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post #991 of 1755
America vs Europe (XB1 footage)

America
Europe:
post #992 of 1755
Live feed here:

http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield-4/showdown
post #993 of 1755
during the live event some DICE dev confirmed Kinect integration.

Voice commands

Lean function, self explanatory.

Head tracking confirmed, although he made it sound like it is only active when in a vehicle, still pretty awesome. This might be the deal maker for me, this should make flying and driving much more fun, hopefully.....
post #994 of 1755
I sent out a challenge to a couple of you guys in this thread. It was a squad point challenge I believe. I just wanted to see what they were all about. I started adding some names in this thread, but some of you on the list didn't show having BF4 (for 360), so I didn't add yet.
post #995 of 1755
I know the fanwars between the BF crowd and the CoD crowd. I've always like the CoD series because of the fast responsive controls and the fast action. The new BF4 seems to be a big improvement over BF3. So I might switch to BF4. But I still read that BF4 is still a more measured pace than CoD. I feel like the CoD campaign would be better and it has more co-op modes than BF4 (I'm more into playing with friends than being competitive). Has BF4 changed things enough to make me switch? I read the story campaign is still not that great. I really only do one straight-up military shooter. Then I add other sci-fi shooters around it (like Halo, Gears of War, etc.).

I've seen CoD Ghosts at its best on the PC and it still doesn't look that good to be honest. But it's what most people I know play and I don't know if that's going to change. But again, the bottom line is the gameplay and CoD always seems to play like CoD. I think infinity Ward has been living off the legacy of CoD too long rather than innovating. But I see how it can be hard to change when you've been doing well for so long (CoD, Apple products, etc.).

I'd especially value the opinions of people who love BOTH series (if that's possible considering how the two groups are pretty distinct).
post #996 of 1755
I've not played COD at all basically. I own MW3, but at the time my wife gave it too me, I had been playing BF3 for a couple months. I personally like the infantry vs infantry gunplay better in BF3. It just seemed more dynamic in every way conceivable. The gunplay can just be so, so good. I know many feel that the gunplay alone is better, especially at the same frames per second.

But then Battlefield has the vehicles.

But if there were no vehicles, I would still prefer Battlefield, from what limited experience I had with MW3 and then watching videos of COD. I really like the fps aspects of BF3, but I am having to adjust significantly with BF4. I've read where people think it seems like they leaned more towards the COD style of shooting in BF4 vs BF3. I think it kind of looks that way with BF4 a little more than it did previously based on watching the style of COD gameplay in videos, but whether there is truth to this claim, idk. So there's that.

Honestly, going from COD to BF, might be more difficult than ever with Next Gen and it's larger player count servers. It just seems like there is always someone to back rage you or you pop over a hill and all you see is the enemy...everywhere. Plus there are just so many vehicles, that I imagine it can be very overwhelming for someone new to the series.

Having said that, I personally think it is crazy for people to keep playing COD after COD without trying Battlefield. BF3 was such a good game. I'm not sure if BF4 will reach that same plateau that I feel BF3 went to, but it's just hard to tell right now with everything being so different. But all while playing BF3 I kept seeing PC games with those 64 man servers and I was completely jealous because there was just no down time...just constant action. Well that is definitely the case with BF4, but I wonder if they went a little too overboard with some things. I think I agree with others in that it is just all so new that it is just a little chaotic until I learn how to deal with it in which ever way I choose to deal with it...lol. There are just so many options as far as trying to win a match. It is not just about kdr, if you are indeed in the match to win.

Also, I think Dice may have made infantry stronger against vehicles than in the past which would help a newcomer. For example everyone starts out with a rocket that kind of locks on to any vehicle if you are close enough, as well as vehicles are always running out of ammo, left there with targets but nothing to shoot them with. I personally, do not agree with this, but oh well.

Dice, to me, builds absolutely incredible maps. I think coming over just to play these beautiful maps is reason enough to play it over COD. BF4 maps are pretty darn good. Hopefully the ones they release over time will be just as good if not better.

When you get enough seat time, vehicles can become very fun. Tanks are an absolute blast. I really fell into liking the Attack Helicopters in BF3. In BF4 the Attack Boats are my favorite vehicles. Some people like the Jets, but they are probably the most difficult thing to master in the game.

All in all, I'm probably 50/50 on liking the game more for infantry gunplay or vehicle gameplay. I just think I like them equally. Others just prefer vehicles only. I think what a lot of people end up doing is really liking 1-2 different types of vehicles when they are not on foot. I absolutely loved the fps gunplay of BF3. I would have been blown away with just that. There are just epic, epic battles to be had with large groups going at it both head to head and flanking all in one map most of the time. If you play and communicate with friends, you are at a large advantage usually.

I think Dice does a great job of catering to any crowd. They have all different types of game modes. It just really depends on what kind of mood you are in, and what you or your friends feel like playing. A lot of times someone will decide to start playing a certain mode by himself, and next thing you know you have a whole party that has joined off him and that is what you end up playing for the night.

The surround sound is very good as well. Along with that I would mention the audio cues are excellent as well.

I think if a person likes multiplayer first person shooter games and they don't give Battlefield a good long try, then I think they are doing themselves a disservice or something. I truly do feel that way. Like it blows my mind that there is a whole community that only plays COD and just won't consider Battlefield.

BF3 was just an excellent game.

But like I said, I really don't play the COD games. But I did try, and honestly I surprisingly did fairly well the matches I did play (thanks to having played BF3 and their similarities).

If you are looking for random videos of the Battlefield, I would suggest YouTuber LevelCap. He seems to be the best source for all things Battlefield games related. He has been doing this for right at 2 years I think. He is actually very educational, whether you are new to the game or a long time player...http://www.youtube.com/user/LevelCapGaming
post #997 of 1755
^ pretty much what mph said. I was a strictly COD guy from the birth of the 360 with COD 2 thru MW2. I started getting frustrated and annoyed with MW2 and decided to try out BF bad company 2. It was definitely a slight learning curve but once I figured out how everything worked, I was hooked. The destructible environments really hooked me as well as the vehicle play, especially in BF3. Since the switch I have logged way too many hours playing BF3 and cannot wait to sink my teeth into next gen Bf4. I have a buddy who did the same thing, a strict CoD player but I told him to give BF3 a chance, he bitched and whined for the first few days but then he never looked back.

I tried to play a few rounds of MW3 about a year ago and couldn't get into it. Do yourself a favor and give BF4 a good 1-2 day trial, you won't regret it.
post #998 of 1755
I love both games. They're really not all that comparable in style. Both military shooters, but that's where it ends. I get a different type of fun from each. I'm glad they're a little different. Double the fun, right? BTW, this thing has locked up my 360 AT LEAST once every time I play it...
post #999 of 1755
@mphfrom77 do you have some cliff notes of that post you made?
post #1000 of 1755
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Originally Posted by Robbo View Post

HoosierInOhio - PST - 360/XBONE
oktober rust - EST - 360/XBONE
Remowilliams84 -cst- 360/one
General PATT0N
xxx shiv xxx - EST - XBONE
Hondeboyman - PST - XBONE
Quicksilver1663 - EST
Rotoman - CST - XBONE
TheRealMaxPower - EST - XBONE
RandomNinjaAtk - EST - XBONE
Robbo67 - EST 360/XBONE


Picking up 360 version tonight, will be playing online tomorrow night.

Please add my name to the list. I have B4 for 360 and plan on getting for XOne as well.

xX ShadowAxx Xx
post #1001 of 1755
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Originally Posted by Robbo View Post

HoosierInOhio - PST - 360/XBONE
oktober rust - EST - 360/XBONE
Remowilliams84 -cst- 360/one
General PATT0N
xxx shiv xxx - EST - XBONE
Hondeboyman - PST - XBONE
Quicksilver1663 - EST
Rotoman - CST - XBONE
TheRealMaxPower - EST - XBONE
RandomNinjaAtk - EST - XBONE
Robbo67 - EST 360/XBONE


Picking up 360 version tonight, will be playing online tomorrow night.

Please add my name to the list. I have B4 for 360 and plan on getting for XOne as well.

xX ShadowAxx Xx

I'll have the 360 version til the One comes out, MST.
post #1002 of 1755
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Originally Posted by emartins View Post

@mphfrom77 do you have some cliff notes of that post you made?
LOL
post #1003 of 1755
HoosierInOhio - PST - 360/XBONE
oktober rust - EST - 360/XBONE
Remowilliams84 -cst- 360/one
General PATT0N
xxx shiv xxx - EST - XBONE
Hondeboyman - PST - XBONE
Quicksilver1663 - EST
Rotoman - CST - XBONE
TheRealMaxPower - EST - XBONE
RandomNinjaAtk - EST - XBONE
Robbo67 - EST 360/XBONE
xX ShadowAxx Xx
Pegdragger1 - EST - XBONE

Going in cold with BF4 and new xbox...excited like a little kid...hehehe biggrin.gif
post #1004 of 1755
HoosierInOhio - PST - 360/XBONE
oktober rust - EST - 360/XBONE
Remowilliams84 -cst- 360/one
General PATT0N
xxx shiv xxx - EST - 360/XBONE
Hondeboyman - PST - XBONE
Quicksilver1663 - EST
Rotoman - CST - XBONE
TheRealMaxPower - EST - XBONE
RandomNinjaAtk - EST - XBONE
Robbo67 - EST 360/XBONE
xX ShadowAxx Xx
Pegdragger1 - EST - XBONE

Added 360 to mine. Broke down and got it today to hold me over til PS4/ XB1, whenever I can decide on which one for sure.
post #1005 of 1755
Enjoying the game but I think it's too much for the 360 to handle. My xbox has frozen on me (while playing BF4) about once per day.
post #1006 of 1755
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Originally Posted by Budracin8 View Post

Enjoying the game but I think it's too much for the 360 to handle. My xbox has frozen on me (while playing BF4) about once per day.

it's freezing a lot on every platform including PC. EA really needs to patch the game.

Since there's no bonus for getting BF4 early (but there is for COD), I think I'll start off with COD and get BF4 down the road. BF4 does look amazing and it's why I'm even contemplating getting it. I'm more into co-op and story campaign than straight up MP which favors COD.

Anyway, all of it becomes moot when Titanfall drops. tongue.gif
post #1007 of 1755
I was referencing the xbox freezing completely. No buttons work, can't exit to dashboard, nothing. Then there is server losing connection and getting kicked to main game menu. I have also had gameplay freeze but can get to dashboard. The server freezing is definitely EA but the xbox freezing I would assume is either OLD xbox or the game taxes it too much.

Despite that when it's working its fun. Beat campaign the other day and thought it was fun too. Much more fun than Battlefield 3's campaign plus there were more opportunities for you to play the level the way you wanted and not simply go down a one-way path.

64 players will be awesome! I honestly think the xbone screen caps look better than PS4 but that's another discussion for another thread. Just think that's prudent to wait a few months to see how the next gen systems shake out before I shell out 600 bucks.
post #1008 of 1755
I was reading Arstechnica today and saw Peter Bright writing another splendid article... but this time it was on Battlefield 4... for those that don't know Peter Bright, he's an incredible writer on tech and writes immaculately detailed articles. But you never imagine him writing about gaming. Surprisingly, his Battlefield article has a lot more detail than many gaming articles. so check it out...

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/11/battlefield-4-the-brutal-broken-beautiful-pinnacle-of-first-person-shooters/

It helped me a lot because he didn't talk use typical verbiage aimed at diehard BF fans and doesn't throw out acronyms, abbreviations, and slang that only BF or military shooters can understand.
post #1009 of 1755
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Originally Posted by Budracin8 View Post

I was referencing the xbox freezing completely. No buttons work, can't exit to dashboard, nothing. Then there is server losing connection and getting kicked to main game menu. I have also had gameplay freeze but can get to dashboard. The server freezing is definitely EA but the xbox freezing I would assume is either OLD xbox or the game taxes it too much.

Despite that when it's working its fun. Beat campaign the other day and thought it was fun too. Much more fun than Battlefield 3's campaign plus there were more opportunities for you to play the level the way you wanted and not simply go down a one-way path.

64 players will be awesome! I honestly think the xbone screen caps look better than PS4 but that's another discussion for another thread. Just think that's prudent to wait a few months to see how the next gen systems shake out before I shell out 600 bucks.

Yep. Same here, every time w/o exception. In defense, they were some marathon sessions this wknd...
post #1010 of 1755
Had (6) crashes tonight after a couple of multi hour conquest sessions. XBOX sounds like it's running very fast.

It was nice to see many AVS-ECA tonight. I look forward to grouping up for some better team tactics.
post #1011 of 1755
HoosierInOhio - PST - 360/XBONE
oktober rust - EST - 360/XBONE
Remowilliams84 -cst- 360/one
General PATT0N
xxx shiv xxx - EST - 360/XBONE
Hondeboyman - PST - XBONE
Quicksilver1663 - EST
Rotoman - CST - XBONE
TheRealMaxPower - EST - XBONE
RandomNinjaAtk - EST - XBONE
Robbo67 - EST 360/XBONE
xX ShadowAxx Xx
Pegdragger1 - EST - XBONE
Budracin88 - EST - 360/XBONE
post #1012 of 1755
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Originally Posted by Budracin8 View Post

Enjoying the game but I think it's too much for the 360 to handle. My xbox has frozen on me (while playing BF4) about once per day.

Had it freeze 4 times on me yesterday. Patch can't come soon enough, or the XB1 biggrin.gif
post #1013 of 1755
HoosierInOhio - PST - 360/XBONE
oktober rust - EST - 360/XBONE
Remowilliams84 -cst- 360/one
General PATT0N
xxx shiv xxx - EST - 360/XBONE
Hondeboyman - PST - XBONE
Quicksilver1663 - EST
Rotoman - CST - XBONE
TheRealMaxPower - EST - XBONE
RandomNinjaAtk - EST - XBONE
Robbo67 - EST 360/XBONE
xX ShadowAxx Xx
Pegdragger1 - EST - XBONE
Budracin88 - EST - 360/XBONE
TheLizardKingII - EST - 360/XB1
post #1014 of 1755
This is probably a dumb question, but I'll ask it anyway. I've unlocked a couple of the 25% and 50% xp bones in my battle packs, but I can't figure out how to activate them. If they are activated automatically, I don't see any indication of it.

Anyone know how to activate?
post #1015 of 1755
If when you kill someone you see 100 pts then 25 pts, its activated. As to 'how' to activate...its in the game menu when you're in a match.
post #1016 of 1755
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Originally Posted by Rotoman View Post

If when you kill someone you see 100 pts then 25 pts, its activated. As to 'how' to activate...its in the game menu when you're in a match.

I looked there, but didn't see it. Guess I'll have to look again. I've never understood why dice won't let you do this kind of stuff as well as set up your kits while in the main menu rather than in game.
post #1017 of 1755
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I looked there, but didn't see it. Guess I'll have to look again. I've never understood why dice won't let you do this kind of stuff as well as set up your kits while in the main menu rather than in game.

I have several but they seemed to disappear effective yesterday. There was no option to use them. I used one on Saturday night, then they were gone yesterday. Maybe some kind of update DICE did? I also agree I don't understand why you can't change your kits from the main menu, you could in BF3. They tout doing it on a phone or tablet via battlelog but they battleog runs like $hit on my phone.
post #1018 of 1755
Just so you guys know, the crashes and freezing is happening on PS3 also, it's actually how I've determined "last game of the night" for 3 nights in a row :-/
post #1019 of 1755
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Originally Posted by Cravit8 View Post

Just so you guys know, the crashes and freezing is happening on PS3 also, it's actually how I've determined "last game of the night" for 3 nights in a row :-/

Not a single freeze for me on the PS3.
post #1020 of 1755
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Originally Posted by RemoWilliams84 View Post

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Originally Posted by Rotoman View Post

If when you kill someone you see 100 pts then 25 pts, its activated. As to 'how' to activate...its in the game menu when you're in a match.

I looked there, but didn't see it. Guess I'll have to look again. I've never understood why dice won't let you do this kind of stuff as well as set up your kits while in the main menu rather than in game.

I believe it's on the lower right in the game menu stating "boosts available" or something like that. BTW, this game is hella fun. Ez to rank up playing domination, w/everyone being so close to each other. The AEK at 900rpm w/ handle, muzzle brake, and laser sight in full auto w/ has very little recoil. I was killing people at very long range w/ it using just a KOBRA sight.
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