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post #541 of 781

Hi,
just to add few more versions information. Yesterday I went to a local store in Bratislava (Slovakia).
I have bought UE32F5000. On the sticker on the back of the tv is "Version: 002" and in the service menu I checked and there is Samsung panel in it. :) But the first TV they brought me had a Sharp panel (letter H in the service menu) and the sticker on the back of the tv stated "Version: 003". I didnt compare the screens side by side so I believe that PQ of the Samsung panel is indeed superior to the Sharp panel.
Hopefully this will help someone to choose the TV. Fingers-crossed!

Also can anyone confirm if the UE39F5000 has a chance to have a Samsung panel inside? Thank you!

post #542 of 781
I can't see how your statement can help future purchases.
There is no reason to believe that a Samsung panel is superior to a Sharp panel... only thing that can be deduced from available reports is that Sharp panels tend to have an higher degree of ghosting related problems.
But between two fine working panels there's no proof that a Samsung panel is superior in anyway.
Also it's not known if the number codes on the boxes (or back of TV) of european models have correlation to only 1 or more letters in the Service Menu.
One can't make out anything with only 2 units, a much bigger sample would be needed to make any sort of assumption... which is what it is.
An assumption is not reliable information.

It is believed that Samsung does not produce panels for 39" size.
post #543 of 781
Well I went to go return mine because of the DSE and I don't like the way I was treated. So I told them just give me my money back and I'll give my business to Amazon. I even brought my USB with grey image but it was hard to show them in the brightly lit store and reflections. They wanted to give me a display unit and when I asked to bring it into magnolia in a dark room the guy seemed like he was just not interested in dealing with me. Even though they did do it. It was much more noticable there. But at that point I felt mistreated so I just got my money back.

Just a question, would the 6300 model have much less DSE? Or should I just not even bother to try? I just want to know why my old LN26B460 doesn't have this problem. Is it because it is rear lit? Also, are there any 32" OLED TV's coming out next year?
post #544 of 781
Direct-lit TVs have less uniformity issues than edge lit.
So you should search for such replacement.
Direct-lit TVs can have uniformity issues as well, though.

You shouldn't expect the employees to perfectly understand your issue if it's barelly noticeable in a bright environment, as I said before uniformity issues are common in LCD displays and probably there are customers that manage with much worse screens than yours.
I would suggest you try to see more LCD TVs live in a store, if possible in a dark room they might have, and compare their screen uniformity before buying anything, just so you have an idea of what to expect.

I believe Samsung FH and EH series are direct-lit.
Vizio also has a direct-lit model, not sure if it is available in 32" size...
OLED technology is still not mature enough and to expensive to be adopted in large scale by the TV market so I think it's unlikelly we'll see a 32" OLED TV in the next year... at an affordable price.
Edited by kkl10 - 12/18/13 at 6:49am
post #545 of 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teremei View Post

... Also, are there any 32" OLED TV's coming out next year?

CES begins on January 7, only 3 weeks away. We'll find out then.
post #546 of 781
One question about sharpness:

I see that in PC mode sharpness is "native" at 50, but in other modes, 50 looks artificialy sharpened. Is there a way to tell the native, zero point in non-pc modes?

I just want pixel perfect image without any artificial sharpening or softening, but not in pc mode, if possible.

Thank you.
post #547 of 781
In non-PC mode the neutral sharpness is generally 0.
To find the best setting it's advised to use a test pattern at the native resolution of the screen to calibrate sharpness.
There are numerous ones on the internet for download.
If your TV is connected to a PC, then it's advised to use PC mode because this is the only mode that enables 4:4:4 sampling and this has an influence on how pixel perfect things look on the screen.
post #548 of 781
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Originally Posted by Sikcmo View Post

Also can anyone confirm if the UE39F5000 has a chance to have a Samsung panel inside? Thank you!

Since Samsung doesn't make a 39" panel themselves at all, I'd say you have 0% chance.
post #549 of 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sikcmo View Post

Hi,

just to add few more versions information. Yesterday I went to a local store in Bratislava (Slovakia).

I have bought UE32F5000. On the sticker on the back of the tv is "Version: 002" and in the service menu I checked and there is Samsung panel in it. smile.gif But the first TV they brought me had a Sharp panel (letter H in the service menu) and the sticker on the back of the tv stated "Version: 003". I didnt compare the screens side by side so I believe that PQ of the Samsung panel is indeed superior to the Sharp panel.

Hopefully this will help someone to choose the TV. Fingers-crossed!


Also can anyone confirm if the UE39F5000 has a chance to have a Samsung panel inside? Thank you!

I saw in shop F5000 with 003 version number side by side with Eh5000 + samsung panel and F5000 was producing slightly better color, contrast and it seamed faster so I thought it's better probably because of newer model. After some time of enjoying my F5000 with what I thought was SPVA samsung panel I've entered service menu and ... bam H6 sharp panel biggrin.gif only thing that is not great is viewing angles but I use it as monitor so it's not a problem. Uniformity is really good, no ghosting, great response time.
So I think Sharp panel is pretty awesome as long you get properly working one.
Edited by Art385 - 12/21/13 at 8:42am
post #550 of 781

I would like to talk about the issue about connecting USB device on Samsung 46F5000 and tell you my experience.

 

- When I connect a USB stick of 8GB and USB 2.0 technology, my 46F5000 loads it at 2 seconds and browsing in folders is super fast.

 

- When I connect an external hard drive of 500GB and USB 2.0 technology (powered by USB), my 46F5000 loads it at 10 seconds and browsing in folders is ok.

 

- When I connect an external hard drive of 1TB and USB 3.0 technology (powered by USB and same brand as previous), my 46F5000 loads it at 45 seconds (!!!) and browsing in folders is taking forever.

 

 

Indeed, the e-Manual of the TV states that it doesn't support external HDD but why the HDD of USB 2.0 is working ok and the HDD of USB 3.0 doesn't?

 

1) Does anyone know how much mA is powered by the USB port?  

 

2) Has anyone used a USB stick of USB 3.0 technology Does it work fast?

 

 

 

PS. Sorry for my English :)

post #551 of 781
Have new UN22F5000 I bought to use primarily as a TV in a small home office crammed into a closet. However, I would like to also use it as a monitor for a seldom used backup PC also in that office. F5000 has a second HDMI-IN which can be used for that purpose. However the monitor-out feed from the old hp Pavilion a350n is vga. I see all sorts of of gadgets/cables for converting vga ==>HDMI on Amazon, Monoprice, with reveiws from great to doesn't work. I just wondered if there was anyone out there with such an issue and what is working best for you + any tips.
TIA
starrin
post #552 of 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by petrost8 View Post

I would like to talk about the issue about connecting USB device on Samsung 46F5000 and tell you my experience.

- When I connect a USB stick of 8GB and USB 2.0 technology, my 46F5000 loads it at 2 seconds and browsing in folders is super fast.

- When I connect an external hard drive of 500GB and USB 2.0 technology (powered by USB), my 46F5000 loads it at 10 seconds and browsing in folders is ok.

- When I connect an external hard drive of 1TB and USB 3.0 technology (powered by USB and same brand as previous), my 46F5000 loads it at 45 seconds (!!!) and browsing in folders is taking forever.


Indeed, the e-Manual of the TV states that it doesn't support external HDD but why the HDD of USB 2.0 is working ok and the HDD of USB 3.0 doesn't?

1) Does anyone know how much mA is powered by the USB port?  

2) Has anyone used a USB stick of USB 3.0 technology Does it work fast?



PS. Sorry for my English smile.gif

The USB ports on the TV are only USB 2.0, you won't see any benefit with a USB 3.0 drive and you may actually run into compatibility issues.
Edited by robnix - 12/22/13 at 8:39am
post #553 of 781
+1. Also one should keep in mind that the seek time in USB Flash devices is generally faster than HDDs and the bigger the storage capacity and information contained in it, the longer it takes for an HDD to find all the folders and files and load them to the USB Host device (TV in this case). So this is natural behaviour. The USB port of the F5000 puts out 500mA, or at least that's what it should.

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Originally Posted by starrin View Post

Have new UN22F5000 I bought to use primarily as a TV in a small home office crammed into a closet. However, I would like to also use it as a monitor for a seldom used backup PC also in that office. F5000 has a second HDMI-IN which can be used for that purpose. However the monitor-out feed from the old hp Pavilion a350n is vga. I see all sorts of of gadgets/cables for converting vga ==>HDMI on Amazon, Monoprice, with reveiws from great to doesn't work. I just wondered if there was anyone out there with such an issue and what is working best for you + any tips.
TIA
starrin

If your computer has an USB 3.0 port you can use it to connect an universal docking station with outputs for all sorts for other devices or peripherals. Like this for example.
Or you can just use a simple USB to HDMI converter. Like this.
Lot's of them available.

They are using a the new DisplayLink chipsets to convert the USB port into a graphical output.
Look for those that have the latest DisplayLink DL-3500 chipset which is the more powerfull one.
With USB 3.0 the throughput is high enough that HD movies or games will run smoothly through the docking.
They also work with USB 2.0 ports but here the throughput is to low to do any graphics intensive task.
Edited by kkl10 - 12/22/13 at 9:20am
post #554 of 781

Hi Everyone,

 

So I have a problem I need help with. About a week ago I bought myself the UA40F5500 (UA because I'm in South Africa), This was my first ever TV purchase for myself. I love the TV and its features. But there is a large BUT, mine came with Sharp panel, and I am getting incredibly bad purple ghosting, See below videos for an example:

 

Assassins Creed 4 on PS4:

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2h4f0hg%3E&s=5#.UrgPqoVcWYw

GTA V on Xbox 360:

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2heknxv%3E&s=5#.UrgRd4VcWYw

 

Sorry the video's are not so great, only had a phone to film with. PS4 is connected to HDMI 1 and Xbox to HDMI 2.

 

My question is, Should I return the TV? Baring in mind I will probably just get given another with a Sharp panel (being in Africa we tend to get all the ****) or should I contact Samsung South Africa, and see what they do?

 

I got this TV for gaming and movies, I do have a few SD satellite channels connected to it, but only watch them if there is sport on.

 

Also if it helps, I am currently using Standard setting, with lots of customization, all motion enhancers and filters are off. I have also had this problem in Movie mode

post #555 of 781
Return it and replace it with another set.
Not all Sharp panels have this purple ghosting problem so you may have better luck with another one.
post #556 of 781
What causes it? From the reading I did, it came across to me that the Sharp panels are worst for it. Also, Do shops have to take it back, or can they just refuse to? As I said, its my first Tv purchase, so I don't know these things.

Just to correct myself, I am curently using movie mode, here are my settings:

Picture mode : Movie
Backlight : 20
Contrast : 98
Brightness : 45
Sharpnesd : 10
Colour : 58
Tint : 50/50
Picture size : Screen fit


Advanced Settings.
Dynamic Contrast : off
Black tone : off
Flesh tone : 0
RGB only : off
Colour space : Auto
Gamma : +2
Motion lighting : blured out
White Balance : As follows
R off 25
G off 25
B off 25
R gain 25
G gain 30
B gain 15

Picture Options.
Colour tone : warm 2
Digital clean view: off
MPEG Noise Filter : off
HDMI black level : normal (have my ps4 RGB out set to full)
Film mode: blured out (strangley for movie mode)
LED clear motion : off
post #557 of 781
Personally I like strong, popping looks, have always set TVs to default dynamic. But everone says that is not good bla bla, I just find what people to say are good calibrations, to just look dark, dull and bland, dont know why this is.
post #558 of 781
Dynamic mode is not good fundamentally because it totally destroys picture accuracy and balance (but in the end it's the persons preference that matters so to each his own...) and because this mode generally is the most power hungry. In addition to that, I sometimes feel that in my UE32F5000 it can push the calibrations settings so high that it overdrives the set in some way and could cause damage on the long term... I'm probably wrong but the picture is so extreme that I'm affraid of leaving it in Dynamic mode for long periods of time...

As for whether the seller accepts returns or not that's something you have to ask them yourself, each seller has it's own return politics to deal with.
You should know how things work in your country, if not, let someone more experienced help you.
post #559 of 781
I used to use dynamic but nowadays it seems like even standard with a little bit of altering is pretty impressive looking to me. I just like to have some level of dynamic contrast turned on and black levels on high. I just like the contrast of having something bright next to something darkened, it really improves the look IMO.

Any way I don't own this set any more. I went and god a Sony KDL70R550A and dynamic mode is way way too colorful. However the set looks impressive just with a little alteration of general picture. Dynamic was good for years ago when TV's didn't naturally seem to "pop out of the screen". Good LEDs do that now even in Cinema mode as long as the settings and content are good.
post #560 of 781

Hi guys, i recently find out this site and i think it's wonderful. For christmas i buy a samsung UE (cause i live in europe) 42f5000, i find a good offer at a supermarket.

I already open it because i want to see how it work, and it seems fine to me. But when i try to connect and USB drive (8gb) it see all the film inside, it reproduce well .avi but when i try to reproduce .mkv film the lag, what can cause the lag? i have to upgrade the system?

 

Can somebody also suggest me the best setting? i use the tv for the most of time watching tv program or film. 

Thanks a lot!!!

post #561 of 781
FWIW, I purchased Samsung UE22F5000AK last summer for use in my system as a secondary monitor. Primary monitor is Panasonic TX-P50GT50 plasma display.

In it's own way, the Samsung is every bit the equal of the Panasonic. Great picture quality.

My 2p. wink.gif
post #562 of 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by kkl10 View Post

Direct-lit TVs have less uniformity issues than edge lit.
So you should search for such replacement.
Direct-lit TVs can have uniformity issues as well, though.

You shouldn't expect the employees to perfectly understand your issue if it's barelly noticeable in a bright environment, as I said before uniformity issues are common in LCD displays and probably there are customers that manage with much worse screens than yours.
I would suggest you try to see more LCD TVs live in a store, if possible in a dark room they might have, and compare their screen uniformity before buying anything, just so you have an idea of what to expect.

I believe Samsung FH and EH series are direct-lit.
Vizio also has a direct-lit model, not sure if it is available in 32" size...
OLED technology is still not mature enough and to expensive to be adopted in large scale by the TV market so I think it's unlikelly we'll see a 32" OLED TV in the next year... at an affordable price.
The "H" means direct lit. E series is 2012 model. F series is 2013.
post #563 of 781
So I've been thinking about getting the UN40F5500 but I'm worried about this light dimming issue. Has anyone found a fix so that it doesn't ever dim?
post #564 of 781
See if selecting Movie preset and changing Backlight setting to anything different from default value disables the dimming.
This seems to clear the issue for me sometimes and someone else has said so to...
post #565 of 781
I apologize if this information can be found elsewhere, but I have a Samsung LCD that has no "audio in" jack. My computer is an old Macbook which outputs "mini-DVI" which does not include audio. So, how do I connect audio to my Samsung that will play along with the video from the computer HDMI connection? (If I run a headphones to RCA composite red/white cable, will it play while showing the HDMI video? Sorry, I don't have it to test it)

Thanks for any help
post #566 of 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by dishrag2 View Post

I apologize if this information can be found elsewhere, but I have a Samsung LCD that has no "audio in" jack. My computer is an old Macbook which outputs "mini-DVI" which does not include audio. So, how do I connect audio to my Samsung that will play along with the video from the computer HDMI connection? (If I run a headphones to RCA composite red/white cable, will it play while showing the HDMI video? Sorry, I don't have it to test it)

Thanks for any help

This is exactly what I used to do. Works fine.
post #567 of 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by kkl10 View Post

+1. Also one should keep in mind that the seek time in USB Flash devices is generally faster than HDDs and the bigger the storage capacity and information contained in it, the longer it takes for an HDD to find all the folders and files and load them to the USB Host device (TV in this case). So this is natural behaviour. The USB port of the F5000 puts out 500mA, or at least that's what it should.
 
I tested one another external Hard Disk, INTENSO 1TB with USB 3.0 and it works perfect!
So, my conclusion is that my first failed test with an external Hard Disk which is a WD Elements 1TB with USB 3.0 has a compatibility issue with the Samsung 46F5000 or perhaps it needs more power supply than the power the USB of the Samsung can provide.  
post #568 of 781
Oh also does this have an audio output besides optical? My little stereo I plan on using on has RCA input.
post #569 of 781
It has a 3,5 mm stereo audio output at the back for headphones but should work with any device with analog stereo input like yours.
post #570 of 781
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teremei View Post

Thanks, I really like this for PS4 too. Makes Black Flag seem even more natural and the colors just "pop" more. I think it helped that I went into the PS4 settings and changed from "auto" or whatever and selected 1080p. Because it looks naturally more sharp now. I don't use the same settings for WiiU because those games tend to be more "colorful and gamey" graphics as opposed to going for realism. So I set backlight and color a bit higher. I also tend to like Dynamic contrast higher or black levels low or "darkest". I enjoy the look of that.

I have a concern though. I am not sure but my best guess is it is "clouding"? When playing Assassin's Creed Black Flag on PS4 and there is a bright sky when a rotate the camera around it almost seems there is some un-uniformity in the lighting. It's not constant and hard to see, but once you see it, it cannot be unseen. I want to know should I just expect some or is it possible to get a 32" F550 with hardly any at all? Kinda sucks to be replacing a 4 year old 26" LCD with a beautiful display that adds a new, very annoying problem. I can't unsee it now and I need some encouragement that a replacement might not have that problem. It is a TS01 panel.

This is probably the texture flicker issues people are having with AC4 on the new consoles. I have it on Xbox One on my flawless plasma too.
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