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post #121 of 3145
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

I assume it is a full size 3 1/2" drive. Don't even think of it. In fact, I doubt it would even work as those are externally powered.
Capacity of the drive has (or should have) no effect of power consumption. Size and speed will.

The WD My Passport drive is 2 1/2" 5400 RPM.
post #122 of 3145
Thread Starter 
Then no problem. Does it also have a external power jack? Are all their "Passports" 2 1/2" drives?
post #123 of 3145
The drive has no external power jack, only USB. All the Western Digital My Passport drives are 2 1/2". I did a 20 minute test recording using the drive and the iView's case was warm but not hot to the touch.
post #124 of 3145
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The case won't be that warm. I ran a 18+ hour test with no issues. It wasn't suppose to be that long, but I was testing that midnight issue with Jeff.
Those drive enclosures w/ a 2 1/2" drive are far better than trying to use a USB memory stick.
post #125 of 3145
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Originally Posted by WS65711 View Post

This is interesting. I wonder what happens if you start with a correct clock, record a previously scheduled recording on Channel "A" (which has a 10 minute slow clock), and then proceed to record a previously scheduled recording on Channel "B" immediately following. Does the recording on Channel "B" miss the first 10 minutes of the show?

The iView must lock in the clock at the start of timer recordings. I ran a test as described above and other than a short delay for the channel change nothing was missed.
post #126 of 3145
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As soon as channels are mapped, the time is there. I never did a reset and tried entering in just one channel to see what happened. This is one time a clock display on the front would be a plus. wink.gif
post #127 of 3145
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

What size drive is it (not capacity but physical size)? 3 1/2" or 2 1/2"?? Sounds as you have a 2 1/2" which are made for Laptops with size, power consumption and heat in mind.
1TB or 500GB of the same form factor and speed would consume the around same from the same manufacture. Larger physical drives and faster drive spin speeds consume more. wink.gif
Looks like it's a 2 1/2" drive, heres a link, on sale and with my $10 of $30 coupon it came down to $50 which I thought was nice.
http://www.officemax.com/technology/drives-memory-storage/hard-drives-usb-drives/portable-hard-drives/product-prod3960372
post #128 of 3145
I see that rakuten.com (buy.com) is selling these now. I could have saved $2.
Link
post #129 of 3145
Thread Starter 
That listing shortchanges the product. There is no mention of the DVR capability.
Opposite of most ads or listings where the product is over sold. wink.gif
post #130 of 3145
What a weird site, anyone want to purchase a iView DVD player(mind you not BD) for $270.27 + $12.95 shipping eek.gif http://www.rakuten.com/prod/iview-iview-2600hd-5-1-ch-digital-hdmi-progressive-scan-dvd-player-blue/249209397.html For that generic DVD player I'd be hard pressed to give them the shipping cost let alone $270 to boot rolleyes.gif
Or maybe you need a 7" portable iView DVD player($70 would get you a much better Sony) for $313.98 + $9.95 shipping eek.gifrolleyes.gif) http://www.rakuten.com/prod/iview-760blue-7-inch-portable-dvd-player-blue/249209383.html
I think I'd rather give my money to Amazon.....

videobruce, I agree about omitting the DVR function of the iView but you have to admit even iView on the box really downplays the DVR function of the 3500.....more like it's a afterthought rather than a big selling point confused.gif
Edited by jjeff - 4/19/13 at 11:18am
post #131 of 3145
You guys seem pretty tech savvy can one of you help me?

I am now set-up with Cable TV wire into the "Antenna In" and have out to my TV with a standard cable on the "Antenna Out", I am using channel 4, I also tried channel 3 with no difference.

When I first turn the Box on I can get analog channels on my TV so I know it's hooked up correctly. Once the Box powers up and I get the "BOOT" Menu, and the Analog Channels can no longer be seen on my TV. When the Box is set to "Loop" I get all the analog channels and no menu.

Using the Menu/Set-up, I attempt to program the digital channels. However I cannot receive any TV signal whether I be on auto scan or manual scan. No channels are recognized.

I set the Menu option to "Cable" from the factory setting of "AIR"
The Option is set to "NTSC" if I hit the button my screen goes wavy and cannot see the picture clearly, so I keep it on NTSC.

I have COX Cable TV in Las Vegas, NV.

Why am I not receiving any signal or finding any stations in the channel search?
post #132 of 3145
Do you know for sure if you actually have any digital channels? The iView only has a digital tuner, it won't tune analog channels.
Do you have a newer TV with a digital tuner? Not just digital but a digital(ATSC/QAM) tuner.
Everything you describe sounds correct, just sounds like you have no digital channels.
Is your cable feed coming direct from the wall and is it a raw cable feed? By raw I mean it isn't going through some apartment complex distribution system which might not pass on or have digital channels.
post #133 of 3145
My ex-girlfriend had a tv with a digital tuner. We were able to pick up the digital channels. That was a few months back, but I doubt the Cable Company has done anything since.

I have a RF Modulator and planned on using that to switch back and forth between the analog channels and the digital channels. Currently I am trying to use the 3500 directly from the cable wire coming out of the wall directly into the 3500 box, and directly to the tv with the same similar coaxial wire that the cable tv uses.

The TV I am using is an "old" tv with a basic antenna in using a coaxial input. No digital tuner.

I live in a house. The bedroom TV is fed from a splitter, all two bedrooms and the living room are on the same feed, the third bedroom has it's own dedicated line for the internet.
post #134 of 3145
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I have a RF Modulator and planned on using that to switch back and forth between the analog channels and the digital channels. Currently I am trying to use the 3500 directly from the cable wire coming out of the wall directly into the 3500 box, and directly to the tv with the same similar coaxial wire that the cable tv uses.
The TV I am using is an "old" tv with a basic antenna in using a coaxial input. No digital tuner.
If rthe box is set to passrhrough or looping, when it just passes the RF signal. You are not getting the output from the tuner, just whatever is present that your TV can receive just as there was no box.
When it is on and set to RF 3 or 4, you will get any 'in the clear' local QAM channels your CATV company provides if your TV is on ch 3 or 4. This works just as a VCR did 35 years ago when they first came out. There is just no mechanical switch to switch back and forth between the output of the device and a straight antenna or CATV feed.
With a older analog TV (non monitor), all you can do is use the menu and change from RF3 (or 4) back to passthrough so you can watch your analog channels.

Might be time for a new TV. You can always try your local Craigslist and see what is available in a used LCD wink.gif
post #135 of 3145
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

If rthe box is set to passrhrough or looping, when it just passes the RF signal. You are not getting the output from the tuner, just whatever is present that your TV can receive just as there was no box.
When it is on and set to RF 3 or 4, you will get any 'in the clear' local QAM channels your CATV company provides if your TV is on ch 3 or 4. This works just as a VCR did 35 years ago when they first came out. There is just no mechanical switch to switch back and forth between the output of the device and a straight antenna or CATV feed.
With a older analog TV (non monitor), all you can do is use the menu and change from RF3 (or 4) back to passthrough so you can watch your analog channels.

Might be time for a new TV. You can always try your local Craigslist and see what is available in a used LCD wink.gif

Are you saying that I would pick up the digital channels when I am connected directly without the RF modulator? Because that is not working either. iviewus support just answered and claimed that my set-up appeared correct but that the cable system must encrypt all channels and they had no way of really knowing (they were so helpful). I guess I threw $40 bucks in the trash?
post #136 of 3145
I'd bet that everything is scrambled on your cable system. The Cableco's used to have to keep the local stations in the clear but the FCC recently changed that rule.
post #137 of 3145
Thread Starter 
If you don't get any digital CATV channels with that tuner, you won't get them with anything else w/o a CableCard, assuming you are paying fore at least one "digital tier".
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I guess I threw $40 bucks in the trash?
I surely wouldn't say that. Besides, what is forty bucks, you can spend that on a fancy dinner. wink.gif
What TV market are you in? Find your local reception thread and ask if the locals are encrypted or not, or just call them up and ask (assuming you get someone that knows what you are talking about). Have you ever considered OTA??

It would help if you add the name of your town under your username so we would know where you are. smile.gif
post #138 of 3145
I just received my new IVIEW-3500stb from Amazon., I signed up for the Amazon card and received a $50.00 gift card to spend so my 3500stb was free. I needed something to replace my Sony dhg-hdd250 since trying to keep the clock set was driving me nuts after the TV guide and time set stopped working for those. After setting up my first weekly scheduled recording on the Iview, it twice did not display the correct channel for the recording when I went back in to look at the scheduled timer. Is that normal that it stops displaying the the channel it is set to record? I deleted the timer schedule and tried again and it happened again. Any info is appreciated.
Edited by rad21 - 4/25/13 at 5:17pm
post #139 of 3145

I signed up for the Amazon card recently and was refused. eek.giffrown.gif

 

I can't figure out why - never been refused a credit card before.

 

I going to order this box, then try again by answering some questions a bit differently this time.

post #140 of 3145
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

If you don't get any digital CATV channels with that tuner, you won't get them with anything else w/o a CableCard, assuming you are paying fore at least one "digital tier".
I surely wouldn't say that. Besides, what is forty bucks, you can spend that on a fancy dinner. wink.gif
What TV market are you in? Find your local reception thread and ask if the locals are encrypted or not, or just call them up and ask (assuming you get someone that knows what you are talking about). Have you ever considered OTA??

It would help if you add the name of your town under your username so we would know where you are. smile.gif

My original post I had put that I am in Las Vegas NV, I have Cox cable. I pay for the Digital Service and have pay channels, but only one Cable Box located in the Living room. I don't watch a lot of tv in the bedroom, but it seems they are converting more and more channels to digital and the amount of programming I can get without a box is becoming limited.

Oddly enough, after my last post, I reconnected the box to see if it actually worked. I connected an antenna to it and it picked up a lot of DTV "over the air channels" After that I connected it back to cable tv and suddenly it was recognizing channels. I thought it was good. However, all it did was give me many channels with a black screen and no sound. Itg would appear my cable went all encrypted without advertising.

The support email I got from iview stated that they didn't have much success at all with any cable tv services. Because of this I feel a little misled because it is advertised as cable compatible.

So I am not knowledgeable in this, what is OTA? And you mention a CableCard...is there a way I can make this work if all the channels are encrypted?

Thanks for your help.
post #141 of 3145
OTA is over the air. You connected OTA when you hooked up an antenna.
post #142 of 3145
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Originally Posted by Jay Ruffin View Post

And you mention a CableCard...is there a way I can make this work if all the channels are encrypted?

There's not a way to make a non-CableCARD tuner CableCARD aware, or otherwise add the functionality in an aftermarket fashion. You have to either get a DVR with a specialized CableCARD tuner and slot (for example, a TiVo Premiere, or the discontinued Moxi CableCARD DVR), or get a Windows PC, run Windows Media Center on it, and install a CableCARD tuner board or USB device on the system, or use a network-connected CableCARD tuner device.
post #143 of 3145
Thread Starter 
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After setting up my first weekly scheduled recording on the Iview, it twice did not display the correct channel for the recording when I went back in to look at the scheduled timer. Is that normal that it stops displaying the the channel it is set to record? I deleted the timer schedule and tried again and it happened again.
You do realize the number on the display is not the actual channel number (virtual or physical)? Did you actually let it record the program and then view it to see the result? I assume you are referring to the number displaced on the box? I'm sure it recorded the channel you set it to record via the manual method.
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I can't figure out why - never been refused a credit card before.
I think they found out you were a member here. biggrin.gif

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Edited by videobruce - 4/26/13 at 5:01am
post #144 of 3145
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My original post I had put that I am in Las Vegas NV, I have Cox cable. I pay for the Digital Service and have pay channels, but only one Cable Box located in the Living room. I don't watch a lot of tv in the bedroom, but it seems they are converting more and more channels to digital and the amount of programming I can get without a box is becoming limited.
Sorry, I guess I didn't see that.
First of all, have you connected your TV directly to your CATV feed and done a channel scan? If not, do so and report back on the results.
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The support email I got from iview stated that they didn't have much success at all with any cable tv services. Because of this I feel a little misled because it is advertised as cable compatible.
They now realize this.
1. It doesn't display the channel numbers correctly, just as some ridiculous "C0001" and up. This is on the display, not on screen
2. It also doesn't skip encrypted channels, you have to do so yourself which is more ridiculous.

I would/could maybe understand this 10 years ago, but surely not now. It's just another (unfortunate) example of the Chinese wanting to get into the US market that don't have a clue how it should operate over here. They import this 'stuff' and expect their people here to sort out the mess. rolleyes.gif

All of the above I made it clear to them that it has to be addressed. What makes it worse, there is no mention of OTA (ATSC) in the literature unless you dig through their web site for it. This was designed to be a "converter box" with a few extra features. Problem is, the description of what it can and can not do it severely lacking which I also stressed to them. Actually "him". He admitted this was their first DVR. wink.gif

You are actually better cutting a piece of black electrical tape and place it over the display so it doesn't confuse the situation. That would also solve the brightness issue of the display.

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Edited by videobruce - 4/26/13 at 5:04am
post #145 of 3145
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

2. It also doesn't skip encrypted channels, you have to do so yourself which is more ridiculous.

I would/could maybe understand this 10 years ago, but surely not now. It's just another (unfortunate) example of the Chinese wanting to get into the US market that don't have a clue how it should operate over here. They import this 'stuff' and expect their people here to sort out the mess. rolleyes.gif.

How is it supposed to know the signal is scrambled. All it looks for is a signal, just like any other tuner would.

What did you expect for $49?
post #146 of 3145
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Originally Posted by Mark Lopez View Post

How is it supposed to know the signal is scrambled. All it looks for is a signal, just like any other tuner would.
Every other tuner I've used skips 95% of the scrambled channels, don't know how they do it but they do. Have you seen a digital tuner that didn't skip the majority of the scrambled channels, if so what one?
post #147 of 3145
Videobruce, I connected directly and did a scan. I got a lot of channels picked up but when it was done, every channel had a black screen and no sound. I am assuming this is due to all the channels being encrypted. I give up, eventually I guess I will have to rent additional boxes or find something that really picks up basic cable digital channels. If I come across someone who needs a DTV box, I'll give them this.
post #148 of 3145
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How is it supposed to know the signal is scrambled. All it looks for is a signal, just like any other tuner would.
It looks for a RF carrier for the channel. Then it (should) look for active video within those channels. Encrypted channel would not have active video since it is blocked. Apparently whomever designed this has no clue about American CATV systems.
Sometimes some will slip through, but properly designed it should be none. Older Samsung TV's did a double process, after the scan, the system would go through and 'skip' all the encrypted channels. Lame, but at least it mostly worked though it took 2x as long.
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What did you expect for $49?
I would expect it to work properly, or not work at all.
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I connected directly and did a scan. I got a lot of channels picked up but when it was done, every channel had a black screen and no sound. I am assuming this is due to all the channels being encrypted.
I assume this was your TV. If so, then all your channels are encrypted. It is still good for OTA. wink.gif

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Edited by videobruce - 4/26/13 at 9:02pm
post #149 of 3145
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Have you seen a digital tuner that didn't skip the majority of the scrambled channels, if so what one?

 

My Sony DHG-HDD500.

post #150 of 3145
Thread Starter 
Mine didn't have any trouble and I had three. Missing a few doesn't really count.
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