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Originally Posted by Gt1racer View Post

Who would you have as a dream team on NBC?

Bob Jenkins and Eli Gould.
post #122 of 157
Gotta agree with that Rich, always been sad that Bob got shuffled aside. He's a really good announcer. (I think Mike Joy's pretty good too btw and he has a long history in the sport).

For color I gotta go with Benny, RIP. But I think Ned's kid done good too. wink.gif
post #123 of 157
Okay so it's unanimous, Jenkins and Gould. Make it happen NBC. wink.gif

I will say the PQ for yesterday's NNS race on ABC was pretty good.
post #124 of 157
Info for viewers whose ABC affiliates are airing NFL preseason games instead of tonight's NASCAR race: http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2013/08/saturdays-nascar-sprint-cup-race-to-air-on-alternate-channels-in-seven-markets/
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post #126 of 157
I hope everyone in this thread doesn't have a sore arm, is too hot in there?
post #127 of 157
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Originally Posted by Nayan View Post

Wow, a huge hit for MWR and awesome news for Ryan Newman!:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/la-sp-sn-nascar-chase-penaltes-20130909,0,4072507.story
Whoa, that's a massive fine, is it the biggest ever levied?
post #128 of 157
Yes it is.
post #129 of 157
I know NASCAR is saying that they don't have Bowyer dead to rights on taking a dive, but damn it's pretty compelling circumstantial evidence. I think they just didn't want to open up the can of worms letting Gordon in but they COULD have said that Bowyer is out and everyone else moves up a slot. I mean he said he was sick to his stomach ever since the wreck, was that because he knew what he did was wrong?

This is a serious indictment of where the sport is right now, however, and the only thing worse IMO would be intentionally wrecking in the last race to let someone else win the Cup.
post #130 of 157
Bowyer denies intentional wreck at Richmond.

Bowyer was previously scheduled to spend the day at ESPN before NASCAR sanctioned Michael Waltrip Racing for manipulating the outcome of Saturday night's race. In his first interview, Bowyer said he had apologized to Newman in a phone call for bringing out a caution while Newman was leading but added that racing protocol cost Newman the win.

Asked specifically if the apology was an admission of guilt, Bowyer said: "Let's not dig too much into this."


Uh yeah sure Clint, sorry not buying it. Hopefully NASCAR karma ensures that he never gets a sniff to win the Chase this year.
post #131 of 157
While I am glad Nascar levied fines and suspensions I would have liked to seen Clint taken out of the Chase and Jeff put in. It's like everyone else got slapped but he get's off free.
post #132 of 157
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

I know NASCAR is saying that they don't have Bowyer dead to rights on taking a dive, but damn it's pretty compelling circumstantial evidence. I think they just didn't want to open up the can of worms letting Gordon in but they COULD have said that Bowyer is out and everyone else moves up a slot. I mean he said he was sick to his stomach ever since the wreck, was that because he knew what he did was wrong?

This is a serious indictment of where the sport is right now, however, and the only thing worse IMO would be intentionally wrecking in the last race to let someone else win the Cup.


I agree wholeheartedly. And did anybody notice that in both the Nationwide and Cup races the 2nd place car was allowed to cross the restart line before the actual race leader?
post #133 of 157
Jeff Gordon is in...sorta:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2013/09/13/column-chase-penalties-addition-jeff-gordon-penske-front-row-brian-france/2811913/

This whole thing is messed up. I still would like to know why Clint is in the Chase and get's away with pulling what he did.
post #134 of 157
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Originally Posted by Nayan View Post

This whole thing is messed up. I still would like to know why Clint is in the Chase and get's away with pulling what he did.

I am in favor of Gordon being restored to The Chase just as they had already restored Newman. The difference of 12 or 13 cars in The Chase really doesn't matter to me. Gordon said he felt that Bowyer also deserved to be punished for giving up late track position, just as Vickers did, and he called NASCAR's penalties ''half right.''
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Originally Posted by rich3fan 
And did anybody notice that in both the Nationwide and Cup races the 2nd place car was allowed to cross the restart line before the actual race leader?

Well, the TV media and NASCAR executives love Carl Edwards because he is so good with advertisers. He is the champion that marketing wants to have. When he jumped out ahead to a certain victory, I knew there wasn't going to be any penalty called.

MORE BACKFLIPS! rolleyes.gif
post #135 of 157
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Originally Posted by Nayan View Post

Jeff Gordon is in...sorta:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2013/09/13/column-chase-penalties-addition-jeff-gordon-penske-front-row-brian-france/2811913/

This whole thing is messed up. I still would like to know why Clint is in the Chase and get's away with pulling what he did.

I am not sure how I feel about Gordon. The fact is he didn't win a race and was on the bubble anyway. Newman at least has been to victory lane.


OT - Nayan, I have to change my out of state drivers license. I am driving up 95 on Monday. Are there any non-busy DMV locations in Melbourne, so I can get my license quickly? Thanks.
post #136 of 157
The one by my house is the only one in Melbourne but the wait really isn't that long:

http://www.flhsmv.gov/offices/brevard.html
post #137 of 157
Letting Gordon in is a strange turnaround for NASCAR, who initially insisted that they couldn't do it because of all the domino effects, whatever that meant. I think they've been taking a lot of heat this week, and rightfully so, about the integrity of the sport and felt like they had to do something. What will matter more than this is being able to police any hint of teams trying to rig an outcome and I'm not sure how successful they'll be with that going forward. The statement to teams yesterday that they better race 100% all the time better be backed up with monitoring, trust but verify and all that.

I do think that if any team is caught for it in future the hammer better come down hard, none of this 'dock points after we let you into the Chase' crap that Bowyer got away with. And the $300k fine for the team was a joke, what mattered way more than that was NAPA reevaluating their sponsor relationship with MWR. That's the best outcome here.
post #138 of 157
I think if NAPA drops their sponsorship that would send a message loud and clear. I agree the fine and points docking really wasn't enough and it still makes me smdh as to why Bowyer is allowed in but Truex isn't. But this is Nascar we're talking about, so we'll see how well they monitor the races like they said they would.
post #139 of 157
I have to laugh, as this wouldn't be generating nearly the uproar in F1. I think Nascar has it right with Bowyer in and Truex out. The fact is that none of these bubble guys are going to win the title. It will probably come down to Johnson or one of the Gibbs cars.









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Originally Posted by Nayan View Post

The one by my house is the only one in Melbourne but the wait really isn't that long:

http://www.flhsmv.gov/offices/brevard.html

Thanks. That location is only a couple of miles off of 95, so it shouldn't be that much of a side trip. Anything under a hour is better than the 50 people standing in line outside in Ft Lauderdale..
post #140 of 157
During the rain delay, the people in the booth talking about the chase were defending it. rolleyes.gif
post #141 of 157
It's gonna be a late night folks! Racing is expected to resume at 9 p.m. Central/10 p.m. Eastern on ESPN2. Thank goodness I have tonight off smile.gif.
post #142 of 157
The race is back on btw.
post #143 of 157
I don't think I went to far out on a limb, but I was correct for the first race.smile.gif


Nayan,
Thanks for the info. I went to Vero Beach and was in and out in 15 minutes.
post #144 of 157
Anytime! Glad I could help smile.gif
post #145 of 157
Napa ceases sponsorship of Michael Waltrip racing. Wow. That's pretty huge.
post #146 of 157
That is gigantic news and will have more to do with teams trying to rig outcomes than anything else.

Here's the post for those that don't do facebook:

Dear Facebook Fans and the NAPA Community:

After thorough consideration, NAPA has made the difficult decision to end its sponsorship arrangement with Michael Waltrip Racing effective December 31, 2013. NAPA believes in fair play and does not condone actions such as those that led to the penalties assessed by NASCAR. We remain supportive of the millions of NASCAR fans and will evaluate our future position in motorsports.

NAPA

Bravo NAPA.
post #147 of 157
I applaud NAPA.
post #148 of 157
New jingle, Napa NO NOW, Napa NO NOW.
post #149 of 157
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Originally Posted by Tack View Post

Napa ceases sponsorship of Michael Waltrip racing.

I suspect that there is more to this story than just that race.

Often there are people/companies that are looking to get out of contracts, using the circumstances of an event is just a means to cancel a deal.

NAPA probably has wanted out of the Michael Waltrip Racing deal for some time now, and this "scandal" provided an opportunity to do that.
post #150 of 157
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Originally Posted by Shedrock View Post

I suspect that there is more to this story than just that race.

Often there are people/companies that are looking to get out of contracts, using the circumstances of an event is just a means to cancel a deal.

NAPA probably has wanted out of the Michael Waltrip Racing deal for some time now, and this "scandal" provided an opportunity to do that.

I agree with that. Racing sponsors are pretty tough on the teams behind the scenes. They expect results for their 15 - 20 million a year. I wonder if the decision would be the same if Martin was firmly in the chase.

Plus Mickey was pretty polarizing before the scandal, now it's open season on the guy.

What's surprising to me is that NAPA actually voiced the reason they pulled out. Kind of puts 5-Hour and Aaron's in a weird spot. "Uh... were staying because unlike NAPA, we condone cheating" I don't think like that of course, but I'm sure they're worried that some people do.
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