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post #31 of 1717
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Originally Posted by masterslacker View Post

Setup was pretty simple although I have no idea if my surround back speakers are working with the various sources. I'm not sure what configurations allow them to be on. I'm watching Frankenweenie which is supposedly DTS 7.1 but does that mean front wide/heights instead of surround backs? I don't know.



My front wides come on Wednesday so we'll see how that affects everything.
What are you getting for wides? and what do you use for your LCR
post #32 of 1717
I will have a full M&K S-5000 front...old school. With the money I saved on the receiver, I'll probably get a 5 channel amp in short while to drive the entire front speaker set.

My old receiver was 12 years old and didn't have HDMI switching or any of the new audio modes obviously. It's night and day with all the features.

The weird thing is it doesn't have a "GAME" labeled HDMI input.
post #33 of 1717
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RE: *Official* Pioneer SC-1522 9.2 Network ready AV receiver owners thread

Probably due to the fact that the target audience of this $1500 receiver isn't going to or interested in playing games in HT;)

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post #34 of 1717
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Originally Posted by masterslacker View Post

The weird thing is it doesn't have a "GAME" labeled HDMI input.

so, go into the setup & relabel one of them GAME wink.gif
read the manual.
post #35 of 1717
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

so, go into the setup & relabel one of them GAME wink.gif
read the manual.

+1
post #36 of 1717
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About discrete remote commands,

Anyone got any problem finding discrete IR commands for HDMI input switch, especially on Harmony remotes? The stock remote only comes with following buttons for HDMI inputs:

1. BD
2. DVD (HDMI1)
3. SAT/CBL (HDMI2)
4. DVR/BDR (HDMI3)
5. MHL (HDMI5)

Video (HDMI4), HDMI6, HDMI7 do not have buttons on remote. You will have to use HDMI button to cycle through it.

I manage to 'borrow' the InputVideo1 IR code from the SC-65 database. And it works for Video (HDMI4) input. But I can't find anything for HDMI6 and HDMI7.

The posted Pioneer official spread sheet of the IR codes also listed another set of commands (HDMI1 to HDMI7) and various Pioneer receiver models also listed InputHdmi1 to InputHdmi4 remote commands (just not SC-1522). But these commands never did anything to switch to the particular inputs when I tried. This is the case for my old VSX-92 as well.

Currently, I have all but HDMI 5, 6 and 7 inputs used/occupied and enough discrete codes to handle input switch. But if I'm going to use HDMI6 and 7 down the road, there is no discrete code to switch the inputs and hence hard to program Harmony Activity to use these two HDMI inputs.
post #37 of 1717
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Originally Posted by masterslacker View Post

The weird thing is it doesn't have a "GAME" labeled HDMI input.

According to official Pioneer receiver IR code spreadsheet, only following 2012 models have GAME input IR command:

VSX-42, VSC-522, VSX-822, VSX-1022
post #38 of 1717
I am new to Pioneer and spent two days wiring and then setting up the receiver, Harmony 700 and other odds and ends. I originally plugged my Apple TV into HDMI-4 but couldn't access it from the remote. I moved it over to HDMI-1 and now it comes up when I press "HDMI". The Harmony setup only offered me the choice of HDMI, not numbered HDMIs.

I don't know how I would remotely access anything plugged into HDMI-4. I did everything through AVNavigator because I couldn't find another way to get anything recognized. Is AVNavigator essential? If so, a lot of folks are going to get upset because running it and tapping the link on-screen, the most intuitive way, will get you the Japanese version. The way that worked for me was to execute it directly from the disc menu, which brings up English and French. I printed the manual (123 pages) and had Kinko's bind it which makes the setup a lot easier.

The only thing it doesn't do, that I would like, is to run sound directly to the TV speakers. I used this audio on my old Onkyo to deliver sound to earphones when I wanted a silent room. I see I can use the "THROUGH" command to do this but it takes a couple more steps.

I'm using Klipsch Heresys for my L/R speakers and the sound test decided for me that I had enough bass from them and the Pioneer puts out nothing from the left-side SUBWOOFERr plug. I moved the cable over to the SUBWOOFER 1 pre-amp and now have enough bass to crack windows!

I love the Pioneer so far and am happy I just happened to walk down the right aisle at Costco the other night and got stopped in my tracks.
post #39 of 1717
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Originally Posted by alnilam1 View Post

I am new to Pioneer and spent two days wiring and then setting up the receiver, Harmony 700 and other odds and ends. I originally plugged my Apple TV into HDMI-4 but couldn't access it from the remote. I moved it over to HDMI-1 and now it comes up when I press "HDMI". The Harmony setup only offered me the choice of HDMI, not numbered HDMIs.

I have two Harmony remotes. So I can borrow any code from other device profiles. As I posted above, I use InputVideo1 command from other Pioneer receiver to learn into my current receiver profile. And this Input command will switch to HDMI4/Video input directly. If you have trouble set this up or don't have a second Harmony handy, you can send Logitech support an email asking them to add it to your account.
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I don't know how I would remotely access anything plugged into HDMI-4. I did everything through AVNavigator because I couldn't find another way to get anything recognized. Is AVNavigator essential? If so, a lot of folks are going to get upset because running it and tapping the link on-screen, the most intuitive way, will get you the Japanese version. The way that worked for me was to execute it directly from the disc menu, which brings up English and French. I printed the manual (123 pages) and had Kinko's bind it which makes the setup a lot easier.

AV Navigator is not necessary. I downloaded the manual file directly from Pioneer's website.
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The only thing it doesn't do, that I would like, is to run sound directly to the TV speakers. I used this audio on my old Onkyo to deliver sound to earphones when I wanted a silent room. I see I can use the "THROUGH" command to do this but it takes a couple more steps.

As with any HDMI AVR, if you pass sound to TV speakers through HDMI (THROUGH mode), your AVR speakers will no longer have any sound. You can only have one way or another, not both. If you want TV to have sound when AVR is not on, setup HDMI pass-through settings which will allow one HDMI source to remain active and pass audio and video to TV even when AVR is off.
post #40 of 1717
I also was one of the lucky ones to get this unit.

Right now I have the following hardware:

Panasonic 42" LCD tv (TC-L42u5)
Panasonic DMP BD-T215 (yes, from Costco)
Pioneer 1522-K
Direct TV (older style, not the Genie) HD DVR cablebox.
Older Sony CD 5-disc carosel (has an optical out on it, pretty forward thinking for 1990!)
Oppo DVD-81 (the non-bluray one) (not connected).
Speakers are a mishmash of stuff I have collected over the years, Yamaha Mains, Klisch center, EV inceilings for rear surrounds, HSU STF-2 Sub (main), Yamaha sub for (secondary). I do have a set of Mission 762's that I am not using (thinking of these as front effects, but they are WAY too big, the WAF on that setup would be low).

A couple of questions:

I have it wired for 5.2 configuration at the moment. Securing a center rear (for 6.2 setup), and will add that later this week.

1. I don't have the second subwoofer showing up. How do I get that to work? It is not a matched sub, just a secondary one. MCACC calibration only found the 1 sub.

2. Will the Blu-ray audio formats (DTS-HD or whatever they are) work on a 5.2 setup or is a minimum of 6.1 required?

3. Sound levels after calibration? I find that that I have the volume at -28db or so for normal listening in a living room. Is this typical?

4. I have a Wii and a Playstation 2 (yes the old one), that I want to hook up. Can I run the HDMI out and have the signals coming in from the various hardware? I have Red/Yellow/White from the PS2, and a HDMI and analog audio cable coming from the Wii (yes, there is a Wii to HDMI adaptor). What inputs do you suggest I use? I am only using HDMI input 2 for Sat/Cable for DirectTV, and the DVR/BDR for the Blu-ray player.

Contemplating running the Wii to the DVD HDMI hookup, and Audio line into the reciever under the DVD analog connection.

What should I use the PS2 analog?

Thanks for all the help everyone. Cool setup for sure. Will take some learning to get it all figured out.
post #41 of 1717
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1. It didn't show up for me either. Since MCACC calibration doesn't EQ subwoofers (only channel level), it really doesn't matter much. I know the second sub works.
2. It should work. The receiver will take care of remapping the speakers. Why settle for 6.1 when you have to go through the trouble setup additional speaker?
3. -28db is quite normal. That's what I use most of the time.
4. Yes, the receiver converts analog video into digital and its Qdeo video processor is top notch for process SD videos. There is no need to buy any analog to HDMI converter. There is really no gain for you to spent extra $$ to get this kind of conversion when your receiver can already do it for you.
post #42 of 1717
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

About discrete remote commands,

Anyone got any problem finding discrete IR commands for HDMI input switch, especially on Harmony remotes? The stock remote only comes with following buttons for HDMI inputs:

1. BD
2. DVD (HDMI1)
3. SAT/CBL (HDMI2)
4. DVR/BDR (HDMI3)
5. MHL (HDMI5)

Video (HDMI4), HDMI6, HDMI7 do not have buttons on remote. You will have to use HDMI button to cycle through it.

I manage to 'borrow' the InputVideo1 IR code from the SC-65 database. And it works for Video (HDMI4) input. But I can't find anything for HDMI6 and HDMI7.

The posted Pioneer official spread sheet of the IR codes also listed another set of commands (HDMI1 to HDMI7) and various Pioneer receiver models also listed InputHdmi1 to InputHdmi4 remote commands (just not SC-1522). But these commands never did anything to switch to the particular inputs when I tried. This is the case for my old VSX-92 as well.

Currently, I have all but HDMI 5, 6 and 7 inputs used/occupied and enough discrete codes to handle input switch. But if I'm going to use HDMI6 and 7 down the road, there is no discrete code to switch the inputs and hence hard to program Harmony Activity to use these two HDMI inputs.

Did you figure this out? I'm trying to get my harmony remote to learn 5, 6, and 7 as well.
post #43 of 1717
Thread Starter 
As I posted above, I got all but HDMI 6 and 7. HDMI 5 is the MHL button on the remote and it is already in the database.
post #44 of 1717
I just picked one of these up at my local costco too. Cant wait to get it hooked up. So this thing can do 9.2?? I might need to experiment with adding some surrounds. Thinking a 8.1 with a center rear, is that possible?
post #45 of 1717
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

As I posted above, I got all but HDMI 6 and 7. HDMI 5 is the MHL button on the remote and it is already in the database.

Foxbat, which Harmony remotes do you have? Do you have one that supports sequences, like the One?
post #46 of 1717
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Originally Posted by FusionRx View Post


1. I don't have the second subwoofer showing up. How do I get that to work? It is not a matched sub, just a secondary one. MCACC calibration only found the 1 sub.

If your 2 subs are connected to the 2 subwoofer pre outs on the back of the receiver, this is the correct behavior. This is because the 2 connections are essentially a Y connector built into the receiver, and 2 subs appear to the receiver as 1.
post #47 of 1717
Ok I need some suggestions.

To get this receiver I will have to drive at least an hour and pay taxes. My state I don't have to pay taxes, but they said that they will have to clear their existing product which is the Yamaha receiver and only then will they get theses and he said they have 20 of them remaining, so about 10 weeks before they get the pioneer.

So the closes one is 1 hour away. worth it?

The reason I ask is because I have HTIB which I learned have 3ohms speakers and surround and 6 ohms center and 6 ohm sub. Capture.PNG 155k .PNG file

so I won't be able to use the speakers, which mean I need to but separate speakers. I was going to upgrade but in a while.


I feel like if I buy the receiver now I will not be able to use it, since I won't be able to buy speakers for atleast a few months.

Also, want to confirm with owners, can you play spotify from you iPhone, ipad through this receiver without any issues?

What do you think I should do?
post #48 of 1717
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Originally Posted by dharel View Post

Foxbat, which Harmony remotes do you have? Do you have one that supports sequences, like the One?

Yes, mine do support sequences but I'd prefer direct access because sequences never worked well for me in the past (too slow and error prone).
post #49 of 1717
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Yes, mine do support sequences but I'd prefer direct access because sequences never worked well for me in the past (too slow and error prone).

Understood. I just wanted to make sure that you've at least given them some thought. They seem to be working well for me, but I'm only using them to turn lights on/off, etc. when playing, stopping or pausing movies.
post #50 of 1717
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Originally Posted by sid369 View Post

Ok I need some suggestions.

To get this receiver I will have to drive at least an hour and pay taxes. My state I don't have to pay taxes, but they said that they will have to clear their existing product which is the Yamaha receiver and only then will they get theses and he said they have 20 of them remaining, so about 10 weeks before they get the pioneer.

So the closes one is 1 hour away. worth it?

The reason I ask is because I have HTIB which I learned have 3ohms speakers and surround and 6 ohms center and 6 ohm sub. Capture.PNG 155k .PNG file

so I won't be able to use the speakers, which mean I need to but separate speakers. I was going to upgrade but in a while.


I feel like if I buy the receiver now I will not be able to use it, since I won't be able to buy speakers for atleast a few months.

Also, want to confirm with owners, can you play spotify from you iPhone, ipad through this receiver without any issues?

What do you think I should do?

Deal like this doesn't come that often. I drove 4 hours around town last week to locate one.

But each person have their own priorities in life. You just have to listen to your heart smile.gif

I'd say without decent speakers and powerful subwoofers, all the power this receiver can handle is just wasted.
post #51 of 1717
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Originally Posted by masterslacker View Post

Setup was pretty simple although I have no idea if my surround back speakers are working with the various sources. I'm not sure what configurations allow them to be on. I'm watching Frankenweenie which is supposedly DTS 7.1 but does that mean front wide/heights instead of surround backs? I don't know.

My front wides come on Wednesday so we'll see how that affects everything.

A 7.1 surround system has seven discrete audio channels, Left, Right, Center, Left Surround, Right Surround, Left and Right Back, and of course, the Subwoofer. DTS 7.1 follows that standard. Wides are just an extension of this.

As already mentioned in another post, use PLIIx or Neo:X to convert 5.1 tracks to 7.1 if you have a 7.1 setup.
post #52 of 1717
I got one of these the other day and I am very impressed with the sound. While I was setting it up I noticed a slight buzzing coming from the top left front of the receiver. It seems to be coming from the transformer which is located in the top left front corner of the receiver. There is also a fan that I can hear that turns on several seconds after the power button is pushed but the buzzing starts immediately after the power button is pushed and seems to get slightly louder when the fan starts which could just be an acoustical illusion. The buzzing is very light and is only barely noticeable when you are 1 of 2 feet from the receiver and the room is silent. It doesn't bother me or disturb the listening environment but I have read through everything I can find and it seems that if there is any noise at all coming from the transformer it could be a sign of a problem or a potential problem in the future. I was just wondering if anyone else with this unit has noticed any transformer buzz of any level coming from the receiver. I can exchange it if I need to but I don't want to have to do that if the buzz is considered a normal, commonly occurring condition with this line of receivers.

Thanks in advance.
post #53 of 1717
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Originally Posted by dvdmann View Post

I got one of these the other day and I am very impressed with the sound. While I was setting it up I noticed a slight buzzing coming from the top left front of the receiver. It seems to be coming from the transformer which is located in the top left front corner of the receiver. There is also a fan that I can hear that turns on several seconds after the power button is pushed but the buzzing starts immediately after the power button is pushed and seems to get slightly louder when the fan starts which could just be an acoustical illusion. The buzzing is very light and is only barely noticeable when you are 1 of 2 feet from the receiver and the room is silent. It doesn't bother me or disturb the listening environment but I have read through everything I can find and it seems that if there is any noise at all coming from the transformer it could be a sign of a problem or a potential problem in the future. I was just wondering if anyone else with this unit has noticed any transformer buzz of any level coming from the receiver. I can exchange it if I need to but I don't want to have to do that if the buzz is considered a normal, commonly occurring condition with this line of receivers.

Thanks in advance.

Transformer buzz/hum is caused by DC current leaking into the AC line.

You might want to consider something like this: http://shop.emotiva.com/products/cmx2
post #54 of 1717
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Deal like this doesn't come that often. I drove 4 hours around town last week to locate one.

But each person have their own priorities in life. You just have to listen to your heart smile.gif

I'd say without decent speakers and powerful subwoofers, all the power this receiver can handle is just wasted.

I hear what you are saying, and I do want to get it, but I feel like it will be collecting dust until I but new speakers and subs, which will be a couple of month from now. I was hoping atleast I could salvage something from the HTIB and temporarily use the speakers and sub from HTIB.

But looks like if I do us eth HTIB speakers it will damage the receiver.

I think the only thing that I would be able to use would be the center channel.

will I be able to use a passive sub with tis receiver?
post #55 of 1717
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No. Passive sub are only going to work with HTIB (to save money). All the decent receivers don't have amp for subs. The reason is subs need specialty amps that requires a lot more powers. I'd suggest you get a powered sub at least 400w and up.

Your surrounds are 6ohm speakers, right? If so, you can still use them. Surrounds are not that import anyway.
post #56 of 1717
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Originally Posted by Sam S View Post

Transformer buzz/hum is caused by DC current leaking into the AC line.

You might want to consider something like this: http://shop.emotiva.com/products/cmx2


Thanks for the link.

I have read several posts where receivers that had buzz/hum coming from the transformers were swapped out with a new replacement of the same model and the buzz/hum was gone, that is why I was concerned that the transformer could be defective in some fashion.

Thanks again.
post #57 of 1717
What mode should I use for 5.1 via bluray and htpc? I'm assuming direct?

I understand that there are modes for converting 5.1 -> 7.1 or 9.1 but what is the optimal for 5.1?
post #58 of 1717
Does anyone know the OHM rating on the bose single cube speakers? I read somewhere that the bose speakers could cause damage to certain receivers?

I had those running on my yamaha for years and just upgraded to this receiver. I know I am not using the full potential of this thing and that the bose speakers aren't the best quality out there, but I have it in a small place (in a buildling) and am trying to keep the speakers small in size till we get a bigger room to put it in, where I can buy a nice set of speakers. The wife doesn't want the bigger uglier speakers coming into play until we have the space and capability to turn them up a lot higher.
post #59 of 1717
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Use Standard button to cycle through different mode. One of them will be no processing, i.e. same as source. Direct has different meanings. There is Direct and Pure direct. One turns off MCACC calibration but leave channel levels intact and bass management intact. The other turns off all processing.

If you have a 7.1 setup, PL IIx or Neo:X is still preferred for 5.1 BD audio because 5.1 and 7.1 speaker layout are totally different. In 7.1 setup, the back surround channels of 5.1 are on the side of you, not back. You will have a big hole in your sound field in the back without conversion.
post #60 of 1717
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Originally Posted by explorer3253 View Post

Does anyone know the OHM rating on the bose single cube speakers? I read somewhere that the bose speakers could cause damage to certain receivers?

Doesn't Bose speakers use different kind of speaker cable and connectors?
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