Just joined this forum because i found the discussion very helpful. Sorry for the long post, but I'm trying to figure something out and am hoping you all can help. (If this would be better posted in a different thread, please let me know.) I just bought a Yamaha V375 (in part based on the recommendation of The Wirecutter website)-- I have an Apple TV and didn't want/need the networking capabilities of the higher models.
I'm replacing a Sony STR-DE335 receiver, which I had been using since 1999 before it finally started regularly shorting out last month. I've been using just front LR bookshelves (JBL HLS610), which I also got in 1999 and which I always loved.
When I set up the Yamaha (and ran YPAO) I found that I wasn't getting the bass from the speakers that I had remembered getting from the old setup. To make sure I wasn't going crazy, I plugged the speakers and CD player back into the old Sony to do some quick side-by-side comparison, and sure enough, the Sony was definitely pumping out more bass-- especially when I used the "Bass Boost" button (a very '90s feature). I had become concerned I needed a subwoofer and that it was just my imagination that the old receiver sounded different, but it turns out that the Sony-- particularly with that "Bass Boost" engaged-- was cranking out pretty floor-shaking sounds, even though the speakers are "just" bookshelves.
I've run YPAO a couple times, I have the front speakers set to Large, I've messed around with the graphic equalizer, and the tone controls, but even with the tone control bass set to the 6.0 dB max, I'm not getting nearly as much bass as I was with the old system. (I'm not looking to replicate a subwoofer-- but I do want to feel the music.) And the fact is, I had the bass dial set at neutral on the old system-- on the Yamaha, I was maxing it out and it still wasn't as powerful.
It basically feels like the receiver wants to force me to use a subwoofer to get a fuller sound. I don't really have the space or budget to get a decent subwoofer right now, but more to the point, with the old receiver I was able to get plenty of bass just from the speakers I already have!
Any advice? I know the higher end V75 models have marginally more powerful amplifiers, but my understanding is that 10-20 watts wouldn't make a difference. Do modern receivers just want you to use a subwoofer to get deeper bass? I'd look towards a stereo amplifier, but I use it to watch TV and movies also, and I like the HDMI connectivity of the "modern" receivers. (With the old Sony I was running l/r stereo cables to and from my devices.)
Thanks for any advice!