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post #481 of 1712
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HDMI is capable of 7.1 LPCM output. As long as your game supports it (which is the question for individual games), there shouldn't be a problem.

Yep, your right, 5.1 in Bioshock Infinite again. Thanks, now I just need to find a long HDMI cable that works with my GTX 570.
post #482 of 1712
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Originally Posted by N2AUDIO View Post

Makes me a little worried about the longevity of this product hearing this about a former "SC-" model. Even the manual indicates that when the iPod light is blinking, it's time to call a Pioneer serviceman. Sure hope that doesn't happen to mine. Anybody still own a first generation SC- model that's still running and, if so, how old is it?

My SC-35 just crapped out a few weeks back. Powers on and blinking ipod light, as well. Luckily, it was costco bought and they handed me all my money back. Ended up buying a 1222, Costcos around here didn't have the 1522. Hoping this 1222 holds up better than my Elite.
post #483 of 1712
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Originally Posted by N2AUDIO View Post

Makes me a little worried about the longevity of this product hearing this about a former "SC-" model. Even the manual indicates that when the iPod light is blinking, it's time to call a Pioneer serviceman. Sure hope that doesn't happen to mine. Anybody still own a first generation SC- model that's still running and, if so, how old is it?

How about a 5 yr old SC-09TX ($7K) and a 9 mo old SC-68? The SC-09 has never shutdown or required a reset nor has the SC-68. There are many owners with SC-07/05, SC-27/25, SC-37/35 still here & a few of us with the original flagship SC-09 released in early 2008 still around.

and the manual isn't going to give you the "secret" diagnostics & reset procedure that are in the service manual which many here have used to success. if you search the threads, you'll find many references to the power amp reset.

there are protection shutdowns for things like stray DC current, over-current, surges, that Pioneer & for the Ice amp generations, put in to protect the switch mode power supply that class D amps use.

some of you seem to be over-worrying. IME with Pioneer products and the SC models, they are robust & no more problems than other brands. just ask Onkyo receiver owners about the reliability of theirs...with overheating problems and thousands of failed HDMI boards plus poor customer service.
post #484 of 1712
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Originally Posted by MrEastSide View Post

My SC-35 just crapped out a few weeks back. Powers on and blinking ipod light, as well. Luckily, it was costco bought and they handed me all my money back. Ended up buying a 1222, Costcos around here didn't have the 1522. Hoping this 1222 holds up better than my Elite.

did you ask in the SC-35 thread about this before dumping it?

we could have given you the amp reset procedure for Ice amp model from the service manual to try. most of the time, it works. see my post just above.

if you did try it & it was still stuck in error mode, then yes, you did the right thing.

but if you didn't try it, then you might have saved yourself the aggravation.

whether the 35 is "better" choice depends on how much value you place on the latest features vs one with more power, more connections, better build quality. no offense, but IMHO, unless you had to have NeoX widths, and added network & media streaming connectivity, the SC-35 might have served you for years. in today's line-up, the SC-35 would be the equivalent of the SC-67, next to the top model. going to the low cost 1222, you just might have gone backwards.
Edited by ss9001 - 4/22/13 at 3:19am
post #485 of 1712
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

did you ask in the SC-35 thread about this before dumping it?

we could have given you the amp reset procedure for Ice amp model from the service manual to try. most of the time, it works. see my post just above.

if you did try it & it was still stuck in error mode, then yes, you did the right thing.

but if you didn't try it, then you might have saved yourself the aggravation.

whether the 35 is "better" choice depends on how much value you place on the latest features vs one with more power, more connections, better build quality. no offense, but IMHO, unless you had to have NeoX widths, and added network & media streaming connectivity, the SC-35 might have served you for years. in today's line-up, the SC-35 would be the equivalent of the SC-67, next to the top model. going to the low cost 1222, you just might have gone backwards.

Yeah, I tried it. What was it, hold the down arrow and zone on/off on the front panel? I tried that and nothing happened. I think I tried holding each different directional button with the zone on/off button and the ipod light just continued to blink. I wish I still had it. It was a great receiver.

However, all I do is watch movies, play games and occasionally listen to music. I don't use any streaming services, I'll never utilize more than a 5.2-7.2 setup, I'm not interested in front wide/height, and I don't listen even close to reference level. So, while, nice, the SC-35 was probably overkill. Hell, the 1222 is probably overkill for what I do. Still sad to see the 35 go, though!
post #486 of 1712
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Originally Posted by MrEastSide View Post

Yeah, I tried it. What was it, hold the down arrow and zone on/off on the front panel? I tried that and nothing happened. I think I tried holding each different directional button with the zone on/off button and the ipod light just continued to blink. I wish I still had it. It was a great receiver.

that is too bad. glad you tried it, though, always worth a shot. replacing the Ice amp board is pretty expensive so you made the right decision smile.gif it probably would have cost you more for the repair than the new one cost. I agree, that is a shame. hopefully, the new one does the job for you.
post #487 of 1712
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Originally Posted by thatguyhileman View Post

Thinking about upgrading to this from an Onkyo Tx Nr901. Any thoughts as to how much of an upgrade this will be? I'm driving Infinity Primus series speakers. The Onkyo is from before HDMI was anything and so HDMI switching is a big plus. I only have 5.1 setup right now although I have some spare speakers I could use to setup 7.1. If I leave 5.1, will I see much difference? Another big problem is I just moved all my stuff into a closet and I have to leave the door open because the Onkyo gets burn your skin hot. I'm thinking the class D amps may relieve some of this heat problem. Any thoughts and input is appreciated!

Thanks

I just did this exact upgrade. I'd been using direct HDMI to my projector and letting my Harmony handle the source switching but I'd been missing out on hi res audio.

I would say it is a more than noticeable upgrade from sound quality and I would say even headroom perspective. The 901 is no slouch on power, but I believe this Pioneer wins.

I'm running 3 Cambridge Soundworks M-80's as fronts
4 Cambridge dipole/bipole surrounds
a pair of Velodyne ULD-15 subs via the Velodyne SMS-1 processor. Only using a single sub output from the Pioneer feeding that.

Ran the full auto calibration on the Pioneer.
Sources are a PS3 and a DIsh Hopper.

As far as heat is concerned, the Pioneer does get warm. I always ran a fan on my 901 but no need on the Pioneer. Honestly probably was no need on the 901 either. I have an open rack in a wiring closet with tons of airflow. Not sure if your closed rack would be an issue.

(added via edit - oh, I did have to swap out my dual banana jacks to singles since the Pioneer is not on 1 inch centers... did that a few days before the swap.)
post #488 of 1712
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Originally Posted by jamjam View Post

Anyone that is using the Pioneer Sc-1522 just for home theater, radio, internet radio, listening to music and video through your PC-are you having any problems? How does it sound/perform compared to what you had?
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I used it for all that, my wife and I are very happy with it. I went from an Onkyo RT-H960.

I use it for all of that also and it looks and sounds great, when it works. On my unit, the Media Stream option is sporadic at best. The OSD sometimes shows my connected devices but mostly shows "please wait" . I have no problem streaming from the laptop and the S3, although it takes forever to connect. Also IControlAV2012 is a fantastic app, but it doesn't connect on a regular basis either. Now before anybody says it's my network, my devices etc. when it connects, it works great, it just doesn't connect with any kind of consistency.

I hope I'm just missing a setting somewhere, I doubt it. If anybody has any suggestions, i'd appreciate it.
Edited by wpbpete - 4/22/13 at 8:31am
post #489 of 1712
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Originally Posted by wpbpete View Post


I use it for all of that also and it looks and sounds great, when it works. On my unit, the Media Stream option is sporadic at best. The OSD sometimes shows my connected devices but mostly shows "please wait" . I have no problem streaming from the laptop and the S3, although it takes forever to connect. Also IControlAV2012 is a fantastic app, but it doesn't connect on a regular basis either. Now before anybody says it's my network, my devices etc. when it connects, it works great, it just doesn't connect with any kind of consistency.

I hope I'm just missing a setting somewhere, I doubt it. If anybody has any suggestions, i'd appreciate it.
If you haven't rebooted your router, I'd give that a try. Then try going into Settings in the app, Select Product, turn AV receiver off then back on. Worth a try.
post #490 of 1712
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

and the manual isn't going to give you the "secret" diagnostics & reset procedure that are in the service manual which many here have used to success. if you search the threads, you'll find many references to the power amp reset.

Actually, the manual does indicate in the Troubleshooting section on page 101 (right-hand column list of symptoms) that if the iPod light is blinking, then this indicates a FAN STOP, which means that the internal cooling fan is malfunctioning. Perhaps all that Mr. Eastside's SC-35 needed was a new cooling fan?
post #491 of 1712
^^
yes, could be...there are a number of blinking light errors, most were related to the amp board and not in the user manual, only the service manual. you caught me on that specific one...I assumed it was one of the amp errors as did the owner redface.gif see how easy it is to jump to conclusions redface.gif

maybe you shouldn't have posted that; he might feel kind of sorry he didn't take to a shop eek.gif

the good news is you have helped others who encounter it. the bad news is Mr Eastside might not be too happy now frown.gif

you provided a very valuable lesson here - it pays to read the manual! wink.gif which is what I've preached for years. don't assume anything, like the receiver is junk, dead, doesn't work, Pioneer is at fault, or isn't reliable.

cooling fans are chintzy anyway. any of them can get noisy or just die. heck it could be just the fan connector came loose eek.gif

wow!

good job. I feel humbled.
Edited by ss9001 - 4/22/13 at 10:15am
post #492 of 1712
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

some of you seem to be over-worrying. IME with Pioneer products and the SC models, they are robust & no more problems than other brands. just ask Onkyo receiver owners about the reliability of theirs...with overheating problems and thousands of failed HDMI boards plus poor customer service.

You're right to some extent. I've owned receivers from several brands, including H/K, Marantz, NAD, and Onkyo (I'd never buy a Denon receiver, only source components from them!). I sold an Onkyo 875 only after about 1 year of use because I did not want the HDMI board self-destructing on me like Mr. Phelp's recorder from Mission Impossible. That thing put out a LOT of heat, which just literally cooks the electronics housed in it, but I digress. True, each manufacturer has its own weaknesses and failure rates just like any other.

Nevertheless, I don't think I'm over or needlessly worrying, because the approach to making electronics today is not the same as years ago. I bought a H/K AVR-680i stereo receiver back in 1983 (I know, I'm dating myself), which lasted me 10 years before one of the channels started cutting in and out. Never gave me a lick of trouble, either, until then. Today, however, components are so complex and computer driven, with "handshake" issues, internet connectivity issues, it's almost impossible to NOT to find something wrong with them. Which is why even though I bought this receiver to replace an Anthem AVM20v2.21 pre/pro (an approximately 8-year old processor that still looks and operates like new), I'm keeping the Anthem until I know there won't be any problems (e.g., like a bad internal cooling fan) with this Pioneer unit that forces me to return it to Costco. Plus, if I'm outside Costco's return policy window, I don't want to be stuck without a processor for an extended period of time. I don't anticipate that happening, however, because I'm using the Pioneer strictly as a pre/pro right now, so it stays just slightly warm even for extended listening periods. The amp I'm mating to the Pioneer is the Emotiva UPA-500 (typical Class A/B, I believe), which is rated at 80watts/ch at 8ohms, 20-20,000Hz (all channels driven), but it is a VERY dynamic amp for its size. My home theater room is only 10.5 feet wide by 12.5 feet long, so it's plenty of power for that environment. As strictly a pre/pro, however, the Pioneer probably has more features in it than most processors from even just a couple of years ago...and for a LOT less money to boot.
post #493 of 1712
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Originally Posted by wpbpete View Post


I use it for all of that also and it looks and sounds great, when it works. On my unit, the Media Stream option is sporadic at best. The OSD sometimes shows my connected devices but mostly shows "please wait" . I have no problem streaming from the laptop and the S3, although it takes forever to connect. Also IControlAV2012 is a fantastic app, but it doesn't connect on a regular basis either. Now before anybody says it's my network, my devices etc. when it connects, it works great, it just doesn't connect with any kind of consistency.

I hope I'm just missing a setting somewhere, I doubt it. If anybody has any suggestions, i'd appreciate it.

DLNA discovery is based on HTTP over UDP broadcasting, a uncommon network protocol. Some consumer routers are known to wrongly drop those packets unless you changed some unrelated settings on routers. What is your router brand?
post #494 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

DLNA discovery is based on HTTP over UDP broadcasting, a uncommon network protocol. Some consumer routers are known to wrongly drop those packets unless you changed some unrelated settings on routers. What is your router brand?
I use Uverse and it automatically sets the IP and Mac address. Keep in mind that its connected to the network and my players stream to it. Although its very sporadically, that its frustrating. The phone app is the same way. Yesterday I deleted the app and reinstalled it and same thing.
post #495 of 1712
Thread Starter 
Can't help you with your Uverse router but it seems that it is dropping the UPnP broadcasting packets. If that is the case and your receiver and PCs are connected via ethernet cables, try put a switch between your router and the receiver/PCs. This way, the broadcasting packets get chance to reach the PC. But it won't help with wireless clients.
post #496 of 1712
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Originally Posted by wpbpete View Post

I use Uverse and it automatically sets the IP and Mac address. Keep in mind that its connected to the network and my players stream to it. Although its very sporadically, that its frustrating. The phone app is the same way. Yesterday I deleted the app and reinstalled it and same thing.

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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Can't help you with your Uverse router but it seems that it is dropping the UPnP broadcasting packets. If that is the case and your receiver and PCs are connected via ethernet cables, try put a switch between your router and the receiver/PCs. This way, the broadcasting packets get chance to reach the PC. But it won't help with wireless clients.

I also use U-Verse for my Internet at home, which automatically provides an IP address to my devices. Also this IP address remains the same at all time unless I reset the U-Verse router/modem.

I also had similar issues where the iPads and iPhones would get connectivity errors. I called AT&T and the tech advised me that the AT&T 2wire router/modem was the issue. He advised me that the 2wire 3600 models were bad and need it to be replaced. He installed the 3800 model, which still had issues. He finally was able to get me a 2wire 3801 model, and all the issues went away. He told me that was the last 3801 he had, and that they are hard to get because everyone wants one. Even my wireless connection improved with the new 2wire 3801 router/modem. You might want to give AT&T a call and see if you can get one.
post #497 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Can't help you with your Uverse router but it seems that it is dropping the UPnP broadcasting packets. If that is the case and your receiver and PCs are connected via ethernet cables, try put a switch between your router and the receiver/PCs. This way, the broadcasting packets get chance to reach the PC. But it won't help with wireless clients.
thanks foxbat, I'm going to contact pioneer and see what they have to say. Either than this one frustrating thing the unit is great. Hopefully they'll be able to help me.
post #498 of 1712
Has anybody tried to use the digital opt. output, mine doesn't seem to be working while using pandora?
Edited by chewbacca121 - 4/22/13 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by wpbpete View Post

thanks foxbat, I'm going to contact pioneer and see what they have to say. Either than this one frustrating thing the unit is great. Hopefully they'll be able to help me.

See GusGus748s post above. If it is indeed a router's problem, there is very little Pioneer can do at the receiver end.
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Originally Posted by chewbacca121 View Post

Has anybody tried to use the digital opt. output, mine doesn't seem to be working while using pandora?

Digital out can only get audio from digital coax or optical input. You won't get anything if the input source is HDMI or else. It is documented in the manual.
post #501 of 1712
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

that is too bad. glad you tried it, though, always worth a shot. replacing the Ice amp board is pretty expensive so you made the right decision smile.gif it probably would have cost you more for the repair than the new one cost. I agree, that is a shame. hopefully, the new one does the job for you.


I recently received a sc-1522 purchased from an online vendor with a warranty. I plugged it in to make certain it functioned before spending a few hours swapping cables. 3 seconds after power up it displayed amp error and shut down. MCCAC light blinking. I tried the factory reset to no avail . Pioneer said they would not open a warranty claim until the 30 day warranty (warranty guy said it sucks to be me...) through the store expired and they are now out of stock. I will search for the amp reset procedure, otherwise I will return for a refund. Thanks for this info.
post #502 of 1712
^^
amp error release procedure was posted a bunch in the older Ice amp model threads, and not nearly as much for the new amp design so I'll post it & save you search time.

IMPORTANT: the release procedure for the new class D3 amp models is different than the one for previous Ice amp models based on what's in the SC-57 service manual.

try this:

During Standby mode, simultaneously press and hold the "TUNE [down arrow]" and "MULTI-ZONE ON/OFF" keys for 5 seconds.

it begs the question, what tripped a brand new unit. could be an overly sensitive circuit or it could be something with your power. even if it releases, you may still want to consider warranty work. or ask your dealer for a swap smile.gif

if still stuck, you could give the Ice amp release a try but it would be a big long shot. PM me if need to try that one. I don't want to confuse people by posting it here.
post #503 of 1712
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post


I also use U-Verse for my Internet at home, which automatically provides an IP address to my devices. Also this IP address remains the same at all time unless I reset the U-Verse router/modem.

I also had similar issues where the iPads and iPhones would get connectivity errors. I called AT&T and the tech advised me that the AT&T 2wire router/modem was the issue. He advised me that the 2wire 3600 models were bad and need it to be replaced. He installed the 3800 model, which still had issues. He finally was able to get me a 2wire 3801 model, and all the issues went away. He told me that was the last 3801 he had, and that they are hard to get because everyone wants one. Even my wireless connection improved with the new 2wire 3801 router/modem. You might want to give AT&T a call and see if you can get one.
I didn't realize that, since I haven't had any other issues with my network. But I'll call them and see if that's the case. I'll let you guys know. Thanks
post #504 of 1712
Thanks to all who helped identify the local Costcos that had the 1522. Scooped up a 1522 at Edison this morning. Had maybe a dozen left (by quick eyeball, not hard count).

-C
post #505 of 1712
Has anyone integrated this receiver into a Control4 setup? Will be doing that soon and was just curious of feedback.
post #506 of 1712
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Originally Posted by BIG INJUN CHIEF View Post

I recently received a sc-1522 purchased from an online vendor with a warranty. I plugged it in to make certain it functioned before spending a few hours swapping cables. 3 seconds after power up it displayed amp error and shut down. MCCAC light blinking. I tried the factory reset to no avail . Pioneer said they would not open a warranty claim until the 30 day warranty (warranty guy said it sucks to be me...) through the store expired and they are now out of stock. I will search for the amp reset procedure, otherwise I will return for a refund. Thanks for this info.

You might also want to make sure that you don't have any kind of a short going on with your speaker wires at the terminals. At least rule that out anyway.
post #507 of 1712
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

^^
yes, could be...there are a number of blinking light errors, most were related to the amp board and not in the user manual, only the service manual. you caught me on that specific one...I assumed it was one of the amp errors as did the owner redface.gif see how easy it is to jump to conclusions redface.gif

maybe you shouldn't have posted that; he might feel kind of sorry he didn't take to a shop eek.gif

the good news is you have helped others who encounter it. the bad news is Mr Eastside might not be too happy now frown.gif

you provided a very valuable lesson here - it pays to read the manual! wink.gif which is what I've preached for years. don't assume anything, like the receiver is junk, dead, doesn't work, Pioneer is at fault, or isn't reliable.

cooling fans are chintzy anyway. any of them can get noisy or just die. heck it could be just the fan connector came loose eek.gif

wow!

good job. I feel humbled.

I did read through the troubleshooting quite extensively, but all I saw was that a blinking ipod light could indicate a serious malfunction and to have it serviced. I didn't see anything regarding a fan fault. That said, I certainly could have missed it. Either way, I knew Costco would take it back and even though I could have taken it for service, there was obviously, no guarantee as to what the problem could be. I wouldn't want to have had a service shop open it up, find out it was an expensive repair and then have Costco not take it back because the service shop opened it up and messed around with it.

Kind of a Catch 22 and I just decided, best to return it and walk away with my $800 dollars, cash, that they gave me.
post #508 of 1712
Has anyone tried programming the Multizone functions on their Harmony 900? I know there are a few 900 owners in this thread. Seems as though I can replicate every command except for the zone control, very frustrating. I really need to make this work with rf for listening to music outside. I know all about the limitations of analog sources only and I don't need video. My previous Yamaha receivers have had seperate zone 2 and 3 remotes which I was able to teach the Harmony. The Icontrol and roomie remote apps are not an option for me. I really hope someone has an answer for me as Harmony's tech support is really difficult these days.

Thanks in advance for any help.
post #509 of 1712
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cos54 View Post

Has anyone tried programming the Multizone functions on their Harmony 900? I know there are a few 900 owners in this thread. Seems as though I can replicate every command except for the zone control, very frustrating. I really need to make this work with rf for listening to music outside. I know all about the limitations of analog sources only and I don't need video. My previous Yamaha receivers have had seperate zone 2 and 3 remotes which I was able to teach the Harmony. The Icontrol and roomie remote apps are not an option for me. I really hope someone has an answer for me as Harmony's tech support is really difficult these days.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Download the Pioneer IR code spreadsheet which contains all the zone control IR Hex codes you need. Then search for the post I made about how to import those HEX codes to your harmony in this thread.

EDIT: I have put links to those posts in the 1st post.
Edited by Foxbat121 - 4/23/13 at 7:52am
post #510 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Download the Pioneer IR code spreadsheet which contains all the zone control IR Hex codes you need. Then search for the post I made about how to import those HEX codes to your harmony in this thread.

EDIT: I have put links to those posts in the 1st post.
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