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post #61 of 1712
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Doesn't Bose speakers use different kind of speaker cable and connectors?

Not the ones I have....it appears to be a standard port for speakerwire. I've used it on the old Yamaha for over 5 years. They aren't the best sounding...it lacks a bit, but it gets the job done.
post #62 of 1712
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I see. This receiver is rated to support 4 to 16 ohm speakers. If your old Yamaha can handle it, there is no reason Pioneer can't.
post #63 of 1712
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Another tip for those programming Harmony remote for this receiver, the power on delay should be set to > 5 seconds. Otherwise, your initial input switch command will be ignored by the receiver. I believe the default is only 2 seconds.
post #64 of 1712
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Another tip for those programming Harmony remote for this receiver, the power on delay should be set to > 5 seconds. Otherwise, your initial input switch command will be ignored by the receiver. I believe the default is only 2 seconds.

Yep, I changed mine to 5 and it works perfectly for powering on and switching to the right input.
post #65 of 1712
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Yep, I changed mine to 5 and it works perfectly for powering on and switching to the right input.

My family and I hate our Harmony Remote. I think it is the 650. POS works half the time. I doesn't matter if I delay the time or not. I am glad for the iControlApp. I use that, and I renamed all of my HDMI inputs that I am using. So, my whole family knows how to use it.
post #66 of 1712
I forgot who asked for a set up screen picture. Here's what i took since I didn't know what specifically he wanted.



post #67 of 1712
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The key to Harmony is know how to program it properly with ALL discrete codes for power on/off and input selections. Unfortunately, when you setup a new device, Harmony app doesn't do that for you. Nor they all come with discrete IR codes in database. I always spent a day or two figure out how to get discrete codes working. Sometimes, you can send email to Logitech support asking them to put in specific IR discrete code for you to the device (I did that couple times in the past). Sometimes, you just have to borrow it from other similar devices.
post #68 of 1712
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The key to Harmony is know how to program it properly with ALL discrete codes for power on/off and input selections. Unfortunately, when you setup a new device, Harmony app doesn't do that for you. Nor they all come with discrete IR codes in database. I always spent a day or two figure out how to get discrete codes working. Sometimes, you can send email to Logitech support asking them to put in specific IR discrete code for you to the device (I did that couple times in the past). Sometimes, you just have to borrow it from other similar devices.

I guess I should of mentioned that after spending half a day setting it up, I was able to make it work. However, a few weeks later it wouldn't work right for some unknown reason, it turns on some devices, and other devices doesn't. So, I've got to keep pushing the help button, which is annoying. I've talked to Logitech support for several hours already. So, I gave up. I just wanted to give it a try and see what the fuzz was all about the harmony remotes. Needless to say, it didn't work for me. Now, Logitech will probably no longer support it since they are selling the remote control division just like they got rid of the Squeezee BOX. That one I really liked.
post #69 of 1712
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If you setup only use Power Toggle commands, that is what you will get. I was frustrated with that before until I hunt down discrete power codes for all almost all of my equipment (there is no discrete power commands for my Samsung HD DVD/BD player, It probably never existed and hence I will not buy another Samsung player). A few I have to send in IR HEX code to Logitech support to import them to my account which works fine.

Harmony is not for everyone. Just like JP1 remotes won't be suited for everyone either. There isn't any universal remote that everyone likes.

The problem with IP based remote app is the command delay (from what I heard) and can't control more than one device in one app. Also unfortunately, Pioneer doesn't offer any such control app for Android.

The new generations of Android phone like HTC One now have IR port on them again. Maybe we will see some remote apps that works better than before.
post #70 of 1712
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If you setup only use Power Toggle commands, that is what you will get. I was frustrated with that before until I hunt down discrete power codes for all almost all of my equipment (there is no discrete power commands for my Samsung HD DVD/BD player, It probably never existed and hence I will not buy another Samsung player). A few I have to send in IR HEX code to Logitech support to import them to my account which works fine.

Harmony is not for everyone. Just like JP1 remotes won't be suited for everyone either. There isn't any universal remote that everyone likes.

The problem with IP based remote app is the command delay (from what I heard) and can't control more than one device in one app. Also unfortunately, Pioneer doesn't offer any such control app for Android.

The new generations of Android phone like HTC One now have IR port on them again. Maybe we will see some remote apps that works better than before.

I think you are right. I never did try the discrete codes. I might give it a go one more time, and I might ask for your help in the near future!
post #71 of 1712
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No problem. Happy to help.

First and most import thing to do when you get a Harmony remote: Hide all your other remotes!!
post #72 of 1712
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No problem. Happy to help.

First and most import thing to do when you get a Harmony remote: Hide all your other remotes!!

That's going to be hard. I will have to prove to my wife and kids that the Harmony works correctly first.
post #73 of 1712
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Harmony remembers device states in the remote. If you use other remotes and you don't have discrete codes for the device, especially for power on/off and switch inputs, you are screwed. That's why it is important to train family members to use the remote correctly, that including hold the remote steadily toward TV for a few seconds during initial power up.
post #74 of 1712
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I guess I should of mentioned that after spending half a day setting it up, I was able to make it work. However, a few weeks later it wouldn't work right for some unknown reason, it turns on some devices, and other devices doesn't. So, I've got to keep pushing the help button, which is annoying. I've talked to Logitech support for several hours already. So, I gave up. I just wanted to give it a try and see what the fuzz was all about the harmony remotes. Needless to say, it didn't work for me. Now, Logitech will probably no longer support it since they are selling the remote control division just like they got rid of the Squeezee BOX. That one I really liked.

I've had both the 1100 and one and love both. Really do have to spend a lot of time setting them up correctly. I even have them control my htpc, xbmc, and wmc which is great.
post #75 of 1712
I have a Y connector on one of my subs that feed to my second sub currently. Is there any advantage to actually connecting the second sub to the second sub out port on the receiver?

It would involve buying a longer cable and running it through one wall so was wondering if it's worth the trouble.
post #76 of 1712
OK, gang, I'm trying to setup a Harmony 900 to work with this thing. I downloaded the Pioneer hex codes and went to the Harmony website for inputting the codes. The codes work fine, but the problem is it won't let me download more than one command to the remote. Anytime I download a new command, it erases the old one. I'm trying to input the codes for all the HDMI inputs.Any ideas?

Another problem: Occasionally when starting the unit up with the Harmony, the unit will initially go to the correct HDMI input, and then all of a sudden switch to the TV input. Pressing the Help button fixes everything, but I don't want to have to do that all of the time. Any ideas on this one? Thanks for any info!
Edited by zhelder - 4/2/13 at 4:02pm
post #77 of 1712
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RE: *Official* Pioneer SC-1522 9.2 Network ready AV receiver owners thread

It makes no difference what so ever. Don't waste your effort there.
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I have a Y connector on one of my subs that feed to my second sub currently. Is there any advantage to actually connecting the second sub to the second sub out port on the receiver?

It would involve buying a longer cable and running it through one wall so was wondering if it's worth the trouble.


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post #78 of 1712
I have a Denon 3312ci and run a 5.2 system connected to it as well as separate front mains for music listening. Does the 1522 have an assignable amp so that I can do the same and send a full range signal to only the mains when not watching movies. I searched all over even the user manual, but it is sketchy for me. thanks.

Will a 1522 sound better? I was very happy with my previous Pio receivers.
post #79 of 1712
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It makes no difference what so ever. Don't waste your effort there.


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Thank you very much for saving me time and effort!
post #80 of 1712
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OK, gang, I'm trying to setup a Harmony 900 to work with this thing. I downloaded the Pioneer hex codes and went to the Harmony website for inputting the codes. The codes work fine, but the problem is it won't let me download more than one command to the remote. Anytime I download a new command, it erases the old one. I'm trying to input the codes for all the HDMI inputs.Any ideas?

Funny you mentioned that. I found out the same thing. That's probably why you can't access that page to add hex code yourself directly. It is a hidden page and I suspect something is missing when they upgraded the system.

You can email Logitech support with the HEX codes. They can add them to your account for you. I have done that a few times in the past.

However, were you able to make any of those HDMI1 to 7 commands work for you? I tried a few and none of them seem to switch the inputs for me. I'm only looking for HDMI 6 and 7 input commands. I have the rest already working
post #81 of 1712
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I have a Denon 3312ci and run a 5.2 system connected to it as well as separate front mains for music listening. Does the 1522 have an assignable amp so that I can do the same and send a full range signal to only the mains when not watching movies. I searched all over even the user manual, but it is sketchy for me. thanks.

Will a 1522 sound better? I was very happy with my previous Pio receivers.

There is no such setting as far as I know. However, you should be able to force your music to use only two front speakers in stereo mode if you make your mains part of the 5.2 or 7.2 setup.
post #82 of 1712
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There is no such setting as far as I know. However, you should be able to force your music to use only two front speakers in stereo mode if you make your mains part of the 5.2 or 7.2 setup.

OK thanks. That is the only thing holding me back from buying a 1522. I have a ceiling mounted 5.2 system that partly uses 4 ceiling mounted speakers. It sounds great with movies. I have a pair of Klipsch WF-35 set up as mains for music only. The Denon lets' the user configure such a system by assigning the amp. A fantastic feature.
post #83 of 1712
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I maybe wrong but I think you can also use multiple zone setup to mimic your Denon setup.
post #84 of 1712
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Funny you mentioned that. I found out the same thing. That's probably why you can't access that page to add hex code yourself directly. It is a hidden page and I suspect something is missing when they upgraded the system.

You can email Logitech support with the HEX codes. They can add them to your account for you. I have done that a few times in the past.

However, were you able to make any of those HDMI1 to 7 commands work for you? I tried a few and none of them seem to switch the inputs for me. I'm only looking for HDMI 6 and 7 input commands. I have the rest already working

Yeah, I tried them all, and they all work fine except for HDMI 4, which requires the VIDEO hex code to work. But I can't download more than one at a time, as every time a new code is downloaded, it erases the old one.

It's really frustrating. This bizarre HDMI labeling and access is marring an otherwise stellar receiver. It's never a picnic setting up a new unit to work with a Harmony (especially complicated units like this one), but the setup for this has been particularly brutal because of these problems.
post #85 of 1712
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Originally Posted by don851 View Post

I have a Y connector on one of my subs that feed to my second sub currently. Is there any advantage to actually connecting the second sub to the second sub out port on the receiver?

It would involve buying a longer cable and running it through one wall so was wondering if it's worth the trouble.

The 2 sub out ports on the receiver are actually Y'ed together internally. Connecting directly to those 2, is no different than using an external Y connector as you are. The receiver will see both subs as one regardless of how connected.
post #86 of 1712
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Originally Posted by "Foxbat121 
There is no such setting as far as I know. However, you should be able to force your music to use only two front speakers in stereo mode if you make your mains part of the 5.2 or 7.2 setup.
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Originally Posted by Stilly77 View Post

OK thanks. That is the only thing holding me back from buying a 1522. I have a ceiling mounted 5.2 system that partly uses 4 ceiling mounted speakers. It sounds great with movies. I have a pair of Klipsch WF-35 set up as mains for music only. The Denon lets' the user configure such a system by assigning the amp. A fantastic feature.



Could he not just set it to 5.2 [zone 1] + 2.0 [zone 2] + 2.0 [zone 3] (and just not plug in a zone 3)?


He doesn't HAVE to put the zone 2 speakers in a different room if he does not want to.
post #87 of 1712
I picked up this receiver and finally setup the Harmony ONE up to actually work with the unit. 3 questions

1) Is there an easy way to enter usernames/passwords (for sirius)? I entered it 3 times and it won't work. The app says that this feature does not work for Sirius. I have to use the front panel and entering a username / pw is very tedious.
2) When I go to internet radio or sirius, I can't use my harmony to select or go up and down, nor can I use the original pioneer remote. How do I go about getting the up and down option to work on the things that require a network connection. I'm forced to use the front panel.
3) I bought the netgear wireless device and when I use airplay, it doesn't hold a solid connection. It goes in and out. Any ideas on what the issue could be?

Thanks for your help!
post #88 of 1712
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Originally Posted by zhelder View Post

Yeah, I tried them all, and they all work fine except for HDMI 4, which requires the VIDEO hex code to work. But I can't download more than one at a time, as every time a new code is downloaded, it erases the old one.

It's really frustrating. This bizarre HDMI labeling and access is marring an otherwise stellar receiver. It's never a picnic setting up a new unit to work with a Harmony (especially complicated units like this one), but the setup for this has been particularly brutal because of these problems.

Ok. just to confirm, you do get HDMI6 and HDMI7 discrete code working, right? If so, I may need to try again. As I mentioned earlier, I used my second Harmony to beam the InputVideo command from other Pioneer receiver codes (it is actually InputVideo1).
post #89 of 1712
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Originally Posted by explorer3253 View Post

I picked up this receiver and finally setup the Harmony ONE up to actually work with the unit. 3 questions

1) Is there an easy way to enter usernames/passwords (for sirius)? I entered it 3 times and it won't work. The app says that this feature does not work for Sirius. I have to use the front panel and entering a username / pw is very tedious.
2) When I go to internet radio or sirius, I can't use my harmony to select or go up and down, nor can I use the original pioneer remote. How do I go about getting the up and down option to work on the things that require a network connection. I'm forced to use the front panel.
3) I bought the netgear wireless device and when I use airplay, it doesn't hold a solid connection. It goes in and out. Any ideas on what the issue could be?

Thanks for your help!

That is caused by the fact that a lot of those buttons are multi-functional and in fact use different IR codes in different modes. For example, there are two sets of directional button commands in the database. One is normal directional command which only works in receiver settings mode. The other set is labeled as iPodUSBxxxx which are used when you are in those other navigational situations. On the stock remote, you click RCVR button first to access the first set of directional buttons. If you need to access the second set of the directional button, you need to click on the input selection for NET, iPOD or USB, then the directional pads switch over to the second set.
post #90 of 1712
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I maybe wrong but I think you can also use multiple zone setup to mimic your Denon setup.

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Could he not just set it to 5.2 [zone 1] + 2.0 [zone 2] + 2.0 [zone 3] (and just not plug in a zone 3)?


He doesn't HAVE to put the zone 2 speakers in a different room if he does not want to.

well, I caved and bought one tonite...........I listen to multichannel SACD quite a bit. My older Pio Elite VSX-01TXH sounded great but I got the Denon 3312 for a good price and liked the features and GUI quite a bit better. However, the sound, while very good, was quite a bit different than what I was used to hearing. What I am hoping for is to return to the sound signature I loved, plus the fact that tweaking MCACC after calibration is a huge plus. So I'll be giving it a go this week. I hope it blows the socks off the Denon. If not, it will be going back.

I am not sure it will function the way I need with zones but I'll try to figure out what works for sure. My older Pio vsx-919 was quite limited with zones.

The 3312 is very impressive with the way it handles 2 sets of mains.
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