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post #1981 of 6914
Need help w/ 2nd zone setup for my new X2000.

This is my first ever attempt at using a multi-zone setup, as I just moved to a house w/ a whole-home audio system, and I am in need of some help as I can't get Zone 2 to play any audio. I get that the X2000 is not able to pass HDMI audio sources through to Zone 2 via the pre-outs, but my understanding is that it should be able to pass the integrated network sources via the pre-out, which is all I really am looking for.

Here is my set up:
- Yamaha HTR-5940 receiver hooked up to 6 speakers throughout the house (1 patio, 1 upstairs, 2 jacuzzi, 2 basement)
- X2000 hooked up to 5.1 system in living room
- Red/White analog audio connection from X2000 pre-out to CD input on HTR-5940
- I have Zone 2 set to "On" on the X2000 with the volume up and "Network" selected as the source

I can play the HTR-5940's internal FM tuner just fine through all the speakers, but when I switch to the CD input connected to the X2000's pre-out (or any other input - I've tried the pre-out in them all) I get no audio at all coming through the whole-house speakers when trying to use the X2000 Network as the source (e.g. Internet Radio, Pandora, Spotify). I can play the Network sources just fine through the main 5.1 system.

I also tried to use the "All Zone Stereo" mode to play the same source in Zone 2 as is playing in the main zone, and I still get nothing out of Zone 2. Everything in the main zone works great.

So I must have something hooked up incorrectly for Zone 2, I just can't figure out what it is and what to try next. Any help is appreciated!
post #1982 of 6914
How is the CD player hooked up? Analog? Digital? Why not just run analog pairs directly to the Yamaha and feed the Denon with the digital input. Then you can run all those zones independently of the Denon.

And how are you running 4 zones(1 patio, 1 upstairs, 2 jacuzzi, 2 basement) with only 6 speakers? Does the Yamaha output 6 channel mono? Seems you may have some more work to do...
post #1983 of 6914
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Nothing like watching arguably one of the best submarine movies of all time (Das Boot) to remind me of my Navy sub days as well as test out the Audyssey LFC feature on the X4000. When used it definitely does attenuate the lower bass frequencies without impacting the overall master volume as simply adjusting the master volume would do. As others have noted, this would be a very desirable feature if in an apartment and you wanted to be able to utilize a sub in your movie experience without annoying the neighbors, although again, not the main reason to purchase this particular model.

Also my new Front Wides definitely offer a more enveloping surround experience. Additionally, instead of having the couch against the back wall with "side surrounds" to the sides as in my last setup, this go around, I have moved the couch forward 3' leaving the surrounds in place so now the surrounds are roughly about 110 degrees to the rear as it were.

Awesome JD, glad you are able to once again hear the glory of your system. You are coming from a 2808ci right? So it's like a smorgasbord or new features for you to play with!
post #1984 of 6914
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by D Bone View Post

Hey batpig, could you shed some light on the X2000's "video mode setting". I have read that it either "processes video normally" while in movie mode, or it "always processes video appropriate for game content" in game mode and auto mode of course is supposed to select the proper mode automatically. I set all of my inputs to movie as I don't own a gaming system........................What exactly is the difference between movie and game mode? I read that it *may* have something to do with black levels ( http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/308590-Denon-Video-Mode-Issue ) but I would like to hear your input.


Thanks in advance!

To be honest I don't REALLY know what it does and nobody has ever given a straight answer publish AFAIK. We know what it's supposed to do but the actual inner workings is sort of a black box.

It's safe to presume that certain paths in the video processing section are bypassed to reduce delay. You can still get overlays (like volume and GUI) so obviously it is sill doing SOME processing. I futzed around with this once (easy to test quickly using the browser interface to toggle settings) and in addition to the overlays it appears the ip scaler is still active. However the picture settings (brightness, contrast etc) no longer functioned in GAME mode. So something is getting bypassed, but not everything, but it's enough to significantly minimize processing delay.

If echo between zones is a big problem then the neat new All Zone Stereo feature is the best solution, since it perfectly syncs all zones to the same source.
post #1985 of 6914
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DeadEyesSmiling View Post

Hello,

I'm currently researching Denon receivers for an upcoming purchase. I thought I had it all boiled down to the AVR-2313CI, but then I started looking at the differences between it and the newer X3000. The main feature on the X3000 not included in the 2313 that caught my eye was the ability to be listening to one source, while watching another. I've looked through the spec sheets, and even read through the owner's manual, and I'm a little confused as to the extent of this feature. I have many films on DVD that include audio commentaries that were not ported over to the Blu-ray upgrades, and I've long wanted the ability to listen to the commentary off the DVD, while enjoying the HD picture from the blu-ray. Assuming I have two different players hooked up to the receiver via HDMI, will the X3000 allow me to do that? Thanks!

-DES

The new Video Select feature on the new models which allows you to mix a different HDMI video source only works on AUDIO ONLY inputs (eg tuner, network streams) so in your specific setup you would have to use the CD input name (the only audio option for an external source).

But actually both receivers can accomplish what you want. Simply assign the digital audio input (optical or coax) to the same name as the HDMI input from the blu ray player. Then all you have to do is switch the Input Mode setting for that input from "HDMI" or "Auto" to the "Digital" setting and it will force audio from the other audio input. You will get a mix of the HDMI video with the optical/coax audio stream.
post #1986 of 6914
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The new Video Select feature on the new models which allows you to mix a different HDMI video source only works on AUDIO ONLY inputs (eg tuner, network streams) so in your specific setup you would have to use the CD input name (the only audio option for an external source).

But actually both receivers can accomplish what you want. Simply assign the digital audio input (optical or coax) to the same name as the HDMI input from the blu ray player. Then all you have to do is switch the Input Mode setting for that input from "HDMI" or "Auto" to the "Digital" setting and it will force audio from the other audio input. You will get a mix of the HDMI video with the optical/coax audio stream.

Awesome! Thank you so much, you just saved me about $200 smile.gif

-DES
post #1987 of 6914
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Originally Posted by cavastra View Post

I've got the X2000 for 2 weeks now all fine but... The AVR makes a high freq irritating noise, even in standby, it gets worse when the amp gets hot.

Is this normal behaviour ? I suppose not. attached a recording of this noise.

Anyone else have this issue ?

denon_noise.m4a.zip 93k .zip file tx

I had a somewhat similar problem, with an extreme annoying noise coming out of my new Denon X4000 - even when muted. It was a drop-in replacement (connection-wise) of a Denon 3808, which did not have this problem.
Replacing the X4000 with another did not fix the problem.

The problem was eventually isolated to the PVR being connected to the power grid - it seems that power system in the X4000 is rather bad compared to the one in the 3808. Denon must have saved a dime or two somewhere they shouldn't. Fortunately, my cable company released a new PVR in July so the problem disappeared then.

x4000.wav.zip 31k .zip file
post #1988 of 6914
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy01 View Post

The problem was eventually isolated to the PVR being connected to the power grid - it seems that power system in the X4000 is rather bad compared to the one in the 3808. Denon must have saved a dime or two somewhere they shouldn't.
Maybe only a bad earthing connection ?
post #1989 of 6914
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Assuming you took the speaker wire out & used a known good wire, you used a known good speaker, which you stated, that kind of narrows it down.

I agree with this. Even if you have to move the speaker and just use a short run of speaker cable to rule it out.
post #1990 of 6914
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

To be honest I don't REALLY know what it does and nobody has ever given a straight answer publish AFAIK. We know what it's supposed to do but the actual inner workings is sort of a black box.

It's safe to presume that certain paths in the video processing section are bypassed to reduce delay. You can still get overlays (like volume and GUI) so obviously it is sill doing SOME processing. I futzed around with this once (easy to test quickly using the browser interface to toggle settings) and in addition to the overlays it appears the ip scaler is still active. However the picture settings (brightness, contrast etc) no longer functioned in GAME mode. So something is getting bypassed, but not everything, but it's enough to significantly minimize processing delay.

If echo between zones is a big problem then the neat new All Zone Stereo feature is the best solution, since it perfectly syncs all zones to the same source.

Thanks for the input, much appreciated! For my setup with no gaming or zone2 usage, I'll just leave it set to Movie.
post #1991 of 6914
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Originally Posted by Tom Grooms View Post

How is the CD player hooked up? Analog? Digital? Why not just run analog pairs directly to the Yamaha and feed the Denon with the digital input. Then you can run all those zones independently of the Denon.

I have analog pairs (red/white) going from the left/right pre-outs on the Denon to the analog CD input on the Yamaha. I don't actually have a CD player hooked up to the Yamaha, those are just the analog inputs I used (and like I said, I tried all of the inputs and none of them seem to accept the audio from the Denon pre-outs).

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Originally Posted by Tom Grooms View Post

And how are you running 4 zones(1 patio, 1 upstairs, 2 jacuzzi, 2 basement) with only 6 speakers? Does the Yamaha output 6 channel mono? Seems you may have some more work to do...

I am thinking of everything outside the main living area (which has 5.1) as "Zone 2" - so I want all the speakers that I have hooked up to the Yamaha to play when I have "Zone 2" selected on the Denon. I don't need to run the patio, upstairs, jacuzzi, basement speakers as independent zones .

If what I am proposing is not possible and/or a bad idea, how else would you suggest I set this system up?
Do I avoid the pre-outs altogether and splice all the whole-home speakers together into a pair that feeds into the 2 open rear-surround slots on the Denon? (That certainly doesn't seem right to me, but thought I'd ask)
Do I need to buy some other piece of equipment to manage the whole-house speakers (e.g. a separate powered amp)? I was hoping the old receiver would serve this purpose, and don't really understand why it wouldn't. And how would I hook the Denon up to it so I can feed audio signal from the Denon to the whole house?

If it helps, here are the specs on the Yamaha that I want to use as the whole-house speaker system amp, in combination with the Denon: http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/htr/htr-5940_black__u/
post #1992 of 6914
I'm in the process of replacing my Marantz SR6003 with a Denon AVR-X4000. Although I'll miss my perfectly-functioning SR6003... frown.gif ...the Denon has a couple of features I'm looking forward to having:
- Audyssey MultEQ XT32 w/ Sub EQ HT (I'm also in the process of finding a second SA1000 so that I can EQ my subs separately) ; and
- Dynamic EQ (since I never actually play anything at refernce level).

One thing it seems I will miss is the ability to toggle between the various Audyssey settings (Front, Flat, Audyssey, Preset, Off) via the remote. Does anyone know whether the Denon's remote can be configured to do this? I did a bit of skimming through the owner's manual over the weekend, but didn't find any info to confirm it. (Does anyone else even find this to be a useful function to have? wink.gif )

Thanks.
post #1993 of 6914
Thread Starter 
The Audyssey buttons have disappeared from the Denon remote but they can easily be replicated with a good universal like a Harmony or URC. Read here for more: http://batpigworld.com/wp/?p=106

I honestly doubt most people toggle between EQ settings though on the fly, maybe occasionally for music or if the same input is used for music and movies (e.g. a single universal player). The EQ settings ARE remembered by input so if you want regular Audyssey curve for your Blu-ray player input and the Flat curve for music (e.g. Network audio or a CD player) then it will remember that automatically when you switch inputs.
post #1994 of 6914
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Originally Posted by Cool_Hwhip View Post

I have analog pairs (red/white) going from the left/right pre-outs on the Denon to the analog CD input on the Yamaha. I don't actually have a CD player hooked up to the Yamaha, those are just the analog inputs I used (and like I said, I tried all of the inputs and none of them seem to accept the audio from the Denon pre-outs).
I am thinking of everything outside the main living area (which has 5.1) as "Zone 2" - so I want all the speakers that I have hooked up to the Yamaha to play when I have "Zone 2" selected on the Denon. I don't need to run the patio, upstairs, jacuzzi, basement speakers as independent zones .

If what I am proposing is not possible and/or a bad idea, how else would you suggest I set this system up?
Do I avoid the pre-outs altogether and splice all the whole-home speakers together into a pair that feeds into the 2 open rear-surround slots on the Denon? (That certainly doesn't seem right to me, but thought I'd ask)
Do I need to buy some other piece of equipment to manage the whole-house speakers (e.g. a separate powered amp)? I was hoping the old receiver would serve this purpose, and don't really understand why it wouldn't. And how would I hook the Denon up to it so I can feed audio signal from the Denon to the whole house?

If it helps, here are the specs on the Yamaha that I want to use as the whole-house speaker system amp, in combination with the Denon: http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/htr/htr-5940_black__u/
Try hooking up the zone 2 preout from the Denon to the FL and FR multi-channel input on the Yamaha or check that the Yamaha is set to auto detect the signal. Sometimes they look for a digital signal or an analog signal or both (auto select)

I'm wondering what you are doing with one speaker upstairs and one speaker on the patio. Is upstairs left channel and patio right channel? Does the Yamaha DSP have the ability to output 2 mono channels and 2 stereo pairs simultaneously? Does it do 6 channel mono? Even if it does, 6 channel mono will destroy the sound stage in the basement and the Jacuzzi. This is going to be a problem as the information sent to the left and right channels are different (discrete). They make single speaker stereo speakers but they still require 2 signal feeds.
post #1995 of 6914
Quote:
The Audyssey buttons have disappeared from the Denon remote but they can easily be replicated with a good universal like a Harmony or URC. Read here for more: http://batpigworld.com/wp/?p=106
I appreciate the link - which I'll keep on hand for future reference - but I'm not really a fan of universal remotes.
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I honestly doubt most people toggle between EQ settings though on the fly, maybe occasionally for music or if the same input is used for music and movies (e.g. a single universal player).
Yeah, I doubt it, too, but it's been useful for me when working out (my basement is an HT area + a gym area). I usually load up a couple or three albums on a flash drive and then either play the content with Audyssey "Off" or, if the recording is a bit anemic-sounding (early AC/DC is a good example), I'll toggle it to "Front" (which adds a bit of heft to the sound), and then off again if the next album doesn't need it.

But if getting to the setting in the menu where I can do the toggling isn't that big of a deal, then I won't be missing much by not having a button on the remote.

Thanks for the input. smile.gif
post #1996 of 6914
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Originally Posted by jj-34 View Post

Maybe only a bad earthing connection ?

I had an electrician check that - no. Denons aren't earthed in any case, and removing the HDMI connection from PVR to AVR did not help. Only turning the PVR off did. The Denon 3808 had no such problem, the X4000 did - so some components in the power chain is obviously of lesser quality than it used to.

That said, obviously the PVR was not a completely well behaved citizen either - but again, the 3808 dealt with it. X4000 doesn't, and only a brand new model of PVR made it usable.
post #1997 of 6914
I'm looking at purchasing either the 2313CI or the x3000 in the near future. I'm working on turning my living room into a dedicated home theater, and I'm wondering if I'll really notice the difference between the two models.

My room is 16' long by 12.5' wide. I've got the Definitive Technology ProCinema 800 speaker set up (4 x ProMonitor 800, 1 x ProCenter 1000, 1 x ProSub 800) for a 5.1 set up, and I'm thinking about purchasing a pair of ProMonitor 1000s for the front satellites, and creating a 7.1 system.

I'll be hooking up two blu-ray players (one 3D, one region-free), an Xbox 360, and a laptop to an Epson projector with at least a 120" screen. I'll be mostly watching movies, but I do a fair bit of music listening as well. I'm not going to be setting up a second zone, and I won't be using AM radio.

I'm thinking I'll be fine with the power output and options offered with the 2313CI, and as far as I can tell, both models have 4K pass-through for future proofing, so that's not an issue either, but I figured some additional opinions wouldn't hurt... smile.gif

-DES
post #1998 of 6914
Thread Starter 
In terms of whether you will "notice the difference" they are essentially identical in terms of power specs and audio processing, so you shouldn't expect any changes in audio quality either way. It's really about FEATURE differences, and in that sense you can check out the first two posts of this thread to understand "what's new?" in the X series and see the model to model differences.

A couple of general points of advise:

1) for a "dedicated" theater I would strongly, strongly advise you to look at upgrading the subwoofer(s). At minimum, add a second ProSub 800, although I'd probably advise going bigger/better. The ProSub 800 is a decent 8" subwoofer and just fine for matching with small satellites in a "typical" moderate volume living room situation, but it's not really going to produce reference quality bass if you really want to crank it. It's a shame to add a 120" screen primarily for "movie night" viewing and then short-change the subwoofage, which is probably the most important piece of the audio foundation.

2) to be honest, I'm not really sure why you are not considering lower levels models (2113/X2000)? There are only minor feature differences between the 2113/X2000 level and the step-up 2313/X3000 models, mostly to do with zone flexibility (which you won't use) and extra legacy inputs (which it also seems like you won't use). As I advise in the first post, if you are going to step up from the 2113/X2000 I'd probably suggest skipping all the way to the X4000 for XT32, and unless there is something specific you haven't said which is driving your decision I would recommend stepping DOWN to the 2113/X2000 and taking the money saved and investing it into point 1 above (subwoofage!).
post #1999 of 6914
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

In terms of whether you will "notice the difference" they are essentially identical in terms of power specs and audio processing, so you shouldn't expect any changes in audio quality either way. It's really about FEATURE differences, and in that sense you can check out the first two posts of this thread to understand "what's new?" in the X series and see the model to model differences.

A couple of general points of advise:

1) for a "dedicated" theater I would strongly, strongly advise you to look at upgrading the subwoofer(s). At minimum, add a second ProSub 800, although I'd probably advise going bigger/better. The ProSub 800 is a decent 8" subwoofer and just fine for matching with small satellites in a "typical" moderate volume living room situation, but it's not really going to produce reference quality bass if you really want to crank it. It's a shame to add a 120" screen primarily for "movie night" viewing and then short-change the subwoofage, which is probably the most important piece of the audio foundation.

2) to be honest, I'm not really sure why you are not considering lower levels models (2113/X2000)? There are only minor feature differences between the 2113/X2000 level and the step-up 2313/X3000 models, mostly to do with zone flexibility (which you won't use) and extra legacy inputs (which it also seems like you won't use). As I advise in the first post, if you are going to step up from the 2113/X2000 I'd probably suggest skipping all the way to the X4000 for XT32, and unless there is something specific you haven't said which is driving your decision I would recommend stepping DOWN to the 2113/X2000 and taking the money saved and investing it into point 1 above (subwoofage!).

batpig, thanks so much for your response and advice!

I've thought about upgrading my sub, but the truth is, I live in an apartment building, and have hardwood floors, and even with my last set up (with a Yamaha rx-v663), I had the sub at the absolute lowest output so as not to shake the pictures off my neighbors' walls. I'm at the very preliminary stages of my living room re-model though, so I'm very open to ideas and thoughts on how to keep the bass in my apartment, and not drive the building insane (I've just stumbled across the Auralex SubDude Subwoofer Isolation Riser, and that looks like a step in the right direction). I understand what you're saying about the importance of quality bass in my system, so I'll definitely have to double down on my research.

The main things that caught my eye about the upgrade between the 2113 and the 2313 is the 4k pass-through and dual HDMI outputs (I work in film production, and the capability of dual outputs for editing purposes is a huge plus). Also, at the places I'm looking, there's only a $20-$40 difference between them right now, so it makes the decision a little easier. As far as additional features between the CI series and the new X series, I don't really see anything that is a deal-breaker not to have for me, so thanks for the clarification on the similar audio quality between them.

Again, thank you for your help in this, you are a huge part of making this community so awesome, and such a great source of valuable information!

-DES
post #2000 of 6914
Thread Starter 
Both the 2113 and 2313 have IDENTICAL video sections. Not sure where you got the impression that the 2313 has 4k support but the 2113 doesn't. Perhaps you should review the first two posts of the xx13 thread again wink.gif

Also, just so you are clear, the dual HDMI outputs of the 2313 are identical (parallel) outputs, the same thing as an HDMI splitter, just inside the box. So you couldn't display different sources on the two outputs. Not sure what the application would be for video editing -- do you just want to see how the image would look on different displays? Most of the time this would be useful for having a regular display and a projector in the same room.

Given that you are worried about ever turning the volume up then even the minor power difference between the two becomes irrelevant. Then again, if the price difference is so minimal between the two then might as well step up...

The SubDude is definitely a good idea as it decouples the subwoofer from the floor acoustically, so if the main problem is direct transmittance through the floorboards it could help. It obviously won't do anything with the bass waves themselves hitting the walls and transferring through that way. It's a much pricier option but the Audyssey LFC feature now on the X4000 attacks this more directly.

Also, in terms of dual subs, it's not always about MORE bass, it's about BETTER bass. The acoustic interaction of dual subwoofers will help to combat the peaks and nulls (room modes) caused by the bass waves bouncing around the room. You will get smoother response across the listening area; in turn this could potentially reduce "boominess" since the subs will provide a smoother combined response than a single sub could. So even if you went with a second ProSub 800 and placed it elsewhere in the room, you could benefit from higher quality bass reproduction that is smoother and less localized.
post #2001 of 6914
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Originally Posted by DeadEyesSmiling View Post


The main things that caught my eye about the upgrade between the 2113 and the 2313 is the 4k pass-through and dual HDMI outputs (I work in film production, and the capability of dual outputs for editing purposes is a huge plus). Also, at the places I'm looking, there's only a $20-$40 difference between them right now, so it makes the decision a little easier. As far as additional features between the CI series and the new X series, I don't really see anything that is a deal-breaker not to have for me, so thanks for the clarification on the similar audio quality between them.

-DES

As a film guy, you may already know this .. but AFAIK, the current AVRs will only be capable of passing through 4k video at 24fps, while the filming industry is already looking at shooting at 120fps which would likely be available on a future model.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 8/27/13 at 2:22am
post #2002 of 6914
Just got my new avr-x2000 and the set up was a breeze. Only problem I'm having is the center speaker not working. Used Audessey for initial settings and tweeked it a bit thereafter. All indications are that the speaker is connected to receiver is ok, receiver seems to recognize the center speaker but no sound.
post #2003 of 6914
Can you hear the Manual Test tone without any problem? What surround mode are you using?
post #2004 of 6914
I've got the following components:

Samsung UN65F7100 tv
Polk CS 20 center speaker
Polk TSx 550t floor standing speakers
post #2005 of 6914
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadEyesSmiling View Post


I've thought about upgrading my sub, but the truth is, I live in an apartment building...

Are you able to paint your apartment? You really don't want a front projector in a room with white walls or ceiling. Remember projectors don't throw black so any light that reflects off the screen will reflect off the walls and ceiling. If they're not dark, you wont get black and if they're white you wont get dark grey. White walls and reflective light will kill a projection set-up...
post #2006 of 6914
Don't have surround speakers so don't think I'm using any surround settings at all. Yes, have heard the manual center speaker tone
post #2007 of 6914
Please forgive as my intention is not to hijack this thread -

I have presently a Marantz NR1602 that was a good interim AVR. I was hoping to move up to something a bit more robust and hopefully even better audio. What I don't follow is what exactly are the differences between the Denon and Marantz line up for audio quality. Also, is there that much difference between a Denon or Marantz upper line AVR as opposed to separates such as offered by Outlaw, Emotiva, and Anthem? Those with separates seem to chide those who enjoy AVR units like Denon and those with AVRS such as Denon seem to believe the audio quality is more than just okay.

I admit I was interested in possibly getting a Denon (or Marantz) but find over time I am a bit unsure what really is going to give me both quality and bagn for the buck.

My system set up will never be beyond 5.1 but a 2nd zone would be nice.
Large screen plasma
Marantz NR1602
TiVo 3
Oppo bdp103 (both disc play and network file play - flac and also movie media files)
3 Goldenear AON 3 fronts and center (deciding whether to move L/R to the back and get Goldenear Triton 7 for front or just more AON 3's).

I listen to a mix of FLAC 96/24, CD music converted to lossless files and watch cable TV, Amazon/Netflix/Vudu streaming along with my blu ray disc collection.
With the above in mind, would the 3000 series Denon be a better fit than the Marantz NR1602? I don't play music overly loud but at times to fill my apartment flat.

Any help would be appreciated and if I am asking in the wrong place, please let me know and I'll withdraw the quest here for help.
post #2008 of 6914
Receiver just came back on after completing firmware update, think I saw the front panel indicate SURROUND. Did not originally set up w/ surround.
post #2009 of 6914
Speaker config indicates large front and center speakers, no subwoofer (as yet, that is, but will) and under surround, NONE.
post #2010 of 6914
I also have a small Pyle preamp into the CD analog ports to support my turntable.
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