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post #181 of 1751
I will be on the XBone. Like I said earlier 500 for an 8 yr investment is fairly minimal. 64 player is going to be awesome.
post #182 of 1751
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Originally Posted by jsacevedo View Post

I pre-ordered my PS4 and BF4 this morning. Spyder, I will be joining you.

Nexus, I wouldn't trust either company with my credit card, M$ won't let you remove the card without going through the tedious process of calling in and requesting it to be removed. My old card is still attached to my account, but it is expired. I could never remove it. I just buy money cards online and put the codes in. I will never trust either them again after Sony's network was hacked, seeing as how there are so many safer ways to get money for my console. I know amazon is online also, but I'd rather not have my credit card info on too many sites.

Yeah I made the mistake of putting my CC on Xbox way back when. Once I heard the problems people were having I just reported the card as lost and got a new one. F U Microsoft!! Have fun charging anything to that CC #. So much easier than trying to get them to remove it.
post #183 of 1751
Looks like me and orange on the XB1. I'll be joining MPH and Nexus on the PC side once in awhile.
post #184 of 1751
Myself, I need to see confirmation that console will have up to 64 players. Can anybody find this in writing?
post #185 of 1751
Its in the DICE BF4 press release.
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post #187 of 1751
Found it googeling, it's all over the news.
post #188 of 1751
I watched all of EA presentation at E3. They never specifically said 64 players on PS4 or XBone. I've not seen Sony or MS state this. I know BF4 will support 64 man like it did in BF3, for PC. EA also didn't mention 60 frames per second was going to be the case with BF4 on PS4 or XBone. Even that link to the preorder page is a little vague.

They of course could have specified these things at the reveal and E3, they didn't and that is why I am still confused.
post #189 of 1751
Its ok MPH. here you go straight from their website. 60 frames per second and 64 players

http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield-4/xbox-one
post #190 of 1751
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

Its in the DICE BF4 press release.

Guess I can't find this press release.
post #191 of 1751
Thread Starter 
glad to see some more guys coming over to PS3 so at least there will be some BF guys to play with!!
post #192 of 1751

I think I'm just going to preorder for the 360 and wait and see about the consoles. We'll see as we get closer.

Amazon did a vote on Facebook today and as of a few hours ago, the PS4 had 10x the number of votes as the X-Bone. Hmm...
post #193 of 1751
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

Guess I can't find this press release.

Sorry, I was told this is on the BF4 website:
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Take part in massive 64-player battles on next-gen platforms and PC, while 2 Commanders can join the fight to help turn the tide.

I guess there's wiggle room, but I take it at face value. There's nothing about the PS4 and XBone that should prevent 64 players this time around. small amounts of RAM was the problem last time.
post #194 of 1751
On Battlefield.com

post #195 of 1751
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Originally Posted by Kenshiro 26 View Post

On Battlefield.com


Thank you, I guess MPH ignored me. Thats ok I understand MPH.
post #196 of 1751
Thread Starter 
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/12/e3-2013-battlefield-4-commanding-armies-and-toppling-skyscrapers

amazing!!!


But the question on everyone's mind is: how do you make the building fall down?

As it turns out, it's not triggered by the progression of the match, like maps in Battlefield 3 such as Caspian Border. Instead, it's part of a new feature DICE is calling "Levelution," which triggers map-altering events based on actions taken by the player. In this particular instance, if players cause a certain level of damage to four of the building's load-bearing pillars on the ground level, it'll cause the whole thing to collapse. But the building's demise isn't only good for a grand spectacle — it drastically changes the conditions of the map.
post #197 of 1751
No I wasn't ignoring those links from you Lazy or Neo. Just stating that they left it somewhat vague. I mean basically they should be preaching this stuff at every moment they can, and exactly specifying what they are talking about. Obviously there is a reason they are not though. Maybe they just haven't gotten all their ducks in a row yet is what I am guessing. Take for example what they say on the preorder page:

"* Only in Battlefield will you find the awe-inspiring power of the next generation Frostbite™ 3 engine, delivering unmatched visual and audio fidelity, superior character animations and dynamic destruction running at a smooth 60 frames-per-second.

* Only in Battlefield can you experience an unmatched level of all-out war that grants you the freedom to play to your strengths and your own patch to victory with up to 64 players online.

* Only in Battlefield do you have the power to dominate land, air and sea with all-new, intense water-based vehicle combat on the Xbox One
."

They should specify on Xbox One after each bullet point as opposed to one and not the other. But honestly they should have specified it by now on a much larger stage / mass media outlet. Specified.

I guess what Tyrant mentioned is the most definitive line that I have seen so far...I found it here...bottom left side where the preorder link is: http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield-4/features/all-out-war

"Take part in massive 64-player battles on next-gen platforms and PC, while 2 Commanders can join the fight to help turn the tide."

No big deal, just think it is a little odd is all.
post #198 of 1751
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Originally Posted by Lord_Zath View Post


I think I'm just going to preorder for the 360 and wait and see about the consoles. We'll see as we get closer.

Amazon did a vote on Facebook today and as of a few hours ago, the PS4 had 10x the number of votes as the X-Bone. Hmm...

Thanks for the vid. I lol'ed hard! The votes don't shock me, as it's consistent with every other poll/article/forum I've read the past few days.

Hell, even on Battlelog itself, PC ran away with the votes, while the PS4 was second, the 360 was third, and the Xbone was dead last.
post #199 of 1751
So a friend asked me what commander mode is. I found these videos from BF2 and just had to share.

1. The right way to do it.

2. The wrong way.

IDK about you guys, but I can't wait for a stupid blueberry to take the most important role of the game wink.gif.

At least this shows some of why BF2 was so awesome.
post #200 of 1751
Squad count up to 5 in BF4!
post #201 of 1751
Unless the XB1 gets rid of all the BS DRM and makes it the same DRM model as the 360 I don't think I can get it out of principle. This is coming from someone who has stuck with Xbox since the original came out what 10 years ago?

If I had to choose today it would be PS4 but still not sure I will get it at launch time and might stick with 360 for a bit longer.
post #202 of 1751
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Originally Posted by lordxar5 View Post

Squad count up to 5 in BF4!

I saw that also but that doesnt make sense though. Its 64 players, 5 doesnt divide equally. Should of been 8 person squads, or leave it at 4 and allow 2/3 squads to form up.
post #203 of 1751
I'm really confused as to why some are getting the One over the PS4. Even if we ignore the DRM/online issues, it still doesn't make sense to me to pay $100 more for a severely gimped console. The PS4 uses GDDR5, while the One uses 3. Also, the One is said to always have at least 2 CPU cores and 3GB of memory "put away" for their media junk. Worst of all, the GPU of the One is equivalent to ancient $40 7760 video card, while the PS4 is somewhere between a 7850 and a 7970, which would cost around $200. It just doesn't make sense to me. Anyone care to explain why they'd pay 20% more for 50% less? confused.gif
post #204 of 1751
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Originally Posted by spyder696969 View Post

I'm really confused as to why some are getting the One over the PS4. Even if we ignore the DRM/online issues, it still doesn't make sense to me to pay $100 more for a severely gimped console. The PS4 uses GDDR5, while the One uses 3. Also, the One is said to always have at least 2 CPU cores and 3GB of memory "put away" for their media junk. Worst of all, the GPU of the One is equivalent to ancient $40 7760 video card, while the PS4 is somewhere between a 7850 and a 7970, which would cost around $200. It just doesn't make sense to me. Anyone care to explain why they'd pay 20% more for 50% less? confused.gif

In the end my decision will be made based on where most of my friends list is going. MP gaming is core for me so I won't sacrifice playing with those I want to play with in order to get that last bit of performance. And let's keep in mind that there have been no benchmarking of the consoles to establish the PS4 is going to offer 50% better performance, real world.
post #205 of 1751
You can always make new friends smile.gif

That said, I looked over to the Playstation area threads and found the BF4 thread. One post. Not looking very promising!
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post #207 of 1751
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Originally Posted by coyote_5 View Post

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Originally Posted by spyder696969 View Post

I'm really confused as to why some are getting the One over the PS4. Even if we ignore the DRM/online issues, it still doesn't make sense to me to pay $100 more for a severely gimped console. The PS4 uses GDDR5, while the One uses 3. Also, the One is said to always have at least 2 CPU cores and 3GB of memory "put away" for their media junk. Worst of all, the GPU of the One is equivalent to ancient $40 7760 video card, while the PS4 is somewhere between a 7850 and a 7970, which would cost around $200. It just doesn't make sense to me. Anyone care to explain why they'd pay 20% more for 50% less? confused.gif

In the end my decision will be made based on where most of my friends list is going. MP gaming is core for me so I won't sacrifice playing with those I want to play with in order to get that last bit of performance. And let's keep in mind that there have been no benchmarking of the consoles to establish the PS4 is going to offer 50% better performance, real world.

PS3 was supposed to be some massively awesome hardware that was faaaar better than 360...games look pretty much the same as the 360 in the end. So yea you got to see real world use. And I would doubt that multiplat games will look any different or actually use anything extra that is available. Only thing PS4 potentially has going for it with better specs is exclusives.

An argument for the xbone is that its native Microsoft which developers are used to plus standard PC hardware. PS4 has standard hardware but a new OS. Sony's stop into oddball processors set them back a bit I think. So PS4 is all new and not just a stepped up PS3 that devs are now finally used to. Probably won't matter on any of it in the long run though. All the games are going to look about the same for both consoles just like they do now.

If I were to buy a next gen console its definitely going to be based on friends list. If enough people were on PS4 and I decided to buy a console I'd probably steer that way. Aside from improved graphics there is zero need to replace current gen media centers ie consoles. I see my money better spent on PC hardware but I tend to cycle back and forth from console to PC anyway. Plus I've bought more than one of each PS3 and Xbox and am sick of spending money on consoles. Seriously, why can't our hardware last? My PS1 & PS2 can still be plugged in and used to this day. How old are they?

Maybe that is the bad taste in my mouth and why I don't care about consoles. I've had to buy more than one of both the PS3 and 360 because of shyt hardware. Its not been years outside of memory. No it was last year or mayb late the year before so its still really fresh that I dropped $800. Just bought a surround sound headset...got to buy a new one if I get any new console. PS has free online...nope paid now. So just not any compelling force for either console in my mind.
post #208 of 1751
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Lord_Zath View Post

You can always make new friends smile.gif

That said, I looked over to the Playstation area threads and found the BF4 thread. One post. Not looking very promising!

don't worry, we are still posting in this thread, but will be migrating when the PS4 comes out!
post #209 of 1751
Remember, the publishers have yet to say anything about the DRM strategies. EA is doing away with the pass, and are releasing BF4 DLC first on XBONE. I just have this feeling that the big pubs will implement something on the PS4. I just can't see this as MS only. The pub's have been very silent thus far.
post #210 of 1751
I agree with Nexus. Aside from exclusives the publishers will make the exact same game for both systems. They will both and play identical. PS3 and 360 look identical to me on the multiplatform games so I am not expecting any big jump.

For me I will own both systems, but I wont own BF4 or any other multiplatform game for both systems. I already plan on owning BF4 for the PC and XB1 and I will have more friends on XB1. I am at 14 confirmed and I only have 36 friends on live so safe to say the majority will be there.


Also for the people that want to take advantage of any xbox point deals for this year, I would do it. Xbox is phasing out the points starting in 2014 to local currency. The way they will handle it though is by giving you equal or greater value for the points you have. Yet another reason why I will play BF4 on the XB1. It will be very cheap for me to play the game. I know Spyder has tons of points and I just scored at a local store that was closing shop, 20k points for $120. So that means Xbox would transfer that to at least $250. Just another thing to think about when deciding. Dont make me find new friends, I hate most of the blueberries that play.


Spyder - you could most likely buy every single exclusive for dollars on the first day for XB1.
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