you wire them normally just to see. Bi wiring them only adds unnecessary complication to the system.
Adding a center may give you an overall boost in mids and highs but that wont fix the real problem. Those Wharfdales should sound excellent.
post #472 of 994
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

You should have no problems running 16ga at that short of a distance. You could try some high quality 12 ga but its unlikely to make any difference. When I say high quality I just mean 99.9% pure copper speaker wire. That may even be what you have. I dont know. Expensive cables and wires are just a waste of money. I would suggest, again, that you wire them normally just to see. Bi wiring them only adds unnecessary complication to the system.
Adding a center may give you an overall boost in mids and highs but that wont fix the real problem. Those Wharfdales should sound excellent.

Thanks Bond. I believe that the Wharfedale 10.7 is actually amazing delivering this deep strong bass at very low volume while conversations or vocals are still very clear. I really appreciate the speakers. RX-V575 has been rated as top ten AVRs in 2013. That should be a good deal and great combo like you say.

 

I just did a reset to YPAO levels so now both speakers produce same output levels, played with the EQ a bit. I am not sure if EQ is still in effect in direct mode. Now in direct mode, Korsakov Symphony No. 35 sounds much more crisp, I am still looking for some optimum clarity. You were right, I have extensive high expectations for every note. My ear appreciate crisp mid/high ranges over bass ones. That is just me I think.

 

I will go for better cables (I know that this could be worthless) after a week to give sometime for the speakers to break-in (whatever that physically means:)) then I will put a center speaker. Let me see if that make things any better.

 

 

Another question that just popped into my head regarding Bi-amping, I have read that Bi-amping will deliver more power at its best and I find that quite logical if the amp does not provide different signals (like high and low freq.) for the speaker connections. However I am now thinking if Bi-amping should actually enhance the THD output. When you Bi-amp, it is like you are operating 4 speakers and not just 2 of them. According to the specs: 1 speaker->0.9% THD, 2 speakers->0.09%THD, 4 speakers-->???? (should that be lower?).

 

Many thanks for the eye opening information:)

post #473 of 994
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Originally Posted by AhmedNagy View Post

Thanks Bond. I believe that the Wharfedale 10.7 is actually amazing delivering this deep strong bass at very low volume while conversations or vocals are still very clear. I really appreciate the speakers. RX-V575 has been rated as top ten AVRs in 2013. That should be a good deal and great combo like you say.

I just did a reset to YPAO levels so now both speakers produce same output levels, played with the EQ a bit. I am not sure if EQ is still in effect in direct mode. Now in direct mode, Korsakov Symphony No. 35 sounds much more crisp, I am still looking for some optimum clarity. You were right, I have extensive high expectations for every note. My ear appreciate crisp mid/high ranges over bass ones. That is just me I think.

I will go for better cables (I know that this could be worthless) after a week to give sometime for the speakers to break-in (whatever that physically means:)) then I will put a center speaker. Let me see if that make things any better.


Another question that just popped into my head regarding Bi-amping, I have read that Bi-amping will deliver more power at its best and I find that quite logical if the amp does not provide different signals (like high and low freq.) for the speaker connections. However I am now thinking if Bi-amping should actually enhance the THD output. When you Bi-amp, it is like you are operating 4 speakers and not just 2 of them. According to the specs: 1 speaker->0.9% THD, 2 speakers->0.09%THD, 4 speakers-->???? (should that be lower?).

Many thanks for the eye opening information:)
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1492314/question-on-bi-amping
post #474 of 994
I just got the rx-v475 unit to replace my super old YSP soundbar that had no HDMI. Is it me or is the volume on this unit very low? I used the YPAO setup and have to put the unit at -25 volume level to get decent volume.

Another issue I have is with the ARC. I have a M series 70in Vizio and am trying to use the ARC to push the built in Netflix audio back to the receiver. It was working fine until I hooked up my laptop through HDMI to use as my HTPC. Now I can't get Netflix to push any sound. Only the Laptop has sound but that is connected to a hdmi port on the v475. The TV is only connected to the output HDMI of the v475. I tried unplugging the laptop and turning HDMI control/CEC on and off and no can't get sound through the ARC for Netflix on my Vizio. Anyone have any ideas to have this work seamlessly? PS, I'm using a harmony remote to start the activities and the ARC channel is set to AV4 default.
post #475 of 994
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post


There are no arbitrary values. If you have to bump up the Dialogue Level for movies that is OK. That us fairly common with home theater in a box systems like what you have. Use the "Dialogue Adjust" feature.

thanks bond, where can i find that dialogue adjust feature?

 

secondly i have connected  receiver to my d-link (mod+router) thro ethernet cable and all my android smart phone, Laptop & desktop connected thro wifi.
receiver has a ip address and net radio, update worked.
problem is icud not get it in my laptop r desktop r phone.
wen i type the receivers ip address the browser simply says cannot find....... am i missing something?

post #476 of 994
Hit the Option button on the remote to find the Dialogue Adjust feature.
post #477 of 994
Hi, a noob question. I recently had a yamaha avr rx v675 installed (paired with q acoustics q7000 5.1). I notice there is electricity leakage once the avr is switched on and get a shock when I touch metal components i.e settop box etc. I notice the avr isn't grounded and could cause this. Is this acceptable or should I be concerned given this electrical noise can impact other equipment be a safety issue? The dealer says this is due to grounding issue in the apartment but I am concerned since this is not noticeable until the avr is switched off. Could this be as simple as an overload? I only have the avr and sw connected to a power point (using a power extension cord) with the other equipment connected to a separate power point.

Appreciate your help and insight.
post #478 of 994
You say there is leakage when the AVR is on and you get shocked when you touch metal components but it is not noticeable until the AVR is switched off?
I dont remember exactly where its at but it seems,like,its near the FM antenna.
The AVR has a ground wire in the back that has to be hooked up during installation. Is it hooked up? See above.
post #479 of 994
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Originally Posted by audik75 View Post

Hi, a noob question. I recently had a yamaha avr rx v675 installed (paired with q acoustics q7000 5.1). I notice there is electricity leakage once the avr is switched on and get a shock when I touch metal components i.e settop box etc. I notice the avr isn't grounded and could cause this. Is this acceptable or should I be concerned given this electrical noise can impact other equipment be a safety issue? The dealer says this is due to grounding issue in the apartment but I am concerned since this is not noticeable until the avr is switched off. Could this be as simple as an overload? I only have the avr and sw connected to a power point (using a power extension cord) with the other equipment connected to a separate power point.

Appreciate your help and insight.

I just installed a 675 and there is no grounding lug. And I was surprised that there was only a two conductor/prong AC plug as I am seeing with a lot of this gear these day. They all use to have three prong plugs, but not so much anymore. The grounding lug that was spoken of is on the 775 and is for grounding a turntable and does not look like this hook up is on the US and Canadian models. In which case I would surmise that the 775 that does have the phono hook up would have a 3 pronged electrical plug to make the proper ground. Of which all these AVRs should. Unless it's a straight ground to the unit itself only to keep the phono cartridge from humming.

Even if there was a lug on the 675, with only a two pronged plug the unit would have no way of directly grounding electrically and it wouldn't matter if there was a grounding problem in your apt. And to ground that lug yourself is something that shouldn't need to be done these days and I would guess that the Fire Department would care for it either. Electronics are far more advanced than having to run your own ground is ridiculous. Anyway, you shouldn't be getting electrical transfer to other components that would shock you. You have a defective and potentially dangerous unit. Call Yamaha (714) 522-9105 Select option 5, Open 24 hours, great people, and discuss this with them. And tell your distributor that he's wrong, which if there was a grounding problem in your apt, you'd be getting bit by everything you touch, and for him to replace the unit.
post #480 of 994
Hello all, I have a Yamaha Htr-7065. When I am watching cable tv using a Motorola At&T U-Verse box and I go into the receivers menu and hit "info" is says dialouge at - 3db. Anyone know why this would be? I've checked all settings in the receiver and my center channel is set to 0. Thank you.

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