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post #1321 of 1713
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Not sure, but last night my aquos (sp??) did not link on my sharp TV and it started playing sound thru the TV and the speakers.
post #1322 of 1713
Thread Starter 
I don't quite understand what you try to say above. But the only way possible from my guss is that you connected your device directly to TV so the audio will play on TV speakers. Then, since there is ARC support on both the TV and receiver, The audio get transmitted via ARC back to receiver via the HDMI output connection which in turn plays on receiver speakers. There is no way to have both play audio if you connected all devices through receiver first then one HDMI connection to TV.
post #1323 of 1713
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

I don't quite understand what you try to say above. But the only way possible from my guss is that you connected your device directly to TV so the audio will play on TV speakers. Then, since there is ARC support on both the TV and receiver, The audio get transmitted via ARC back to receiver via the HDMI output connection which in turn plays on receiver speakers. There is no way to have both play audio if you connected all devices through receiver first then one HDMI connection to TV.

Not sure what to tell you I do not understand how, but my DVR (AT&T) is connected via HDMI to sat/cbl on the receiver then I have HDMI 1 running to my TV. When the sharp TV starts up it usually shows a screen that says Aquos speaker link enabled. When it does this the sound only comes thru the Receiver. If it does not link then the sound will play thru both TV speakers and Receiver. I like the link setup so I can actually control the Receiver volume by pointing the remote at the TV instead of my A/V cabinet which is across the room.
post #1324 of 1713
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Originally Posted by leager330r View Post

I have a question regarding Zone 2 and HDMI2

My setup:
Media Room with a 5.1 setup
Speakers setup on a patio under Zone 2
HDMI2 going to a TV mounted on the Patio
AT&T Uverse

My problem is this:
I cannot get the sound to work either from Zone 2 or HDMI2 going to TV.
Video works to TV
Sound from Tuner, Pandora work on Zone 2 just cannot get anything from HDMI input.

I read this this morning in the manual:
Multi Zone Listening options:
Zone 2 input available - SAT/CBL
It is not possible to down-convert the audio and video input signals from the HDMI input terminals, digital input terminals (optical and coax) and the component video input terminals and output them to Zone 2.

Does that mean I cannot get sound to zone 2 or HDMI2 from my cable box?

I have my TiVo connected to my SC-1522 with HDMI and I then have my JVC projector connected to the receiver's HDMI1 output and my computer monitor/TV (with built in speakers) connected to the receiver's HDMI2 output.

When my receiver is off I get video and audio from HDMI2 using my monitor/TV. When I turn on my receiver I can still watch the video on HDMI2 but I get sound from the speakers connected to the receiver's amps via the binding posts.

I have "Standby Through", (see p.66 of the SC-1522 manual), set to the HDMI input where I have my TiVo connected, thus the reason I video/sound on my monitor even when the receiver is off. The HDMI Audio setting, (see p.71 of the manual), is set to "AMP", thus I get sound from my speakers via the receivers amplifiers when the receiver is turned on.

I think if you enable "Standby Through" and connect HDMI2 to your patio TV then you should be able to watch and listen on the patio TV if the receiver is off.
When the receiver is on you won't get audio via HDMI2 but you may be able to use your zone 2 speakers to get the SAT/CBL audio but you will have to feed it to the receiver via an analog input because as you read you cannot down convert from the HDMI audio signal.

Try this: (Some of it may already be set this way)
1) Connect your patio TV to HDMI2 output
2) Connect your patio speakers to zone 2 speaker binding posts.
3) Connect your cable box to the receiver's SAT/CBL box via HDMI AND also connect the analog left/right audio from the cable box to the receiver's SAT/CBL analog inputs.
4) Set "Standby Through" to the SAT/CBL input.
5) Set the Zone2 to the SAT/CBL input.

Now you should be able to watch/listen with the patio TV using the TV speakers if the receiver is powered off and if you turn on Zone 2 of the receiver you should be able to watch via the patio TV and listen via your patio speakers.

I think you were close... just the analog audio inputs from the cable box to the receiver and the "Standby Through" that were causing you problems.

Good Luck! Let me know if this works for you please.
Edited by walterappleby - 6/27/13 at 12:33pm
post #1325 of 1713
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Originally Posted by walterappleby View Post

I have my TiVo connected to my SC-1522 with HDMI and I then have my JVC projector connected to the receiver's HDMI1 output and my computer monitor/TV (with built in speakers) connected to the receiver's HDMI2 output.

When my receiver is off I get video and audio from HDMI2 using my monitor/TV. When I turn on my receiver I can still watch the video on HDMI2 but I get sound from the speakers connected to the receiver's amps via the binding posts.

I have "Standby Through", (see p.66 of the SC-1522 manual), set to the HDMI input where I have my TiVo connected, thus the reason I video/sound on my monitor even when the receiver is off. The HDMI Audio setting, (see p.71 of the manual), is set to "AMP", thus I get sound from my speakers via the receivers amplifiers when the receiver is turned on.

I think if you enable "Standby Through" and connect HDMI2 to your patio TV then you should be able to watch and listen on the patio TV if the receiver is off.
When the receiver is on you won't get audio via HDMI2 but you may be able to use your zone 2 speakers to get the SAT/CBL audio but you will have to feed it to the receiver via an analog input because as you read you cannot down convert from the HDMI audio signal.

Try this: (Some of it may already be set this way)
1) Connect your patio TV to HDMI2 output
2) Connect your patio speakers to zone 2 speaker binding posts.
3) Connect your cable box to the receiver's SAT/CBL box via HDMI AND also connect the analog left/right audio from the cable box to the receiver's SAT/CBL analog inputs.
4) Set "Standby Through" to the SAT/CBL input.
5) Set the Zone2 to the SAT/CBL input.

Now you should be able to watch/listen with the patio TV using the TV speakers if the receiver is powered off and if you turn on Zone 2 of the receiver you should be able to watch via the patio TV and listen via your patio speakers.

I think you were close... just the analog audio inputs from the cable box to the receiver and the "Standby Through" that were causing you problems.

Good Luck! Let me know if this works for you please.

Awesome I will try this out.
the only question is #4 standby thru? where is this setting?

Thanks for putting this together for me I will let you know if it works.
post #1326 of 1713
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Originally Posted by leager330r View Post

Awesome I will try this out.
the only question is #4 standby thru? where is this setting?

Thanks for putting this together for me I will let you know if it works.

Hit reply to quick I found it in the manual. Thanks again
post #1327 of 1713
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Originally Posted by walterappleby View Post

I have my TiVo connected to my SC-1522 with HDMI and I then have my JVC projector connected to the receiver's HDMI1 output and my computer monitor/TV (with built in speakers) connected to the receiver's HDMI2 output.

When my receiver is off I get video and audio from HDMI2 using my monitor/TV. When I turn on my receiver I can still watch the video on HDMI2 but I get sound from the speakers connected to the receiver's amps via the binding posts.

I have "Standby Through", (see p.66 of the SC-1522 manual), set to the HDMI input where I have my TiVo connected, thus the reason I video/sound on my monitor even when the receiver is off. The HDMI Audio setting, (see p.71 of the manual), is set to "AMP", thus I get sound from my speakers via the receivers amplifiers when the receiver is turned on.

I think if you enable "Standby Through" and connect HDMI2 to your patio TV then you should be able to watch and listen on the patio TV if the receiver is off.
When the receiver is on you won't get audio via HDMI2 but you may be able to use your zone 2 speakers to get the SAT/CBL audio but you will have to feed it to the receiver via an analog input because as you read you cannot down convert from the HDMI audio signal.

Try this: (Some of it may already be set this way)
1) Connect your patio TV to HDMI2 output
2) Connect your patio speakers to zone 2 speaker binding posts.
3) Connect your cable box to the receiver's SAT/CBL box via HDMI AND also connect the analog left/right audio from the cable box to the receiver's SAT/CBL analog inputs.
4) Set "Standby Through" to the SAT/CBL input.
5) Set the Zone2 to the SAT/CBL input.

Now you should be able to watch/listen with the patio TV using the TV speakers if the receiver is powered off and if you turn on Zone 2 of the receiver you should be able to watch via the patio TV and listen via your patio speakers.

I think you were close... just the analog audio inputs from the cable box to the receiver and the "Standby Through" that were causing you problems.

Good Luck! Let me know if this works for you please.



This worked great, thanks for your time.
Edited by leager330r - 6/28/13 at 8:46am
post #1328 of 1713
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Originally Posted by leager330r View Post

This worked great, thanks for your time.

You are welcome. I'm glad it worked for you!
post #1329 of 1713
Anyone notice on the Pioneer website description of the new SC-1523 they used the same template as the SC-75. Instead of doing the global search and replace for the SC-1523 they left one mention to the SC-75 in the iControl2013 App description at the bottom of the SC-1523 description. Bottom line, this probably means the SC-1523= Elite SC-75 like the SC-1522= Elite SC-65:)
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Originally Posted by Pioneer_Elte View Post

Not to go off topic, but looks like Pioneer just announced the 1522-K replacement for 2013... The SC-1523-K
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Pioneer+Receivers/SC-1523-K
post #1330 of 1713
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Originally Posted by vedderpj13 View Post

Just purchased this Receiver from Best Buy (who price matched Costco @ $599) - You really can't beat that price for something that offers so much, and is very comparable to the SC-65 Elite.

Looking forward to reading through all of these pages to find out about this receiver. I was so close to ordering the SC-1222-K from Newegg last night, but found that Costco deal and couldn't pass on it.

You did very well. Pioneer must have been sitting on a boat load of these AVRs. Do read as much of this thread, the MCACC thread, and all of your manual. Most if not nearly all problems encountered were due to lazy operators, bad or older gen HDMI cables, shorted or inadequate speaker wires, etc.
post #1331 of 1713
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Originally Posted by Bill3888 View Post

I'm looking for some help on the HDMI handshaking. I've had this receiver for over 2 months now, actually 1st one lasted 2 days, and have an ongoing problem with the sound. It has been random and intermittent on HDMI. I called pioneer and they blamed the cable company, so I fooled them and switched companies and low and behold, the same problem. (I was switching anyway). Here's what I get. I turn on the tv, AT&T u-verse, and then the receiver. About half the time I have no sound, just picture - I play around with the pause and fast forward and usually the sound will come on - sometimes it'll be ok while I fast forward through commercials and sometimes it won't and I have to play with it again to get the sound back. This is getting very old and irritating. I disconnect the HDMI cable while powered and plug it back in and it always comes back with sound (I know pioneer says never to do this), and it seems to go longer without having to play with the pause or FF buttons to get the sound back. Now when I turn everything on and get no sound, (probably 50 % of the time), I have started to power off the receiver only then re-power by holding the power button down(about 10 seconds) to reestablish the HDMI ports on the receiver. This always works (or seems to) and I can watch for a long time without having to play "get the sound back with the pause and FF buttons on the AT&T remote. But when I power everything off and power everything back on in the normal manner the sound is back to intermittent, so I have to do the receiver power off then on and hold to get the sound back to normal. I watch the receiver's remote I-control app on my phone and watch as I hit FF or pause and the input to the receiver goes from dolby to PCM but doesn't go back to dolby when I stop the pause or FF. Those times when the sound works correctly it goes from dolby to PCM then back to dolby when I resume normal speed. I have changed HDMI cables once but I guess I should do that again just to be sure it's not the cable.. It just seems to me the receiver is "loosing" it's information on the HDMI port (but evidently not loosing picture information). The picture is always good, I have switched the input HDMI from 3 to 1 and no change. I really like this receiver and probably can't find anymore at Costco, that's why I've been putting up with this. Using the iphone app I can switch rapidly between types of output and it seems that going to direct and pure direct brings the sound back most often and then I can switch right back to what I was on before (surround or THX) and the sound stays on. Anyway any help out there would be greatly appreciated, I'm really trying to keep this receiver!! Thanks P.S. after reading this myself I need to clear this up. Once the sound is established it stays on and I only loose it if I select a new show, pause, fast forward or rewind. The sound works perfect when I use my TV apps such as you tube or net flicks(optical to reciever) It is only through HDMI cable that I loose sound. I guess I need to hook up my DVD through HDMI to see what that does. Thanks

Monoprice's $3.50 hi speed HDMI cable replacing AT&T's high speed cable solved ALL my problems. Thanks for the advice.
post #1332 of 1713
Monoprice has been a go-to on-line retailer for me for years. A while ago I was in BestBuy's high-end shop and a salesman tried to sell me their expensive HDMI cables ($35-70). I pulled up the Monoprice site on my iPhone and showed him the prices for similar and possibly better cables. He ended up writing down the website address for his own use. I agree that a lot of the problems I see here stem from poor cabling/wiring. For the cost of Monoprice cables, how can you go wrong swapping out older cables? This receiver is not just a a good buy. It's an excellent performer if you set it up correctly.
post #1333 of 1713
Even the Monoprice speakers and subs I'd bet to be a descent starter setup.
post #1334 of 1713
^^^^
I have a pair on Monoprice outdoor speakers on my deck & they are everything I want in an outdoor speaker. They are connected to zone 2 of my 1522 with Monoprice speaker wire & Monoprice banana plugs. Everything I've gotten from them is top quality at a great price.
post #1335 of 1713
Hey guys! So, I'm already planning out the man cave for myself. Keep in mind, we don't yet have a space for the man cave, and we are a ways off, but I love researching smile.gif One thing that would go in the man cave are new speakers for this reciever. I've had the 1522 for about a month and love it, it powers my Energy Take 5 5.1 system great. One thing about this system however is that the speakers are small. I think there range is 125khz and up. Or maybe its 125 hz, I don't understand the hertz spectrum. Basicaly, my sub is about 25khz or hz on up and my speakers are 125 and up. That leaves, however, a nice gap from 100-125 that my speakers don't go low enough for and my sub doesn't go high enough for.

So, the quest for new speakers has begun. My question for this forum is, how big of speakers will this receiver power? I was thinking off two towers or large bookshelf speakers for front L/R and a large center, then two solid surrounds. Keep in mind, I believe the take five's have a 31/2 or 4" main speaker. So towers with two 6 or 6 1/2 inch woofers would make a huge difference....but can this reciever power such a set up? OR when you go to large speakers like that do you pretty much have to get a seperate amplifier too? I was looking at Polk Audios ebay page at these, the RTi8 BLACK Towers from Polk Audio.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RTi8-BLACK-Towers-from-Polk-Audio-NEW-PAIR-/360670062706?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item53f99c6872

Love this reciever, now just for speakers and curious if this receiver can push a setup like this. Thank you!
post #1336 of 1713
Thread Starter 
The audible range for average human is 20Hz to 20KHz.

The receiver should have no problem drive a pair of tower speakers as I have right now (JBL Studio L880). As for other speakers, some decent sized book shelf should handle bass as low as 80Hz. There is no need to go any bigger as you only have one cross over points for all speakers that are set to small.
post #1337 of 1713
Croikee, Those speakers look pretty good... I think they are a model old, so they are a good bargain it appears given their good ratings from reviewers. Their performance is listed as frequency range : 30Hz-27kHz and their efficiency is 90db. The higher the efficiency, the "easier" it is for an amplifier to produce a higher level of sound. According to the Polk website, the speakers should be powered by an amplifier that has 20-250 watts per channel. I think the 1522 can certainly stir up the Sound Pressure Level from these speakers to adequate levels to get you thrown out of an apartment (if that is where you live).

Jeff
post #1338 of 1713
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Whatever happened to those Digital Amp chips that don't require a DAC? I remember Panasonic used to have a line of AVRs (I owned one) that use a TI chip that converts digital directly to speaker output.

here you go, Foxbat -
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/core-audio-kratos-mkii-fully-digital-amplifier

talk about a timely preview wink.gif
post #1339 of 1713
Thread Starter 
That is some interesting reading smile.gif Thanks.
post #1340 of 1713
can the 1522 play 2 video output sources at a time, lets say HDMI and Component RCA? for example, play on 2 TV's 2 different sources or same source?
post #1341 of 1713
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Originally Posted by flyhigh123 View Post

can the 1522 play 2 video output sources at a time, lets say HDMI and Component RCA? for example, play on 2 TV's 2 different sources or same source?

No. I forgot, which AVR have this option, but those are in the $1500 dollar range.
post #1342 of 1713
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

No. I forgot, which AVR have this option, but those are in the $1500 dollar range.
Isn't this a $1600 receiver? Even if you got the Costco deal it's still in the $1500+ class.

I'm not sure about being able to output 2 different sources to two different displays, but I'm pretty sure you can output one source over HDMI out 1&2. I came across the setting onthe remote were you can select HDMI 1, HDMI 2 or HDMI 1&2.
post #1343 of 1713
You can use an old router as bridge instead of spending money on the network adapter
post #1344 of 1713
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Originally Posted by Pioneer_Elte View Post

Isn't this a $1600 receiver? Even if you got the Costco deal it's still in the $1500+ class.

I'm not sure about being able to output 2 different sources to two different displays, but I'm pretty sure you can output one source over HDMI out 1&2. I came across the setting onthe remote were you can select HDMI 1, HDMI 2 or HDMI 1&2.

This isn't a $1600 AVR. this is a $599.99 AVR. I would of never bought this AVR at full price. Anyway, there are several AVRs that can output two different signals. The 1522 has two HDMI output for one signal.
post #1345 of 1713
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

This isn't a $1600 AVR. this is a $599.99 AVR. I would of never bought this AVR at full price. .

A lot of us didn't buy this, or any other, AVR for $1600. But that was the cost of the item up until Costco did the famous sale of the remnants. And then nobody was talking about buying any other $600 receiver from that point until the Pioneers disappeared. There is no other $600 unit I'm aware of that has anywhere near the features of the SK-1522-k. I don't know of another 9.2 AVR for this price. One of the fellows from "The High Tech Guys" podcast just bought a $600 Denon and, when he reviewed it, complained about the bad audio processor he got that he turned off because it was so distorting to his ear. We got QDEO. (Plus the other one!) It's just so obviously a better AVR than anything near the $600 level.

Amazon, right up until the Costco sale, was selling it for $1200, marked down from the MSRP of $1600. They have a couple left right now for $1000. The new replacement model, SC-1523-k, is listed at, again, $1600. This is one case where we got more than we paid for. Not many of us thought of this as a "regular" purchase. Pat yourself on the back for winning the lottery this time. It won't happen again soon.
post #1346 of 1713
The Costco deal was indeed a "Best Buy." It seems that the only difference between the 1522 and 1523 is that the 1523 can upscale to 4K. I bet that it was just a firmware change since they both have the QDEO chip which can upscale to 4K.
post #1347 of 1713
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

This isn't a $1600 AVR. this is a $599.99 AVR. I would of never bought this AVR at full price. Anyway, there are several AVRs that can output two different signals. The 1522 has two HDMI output for one signal.
I wouldn't have bought a $1600 receiver either and only bought this because of the incredible price markdown at Costco. Whether you would pay the MSRP or not doesn't change the fact that it's still a $1600 AVR and the features it has is on par with similarly priced AVRs from the other major brands.

I would love to get a new Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG for $40,000. But because I wouldn't pay full price for it, does that mean it's not a $212,000 car? No, because some people will & have paid that much for it.
post #1348 of 1713
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Originally Posted by alnilam1 View Post

A lot of us didn't buy this, or any other, AVR for $1600. But that was the cost of the item up until Costco did the famous sale of the remnants. And then nobody was talking about buying any other $600 receiver from that point until the Pioneers disappeared. There is no other $600 unit I'm aware of that has anywhere near the features of the SK-1522-k. I don't know of another 9.2 AVR for this price. One of the fellows from "The High Tech Guys" podcast just bought a $600 Denon and, when he reviewed it, complained about the bad audio processor he got that he turned off because it was so distorting to his ear. We got QDEO. (Plus the other one!) It's just so obviously a better AVR than anything near the $600 level.

Amazon, right up until the Costco sale, was selling it for $1200, marked down from the MSRP of $1600. They have a couple left right now for $1000. The new replacement model, SC-1523-k, is listed at, again, $1600. This is one case where we got more than we paid for. Not many of us thought of this as a "regular" purchase. Pat yourself on the back for winning the lottery this time. It won't happen again soon.
post #1349 of 1713
Using 7.1 + z2 & z3. According to the manual only the main and zone 2 can have the Sirius output. Any way to get Sirius on all three (main, Z2 and Z3)? If that is not possible, how about switching the outputs between z2 & z3 without actually changing the cables?
post #1350 of 1713
^^^
You don't believe the manual? AFAiK, network inputs only feed the main and Zone 2. Not sure what you mean by switching the outputs without switching the cables. Please explain.
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