or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › HDTV › HDTV Programming › "ORPHAN BLACK" on BBC America in HD
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

"ORPHAN BLACK" on BBC America in HD - Page 15

post #421 of 537
Thanks. Interesting that they've been developing this show since 2004.
post #422 of 537
I'm rewatching the show with wife and daughter. I realize that I was only half paying attention to the first 3 shows and it was the end of show 3 that really caught me. Nice to see stuff in the earlier shows that answer some small plot questions. Really love this show.
post #423 of 537
From a logical point of view... it only stands to reason that there would be a lot of clones. I mean, if you're a company making clones there seems to only be a couple of logical courses...

Either you make a clone, maybe two, and study the heck out of it before trying again... OR you make dozens of them and make them all jump through different hoops to see what happens.

So... given the show so far, it stands to reason there are probably dozens more (at least) worldwide... but I agree with the notion of not throwing them all at us at once. That too is logical... even as the secrets unfold, there's no compelling logical reason for all of them to "meet up" all of a sudden... it makes more sense, and is far more interesting, to stumble upon clones as the story progresses.

That also allows them to fully define a clone and let Tatiana climb inside her head before they put it on screen for us... I do wonder, as the writers do, how long they will get to tell their story. I hope at least they get the time they want... and if the show does end at some point sooner rather than later, that they get the chance to properly roll out their intended endgame.
post #424 of 537
Watched the the first five episodes today through FiOS On Demand today. I never knew about this show, but it kept coming up in some other threads I was reading through.
Glad I found out about it, I really am enjoying it!
post #425 of 537
Sadly, it looks like Orphan Black was shut out of this years EMMYS.mad.gif
post #426 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by aquastar View Post

Sadly, it looks like Orphan Black was shut out of this years EMMYS.mad.gif

bummer frown.gif

quite a few reviews have mentioned the Emmy, including DVDTalk's review of the Blu-ray. Politics is everywhere but she'll know in her heart that she's a contendah wink.gif not the same but...maybe when season 2 gets aired, by that time she'll have the name recognition to get considered.

ordered the BD's several days ago & will be introducing the wife to the show which means I get to watch it again smile.gif
post #427 of 537
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

bummer frown.gif

quite a few reviews have mentioned the Emmy, including DVDTalk's review of the Blu-ray. Politics is everywhere but she'll know in her heart that she's a contendah wink.gif not the same but...maybe when season 2 gets aired, by that time she'll have the name recognition to get considered.

ordered the BD's several days ago & will be introducing the wife to the show which means I get to watch it again smile.gif
I'm sure but didn't Orphan Black air after the period of eligibility for this years Emmy's ?
I might be wrong on this rolleyes.gif IIRC that happened to Breaking Bad one year
post #428 of 537
The eligibility period for the 2013 Emmys was June 1, 2012 to May 31, 2013, so Tatiana and Orphan Black were eligible.

I'm guessing lots of Emmy voters don't have time to watch all the submitted shows, which is why the same shows tend to appear over and over again (or they vote for the shows they think -- or are told -- they should vote for).

Note that Tatiana won the Critics' Choice Television Award for Best Actress in a Drama. Critics have to watch shows in order to review them, so it isn't surprising that the majority of critics saw her performance in Orphan Black and were very impressed.

According to the Orphan Black Wikipedia page, Tatiana has been nominated for a Television Critics Association (TCA) award for Individual Achievement in Drama, while the show has been nominated for Outstanding New Program. So Emmy voters are idiots, but at least the critics are giving Tatiana and Orphan Black the accolades they deserve!
post #429 of 537
Just another reason why the Emmy's are irrelevant. Their voters don't actually watch TV (seriously - many of them don't). The Peabody's and TCA awards are really more prestigious and actually reward the best work in the medium. Unfortunately, they don't have the same "street cred" as the Emmys which are basically just a popularity contest. frown.gif
post #430 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

...Emmys which are basically just a popularity contest. frown.gif

+1
I wouldn't quite say they're totally irrelevant wink.gif but like the Oscar, they seem to reward "in" things.
post #431 of 537
They also tend to reward famous film actors with nominations in spite of the fact that they may have barely had a speaking part compared to other actors. Dame Diana Rigg in GoT for example. I've had a crush on her since her days of playing the cooler-than-cool Emma Peel in 'The Avengers', but really now, no way she deserved that nomination. rolleyes.gif

Everybody on this thread is rightfully angry about Tatiana's omission, but to leave 'The Americans' - the best new dramatic series of the year - off the "best drama" list ought to be a crime against TV. Exile those snoozing voters to a Siberian gulag! mad.gif
post #432 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Diana Rigg...I've had a crush on her since her days of playing the cooler-than-cool Emma Peel in 'The Avengers

you too, huh? wink.gif
you & I may be in the approx same age group, then. I watched The Avengers religiously, multiple times, even saw the pre-Goldfinger Honor Blackman episodes, the season before Diana Rigg. Diana Rigg made the show...it went downhill after she left, even for a campy spy spoof.

sexy women in leather suits + martial arts - a 60's version of "Nikita" cool.gif

yes, I agree about her role in GoT. not only a relatively minor part compared to the regulars but not as well played as I would have hoped even considering her present age. kind of on the rough side. amazing how fantasies of 45 yrs ago get dashed eek.gif
Edited by ss9001 - 7/19/13 at 7:37am
post #433 of 537
NOTHING beats Diana Rigg in "A Midsummer Night's Dream". Is that available anywhere? In HD? (I doubt it)
post #434 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by philw1776 View Post

NOTHING beats Diana Rigg in "A Midsummer Night's Dream". Is that available anywhere? In HD? (I doubt it)

I remember that! It was a BBC production telecast on PBS here in the States. The first time I ever saw full-frontal nudity on broadcast TV (and maybe the only time since). Of course, there were only 4 national networks at the time - the Jurrasic era before cable. Ms. Rigg didn't doff her kit but some of the Bard's faeries did, as I recall (they were real and spectacular). I was a homonal-fueled teen at the time and it made quite an impression. wink.giftongue.gif
post #435 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

I remember that! It was a BBC production telecast on PBS here in the States. The first time I ever saw full-frontal nudity on broadcast TV (and maybe the only time since). Of course, there were only 4 national networks at the time - the Jurrasic era before cable. Ms. Rigg didn't doff her kit but some of the Bard's faeries did, as I recall (they were real and spectacular). I was a homonal-fueled teen at the time and it made quite an impression. wink.giftongue.gif


if you search YouTube for user zone003, he has a handful of Clips from that production including one with a short appearance from Diana Rigg. This was a bit before my time, but it had the cream of the crop of British actors. Amazing. I don't know if they were renowned when they did the show, but their pedigree is impressive nowadays.
post #436 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

I remember that! It was a BBC production telecast on PBS here in the States. The first time I ever saw full-frontal nudity on broadcast TV (and maybe the only time since). Of course, there were only 4 national networks at the time - the Jurrasic era before cable. Ms. Rigg didn't doff her kit but some of the Bard's faeries did, as I recall (they were real and spectacular). I was a homonal-fueled teen at the time and it made quite an impression. wink.giftongue.gif

You're gonna kill yourself if you search the net and find out who you lusted after.
Plus, I discovered that Hellen Mirren was in that same production. (No, she's not whom I'm referring to; Helen is still hot. OK I'm old.)
post #437 of 537
Season One Blu-ray set from Amazon arrived yesterday!
post #438 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by replayrob View Post

Season One Blu-ray set from Amazon arrived yesterday!

mine too! smile.gif
post #439 of 537
I'll wait to see if this show gets a "complete series" box set with additional special features before I buy it on home video. wink.gif
post #440 of 537
Congrats to Tatiana won TCA award.
post #441 of 537
So that's two major best actress awards she's won so far this year. Don't know if the Peabodys are out yet but she'll probably win that one too.

And yet, not even a nomination from the Emmys. rolleyes.gif

What a shame the lamest television awards organization, voted on by people who by-and-large don't even watch TV, gets all the press and attention.
post #442 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

So that's two major best actress awards she's won so far this year. Don't know if the Peabodys are out yet but she'll probably win that one too.

And yet, not even a nomination from the Emmys. rolleyes.gif

What a shame the lamest television awards organization, voted on by people who by-and-large don't even watch TV, gets all the press and attention.

Dis.
post #443 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

So that's two major best actress awards she's won so far this year. Don't know if the Peabodys are out yet but she'll probably win that one too.
They don't give out individual awards for the Peabodys. At least I don't believe they do. But they did just recognize another show that was completely ignored by the Emmys...Southland.
post #444 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by moob View Post

They don't give out individual awards for the Peabodys. At least I don't believe they do. But they did just recognize another show that was completely ignored by the Emmys...Southland.

You might be right. But if they do, I'll bet Tatiana wins. The people in the business who actually pay attention - and that would include the Peabody voters - certainly know who she is by now.

I'll always have a warm spot in my heart for the Peabody Awards because of the time they gave the Best Drama award to BSG. Again, don't believe it was ever even nominated for an Emmy.
post #445 of 537
It wasn't. At least not for Best Drama. It won some technical awards of course, and was nominated for writing/directing, but the actors never got any recognition. =\

Like you I've pretty much given on the Emmys. I got into Orphan Black late, but regardless of what anyone might think of the show, Maslany is fantastic.
post #446 of 537
I finally got a chance to do a marathon viewing of the series last night. I was going to watch half of them and then the other half the next night. After getting through the first five, I was so hooked that I had to watch the last five and was pissed at the cliffhanger.

Now I can't wait for a 2nd season. There is a 2nd season, right?

Oh, one thing that clued me in that there were not genetically the same is that one of the them wore glasses. You can't be identical and have that happen.

What also bothers me is how they could encode the text in the DNA and not have that text result in some kind of abnormality.
post #447 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

Now I can't wait for a 2nd season. There is a 2nd season, right?

It got renewed early in the season.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

Oh, one thing that clued me in that there were not genetically the same is that one of the them wore glasses. You can't be identical and have that happen.

See previous posts for our discussion on that. wink.gif
post #448 of 537
Since I hadn't seen the series yet, I haven't read any of the previous posts and not that there are 445 of them (before mine), I wasn't going to go through them all.

At least now I know that there is going to be a 2nd season and that I wasn't the only one wondering about the glasses thing.
post #449 of 537
The glasses never bothered me... because I had assumed from "go" that they were tweaking the clones to try different things anyway... it made sense to me as a clone experiment... tweak the DNA and see what happens, then make more.

But it sounds like the original intent was for them to be genetically identical except for those markers for patent-purposes... and the writers glitched on the glasses and then later realized "oops"...

Though, they could have also explained her glasses another way... The need for glasses isn't always genetic... it can come from something else... an accident or certain diseases... so she could have been genetically identical but also encountered a real-world experience that damaged her eyesight.
post #450 of 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post


Though, they could have also explained her glasses another way... The need for glasses isn't always genetic... it can come from something else... an accident or certain diseases... so she could have been genetically identical but also encountered a real-world experience that damaged her eyesight.

Sure. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best. I was rather surprised that subject even got brought up earlier.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: HDTV Programming
AVS › AVS Forum › HDTV › HDTV Programming › "ORPHAN BLACK" on BBC America in HD