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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Jdsmoothie - it affects very rare whiter than white content but is not my reason for upgrading. Some fail the chroma test too and I only gave you one example, from my own receiver even...




All I want to know is whether the x4000 passes video tests since I spend money on professional video calibrations. Do you know or not? I'm guessing not.

I can tell you that HomeTheater did the test on my 2313CI and it passed. Can't speak for the 2014 models but I imagine going one step up and one step new would make that a : most Fu*$ing likely
post #692 of 6888
I agree, its not likely going to fail....however, it wouldn't be the first time a newer higher end model failed. I was going to buy the 3312ci after a price break but it didn't pass. I just like to check now before I buy anything since I don't like returning things.

im really looking forward to xt32 and a bit more headroom though!
post #693 of 6888
Hi All,

Just got my X4000 setup and have a few issues I am looking for help and guidance on. My setup is the X4000, a Vizio E701i-A3, PS3, and FiOs DVR. 5.1 speakers are Klipsch Quintet II's

1. I ran Audyssey and right away it reported y LF, RF, and center out of phase. I ignored and continued but what would be the cause of it. (they are not out out of phase)

2. I have tried both ARC and Optical Out from TV to X4000 to play audio from smart-apps (Netflix is the example). What should the TV be set for, if using Optical. PCM or DD? Trying DD results in the receiver displaying DD on front display. Using PCM results in PLII cinema. I am guessing it should be set for DD on the TV.

UPDATE: Streaming from Amazon App on TV yields PL II Cinema, even when movie is supposed to be (according to description) 5.1


3. Should the SRS TruVolume and SRS Studiosound HD on the TV be disabled? Does that info get passed over Optical or ARC out? Is it just for sound going through the TV speakers?

4. I set PS3 for Bitstream for BluRay, so that they X4000 does the decoding. Not a question, just a statement smile.gif

5. What is the speed of the Ethernet port. I cannot seem to find it anywhere....

Any other things I should be doing? So far FiOS looks great. Live TV looks and sounds great, and VOD is awesome. Rise of the Planet of the Apes sounds great!
Haven't watched movies of the PS3 yet, but am sure it will be great.

Thanks for the help
Ron
Edited by rstambo - 6/12/13 at 8:30pm
post #694 of 6888
anything special to get ARC working connecting my Denon x4000 to my Panasonic 65VT60?


The audio should switch over automatically when using the embedded apps on the TV right?
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post #696 of 6888
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Originally Posted by rstambo View Post

Hi All,

Just got my X4000 setup and have a few issues I am looking for help and guidance on. My setup is the X4000, a Vizio E701i-A3, PS3, and FiOs DVR. 5.1 speakers are Klipsch Quintet II's

1. I ran Audyssey and right away it reported y LF, RF, and center out of phase. I ignored and continued but what would be the cause of it. (they are not out out of phase)

2. I have tried both ARC and Optical Out from TV to X4000 to play audio from smart-apps (Netflix is the example). What should the TV be set for, if using Optical. PCM or DD? Trying DD results in the receiver displaying DD on front display. Using PCM results in PLII cinema. I am guessing it should be set for DD on the TV.

UPDATE: Streaming from Amazon App on TV yields PL II Cinema, even when movie is supposed to be (according to description) 5.1


3. Should the SRS TruVolume and SRS Studiosound HD on the TV be disabled? Does that info get passed over Optical or ARC out? Is it just for sound going through the TV speakers?

4. I set PS3 for Bitstream for BluRay, so that they X4000 does the decoding. Not a question, just a statement smile.gif

5. What is the speed of the Ethernet port. I cannot seem to find it anywhere....

Any other things I should be doing? So far FiOS looks great. Live TV looks and sounds great, and VOD is awesome. Rise of the Planet of the Apes sounds great!
Haven't watched movies of the PS3 yet, but am sure it will be great.

Thanks for the help
Ron

1. Sometimes the room dynamics will produce this result. As long at the wiring is confirmed correct, you're good to go.
2. ARC can generally only pass stereo 2.0. so you'll want to use the optical out with the DD setting. The DD 5.1 audio track for a Netflix movie must be selected under the Netflix options.
3. Likely only applies when the TVs speakers are used. Easy enough to test yourself though.
4. Also on the PS3 set the "Deep Color Output" to OFF to ensure there are no video issues.
5. 100Mb
post #697 of 6888

Thank you very much for this info, let me get this straight.

Say I am watching Satellite on HDMI 2. I then press the APPS button on my TV remote. Should the Denon automatically switch to the TV audio input. Then when I am done and exit the apps, the denon will go back to Cbl Sat, or whatever last source I was at?


Right now, I have the apps running being pushed do the Denon with an optical cable. Works great, sounds great, but I cannot see any of the on screen display. I take it this is because I am on the "Apps" input, not HDMI 2.
post #698 of 6888
Is it just me, or do they not list a price on the website, or a button to add to the cart? lol. I see a checkout button, but no way to add the item to the cart.
post #699 of 6888
Not just you. Saw the same thing. I'm trying to decide if I return the unopened X4000 I just bought from the local HT place and order it elsewhere to save me an extra $100+ in sales tax, alone. Friggin 8.25% suuuuuucks.

Jeff
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Originally Posted by Iceblade View Post

Not just you. Saw the same thing. I'm trying to decide if I return the unopened X4000 I just bought from the local HT place and order it elsewhere to save me an extra $100+ in sales tax, alone. Friggin 8.25% suuuuuucks.

Jeff

I just ordered one from Craig at AVS yesterday - I don't think you'll find a better deal from an authorized dealer anywhere.
post #701 of 6888
Including shipping and tax? Any extended warranty?

Thanks,
Jeff
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Thread Starter 
Do you really need an extended warranty beyond the 3 year factory warranty? If you buy with a major credit card they will likely tack on an extra year as well.
post #703 of 6888
Well, if history is any judge of future performance, I am the guy that extended warranties were created for. If there is a recall on 1 out of 10000 units on the Whizzbang 2000, mine will be the one unit that needs to be returned/catches fire/causes the cat to explode. I speak of this coming from having 2 Sony HDTV's, 3 Samsung HDTV's and a Nissan Murano all replaced/major dollars saved due to the extended warranty. Yeah, I'm the "dark cloud follows him around" guy. smile.gif

Regards,
Jeff
post #704 of 6888
Thread Starter 
Fair enough wink.gif
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I just helped a good friend install his X4000 last night. Piece of cake - it should have an easy button on it. Other than his wires, Direct TV and other source items that were wired in a tiny cubby hole from Hell...........the actual setting up of the X4000 - there just about wasn't any. If it had 2 hands so it could connect speaker wires to itself, you could just take it out of the box and let it do it's own thing....................smile.gif
post #706 of 6888
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Originally Posted by FlyOnTheWall View Post

Thank you very much for this info, let me get this straight.

Say I am watching Satellite on HDMI 2. I then press the APPS button on my TV remote. Should the Denon automatically switch to the TV audio input. Then when I am done and exit the apps, the denon will go back to Cbl Sat, or whatever last source I was at?


Right now, I have the apps running being pushed do the Denon with an optical cable. Works great, sounds great, but I cannot see any of the on screen display. I take it this is because I am on the "Apps" input, not HDMI 2.

1. When you have ARC enabled, the AVR will automatically switch to the TV source when powered ON. To watch cable TV you would then have to manually select HDMI 2. If you press the APPS button on your TV, it "may" switch the AVR to TV, although likely not, rather you would have to select the TV input (not sure). ARC ends up being more trouble than it's worth which is why you are better served keeping with the optical cable connection.

2. You won't get a GUI display unless the video is being pass through the AVR which with TV apps that is not the case as only audio is passed.
post #707 of 6888
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

1. When you have ARC enabled, the AVR will automatically switch to the TV source when powered ON. To watch cable TV you would then have to manually select HDMI 2. If you press the APPS button on your TV, it "may" switch the AVR to TV, although likely not, rather you would have to select the TV input (not sure). ARC ends up being more trouble than it's worth which is why you are better served keeping with the optical cable connection.

2. You won't get a GUI display unless the video is being pass through the AVR which with TV apps that is not the case as only audio is passed.


Ok, we are on the same page.

Think I will just continue to use optical out for the apps. I have never liked ARC anyways,

Thanks

PS-- is there a discrete input for Pandora?

on my older yamaha reciever, just hitting the net button, would take me back to the last used "net" program, usually being Pandora.

The Denon doesn't seem to do that, unless I am doing something wrong.
post #708 of 6888
Thread Starter 
There is no discrete input for Pandora (it's all part of the "Network" input source) but the smartphone remote app does have a discrete command for Pandora. It's super easy to fire up that way, especially when just listening to streaming audio you probably don't need to fire up the TV or anything else, so everything can be handled from the smartphone / tablet.
post #709 of 6888
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Originally Posted by FlyOnTheWall View Post

Ok, we are on the same page.

Think I will just continue to use optical out for the apps. I have never liked ARC anyways,

Thanks

PS-- is there a discrete input for Pandora?

on my older yamaha reciever, just hitting the net button, would take me back to the last used "net" program, usually being Pandora.

The Denon doesn't seem to do that, unless I am doing something wrong.


My 2113 does go to the last listened to station as soon as I hit the Net button, be it SiriusXM, Pandora or internet radio station. I cant imagine that would be any different on the E/X series.
post #710 of 6888
ok I can't figure this out on my X4000. How do I listen to music on internet radio while viewing the video only from a hdmi input? Is this possible?
post #711 of 6888
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Originally Posted by cablebandit3 View Post

ok I can't figure this out on my X4000. How do I listen to music on internet radio while viewing the video only from a hdmi input? Is this possible?

when listening to audio, press option. select "video select", and select the source you want to watch.
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Thread Starter 
Yeah, this is one of the awesome new features highlighted at the beginning of this thread wink.gif with an older model you couldn't even do it at all!
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Less than two weeks ago I purchased an AVR-1913 at Frys for $304. (It replaced a Okkyo TX-SR604 that on occasion would switch off when changed from a 720p channel to a 1080i channel using ATT Uverse). Today frys is selling the the AVR-E400 for $299. To me the only difference the the 4K TV. Other than that it seem the 1913 has more features, plus I banana plug everything. I don't plan on purchasing a 4K TV anytime soon. Has anyone had any experience with both receivers? Should I make the exchange?
post #714 of 6888
Thread Starter 
The 1913 doesn't have more features, the E400 is its direct replacement. Review the first posts of this thread to understand what's new in the E/X series models. The biggest improvement is in the multizone functionality and the video select feature.
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Originally Posted by sdhayden View Post

Less than two weeks ago I purchased an AVR-1913 at Frys for $304. (It replaced a Okkyo TX-SR604 that on occasion would switch off when changed from a 720p channel to a 1080i channel using ATT Uverse). Today frys is selling the the AVR-E400 for $299. To me the only difference the the 4K TV. Other than that it seem the 1913 has more features, plus I banana plug everything. I don't plan on purchasing a 4K TV anytime soon. Has anyone had any experience with both receivers? Should I make the exchange?

Where do you see the e400 for 299?
post #716 of 6888
it is the -major brand- receiver they have listed on the front page of their ads.
post #717 of 6888
I can confirm the $299 price for the E400 at Fry's, since I just picked one up not half an hour ago. I'd seen the ad but didn't even connect the dots when I saw the price tag at the store - I'd gone there just to see what was available, but the deal was too good to pass up. I was expecting at any time to be told "sorry, that's a mistake" and to leave empty handed, but everything worked out, and when I compared to the ad it was obvious that it was a bona fide deal. It was sort of surreal to see the E300 right next to it with a price tag $100 higher... This is to replace my long-in-the-tooth H/K AVR-225 - it still works great but I want more features.
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Originally Posted by tww1fa View Post

I can confirm the $299 price for the E400 at Fry's, since I just picked one up not half an hour ago. I'd seen the ad but didn't even connect the dots when I saw the price tag at the store - I'd gone there just to see what was available, but the deal was too good to pass up. I was expecting at any time to be told "sorry, that's a mistake" and to leave empty handed, but everything worked out, and when I compared to the ad it was obvious that it was a bona fide deal. It was sort of surreal to see the E300 right next to it with a price tag $100 higher... This is to replace my long-in-the-tooth H/K AVR-225 - it still works great but I want more features.
They don't say what Denon model it is, but yeah normally $599 with $300 discount, really sweet deal on a E400, and Fry's is a authorized Denon dealer. On their page 1 of 6/14 ad.
post #719 of 6888
e400 for $300 or x1000 for $400? Decisions.

The Audyssey XT in 1000 is nice, but more features in 400.
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