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post #751 of 1713
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

So are you saying that your front speakers are connected to external amps, instead of receiver's speaker outs? If so, I can certainly understand why. The headphone jack mute probably only apply on the speaker outs, not pre-outs. And it will also force the receiver into stereo mode.

Yes, I am using the Pioneer as a pre-amp for 5 channels. It just dawned on me yesterday that that may be the reason why the speakers won't stay muted when the headphone jack is used.
post #752 of 1713
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Originally Posted by N2AUDIO View Post


The speaker button inside of what? Do mean behind the drop-down front panel door? I'll have to take a look later tonight. If there is a "speaker" button on the front panel, then it should work.

This one:

 

post #753 of 1713
Truthfully worth the 600 dollar costco price tag?

Deciding between denon 2313 and this. Both the same price, but very little reviews and lots of negative things being said?

Any help or opinions?

Currently have Primus 363 towers. Buying subs and surrounds in the next few weeks. Just getting into the HT scene.
post #754 of 1713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SLIDEx View Post

Truthfully worth the 600 dollar costco price tag?

Deciding between denon 2313 and this. Both the same price, but very little reviews and lots of negative things being said?

Any help or opinions?

Currently have Primus 363 towers. Buying subs and surrounds in the next few weeks. Just getting into the HT scene.

I don't think you are compare apples to apples. SC-1522 is a $1500 receiver sold at $600. Denon 2313 is a $800 receiver sold at similar price. Not the same. The comparable Denon will be 3313. Not to mention Costco's life time return warranty.
post #755 of 1713
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Originally Posted by SLIDEx View Post

Truthfully worth the 600 dollar costco price tag?

... lots of negative things being said?

Is there a list of the cons of this receiver?
post #756 of 1713
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

I don't think you are compare apples to apples. SC-1522 is a $1500 receiver sold at $600. Denon 2313 is a $800 receiver sold at similar price. Not the same. The comparable Denon will be 3313. Not to mention Costco's life time return warranty.

I see what you are saying but the thing that scares me (whether its justified or not) is the lack of reviews around the internet, and why is that such a huge discount at costco compared to amazon etc?

The 2313 is well reviewed with lots of positives as an example.

But reading thru this thread I see , this is the 3rd 1522 I had, hope its the charm, lots of issues with the hdmi being hooked up, etc.

I do love the D3 amps
post #757 of 1713
AFAIK, its an Elite SC-65 with a Pioneer nameplate. Try searching for reviews of the SC-65, everyone I've read is very positive. I'm on my 1st, any initial issues I had went away after I upgraded to the latest firmware.
post #758 of 1713
I think it's probably worth the $600. My guess is no company sells an immense amount of their highest priced avr and with next years models looming, moving these became a priority.

I'm the one on my 3rd. The first one I returned for a popping noise during mcacc setup related to right surround speaker and some popping during listening mode changes. Neither necessarily meant there was anything wrong with the receiver, but it bothered me enough to exchange it. The second I returned immediately because of a transformer hum. Again, doesn't really mean anything was necessarily wrong with it, but bothered me enough for exchange. The third one has been completely fine. I'm happy with it so far except for some problems with hdmi. I did switch my long cable for one with redmere from Monoprice and it seems to have cured the problem mostly. This problem is also related to powering on sequence.

Overall, I think it's a good receiver for the price. Would I drop $1500 for it? Personally, no. But at $600 with a lifetime return policy, I really have nothing to lose.

I have the Infinity P362's (fronts & surrounds), PC350 (center), and a Klipsch RW-12d sub. I like how everything sounds so far. Still working on tweaking everything out, but overall sounds good.

Bottom line...you have nothing to lose!
Edited by thatguyhileman - 5/10/13 at 9:51pm
post #759 of 1713
Thatguy,
I take exception with your post. Using Costco as your Nordstrom return pipeline for technology upgrades is plain wrong. Since you did have issues with your first two 1522s I see why you may be wary. But I have had nothing but success with 3 different
Pioneer SC units the SC-05, Sc-37 and now the SC-65/1522-K.
You and others will kill the golden goose if you think Costco is the revolving door for upgrades. This kind of thinking is not correct!
post #760 of 1713
Okay, that one sentence probably comes off wrong. I'll edit that. My intentions are not to use them as a revolving door for upgrading, but I am somewhat wary. And when I took the second one back, the manager stated I didn't have to be in such a hurry to bring it back because I could return it anytime in the future. But, I'll change that to reflect better. Sorry for the confusion.
post #761 of 1713
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Originally Posted by SLIDEx View Post

I see what you are saying but the thing that scares me (whether its justified or not) is the lack of reviews around the internet, and why is that such a huge discount at costco compared to amazon etc?

The 2313 is well reviewed with lots of positives as an example.

But reading thru this thread I see , this is the 3rd 1522 I had, hope its the charm, lots of issues with the hdmi being hooked up, etc.

I do love the D3 amps

I own this receiver and I can tell you it's without a doubt the best one I've ever had, and I've owned a lot of them in my day, too: Nakamichi AV-8; Harman/Kardon AVRs 635, 445, and 3550HD; NAD T763 and T744; and Onkyo TX-NR875. I won't even include several preamps that I've owned, but even this Pioneer SC-1522-k is better than some of those preamps, too. I've had mine now for over a month, and I have not had any glitches or noise whatsoever. No HDMI problems, either. Most HDMI problems can be traced to bad cables or too long of HDMI runs. I think you'll very satisfied with its performance, but only you can make that decision.
post #762 of 1713
If you can find one, try it out, if you like it keep it if not return it. I have no dout that you will like it. Coming from denon 4310.
post #763 of 1713
Costco gets bulk stuff like this all of the time from companies wanting to clear inventory, nothing wrong with the model. The same thing happened with the Elite SC-35 a couple of years ago at Costco. It went for $750 and that might have been the best deal offered for a receiver, ever!
post #764 of 1713
I went from a Pioneer Elite VSX-52TX to the 1522-K after coming across this forum and reading about the amazing deal.i am nothing short of amazed with the differences I hear. Now if I can sell the 52tx for a decent price, I'd be even happier with this deal. I feel that any of the problems you've read (including one of mine) was probably not the receiver at all. It may have been people not reading the manual and who aren't tech savvy thinking this avr can do this & that when in reality it was never designed or claimed to do this or that. Or like in my case, the quality level of this receiver ($1600 priced at a mid-entry level $600) highlights HDMI problems that the owner's previous receiver couldn't for some reason or another.

As datranz and many other owners have said, just try it (if you're fortunate enough to find a Costco that still has it in stock). Unless you're replacing something like a $3000+ receiver, you'll be amazed at how much more you can get from your speakers.
Edited by Pioneer_Elte - 5/11/13 at 6:42am
post #765 of 1713
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Originally Posted by Pioneer_Elte View Post

I feel that any of the problems you've read (including one of mine) was probably not the receiver at all. It may have been people not reading the manual and aren't tech savvy thinking this ave can do this & that when in reality it was never designed or claimed to do this or that.

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you've been reading some of my posts? wink.gif you sound like me, anyway biggrin.gif

I'm sure there are a few problematic receivers out there, no company has 100% no defects. but I believe the vast, vast majority of "problems" reported are user related or HDMI compatibility related.
post #766 of 1713
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Originally Posted by SLIDEx View Post

lots of issues with the hdmi being hooked up, etc.

HDMI really is not plug & play despite the "one cable" solution we've been sold.

HDMI is the most trouble-prone, quirky, and technically challenging interface yet implemented by the CE industry. and it was not done in the interest of giving owners a convenient way to hook things up, despite what you may like to believe....it's sole reason for being was for the studios & content providers to lock down digital transmission of video & audio - antipiracy. convenient it may be, but the HDMI organization could care less about it not always working between 2 devices. the owner is on his own in that regard. the mfgs of receivers, TV's, gaming consoles, players, etc are at the mercy of the chipsets used to receive & transmit the signal. no company is immune from having some compatible issues.

my 2c
post #767 of 1713
Thread Starter 
ppl come here to get help or help others. This is a technical forum, not marketing forum. Most owners won't come here just to praise their purchase.
post #768 of 1713
I got one last week to replace my Yamaha, hooked it up to my Samsung TV, Oppo 103 and my Direct TV DVR, and I was off to the races. Still getting it "right," but after calibrating it now all I'm doing is trying to make sense of the instruction manual so I can do things like pass-through, and getting my Harmony One to do what I want IT to do. The sound is fantastic, it's a real step up from the Yamaha, and I just love the new amp smell. smile.gif

For $600 this is a no-brainer.

As to the "complaints" here, it stands to reason that there will be issues with any device (check out the Apple Discussion Forum, you'd think nothing Apple makes works). But the vast majority of people purchasing this device and its other-named sibling have no reason to post with complaints, because everything works. I read the forum before I made my purchase, and the positive posts far outweighed the negative ones.
post #769 of 1713
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

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you've been reading some of my posts? wink.gif you sound like me, anyway biggrin.gif

Actually I have and I agree with with some of them. I've been guilty of it once or twice, but some of the questions I see here are evident or someone who tried to fix an issue/problem for about 2 mins and didn't bother to read the manual or even do a quick web search to bring them up to speed before giving up. Being an engineer I like helping those who need and ask for it when I can, but I do wish people would at a minimum try to help themselves first before asking others to spend their time helping.
post #770 of 1713
I have a sony s790 bluray player connected to the Pio, it doesn't matter in what order I power them, I get no audio until I turn off the Pio several times while the Sony is still on. The only thing I haven't tried is connecting the sony to a different HDMI in. Any ideas?
post #771 of 1713
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Originally Posted by Edmundo Lopez View Post

I have a sony s790 bluray player connected to the Pio, it doesn't matter in what order I power them, I get no audio until I turn off the Pio several times while the Sony is still on. The only thing I haven't tried is connecting the sony to a different HDMI in. Any ideas?

couple questions:
1) what avr did you have the 790 hooked up to before the 1522? Did it have similar problems?
2) what type & length HDMI cable are you running?
3) which HDMI out on the 790 is the cable to the 1522 connected. Are you using both HDMI outs on the 790 simultaneously?
post #772 of 1713
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Originally Posted by wpbpete View Post


I gave up trying hdmi and mhl video with my laptop and Galaxy S3 but was hoping I could connect a Dune or something similar. Somebody wrote somewhere that they got video from a Roku via hdmi.

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I have been using Roku and it works without any issues. I also was able to connect Ipad with USB cable provided to the receiver and able play video with no issue either. I was able to play video with Samsung S2 via MHL cable too but this has been an issue and doesn't work always. Not sure if its cable issue or power up sequence. It plays for few seconds to minutes and then the PCM signal goes off on the front panel and no video/audio from then.

Hooked up a BD player yesterday and once the power sequence was correct( RCVR, and then BD), it worked with no issues. I have not tried either Airplay or DLNA yet.
post #773 of 1713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by wpbpete View Post

I gave up trying hdmi and mhl video with my laptop and Galaxy S3 but was hoping I could connect a Dune or something similar. Somebody wrote somewhere that they got video from a Roku via hdmi.

In order to use Galaxy S3 for MHL, you have to purchase a special adapter from Samsung which converts its proprietary microUSB connector (12-pin) to standard microUSB connector (5-pin) before you can use MHL cable on it. It is a Samsung problem. IIRC, some one posted earlier n this thread that it is working fine with the adapter.
post #774 of 1713
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Originally Posted by Pioneer_Elte View Post

couple questions:
1) what avr did you have the 790 hooked up to before the 1522? Did it have similar problems?
2) what type & length HDMI cable are you running?
3) which HDMI out on the 790 is the cable to the 1522 connected. Are you using both HDMI outs on the 790 simultaneously?

1) Onkyo 1007, no problems
2) monoprice 3 ft
3) Using 1 HDMI only.
post #775 of 1713
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Edmundo Lopez View Post

2) monoprice 3 ft

Is that for both HDMI cables? Or just the one connect player to receiver. Remember, both HDMI cables count.
post #776 of 1713
I have an almost new Denon 2112ci (I bought it on September last year) with 7.1 KEF speakers (iQ90, iQ60c, iQ30, iQ10 & JBL subwoofer that I would like to change soon for something better) and I couldn't skip the temptation to try the 1522K at Costco price & return policy.
Before setting everything I gave a last listening to the Denon with an Audio Blu Ray disc. Then I set up the Pioneer and without tweaking anything other than selecting speakers set up (7.1 - bi-amp) I spun the same Audio Blu Ray. It sounded better, warmer so I liked. Then I ran the MACC Full Auto but it didn't improve the sound quality as I was expecting. I will need to redo the MACC set up since I selected "THX speakers - Yes" and it probably should be NO since my front speakers were set to small. Though I understand that I have to read more about MACC before doing it again.
I downloaded the manual and I didn't like it too much but I have to say that Denon manual was not too much better. I have a lot to read since this receiver has much more features than the Denon 2112ci.
This receiver is much bigger and heavier than the Denon 2112.
So tonight I will watch a movie and tomorrow reading and tweaking.
post #777 of 1713

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post #778 of 1713
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Originally Posted by SLIDEx View Post

I see what you are saying but the thing that scares me (whether its justified or not) is the lack of reviews around the internet, and why is that such a huge discount at costco compared to amazon etc?

The 2313 is well reviewed with lots of positives as an example.

But reading thru this thread I see , this is the 3rd 1522 I had, hope its the charm, lots of issues with the hdmi being hooked up, etc.

I do love the D3 amps

I too was hesitant about purchasing the SC1522k due, in large part, to the lack of reviews. However, after getting it home and setting it up I am nothing short of amazed by the sound and the plethora of options. I am stepping up from a 5 year old VSX-919AHK and I had no idea how much better my system could sound. I found the setup simple and I was happy to see that the remote and main sound options hadn't changed from the VSX-919.

I have a BD player, HTPC, and three video game systems hooked up and haven't had a single hiccup along the way. I also have been using the HTC connect feature to share photos from my DINC2. My favorite feature by far, however, is the wake-on-lan coupled with the iControlAV2012 app on my phone. It is great being able to load up Pandora and stream it to the speakers in my bedroom (ZONE2) without ever having to leave the bed.

I feel the SC-1522K was well worth the $600. I opened a Costco membership just to buy the receiver.
post #779 of 1713
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Originally Posted by Edmundo Lopez View Post

3) Using 1 HDMI only.

On the 790 system settings try:
1) Control for HDMI: OFF
2) HDMI Linked to TV-Off: OFF
3) AV Separation Output Mode : OFF

And connect the 790 HDMI output #2 (left one on the back) to the 1522-k and see if that fixes your audio issue.

The only other thing I can think of to try is turn AV Separation Output Mode to ON, connect 790 HDMI #1 directly to the TV HDMI in, & 790 HDMI #2 to the 1522-k HDMI input for audio only.
post #780 of 1713
hi, i have read all pages so far on this thread over last one month after getting SC-1522. but now that I am facing two issues, i can't find or remember others' experience on these issues. will aprpeciate any responses.

issue 1- with video out to TV- i have a series of 5/10 minute HD video songs with DTS-HD that i play. After every song, before video somes up,1522 swtches to STEREO (i am fine with that). but after video comes up, no audio for more than 15 to 20 seconds. only after 15/20 seconds would audio in DTS-HD comes back.

issue 2- when video out to Proj - when watching any material (from a PiVOS AiOS media player or Panny BD player), after every 10 to 15 mins, video goes off for about 2 to 5 seconds - audio continues. i have approx 25' HDMI cable from 1522 HDMI out2 to projector. one thought would be if HDMI cable signal strength. but i never faced such issue with my HK AVR254 with same setup. so would it be that SC-1522 is sending weaker single and hence video dropps every 10 mins or so? i will try to connect Proj to HDMI OUT1 of proj, just in case...
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