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post #31 of 1755
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

I had no idea that could be done. Is it fairly easy or do I need to know a name and/or type in a path?
How much is the premium edition and what does it have? I'm looking for something (FPS) to get into between now and Nov and am about done with blops.
The premium normally goes for $60, so you would get it for $35. I believe it came will all or at least a bunch of DLC, but I am not 100% sure. You'd have to ask some the of the regulars in this thread.
post #32 of 1755
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Originally Posted by americangunner View Post

The premium normally goes for $60, so you would get it for $35. I believe it came will all or at least a bunch of DLC, but I am not 100% sure. You'd have to ask some the of the regulars in this thread.

You will have access to all the DLC as a premium member. Just download the maps in game vs the xbox live store. Also make sure to have plenty of hard drive space. Looking at under 20Gb in space for BF3.

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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

I had no idea that could be done. Is it fairly easy or do I need to know a name and/or type in a path?


Its fairly easy. I can add you as an admin and you can just change the map to a jet map, then join and fly around. You can add a password to play alone or just drop the tickets to like 10%, dropping that low will help avoid the quick match players.

You can also do what HSV mentioned. I also agree with watching some of Zaths videos, he offers some very helpful pointers.
post #33 of 1755
Thanks for all the feedback guys. I'll check the tube for some videos and may jump into this. I liked the gun on gun play with the game but when I tried to play other modes similar to domination the maps were so massive and everyone was in vehicle it was impossible to try and play it Halo BTB style so I bailed on it. Thanks again for the info!
post #34 of 1755
Question that is indirectly related to bf4. Concerning a PC. About how much cheaper is building a PC rather than buying an equivalent spec one already built from a company like dell? Just doing some initial planning in case bf4 release doesn't line up with nextgen consoles. Last computer I built many years ago probably had a 16MB video card lol. I've been checking out toms hardware for some budget gaming PC builds and wondered if it would just be better to buy a a low end alienware or something similar.
post #35 of 1755
Build one...cheaper and you can pick your components. Lot of gimping with pre-built PCs...not to mention a lot of them leave little or no expansion opportunity. I built one a couple summers ago and can help if you have any questions.
post #36 of 1755
What harp said trail. Def better to at least pick up a barebones and fill it out than prebuilt. Especially if you've built one before. After you've got the motherboard in the case its just plugging stuff in.
post #37 of 1755
So I guess I missed the news this past week. Apparently on a microsoft blog the release date for BF4 was accidentally mentioned and then later deleted by microsoft. The apparent accidental leak said October 29, 2013.

He is a link I managed to find that talked about it. (I originally heard about while watching a video that wasn't necessarily based off of that info.)

http://www.geek.com/games/official-xbox-blog-reveals-battlefield-4-release-date-1550621/
post #38 of 1755
Regarding building your own or getting a company created...

I've done both. While it can be cheaper and more rewarding building your own computer, some components just don't work well together. I had a Gigabyte motherboard once that was SLI enabled. Though it never worked right. If I connected it to my TV, the graphics card would not send out a signal to both monitor and TV. I tried replacing the card via warranty, and same problem. I took it to a friend's who had a different mobo, and the card output the signal no problem. Clearly it was the Gigabyte mobo. Time and again i'd contact their tech support. I had the mobo replaced twice. The issue was never resolved, so I had to decide between spending another $249 or just dealing with it.

I've found that a prebuilt Dell/whatever plus a good graphics card and some more RAM is more than enough. One thing to consider is that typically large companies like Dell have components specifically built for them, so there's a better chance that they will work together. Plus if one component fails, I just have one place to call. That said, it's hard to spend $1000 on a pc and then more to upgrade its components.

If I were to buy a PC tomorrow, and plan on spending around $1k, it'd probably be something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Republic-Gamers-G55VW-DH71-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B009AEW5HI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1365360176&sr=8-2&keywords=asus+g55vw#productDetails

Throw in a good SSD, and you're done. I'm on a G73 right now and Battlefield 3 runs fine. Everything isn't maxed out, but I don't care - it's still far superior to the xbox. Plus I get the added portability of a laptop (mine is 17" and I think a 15" would be nicer for the portability, though I love the screen size of the 17"). An HDMI cable is all I need to hook up this beast to my AV receiver for 7.2 surround audio and my 1080p projector. xbox 360 usb controller takes care of gaming. USB or bluetooth mouse/keyboard also if needed.
post #39 of 1755
Cool...thanks for the input. I think I'm going to wait and see what's up with release dates of bf4 and next gen consoles and see what a lot of you guys are going to do. No matter PC or console its going to suck for me unless you guys are playing also. Im almost at my limit playing with randoms in multi. If I do end up going the PC build route I plan on getting exactly what one of the toms hardware builds spec out and what they benchmark.
post #40 of 1755
The trailer in 60fps:

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/battlefield-4-17-minutes-at-60fps-video-hd

Looks pretty sweet at that frame rate, although the bitrate on the video isnt nearly enough to do it justice. I'm gonna be crazy disappointed if they go with 30fps on the consoles again.

As far as buying vs building a PC.....there are some PCs out there that get very, very close to the price you'd pay if you built it yourself. This one particularly caught my eye:

http://www.ibuypower.com/Info/Revolt/customize.aspx

I built a PC very close to the midrange model there a few weeks ago, as long as you factor in the $99 for the OS....it's within $100 of what I paid, for basically the same thing. That's definitely worth it for someone inexperienced who isnt prepared to be their own tech support. Or for the really lazy. I take too much pride in my build to let someone else do it for me....but you're not going to get completely hosed on a prebuilt nowadays. Just make sure if youre buying a gaming PC, you buy it from a vendor that specializes in gaming PCs. On those "gaming PCs" Dell puts out, far too often they have an underpowered graphics card or too little RAM. You still need to do your research.
post #41 of 1755
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Originally Posted by hsv View Post

Cool...thanks for the input. I think I'm going to wait and see what's up with release dates of bf4 and next gen consoles and see what a lot of you guys are going to do. No matter PC or console its going to suck for me unless you guys are playing also. Im almost at my limit playing with randoms in multi. If I do end up going the PC build route I plan on getting exactly what one of the toms hardware builds spec out and what they benchmark.

This is pretty much it for me on Xbox vs Next Xbox... Though I'm retired from PC gaming since I started working in IT, enough to be in front of computer 8 hours a day... for me can't beat big screen TV, surround sound + couch.
post #42 of 1755
I'll probably pick it up on both pc and nextbox. It would be nice if they actually started some cross-platform deals or allowed your progress (or part of it) to go towards the other platform at the same time. /pipedream.

Trail if you are worried about parts being compatible the ram/mobo is pretty much it. As long as you get a CPU that is socketed for that motherboard it'll be fine. Past that both the RAM manufacturer and the MOBO manufacturer have compatibility spreadsheets on their websites that go in depth (down to the exact item PID usually) to what will work with what. It may seem like a lot but it really isn't. Find what ram or mobo is on sale. Check their compatibility list against the list of others on sale and you are good to go. This of course takes into account if you want a budget board or one that would allow you to possibly sli or xfire video cards without being handicapped. I really haven't looked at too many boards lately but it is muchmuch easier now than it was even 5-6 years ago. So much more info out there.
post #43 of 1755
I can imagine them allowing 360 vs next Xbox players. it's all in the same ecosystem, and it's the same controller style. But put PC gamers in the mix would upset the balance. PC gamers would rape the console gamers. you just can't match the accuracy of KBM. autoaiming has helped consoles immensely this gen (remember what FPS games were like on the Xbox1?).
post #44 of 1755
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Originally Posted by onlysublime View Post

I can imagine them allowing 360 vs next Xbox players. it's all in the same ecosystem, and it's the same controller style. But put PC gamers in the mix would upset the balance. PC gamers would rape the console gamers. you just can't match the accuracy of KBM. autoaiming has helped consoles immensely this gen (remember what FPS games were like on the Xbox1?).
This is so true. I have heard people say "It would be so cool to play with PC gamers", but I don't think those people know how much of a massacre it would be.
post #45 of 1755
I did just fine on PC with my 360 controller... in a JET! tongue.gif
post #46 of 1755
I don't think it'd be that bad in a game like BF. No one is circle strafing, rocket jumping or bouncing off the walls. I played some Crysis 3 on PC with a controller, and it was prob holding me back a little bit, but I was doing fine. It helps to use low recoil weapons, cause its much harder to compensate for it on a controller.
post #47 of 1755

I've been thinking about building a computer and have been watching a lot of videos. I found this series to be helpful.
post #48 of 1755
Guess I should check on new posts more often. Need to preorder. Guy at work said best buy had the standard preorder plus another dlc but I haven't looked inhibit yet.
post #49 of 1755
I preordered at amazon. doesn't cost a dime until it ships, if there's any promos from now till then, they get applied to my order, and there's no tax and free shipping. I'd need to wait a few days to play, but after my BF3 non-premium experience, I'm used to waiting!
post #50 of 1755
Zath, what system did you order for?
post #51 of 1755
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Originally Posted by hsv View Post

Zath, what system did you order for?


I ordered the Xbox version through Amazon and the PC Deluxe one through origin. I had $20 credit through origin so I went for the deluxe. Most likely not worth the extra $10 for the deluxe but time will tell. I do plan on building a PC before it gets released so I decided to go for both.
post #52 of 1755
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Originally Posted by hsv View Post

Zath, what system did you order for?

xbox 360. that could always change but it's no biggie!
post #53 of 1755
Got a preorder in for PC. I may change it later depending how things go. Not sure if I want to wear the dogtags around though, I'm scared someone may try and take them smile.gif
post #54 of 1755
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Originally Posted by emartins View Post

MPH - yes you can order from Amazon can cancel whenever you want. They dont charge till it ships. When I preordered they sent me a code to enter into a bf4 website. When I did the site told me something like the unlock or code will be activated when you first play bf4. So most likely its the expansion pack code. I could cancel right now and I would still have the expansion pack as its now attached to my origin account. Amazon does this quite often actually, I am assuming they pay nothing for these codes. So if a better deal pops up I will be switching somewhere else.

Good to know, heading over to amazon to pre-order now.
post #55 of 1755
strange as I don't recall getting a code. I'll have to check when I get home.
post #56 of 1755
For anyone currently on the borderline of thinking about upgrading a computer or building soon Newegg has the MSI R7850 Twin frozr 2g card for $170 (after $20 rebate) and still included Infinite, Tomb Raider, and Far Cry blood dragon.
post #57 of 1755
http://www.playonscripts.com/?w=view&id=782

Commander mode coming to B4 plus 3 factions. Least that is a new rumor. Most likely it would be only two factions on a map but it would be awesome to have three I think.
post #58 of 1755
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Originally Posted by lordxar5 View Post

http://www.playonscripts.com/?w=view&id=782

Commander mode coming to B4 plus 3 factions. Least that is a new rumor. Most likely it would be only two factions on a map but it would be awesome to have three I think.

http://mp1st.com/2013/04/14/battlefield-4-rumor-gamestop-poster-suggests-the-return-of-commander-mode-and-three-playable-factions/

Wrong link before. Don't know what happened on that last one.
post #59 of 1755
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Originally Posted by lordxar5 View Post

http://mp1st.com/2013/04/14/battlefield-4-rumor-gamestop-poster-suggests-the-return-of-commander-mode-and-three-playable-factions/

Wrong link before. Don't know what happened on that last one.

Having a good Commander was key to winning in BF2. Hope its back, and done correctly.
post #60 of 1755
Thread Starter 
i like this response!!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/16/battlefield-4-wont-include-motion-control

“We are not interested in things that don’t make the game better,” Bach told Edge. “There are a lot of gimmicks – people throwing money at us – ‘can you implement support for this quirky control thing?’ No, it doesn’t make the game better.”

Bach added that the studio is “extremely open to innovation, but if it’s a gimmick, there’s no point unless it adds value to the player. Touch screens used to be a gimmick, because no one could get it to work until iPhone came out and used it right. It adds to the experience, and now everyone is doing it. To us it’s the same with motion control and perceptual gaming in general; if it adds, great. If it’s a gimmick, ignore it.”
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