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post #31 of 178
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Saw it today. Certainly a huge step up from Origins and X3, but this could have been truly great. There are some plot holes that seemed rather obvious to me. It was clear from the first trailer just who the Silver Samurai would turn out to be (and what his plan was). The female villain was lame and under developed.
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And no doubt they should not have gone soft and made Yukio a good girl. In the Wolverine mini-series she turned out to be a little c***

One of my big issues was Famke Jansen being unnecessary after her first appearance. Logan's continuing to pine over her actually took away from his relationship with Mariko and that pretty much guaranteed there would be no real emotional connection between them. The audience doesn't really quite care and that is a shame. Mariko was Logan's great love in the X-men comic books.

Jackman may be too tall for the part, but he is just so damned awesome it has never mattered. He IS Wolverine at this point.

The mid-credits bonus scene was very cool.

Again, a good film. It has flaws, but I enjoyed it far more than any other film I have seen this summer. A shame it's under performing in the U.S.
post #32 of 178
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One of my big issues was Famke Jansen being unnecessary after her first appearance. Logan's continuing to pine over her actually took away from his relationship with Mariko and that pretty much guaranteed there would be no real emotional connection between them. The audience doesn't really quite care and that is a shame. Mariko was Logan's great love in the X-men comic books.

I haven't read the comics I didn't know that. In the film, I thought Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
once he let Jean go he could find love again with Mariko. But you're right perhaps it was unnecessary, since it was just reminding us that Jean is/was the only true love of his life. But I thought something was happening between him and Mariko nonetheless, and the ending is left open regarding their future.

It was like you said a great improvement compared to Origins, and at last, we get to see blood on the claws!!! wink.gif I enjoyed the film quite much, in fact it made me want to watch the other X-Men films right after the credits... That wasn't the case with Origins that's for sure. So I guess that was a good sign.

I also agree about the female villain, but she was kinda hot. tongue.gif And while we're on the female side of things, Tao Okamoto is one sweet little hottie!

Anyway I liked it, and the post credits scene is an awesome teaser of what's to come. I hope the movie will have legs, it deserves it.
post #33 of 178
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I also agree about the female villain, but she was kinda hot. tongue.gif And while we're on the female side of things, Tao Okamoto is one sweet little hottie!
You, sir, will get no argument from me on those fine points. biggrin.gif
post #34 of 178
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A shame it's under performing in the U.S.
Entirely predictable.
The first film was so lame, it was inevitable this would happen.
This movie should never have been greenlighted until a lot of time had passed and people had forgotten.
post #35 of 178
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Entirely predictable.
The first film was so lame, it was inevitable this would happen.
This movie should never have been greenlighted until a lot of time had passed and people had forgotten.

True story
post #36 of 178
Hugh Jackman is a good actor and a very good imagining of Wolverine. However, if I had my druthers, it would be Jackie Earle Haley for Wolverine. He has a better voice for the part, and the way he played Rorschach...aww man I'd love to see him put the claws on! He can put on more muscle, and his height would work much better. He'd be a perfect Wolvie, and leagues beyond Hugh. Especially if put in a more gritty Wolverine movie.
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Hugh Jackman is a good actor and a very good imagining of Wolverine. However, if I had my druthers, it would be Jackie Earle Haley for Wolverine. He has a better voice for the part, and the way he played Rorschach...aww man I'd love to see him put the claws on! He can put on more muscle, and his height would work much better. He'd be a perfect Wolvie, and leagues beyond Hugh. Especially if put in a more gritty Wolverine movie.

I can totally see that! Loved him in Watchmen. But like Matt says above, Hugh owns this role now. And I as I mentioned even further above, he loves it - and passion for a physical role like this translates to the performance on the screen.
post #38 of 178
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I can totally see that! Loved him in Watchmen. But like Matt says above, Hugh owns this role now. And I as I mentioned even further above, he loves it - and passion for a physical role like this translates to the performance on the screen.

Exactly, and it shows on screen. It's a delight to watch him play that character, and dare I say, even in Origins, overall quality of the movie aside.
post #39 of 178
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Entirely predictable.
The first film was so lame, it was inevitable this would happen.
This movie should never have been greenlighted until a lot of time had passed and people had forgotten.

Agree 100%
post #40 of 178
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Entirely predictable.
The first film was so lame, it was inevitable this would happen.
This movie should never have been greenlighted until a lot of time had passed and people had forgotten.
Yes! Where the hell is the Phoenix or someone else that has not been done to death and badly?
post #41 of 178
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Entirely predictable.
The first film was so lame, it was inevitable this would happen.
This movie should never have been greenlighted until a lot of time had passed and people had forgotten.
Unfortunately, the quality of a film has litl=tle to do with how it opens. This film had to follow-up Origins and that right there made it highly unlikely it would do well. Origins had a big opening and people were really revved up to see it. They all left either disappointed or livid.

This film is not lame. The last one was lame. But this film was not great. It should have been. Hopefully next year's huge X-MEN will give us what we want.

By the way, from Deadline... Fox did not reported a 3D share for the movie. Out of the five 3D movies released so far in July, the studios have only formally reported a 3D share for one of them (Pacific Rim), which is the latest sign that the times are changing for 3D.

Yeah, so how about NO MORE CONVERTED 3D, you morons! People are sick of it and with each passing week, 3D as a % of ticket sales is dropping.

I guarantee you this... The first big even t movie that releases a trailer that ends if IN 2D! will causes to break out into cheers. Not joking here. You just wait.

Someone should have the b@lls to create a red band trailer that ends with or uses the tagline, "F**K 3D!" It would be a viral sensation.
Edited by Matt_Stevens - 8/1/13 at 8:09am
post #42 of 178
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Unfortunately, the quality of a film has litl=tle to do with how it opens. This film had to follow-up Origins and that right there made it highly unlikely it would do well. Origins had a big opening and people were really revved up to see it. They all left either disappointed or livid.

This film is not lame. The last one was lame. But this film was not great. It should have been. Hopefully next year's huge X-MEN will give us what we want.
"Hoping" too.
X-MEN is a great group of characters.

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By the way, from Deadline... Fox did not reported a 3D share for the movie. Out of the five 3D movies released so far in July, the studios have only formally reported a 3D share for one of them (Pacific Rim), which is the latest sign that the times are changing for 3D.

Yeah, so how about NO MORE CONVERTED 3D, you morons! People are sick of it and with each passing week, 3D as a % of ticket sales is dropping.

I guarantee you this... The first big even t movie that releases a trailer that ends if IN 2D! will causes to break out into cheers. Not joking here. You just wait.

Someone should have the b@lls to create a red band trailer that ends with or uses the tagline, "F**K 3D!" It would be a viral sensation.
LOL, viral indeed!

I have mixed feelings regarding 3D.
With some movies it can work, with others it is useless.....not everyone is a Cameron.

The bigger screen helps a lot.
However, the average screen size in a HT isn't really large enough to make it worthwhile.

Like I said, the Hollywood 3D Experiment is something of a mixed bag.wink.gif
post #43 of 178
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I have mixed feelings regarding 3D.
With some movies it can work, with others it is useless.....not everyone is a Cameron.

Even Avatar, to me, looks as gorgeous in 2D. But of course I expect Avatar 2 to be 6D @164 fps.

I don't have mixed feelings about 3D, 3D just plain sucks, and post-conversion sucks even more. So there.


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Even Avatar, to me, looks as gorgeous in 2D. But of course I expect Avatar 2 to be 6D @164 fps.

I don't have mixed feelings about 3D, 3D just plain sucks, and post-conversion sucks even more. So there.


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You have a right to your opinion...it's just that you're wrong.tongue.gif
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You have a right to your opinion...it's just that you're wrong.tongue.gif

ok. Let's settle this outside! biggrin.gif


...Seriously though, each time I've found 3D to be a nice addition - for instance, Avatar, Tron Legacy and Prometheus, watching these on Blu-ray in 2D has been at least equally enjoyable. 3D to me is never convincing, sometimes cool yes, but never convincing and more importantly never necessary to enjoy a movie.

In case of The Wolverine, once again, it really added nothing to the movie, just another effect, and an annoying one at times.
post #46 of 178
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ok. Let's settle this outside! biggrin.gif
Careful now....I'll sic my squirrels on you!biggrin.gif

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Avatar, Tron Legacy and Prometheus, watching these on Blu-ray in 2D has been at least equally enjoyable.
Can't argue that.

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3D to me is never convincing, sometimes cool yes, but never convincing and more importantly never necessary to enjoy a movie.
Certainly, the holodeck it ain't.wink.gif

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In case of The Wolverine, once again, it really added nothing to the movie, just another effect, and an annoying one at times.
Can't comment, haven't seen.
post #47 of 178
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3D to me is never convincing, sometimes cool yes, but never convincing and more importantly never necessary to enjoy a movie.

I agree 100%
post #48 of 178
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I agree 100%
As do I.
post #49 of 178
Not me. 3D completely adds to a movie just like color versus B&W. Take your family to Smurfs 2 3D (shot with Sony’s F65 4K cameras)- spectacular. Visually blows Wolverine away. That and the kids, like the ones in the theater, will like it too.
post #50 of 178
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ok. Let's settle this outside! biggrin.gif


...Seriously though, each time I've found 3D to be a nice addition - for instance, Avatar, Tron Legacy and Prometheus, watching these on Blu-ray in 2D has been at least equally enjoyable. 3D to me is never convincing, sometimes cool yes, but never convincing and more importantly never necessary to enjoy a movie.

In case of The Wolverine, once again, it really added nothing to the movie, just another effect, and an annoying one at times.

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I agree 100%

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As do I.

Yup. Right there with you guys. I'll take higher resolution (ex: 4k/UHD) over 3D any day.
post #51 of 178
Yep must agree with each of the above posters

Very few 3d movies have worked for me, but morph named 3 of the 5 I thought have proved worth the effort.

But when it's done right it's worth the extra $5
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But when it's done right it's worth the extra $5
That's the key point with 3D...."if it's done right."wink.gif
post #53 of 178
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Yup. Right there with you guys. I'll take higher resolution (ex: 4k/UHD) over 3D any day.

I've been saying that for years. Just make my 2-D picture brighter, sharper, and clearer. My eyes are aging and I need all the resolution I can get.

But 3-D as it exists today? You gotta' wear those stupid glasses? Serously? Honestly, if I wanted that kind of effect I'd dig my 50 year old ViewMaster out of the attic. Yellowstone Park and Disneyland never looked so cool.

Another thing I've been saying since this "fad" started. Zzzzzzzz. Wake me when they have true holographic projection, first in theaters (that will bring me back!), then in the consumer market. In the meantime, take your cardboard-cutout 3-D and the inflated ticket prices it "justifies" (the real reason why it's there), and stuff it.

Whew. Glad I got that off my chest. tongue.gif
post #54 of 178
Why has this thread turned into a 2d vs 3d argument and not about the actual movie?
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Why has this thread turned into a 2d vs 3d argument and not about the actual movie?

Because there's not a lot of chatter about this movie and occasional movie-technology-related digressions are part of the DNA of AVS and are often more interesting than the thread subject itself. If a post bores you, skip it. You'll live.
post #56 of 178
Jackman is great, but the movie was dull and boring.

Save your money and watch it when it comes to redbox.
post #57 of 178
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Jackman is great, but the movie was dull and boring.

Save your money and watch it when it comes to redbox.

Kinda thought to do that anyway....



post #58 of 178
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Again, a good film. It has flaws, but I enjoyed it far more than any other film I have seen this summer. A shame it's under performing in the U.S.
Yep just as I have predicted.
post #59 of 178
You guys see they're talking about $100M to Jackman for more movies?
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You guys see they're talking about $100M to Jackman for more movies?
More power to him, if he can get it.
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