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post #1651 of 1712
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Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post

As an owner of your display and of a different Pioneer receiver with the same chip - turn off any processing in the receiver and let the Panasonic do it. If anyone is buying a receiver for its video chips, that's very debatable on whether it is really worth it. Love the D3 amps though.

Thanks. I've just never had this "level" of receiver before so didn't know if it had a really good chip in it or not...
post #1652 of 1712
^^
It does, the Marvell Qdeo chip, same video processor Pioneer & Oppo use in their BD players. However, you are still better off using the one in your Panasonic TV because 1) it's one of the best plasmas available so it's processor can't be second-rate, 2) better in theory to let the player or the TV handle resolution, any deinterlacing (for DVD's) chores and processing over HDMI. if you have a budget or older TV, running the signal thru the Pioneer could potentially be better but in this case, probably not.

until several years ago, Pioneer never even allowed the video processor to work on HDMI inputs because they wanted the player or TV to do scaling & processing plus it eliminates one extra step in the HDMI-handshake circuitry and avoids some potential quirky issues. but they bowed to customer pressure and finally made the processor available for HDMI inputs. it's possible for some new owner to set a resolution in the player and if he changed the resolution in the receiver from the default Auto or Through, the signal gets re-scaled to another resolution, then the TV takes the re-scaled video and processes it yet again to get 1080p with possible artifacts and motion or frame judder from being scaled 3 times.
post #1653 of 1712
From what I understand if I'm running 7 speakers on the receiver I'm not going to get a full 130 watts of power to each channel. I have heard the more speakers I add, the output power decreases to each speaker.

My question is; if I add a external amp to run 3 of the 7 speakers will the receiver automatically realize this and feed more power to the other channels that are being driven by the receiver?

Thanks
post #1654 of 1712
I have recently begun having a problem with audio syncing with video after watching TV for some amount of time -- usually more than 45 minutes or so. The audio starts to lag behind the picture.

Turning the SC-1522 off and then on fixes the problem, which sometimes returns and often does not. I've had the receiver for about 8 months.

TV comes in via FIOS into a Tivo Premiere and then into the receiver by HDMI and then HDMI out to a two-year-old Samsung LCD TV. Since turning the receiver on and off fixes the issue, it seems to me that the problem is in the 1522.

Have any of you an idea of what this could be or how I could troubleshoot further?

Many thanks,

David
post #1655 of 1712
Has anyone tried using the headphone output with some nicer headphones?

Does anyone know the output impedance of the headphone jack?

Does it use the D amps for the speakers and use a resistor series to attenuate the signal down for headphones, or does it have a separate amp for the headphone jack?
post #1656 of 1712
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dmarcusap View Post

I have recently begun having a problem with audio syncing with video after watching TV for some amount of time -- usually more than 45 minutes or so. The audio starts to lag behind the picture.

Turning the SC-1522 off and then on fixes the problem, which sometimes returns and often does not. I've had the receiver for about 8 months.

TV comes in via FIOS into a Tivo Premiere and then into the receiver by HDMI and then HDMI out to a two-year-old Samsung LCD TV. Since turning the receiver on and off fixes the issue, it seems to me that the problem is in the 1522.

Have any of you an idea of what this could be or how I could troubleshoot further?

Many thanks,

David

What happens if you bypass the receiver and connect Tivo directly to TV? Samsung TVs are notorious for AV sync problems.

Make sure you updated to latest firmware via USB flash drive. Try turn off the video processing of the receiver on Tivo input (it is on by default and settings remembered for each input).
post #1657 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Goride View Post

Has anyone tried using the headphone output with some nicer headphones?

Does anyone know the output impedance of the headphone jack?

Does it use the D amps for the speakers and use a resistor series to attenuate the signal down for headphones, or does it have a separate amp for the headphone jack?

I seriously doubt it is using the D amps. Headphones need very little power. When you use headphones, all the normal audio processing will be disabled. The audio get directed to a different path for headphone output. You can have a few choices of surround processing but no MCACC.
post #1658 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

I seriously doubt it is using the D amps. Headphones need very little power. When you use headphones, all the normal audio processing will be disabled. The audio get directed to a different path for headphone output. You can have a few choices of surround processing but no MCACC.


Well you shouldn't need MCACC anyway with headphones, because you are not correcting room variances when the headphones are attached to your head tongue.gif


It is true headphones do not need as much power, but often on receivers the headphone jack actually does use the same amplification, they just use a series of resisters to attenuate the signal (I think that is the terminology anyway). But not all receivers do this, some have separate amps for the headphones.
post #1659 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Goride View Post

Well you shouldn't need MCACC anyway with headphones, because you are not correcting room variances when the headphones are attached to your head tongue.gif

What if one of my ears is bigger than the other? wink.gif
post #1660 of 1712
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Originally Posted by ScAndal View Post

What if one of my ears is bigger than the other? wink.gif

You will need implant the MCACC mic inside your head to calibrate it first before you can use it to match your ears smile.gif
post #1661 of 1712
anyone know how to output video to tv, but instead of cable tv audio, can i play pandora and use the speakers instead?

I just want to watch tv, but no sound, the sound i want to come out of speaker is pandora's radio.
Is it possible?
post #1662 of 1712
Thread Starter 
Not possible. Connect your cable box directly to the TV instead.
post #1663 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

What happens if you bypass the receiver and connect Tivo directly to TV? Samsung TVs are notorious for AV sync problems.

Make sure you updated to latest firmware via USB flash drive. Try turn off the video processing of the receiver on Tivo input (it is on by default and settings remembered for each input).

You were right! It's the TV. It took a while, but I found the same problem when I went direct from the Tivo. Thanks so much for your help; I wouldn't have thought of that myself.

Now, to see what's up with this on the Samsung forum...
post #1664 of 1712
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Originally Posted by drunkenmastera View Post

anyone know how to output video to tv, but instead of cable tv audio, can i play pandora and use the speakers instead?

I just want to watch tv, but no sound, the sound i want to come out of speaker is pandora's radio.
Is it possible?

I was wondering if this was possible as well. Anyone know if this can be done?
post #1665 of 1712
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Originally Posted by drunkenmastera View Post

anyone know how to output video to tv, but instead of cable tv audio, can i play pandora and use the speakers instead?

I just want to watch tv, but no sound, the sound i want to come out of speaker is pandora's radio.
Is it possible?

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Originally Posted by jugger View Post

I was wondering if this was possible as well. Anyone know if this can be done?

Simple, connect your cable / antenna / satellite box directly to the TV, turn off the TV volume and then you can change the source to Pandora on your receiver.
post #1666 of 1712
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post


Simple, connect your cable / antenna / satellite box directly to the TV, turn off the TV volume and then you can change the source to Pandora on your receiver.

Connecting a cable or sat box directly to the tv can cause issues when you want to use the AVR for sound. When you go directly to the tv via hdmi, many (not all) tv's don't pass dd 5.1 sound back to the AVR via optical or ARC connections. Since some sets do, YMMV.

If you have a tv which doesn't pass 5.1 back, an option is to split the hdmi output from the box sending it to both the AVR and TV. You can get a splitter from monoprice starting around $40. Use the direct to TV output when you want pandora, use the AVR output when you want to listen to TV using the AVR.
post #1667 of 1712
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Originally Posted by apaulct View Post

Connecting a cable or sat box directly to the tv can cause issues when you want to use the AVR for sound. When you go directly to the tv via hdmi, many (not all) tv's don't pass dd 5.1 sound back to the AVR via optical or ARC connections. Since some sets do, YMMV.

If you have a tv which doesn't pass 5.1 back, an option is to split the hdmi output from the box sending it to both the AVR and TV. You can get a splitter from monoprice starting around $40. Use the direct to TV output when you want pandora, use the AVR output when you want to listen to TV using the AVR.



...or another solution would be to run HDMI to TV and optical/digital to AVR if the box has that option.

Tony
post #1668 of 1712
I am having a problem where my SC-1522 is locked into stereo only for broadcast HD channels from my tivo premiere. It will not process the Dolby Digital feed. I have double checked the tivo settings to make sure "dolby audio" is selected. I was able to test out the receiver with some blu-rays and Netflix, and both work fine on DD/DTS material. This leads me to believe that the tivo premiere is not outputting DD to the receiver. Anyone had this problem? Is there a setting on the receiver/remote that I am overlooking that's causing the 1522 to be locked into stereo w/ HD broadcasting? Thanks for your help.
post #1669 of 1712
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Originally Posted by spacecowboy View Post

I am having a problem where my SC-1522 is locked into stereo only for broadcast HD channels from my tivo premiere. It will not process the Dolby Digital feed. I have double checked the tivo settings to make sure "dolby audio" is selected. I was able to test out the receiver with some blu-rays and Netflix, and both work fine on DD/DTS material. This leads me to believe that the tivo premiere is not outputting DD to the receiver. Anyone had this problem? Is there a setting on the receiver/remote that I am overlooking that's causing the 1522 to be locked into stereo w/ HD broadcasting? Thanks for your help.

I've noticed it too. Only certain HD programs will have DD or like Netflix 3D will do DD Plus audio. Like on my Time Warner Cable, if I go to any of the Music Choice channels and listen to some random music, it's only in stereo. So say the broadcaster or cable provider is sending the signal in Stereo, is there any way or setting to make the 1522-K change/covert it to Dolby Digital?
post #1670 of 1712
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Originally Posted by gasdag View Post

I've noticed it too. Only certain HD programs will have DD or like Netflix 3D will do DD Plus audio. Like on my Time Warner Cable, if I go to any of the Music Choice channels and listen to some random music, it's only in stereo. So say the broadcaster or cable provider is sending the signal in Stereo, is there any way or setting to make the 1522-K change/covert it to Dolby Digital?

If all the cableco is transmitting is 2 channels, that's all you get ... you can't convert it to DD. You can, however, use the various listening modes available on the 1522 to simulate multichannel input & use all your speakers . Check pg 55-56 of the manual. I personally like Ext. Stereo for listening to music. Try them and pick whatever sounds best to you.
post #1671 of 1712
Thread Starter 
Depending on what you are listening to, e.g. TV shows vs music, you can use either Dolby ProLogic or Neo X. processing to convert 2-ch stereo into fake surround sound.
post #1672 of 1712
One more question on this. Everything I own, including my crystal set, seems to offer Netflix but I've learned here that all suppliers aren't delivering the same product. Sometimes I notice that a desired program might advertise having 5.1 audio but, when I play it my Pioneer, it outputs ProLogic X which is my default mode. I haven't then immediately gone to another Netflix source of the same program to see if it is able to run the 5.1 but I guess this would complete the experiment.

If the source (Apple TV, Roku stick, Oppo, Tivo or anything else) is pumping out 5.1 will the Pioneer automatically switch to an enhanced setting showing the little graphic with more active speakers? Or, if I have certain modes selected on the Pioneer, like ProLogic X, will these override and downgrade the 5.1? (The Pioneer is the last unit in my chain before speakers and TV.)
post #1673 of 1712
Thread Starter 
The pioneer's own display will show number of channels in the source. So, if you see 5.1 read speaker icons show up, you know the source is 5.1. You can also press STATUS button on remote to display the exact source information on screen. DPL II can be applied to two-channel or 5.1 source if you have a 7.1 setup. It is automatic and won't down grade if you use DPL II processing or Neo. X processing.
post #1674 of 1712
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Originally Posted by spacecowboy View Post

I am having a problem where my SC-1522 is locked into stereo only for broadcast HD channels from my tivo premiere. It will not process the Dolby Digital feed. I have double checked the tivo settings to make sure "dolby audio" is selected. I was able to test out the receiver with some blu-rays and Netflix, and both work fine on DD/DTS material. This leads me to believe that the tivo premiere is not outputting DD to the receiver. Anyone had this problem? Is there a setting on the receiver/remote that I am overlooking that's causing the 1522 to be locked into stereo w/ HD broadcasting? Thanks for your help.

I've seen this happen with my 1522 as well. Let's say, after I am watching TV through my Dish-TV satellite box with the Pioneer 1522 in "stand-by" mode, and I'm watching a program that I KNOW is broadcast in HD-5.1, when I turn on the 1522 from stand-by mode, it will lock on in a 2-channel signal rather than what is being broadcast in 5.1. However, all I have to do is switch the station and go back to the original channel and it will lock onto the DD-5.1 signal just fine. Not sure why it requires a channel change to do that, but it does. It's a minor inconvenience, nothing major to be sure.
post #1675 of 1712
Thread Starter 
AVR will not lock on a specific mode. Source devices do (like your TiVo or Satellite box). These boxes nee to do a HDMI handshake to obtain EDID in order to determine what format it should output. If you initially only powered on TV with AVR in by-pass mode. Your TV will tell the box that it can only send out PCM 2.0. So the box did. When you power the AVR on, ideally, the box should detect the change the do another round of handshake. But it didn't. So it continues to output PCM 2.0. Same goes for other boxes. HDMI handshake is what determines the output format, not AVR itself. However, it is not always easy to perform perfect handshake.
post #1676 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

AVR will not lock on a specific mode. Source devices do (like your TiVo or Satellite box). These boxes nee to do a HDMI handshake to obtain EDID in order to determine what format it should output. If you initially only powered on TV with AVR in by-pass mode. Your TV will tell the box that it can only send out PCM 2.0. So the box did. When you power the AVR on, ideally, the box should detect the change the do another round of handshake. But it didn't. So it continues to output PCM 2.0. Same goes for other boxes. HDMI handshake is what determines the output format, not AVR itself. However, it is not always easy to perform perfect handshake.

Good point. It makes more sense that it's a handshake issue, because in stand-by mode (with HDMI pass-through "on" to the TV), the receiver acts like it isn't there, so the sat-box only sends the 2.0 PCM to the TV. But when I turn the receiver on, the sat-box has to re-establish the "handshake" with the Pioneer, which then says it is "OK" to send a DD-5.1 signal. At any rate, that may be what "Spacecowboy" was experiencing. Thanks for the clarification BTW.
Edited by N2AUDIO - 1/9/14 at 10:28am
post #1677 of 1712
Thread Starter 
Anyone has problem with the new Wolverine BD disc? My Netflix rental will only show up as DTS ES instead of DTS-HD 7.1 on my 1522. This is the first disc that show this problem. I'm using Sony BD-S5100 player.
post #1678 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Anyone has problem with the new Wolverine BD disc? My Netflix rental will only show up as DTS ES instead of DTS-HD 7.1 on my 1522. This is the first disc that show this problem. I'm using Sony BD-S5100 player.

Hi Foxbat121, play this disc last night (Netflix rental) using Sony S790 and it showed up as DTSHD-MA through Denon X4000.
post #1679 of 1712
Thread Starter 
Thanks but that doesn't help me narrow down the culprits. I have a feeling it is the AVR but I need someone using the same AVR to post.

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post #1680 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Anyone has problem with the new Wolverine BD disc? My Netflix rental will only show up as DTS ES instead of DTS-HD 7.1 on my 1522. This is the first disc that show this problem. I'm using Sony BD-S5100 player.

Some BD rentals do not have HD Audio. So go under the setup options of the BD and make sure the HD audio is selected, and your BD player is set to bitstream.
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