or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › HDTV › HDTV Recorders › iView-3500STB Tuner & DVR Owners Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

iView-3500STB Tuner & DVR Owners Thread - Page 43

post #1261 of 3152
@ jprc

Thanks for that. Worked like a champ. Much appreciated.
post #1262 of 3152
It takes a special unzip utility. You have to be careful what you get, my first try came complete with a virus.
post #1263 of 3152
In the past any thing I have thrown at it was never an issue until these firmware files.
post #1264 of 3152
If you want to try it there is a download link about halfway down for Linux. I've only ever used 7zip on Windows so can't help if you can't get it to work on Linux: http://www.7-zip.org/download.html
post #1265 of 3152
To add when you change the iview to the homeworx nothing on the front works but the red led is always on and the usb port works. Also the games are not in the firmware for the homeworx I don't miss them. The guide is little faster and works better. Also to change channels there is no - key. So say you want to go to 6.2 just type 062 and it goes to 6.2 if you hit ok button it changes faster for say 12.1 just type 121. I like the homeworx firmware just seems to run a lot nicer. The remote is not bad it is built a little better also has some weight to it and fells not as cheap as the iview.

Edit to add the power switch on the front well turn the box on if you do use the homeworx firmware but will not turn it off. So you can turn the box on with power switch on front of the iview.
post #1266 of 3152
Thread Starter 
Post 5 updated
Links provided for V6 & 7 with the single file.

Thanks jprc, I just didn't get around to do the same. redface.gif

.
Edited by videobruce - 7/31/13 at 4:00am
post #1267 of 3152
Thread Starter 
Here is the corrected list.


Underlined entries have either fixed or can't be.
Entries with a * are simple name changes.

1a. When switching channels in the Guide, program names appear in a timely manner, but the associated text (right pane) does not. When and if it does, whatever the initial text was gets carried across to every other channel, getting added to the end of the text for that program.
1b. When the right pane gets populated with details of the program, this causes lockups, or unresponsiveness after surfing through the guide for a few seconds. It takes as long as 10 minutes to regain control if it can at all. This appears to be due to either lack of memory, chip selection and/or a firmware conflict not being able to handle the process.
1c. Add the ability to save program listings when returning to a channel so you don't have to wait for the listings to appear again,
2a. Recordings that span midnight will not allow any additional scheduled events to be added. Also, it will continuously record, Fixed!
2b. Daily and weekly recordings do not record properly. After recording the first show, of a daily series, the date jumps forward 6 days. For a weekly recording the date jumps forward 12 days after the first recording. (thanks to Dave95 for this clarification),
3a. Display the correct channel numbers on the display. If this isn't possible, display only two dashes. That irrelevant number is meaningless.
3b. Show "REC" on the display when recording,
3c. Use the green LED for on. Continue to use the red LED for standby,
3d. Add a sheet of colored film behind the display window to reduce the brightness and change the color to something other than red. Blue is usually the most pleasing,
4a. Add a manual method to enter the correct time. Relying on stations time isn't always accurate. Can't be fixed!
4b. Allow user to select station that has the correct time instead of the system selecting some random station,
4c. The time offset is off by one hour forcing a manual entry, Fixed.
4d. Switch to 12 hour clock format., Can't be fixed!
5. Add an adjustable skip function for playback with adjustable skip periods,
*6a. Rename "Program" to "Channel" in the menu. You are editing channels, not programs. Remove the need for a password and move this to the Channel tab,
*6b. Remove those four choices for sorting the channels. They do not have any affect on channel order. Also, their labels are mostly unknown here. The ability to move individual channels is already there,
7a. When using 'Manual search' to save new channels, return back to the manual search screen after entry is saved instead of exiting. It's a real annoyance to re-enter the screen again to add additional channels,
7b. Add a conformation step when using the 'Auto search' since it's easy to hit it by mistake and wipe out all your channels when you wanted to do a manual search,
8. Reduce the size of the pop up Info boxes (when using the Info button or anytime they appear) and make them transparent so one can see the video behind. They cover too much of the screen, especially the smaller box,
9a. On CATV systems, many of the encrypted channels are not 'skipped' and some 'in the clear' channels do not show forcing a manual add,
9b. Remove that "PR" number from all CATV channels that don't and won't have the stations call letters displayed. It's a meaningless number that only confuses,
10. Activate the 'Quality” scale in the small Info box, not just the large box and don't time out that screen when it is called up manually to aid in antenna orientation,
11. Only 11 program listings per station show, no matter how many the station is actually providing. Partially fixed! Page up/down doesn't always always work,
12. Enhance the contrast of the menus making them easier to read. Darken the darker grays and brighten the text. Consider using colors if possible.
13. When scrolling through the recorded programs, use 'Play' to play the recording in full screen instead of that renamed “Schedule” key which is another confusing dual function button,
14. Remove “Radio” channels. This doesn't always see audio channels as “Radio”, placing many under the normal video. This just makes things more complicated and confusing,
15. Move the “Resume/Exit” pop up box from the top of the playback list screen to the center and change the background color or emphasize it somehow to make it easier to see.
16. Rename 'USB' in Menu and on remote to 'Media' making the function clearer,
*17. Rename “Book” in the manual record screen to 'Schedule'. These aren't airline flights you are scheduling
18. There is no 'space' entry when editing the program names to separate words,
*19. Rename “Movie” in USB mode to “Recordings”. These aren't always movies that are recorded.
20. Change the default HDMI audio to “Raw HDMI On”,
21. Volume & mute have no effect on the HDMI output when in Raw mode (for 5.1 audio),
22. Add a slow motion function,
*23. Remove the “TV Format” entry in the menu since there is no “PAL” format in N. America
24. During recording, when you click on 'Info', there are two entries that should be removed; “Max record size” which seems to be a duplicate of “Disk free space” and “Cur play size” which always shows “0KB”,
25. Is that above pop up suppose to display during playback? If so, it doesn't.
26. Remove all of those distracting, unnecessary digital wipe patterns when in the photos section. Add a simple 'dissolve' function in their place,
27. Unable to return to Photo configure from Multimedia to change settings,
28. Use the l> l> and < l < l buttons to advance or go back in photo mode.

Remote;
1. The remote is way too small. Buttons are too close together. Text is hard to read,
2. Move the number pad to the bottom using the conventional telephone layout,
4. Add dedicated channel up/down buttons and leave the up/dn navigation keys for a single purpose,
5. Remove the duplicated volume up/down from the left/right navigation buttons,
6. Add a separate button for timeshifting. Leave pause by itself.


added 4b, changed the order of a few & clarified some text.
post #1268 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by jprc View Post

If you want to try it there is a download link about halfway down for Linux. I've only ever used 7zip on Windows so can't help if you can't get it to work on Linux: http://www.7-zip.org/download.html

When Robert Chiu email me the V7, it was using extension .7z. 7zip is just another software zip software as winzip or winRAR. If you have
winzip or winRar, you can open it (two files inside)and extract to the usb flash drive, ready to do firmware update.
post #1269 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by png5 View Post

When Robert Chiu email me the V7, it was using extension .7z. 7zip is just another software zip software as winzip or winRAR. If you have
winzip or winRar, you can open it (two files inside)and extract to the usb flash drive, ready to do firmware update.

Well, he's using Linux and was having trouble extracting using his utility. The original files were compressed using 7-zip so that is his best bet for success.
post #1270 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by jprc View Post

Well, he's using Linux and was having trouble extracting using his utility. The original files were compressed using 7-zip so that is his best bet for success.

7zip can be download for Linux, URL is http://www.7-zip.org/download.html
post #1271 of 3152
You just posted the exact same link that I did that you just quoted me posting....
post #1272 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by jprc View Post

You just posted the exact same link that I did that you just quoted me posting....

Sorry for that. I should have read your email more carefully. It is hard to believe that Linux is the only personal choose. I only use Linux as server such as Apache/tomcat, FTP, DNS. Other personal usage, I use window or ipad or smart phone.
post #1273 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by ewhite43 View Post

I'm beginning to wonder what iView is doing. Someone posted earlier that iView had updated there online manual to show the new remote layout. There was nothing listed for the 3500STB under the Manuals section. Under Products, the specs. for the 3500STB has a manual that can be downloaded. When I downloaded it and checked, the layout shown is the original setup. If the new remote layout was posted and then taken down, what are they doing? Or, maybe I just misunderstood the original post.

The person who posted the picture of the updated manual was someone who recently received a box with the new remote and version 7 software installed. If you take another look at the picture you can tell it is an actual picture they took of the physical manual, not the online manual. So iview has probably kept the online manual the same for now since most people who have the box have the old remote but sends out a new version of the manual with the units that ship with the new remote.
post #1274 of 3152
Thanks for everything jprc

@ png5, I have been using Linux for personal use for little over 1 year now. For my primary pc Linux is my only choice. I use windows on my netbook for away from home. I'd say Linux does everything I want 99% of the time. But there's always that chance like just recently when I have an issue. It's not often but it does happen time to time.
post #1275 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I totally agree. Now if you can believe this:
http://www.fiercecable.com/story/cea-fewer-americans-using-over-air-antennas/2013-07-30?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=internal
it would seem that 87% of US consumers get their content from non-OTA sources. Most (I believe) do not support PSIP since they want you to use a box. Now who builds a DVR for those people without a manual clock set? It doesn't seem logical. True, some devices like the CM7400 and TViX can use NTP for a clock set, but those are the minority. It is truly amazing and if iView feels it can thrive without cable users, its Marketing people are dumber than its programmers.

I've been paying attention to Gary Shaprio and CEA for several years. The only time that Gary Shaprio isn't lying is when he's snoring. I don't know if anyone even pays attention to him any more. Sad fact is that CEA members still pay dues to pay this guy's over inflated salary. CEA, fire Mr. Shaprio and hire someone who actually represents your interests in a credible manner!!!
post #1276 of 3152
Thread Starter 
Whomever they place as president (or whatever he is) would be just another lier. It's corporate America, all they do is lie.
post #1277 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by XiXiTT View Post

Thanks for everything jprc

@ png5, I have been using Linux for personal use for little over 1 year now. For my primary pc Linux is my only choice. I use windows on my netbook for away from home. I'd say Linux does everything I want 99% of the time. But there's always that chance like just recently when I have an issue. It's not often but it does happen time to time.

Linux is to Windows like OTA is to Cable/Sat.

A lot of Windows users are totally unaware that it is free and can do everything they need to do on a computer from internet, word processing, spreadsheets, email etc.

There will be some number of people who need Windows for certain things that can't be done on Linux.

While this is NOT a Linux forum it can be very useful with resolving issues with hard drives that we have encountered with DVRS. I can attest to that.
post #1278 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

Whomever they place as president (or whatever he is) would be just another lier. It's corporate America, all they do is lie.

Now, now Bruce. I'm sure there are honest CEOs out there. While hard to find these days you must not be so cynical.

The problem with OTA is we have NO lobby group representing us and so idiots can make any statements they want and there is really no one to challenge them and the veracity of their so called facts. I think this is a very big problem for our community of video/TV enthusiasts.
post #1279 of 3152
Thread Starter 
Quote:
I'm sure there are honest CEOs out there.
Maybe there are, but you forgot the board of directors and everyone under them. wink.gif
The truth is sometimes "cynical".

.
Quote:
The problem with OTA is we have NO lobby group representing us and so idiots can make any statements they want and there is really no one to challenge them and the veracity of their so called facts.
Even if there was, the lobbying group of the above would surely quash it. After all, money talks, few listen the anyone else.
post #1280 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by troydog View Post

To make the iview to a homeworx is easy.

First you need a homeworx or harmony this link is to order the homeworx remote $7.99

http://www.mediasonicstore.com/servlet/the-66/HomeWorx-HW-dsh-150PVR-Remote-Control/Detail

Next you need homworx firmware witch is here and the steps listed are the same for the iview to install it.

http://forum.mediasonic.ca/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=1616


Install it and enjoy. It is easy and there remote is not half bad.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MediasonicEast View Post

QAM enabled firmware just posted
see post #1 http://www.avsforum.com/t/1482341/homeworx-hw-150pvr-support-and-discussion#post_23544364

HomeWorx HW150PVR release a QAM update/fix on firmware V10. Any IV3500 owner with HW-150PVR V10 firmware can confirm if QAM support fix work on cable?
post #1281 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by png5 View Post


HomeWorx HW150PVR release a QAM update/fix on firmware V10. Any IV3500 owner with HW-150PVR V10 firmware can confirm if QAM support fix work on cable?

I don't have cable so can't confirm or not, but I did load the firmware on my iView in case anyone else was hesitant just to let them know the iView will still work with it and it doesn't appear so far to have broken anything (of course I just loaded it though). And the version is not 10 - it is v12.
post #1282 of 3152
We bought an HW150PVR and so far so good. It actually works like we all hoped the 3500 would.

We were using the 3500 as an OTA receiver/DVR, but have now moved it into my wife's office where it's being used as a clear QAM tuner with an older TV set.
One thing I've noticed is that the unit will not stay turned off, something that was not a problem until just recently.
Has this been previously reported? We're using Version 4 firmware.

Thanks. dave
post #1283 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave95 View Post

We bought an HW150PVR and so far so good. It actually works like we all hoped the 3500 would.

We were using the 3500 as an OTA receiver/DVR, but have now moved it into my wife's office where it's being used as a clear QAM tuner with an older TV set.
One thing I've noticed is that the unit will not stay turned off, something that was not a problem until just recently.
Has this been previously reported? We're using Version 4 firmware.

Thanks. dave

I never tried version 4, but did you ever have recordings scheduled on this before? I know when I was on the iView firmware, it would have phantom recordings that did not exist in the schedule anymore and I would have to reset to factory defaults to get rid of them. If you haven't reset to default, I would try that. It may not be related to that at all of course but just a possibility.
post #1284 of 3152
Yes, when used as an OTA receiver, we were able to setup manual recording. The only limitations were the daily/weekly/midnight bugs. The DVR would come on make a recording and shut off. We're not using it to record QAM programming, but just as a tuner. We can turn it off, with the remote or the front panel switch, and with in 20 seconds it will boot back up.
post #1285 of 3152
Oh ok, if it reboots everytime immediately like that, then I don't know. If it was doing it at random times, it could be the phantom recordings issue, since it would be turning the box on to record (or view) even if there is no usb device attached. The phantom recordings would still exist even after I deleted all recordings and the scheduled recordings list was completely blank. You may still want to reset to default and see if it fixes your issue, or try the version 6 or 7 firmware from post 5.
post #1286 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by jprc View Post

The person who posted the picture of the updated manual was someone who recently received a box with the new remote and version 7 software installed. If you take another look at the picture you can tell it is an actual picture they took of the physical manual, not the online manual. So iview has probably kept the online manual the same for now since most people who have the box have the old remote but sends out a new version of the manual with the units that ship with the new remote.

That makes sense. Thanks, I will remain optimist that iView will get it right.
post #1287 of 3152
Thanks, troydog for the info for doing the iView to HomeWorx upgrade.

I placed the order for the remote and downloaded the firmware today.

The firmware was a real, live, .zip file - how refreshing - just right-click and get instant .bin files.

My search for a 7zip utility for the iView zipped files came complete with a virus - thanks a BUNCH iView for making it so difficult.

I like the HomeWorx website also.


Apologies to png but I don't have a QAM source to run against the HomeWorx QAM upgrade.

This entire Tiny-DVR project is an exercise to rid myself of that scourge.
post #1288 of 3152
Update: After more research and digging I found using the gui to extract the firmware files didn't work but command line did. After changing the .ext to 7z and opening command line. Changing to directory with the .7z files. Execute command:

p7zip -d V7 usb_upgrade_all_flash.7z (Or whatever filename may be)

Worked like it should. Just some info for anyone else using Linux in the future.
post #1289 of 3152
Mod please delete this double post?
post #1290 of 3152
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferguson View Post

Thanks, troydog for the info for doing the iView to HomeWorx upgrade.

I placed the order for the remote and downloaded the firmware today.

No problem at all and think you well like the remote a lot better I do. Also the remote uses the same type battery 2 aaa. Also there shipping was fast less then a week to get here.

Edit to add when you install it if using a usb stick like I do. You might have to format it to fat32 I find if it is in ntfs the unit well not install the file. It does a reboot and no update but fat32 works every time.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: HDTV Recorders
AVS › AVS Forum › HDTV › HDTV Recorders › iView-3500STB Tuner & DVR Owners Thread