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post #391 of 417
I am about to purchase the 32ln5300 or the. 39 inch model. The main use will be as a pc monitor, however i also plan to use the 2nd HDMI input for TV and xbox 360, (via an hdmi splitter).

I assume that I can have settings for HDMI 1 for my monitor and different settings for HDMI 2 for my TV/Xbox 360, is my assumption correct?

I also assume that I should have my TV and Xbox 360 on HDMI two and only my PC on HDMI one. In other words the combination of my TV and Xbox 360 is better than a combination of TV and PC on the same hdmi.


I hope my questions make sense. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
post #392 of 417
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Originally Posted by bills8321 View Post

I have discovered something that's kind if interesting..if you set aspect ratio to "just scan" it shows more of the screen at least for the xbox 360 than 16:9. 16:9 enlarges everything and shows less of the screen. I am now wondering if "just scan" is better than 16:9...?
It is. Always use 'Just Scan' when you can.
post #393 of 417
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I can confirm this, actually. I saw that same thread on Hardforums and I've tested 1.9 gamma compared to 2.2 and 2.4. While playing Rockband 3 on my Xbox 360, its probably the 3rd best setting on the LG to reduce input lag (PC mode being first, then Black level - High being second).

I had an LG 32LD450 (2010 32" CCFL LCD) and I convinced my grandmother to trade me for the LG 32LN5300 (2013 32" LED LCD) because they are basically the same (except for the backlight technology which she didn't mind {I calibrated with the backlight set so low it barely takes any power} ). I told her I bought my TV for the same price and they have both the same features (plus, I had the 32LD450 calibrated so it was already set up for her unlike the 32LN5300).

Both TV's have the Gamma, PC mode, and Black Light setting respectively, albeit the LN5300's PC mode actually works like it suppose to, where as the LD450's PC mode enables the 4:4:4 "window" but still keeps red and magenta, hell every bit of text blurry (EDID override needed). This means LG has responded to the Issue of having 4:4:4 and Audio at the same time over a single HDMI cable. Thank gawd...

TV's have always been hardcoded/built around 1.8/1.9 gamma for TV broadcast material. Computer monitor's are built around 2.2 gamma because they initially don't get used with terrestial coax signals (unless you have an HDMI equipped monitor and use a set-top box). Changing the Gamma setting on a TV is totally an enhancement. You calibrate for gamma using a video card's settings, not the TV and will cause input delay (same kind of effect the TV has when it has to calculate the 0-15 and 236-255 shades while using LOW black level).

Set it to 1.9 and calibrate everything for that range. You will also receive the best contrast ratio. Perfect gamma is the hardest thing to calibrate for on a display so don't be disappointed if you can't properly calibrate for 2.2.

I have question. If I am using game mode the options for gamma are low medium and high with input label on game and av mode on game. So what would be the appropriate gamma setting for game mode in non pc input label?
post #394 of 417
Does anyone know the name of the S-IPS panel this TV uses? Not the A-MVA that some have.

I am under warranty so I contacted LG to see if I can repair or replace my TV that has a dead pixel and some backlight uniformity issues. They are sending a technician from a local repair company to service my TV, but when he gets here I know he's going to tell me they can't fix it and he doesn't have the panel to replace it with.

So I thought this is a perfect opportunity where I can ask if they can order the S-IPS panel to swap it with my current and problematic A-MVA one. Since these TVs can be found with either one of these panels I am pretty sure it will be compatible if you swap one out for the other. Though I hope, since this is all through the warranty, that LG will cover the costs.
post #395 of 417
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Originally Posted by suade View Post

Does anyone know the name of the S-IPS panel this TV uses? Not the A-MVA that some have.

I am under warranty so I contacted LG to see if I can repair or replace my TV that has a dead pixel and some backlight uniformity issues. They are sending a technician from a local repair company to service my TV, but when he gets here I know he's going to tell me they can't fix it and he doesn't have the panel to replace it with.

So I thought this is a perfect opportunity where I can ask if they can order the S-IPS panel to swap it with my current and problematic A-MVA one. Since these TVs can be found with either one of these panels I am pretty sure it will be compatible if you swap one out for the other. Though I hope, since this is all through the warranty, that LG will cover the costs.

How can I tell which panel I have. I own the 32" model.
post #396 of 417
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How can I tell which panel I have. I own the 32" model.



On the box shown above, underneath the second bardcode, it will either say 42LN5300-UB.BUSDLMR or 42LN5300-UB.BUSYLJR. Which do you have?
post #397 of 417
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On the box shown above, underneath the second bardcode, it will either say 42LN5300-UB.BUSDLMR or 42LN5300-UB.BUSYLJR. Which do you have?

Like I said I have the 32" model so it says 32ln5300-UB.AUSYLJM.
post #398 of 417
Sorry, my post above was a copied from last page, never changed the model. I'm pretty sure you have an S-IPS panel,
the service code is different than the 42" ones but the general rule of thumb is if the service code has a D in it it's MVA and if it has a Y it's IPS. Although I can't be certain. Can you get a macro shot of your screen or look real closely to see the shape of the pixels? If they are square shaped you have MVA, while the chevron shaped ones are IPS.

Also, quick question, do you notice anything you don't like about the screen?

For instance, look at this photo:


Specifically, the entire screen is darker on the far right. Do you have any discolorations or backlight uniformity issues (dark spots) in certain areas on your screen?
post #399 of 417
sorry double post
post #400 of 417
@suadeUnless my brain is playing tricks on me the pixels look chevron shaped. I don't know what to display to take a picture for comparison. On your pic I do notice darkness in the corners of the screen and that spot on the right. Could be a faulty set. I once had a 22in Vizio LCD and it had a broken lamp out of the box. Did you try turning off the energy saving? It looks like your hooked up to a pc. When I put mine in pc mode energy saving was switched on for some reason. My only issue with this set is a red tint to the overall picture when using game mode and I can't do anything to help it. I'm forced to use game mode for gaming to reduce input lag. I don't really like pc mode for some of the games I play.
post #401 of 417
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Originally Posted by bills8321 View Post

@suadeUnless my brain is playing tricks on me the pixels look chevron shaped. I don't know what to display to take a picture for comparison. On your pic I do notice darkness in the corners of the screen and that spot on the right. Could be a faulty set. I once had a 22in Vizio LCD and it had a broken lamp out of the box. Did you try turning off the energy saving? It looks like your hooked up to a pc. When I put mine in pc mode energy saving was switched on for some reason. My only issue with this set is a red tint to the overall picture when using game mode and I can't do anything to help it. I'm forced to use game mode for gaming to reduce input lag. I don't really like pc mode for some of the games I play.

Well this is not my picture, it was a picture of someone comparing the 42" MVA and IPS one pages back. So I don't know his settings tongue.gif The image above is the IPS version, I'm only asking because I've heard some things about backlight uniformity issues (dark areas on the screen) that come with some IPS, for example an extreme case but shows what I'm trying to describe well:



I have the A-MVA 42", and I do notice dark spots in all corners, but that is most likely due to the VA panel's contrast shift because I'm not looking at the TV at the same height. The reason I was wondering is becasue my panel has a dead pixel and some weird dark spots of it's own, but I don't know if it's a backlight issue since I can only notice it during moving scenes. LG warranty got me in contact with a local repair shop that was going to take a look, but after explaining the problem they agreed that they'll most likely have to replace the panel. So I could ask them to order the IPS panel instead of the MVA one (it should be compatible because it's the same TV), but I don't know if the IPS panel is any more problematic.

Also, about your red tint issue. If you changed the input label to PC, it is in PC mode no matter what picture settings you're using. I find that it does offer some improvements to picture quality and lag. I actually don't like to use game mode myself, I keep it on the "Vivid" setting I tweaked around a bit. As far as the red tint goes, if you go into the picture settings menu at the bottom there are sliders for the tint and color temperature settings. And right below that there is a Picture Option menu, just make sure Noise Reduction is off. I really dont notice any lag with this TV. If anything though, I noticed that this TV has some trouble in fast paced games where looking around has that jaggy, low fps (on the ps4). But maybe it's just in my head because I've spoiled myself with a 120hz PLS monitor.
Edited by suade - 2/28/14 at 7:17am
post #402 of 417
@suade

If I do have the IPS panel; everything looks great. No issues at all besides the red tint on game mode. I've tried everything in game mode. Color temp, tint, and even turning down the color red. Nothing seemed to help. I guess I'll try using expert settings and play a few games to test out the lag again but it felt better on game mode. Maybe I'm just imagining extra input lag.
post #403 of 417
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Does anyone know the name of the S-IPS panel this TV uses? Not the A-MVA that some have.

I am under warranty so I contacted LG to see if I can repair or replace my TV that has a dead pixel and some backlight uniformity issues. They are sending a technician from a local repair company to service my TV, but when he gets here I know he's going to tell me they can't fix it and he doesn't have the panel to replace it with.

So I thought this is a perfect opportunity where I can ask if they can order the S-IPS panel to swap it with my current and problematic A-MVA one. Since these TVs can be found with either one of these panels I am pretty sure it will be compatible if you swap one out for the other. Though I hope, since this is all through the warranty, that LG will cover the costs.


The IPS panel is made by LG, and the model number can be found by removing the back cover of the TV. It's printed on a white label on the back of the IPS panel. Post a pic of the label.


Edited by avs2source - 3/6/14 at 12:01am
post #404 of 417
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As reported, do NOT use game mode - go to input labels, and set the input label to PC. Feed it RGB444, and use expert 1, then calibrate accordingly. I punched in Tralfamadore's settings on page 6 as a starting point to speed up calibration, and here's a reminder that even identical panels from factory will display vastly different gamuts - measuring rec.709/sRGB was a full 7 or 8dE off from spec (but better than factory, and better than you would ever get with your eye). I confirm his findings, warm2 was very close to tracking the specified 6500k out of the box, whereas warm1 was insanely off base, by a few thousand k. This is as reported by my spectrophotometer, which is a scientific device severely lacking an opinion. I'm not quite sure why MDA400 stated multiple times that warm1 was closer to spec, it measured extremely poorly. He either received a defective panel, or was just being stubborn. (his calibration settings showing a full 50 points of adjustment needed to hit 6500k when using warm1 indicates the latter).

Anyway, after using a probe and dialing it in 100%, I was amazed at how close it was out of the box (using the proper modes). It looks fabulous for a consumer panel, the contrast is great, black level is good but more importantly black detail is quite acceptable for a consumer panel. I've always been very disappointed when I've purchased a consumer flatscreen but this is far from the case here. Sharpness is perfect, text looks perfect, I'm in love. If you're looking for a tv for your den, this is it. If you're looking for a large panel to replace your pc monitor, this is it. If you're looking for a TV for pc gaming (or console), this is definitely it. I'll save you from posting my calibrated settings as they'll get you no closer than Tralfamadore's, and it's a total gamble if your panel will display the same. The key points if you don't have time to fully dial it in is input label set to pc, picture mode expert, sharpness around 15, warm2. be sure you're feeding it full range video (0-255). Brightness around 50, Contrast around 95, backlight around 36, (to hit the loose 140cdm/2 sRGB viewing spec) eco mode off. All the enhancements off. Something to note is to save the 20 point whitebalance for last. Changing your brightness or contrast or backlight even slightly will vastly change the response curves for each channel, and your lovely whitebalance settings will now be very different, and need to be changed. so do it last. Also worth noting is that the 20 point whitebalance is nothing more than a 20 point gamma response curve adjustment for each channel, so any large changes at various points will also alter your gamma, so you might need to then go back and adjust your brightness/contrast. (and then back to change your whitebalance, keep doing this back and forth until you feel yourself losing the will to live). I can't imagine doing this without a probe. Seriously, pick up a colormunki or something for 60 bucks on ebay and use something free like dispcalgui. your life will be easier, and you'll start realizing how inaccurate everything you own is, and you'll calibrate all of it. Even your phone. (yes, I calibrated my phone. dispcalgui http remote testchart display + Android CM custom kernel allowing white balance adjustment).

Please for the love of god do not try to set anything like a twenty point calibration using just your eyes and charts. The eye is a subjective observer with a constantly changing reference you have no control over. There is no way you will do anything but throw it further out of whack. I can't tell you how many times I've come into a studio and had to fix a "calibrated" reference panel where someone set white balance or gamma response by eye. I do this for a living and have spent thousands of hours in a grading suite, yet still, when I set something by eye, I'm always floored by how far off it is when I take an actual probe to it. Your eye adjusts constantly and huge variations end up looking like something else, or nothing at all. Just don't do it. "The Art and Technique of Digital Color Correction" has a few good chapters on why this is impossible and highly inadvisable.

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@Jon Sands, can you post (1) your calibrated settings and post (2) a pic of the white label (sticker) of the panel? The white label can be found glued to the back of the panel after you removed the back cover of the TV.

post #405 of 417
I have a little informative post for you guys. This applies only to the 42LN5300 (and most likely the 5700 too).

I have found the panel model # for both the A-MVA and the S-IPS panels our TV's come with. Proof is below if you need confirmation.

A-MVA panel: AUO T420HVN05.1

S-IPS panel: LG Display LC420DUE-SFR3

Note: With the LG panel, there are other similar panels with different suffixes. See here. They differ in brightness and contrast, but they look similar enough to all be compatible. I'm guessing it just depends on what they can order, so you might end up with any one of these. On the other hand, I couldn't find any similar enough panels for the AUO one. You can see there are a few here but only the first one is AMVA3 and has the same exact outline depth of 35mm compared to the IPS. So in short, there might be a few different IPS panels in the lottery for this TV, but they are very similar. However, I'm almost certain there is only one type of A-MVA panel.

So like I said a few posts earlier I needed to replace my 42LN5300's panel, so I contacted LG and they had a local repair shop contact me to see what the issue was. I explained to them my panel issues and explained that it probably had to be replaced, and they agreed. Since I have the A-MVA panel, I asked if they could order the S-IPS one, completely thinking they would say no. To my surprise, they said no problem, and they just installed it today. I didn't take any pictures, but I saw the white sticker on the back of each panel and looked it up. So there's the proof. It is 100% compatible and working fine. Unfortunately I got unlucky again, the IPS panel has a stuck blue pixel in the lower left corner, but I think that's still better than an inferior panel with a dead pixel and uniformity issues.

So if anyone has the A-MVA panel (service code 42LN5300-UB.BUSDLMR), has an issue with their panel, needs a replacement and is still under warranty, try asking for the S-IPS one. It is better than the A-MVA in every single way except for blacks (which appear like a very dark grey on most IPS). When they ask, just give them the service code from the TV's with the IPS panel, 42LN5300-UB.BUSYLJR.

Also unrelated, but I was doing some parts research last night, and found the IPS version 42LN5300 as well as the 42LN5400 on sears parts direct. Both panels for both TV's have the same model number, so we can assume the 42LN5400 uses the same exact IPS panel as well.

And that's about it. I'm happy I got a free "upgrade." smile.gif Please ask if you have questions!
Edited by suade - 3/7/14 at 9:05am
post #406 of 417

Hello guys! I am new here, and I have been looking for suggestions for a new TV, mostly for gaming. While doing research and talking to people, I have been pointed out to look at this model. My budget is 1,000, would you consider this a good TV for gaming to use with an Xbox360 and WiiU? Or should I consider other models? 

post #407 of 417
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Hello guys! I am new here, and I have been looking for suggestions for a new TV, mostly for gaming. While doing research and talking to people, I have been pointed out to look at this model. My budget is 1,000, would you consider this a good TV for gaming to use with an Xbox360 and WiiU? Or should I consider other models? 


At this point I'd recommend the LN5400 line, with one caveat. It is pretty much the same exact TV as the LN5300, but unlike the LN5300 there is no panel lottery, it is guaranteed IPS. Compared to MVA panels (the other panels the LN5300 can found with), IPS has better colors, input lag, viewing angles, etc. It only doesn't compare to MVA with blacks. Blacks on an IPS usually look like more of a dark gray. The LN5400 also uses Trumotion, LG's motion interpolation feature. The TV claims to be 120hz, but it's most likely 60hz made to look like 120hz via Trumotion. This is the "soap opera effect" you might have heard of. While it might help in fast paced games and movies, many people do not like the effect it produces. This is where the caveat I mentioned earlier comes in, many people have reported that Trumotion cannot be turned off on this TV. I cannot confirm this, so my advice to you would be to go to an electronics store that has it in stock and check out the TV, see if Trumotion can be turned off or not. If you can or you don't mind the effect, get that TV, Trumotion may be useful in certain situations. If you don't like Trumotion and it can't be turned off or don't care about IPS then pick up the LN5300. It's cheaper and it's still mostly the same TV. Whichever you decide, these are still great TV's for gaming and look great when hooked up to a PC.
post #408 of 417
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I have a little informative post for you guys. This applies only to the 42LN5300 (and most likely the 5700 too).

I have found the panel model # for both the A-MVA and the S-IPS panels our TV's come with. Proof is below if you need confirmation.

A-MVA panel: AUO T420HVN05.1

S-IPS panel: LG Display LC420DUE-SFR3

Note: With the LG panel, there are other similar panels with different suffixes. See here. They differ in brightness and contrast, but they look similar enough to all be compatible. I'm guessing it just depends on what they can order, so you might end up with any one of these. On the other hand, I couldn't find any similar enough panels for the AUO one. You can see there are a few here but only the first one is AMVA3 and has the same exact outline depth of 35mm compared to the IPS. So in short, there might be a few different IPS panels in the lottery for this TV, but they are very similar. However, I'm almost certain there is only one type of A-MVA panel.

So like I said a few posts earlier I needed to replace my 42LN5300's panel, so I contacted LG and they had a local repair shop contact me to see what the issue was. I explained to them my panel issues and explained that it probably had to be replaced, and they agreed. Since I have the A-MVA panel, I asked if they could order the S-IPS one, completely thinking they would say no. To my surprise, they said no problem, and they just installed it today. I didn't take any pictures, but I saw the white sticker on the back of each panel and looked it up. So there's the proof. It is 100% compatible and working fine. Unfortunately I got unlucky again, the IPS panel has a stuck blue pixel in the lower left corner, but I think that's still better than an inferior panel with a dead pixel and uniformity issues.

So if anyone has the A-MVA panel (service code 42LN5300-UB.BUSDLMR), has an issue with their panel, needs a replacement and is still under warranty, try asking for the S-IPS one. It is better than the A-MVA in every single way except for blacks (which appear like a very dark grey on most IPS). When they ask, just give them the service code from the TV's with the IPS panel, 42LN5300-UB.BUSYLJR.

Also unrelated, but I was doing some parts research last night, and found the IPS version 42LN5300 as well as the 42LN5400 on sears parts direct. Both panels for both TV's have the same model number, so we can assume the 42LN5400 uses the same exact IPS panel as well.

And that's about it. I'm happy I got a free "upgrade." smile.gif Please ask if you have questions!

 

Glad to hear that you finally found the panel model numbers! For the "stuck blue pixel", try massaging it with a microfiber cloth. It might go away, but might reappear again in the future, depending on the quality of the "damaged" crystal.

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Hello guys! I am new here, and I have been looking for suggestions for a new TV, mostly for gaming. While doing research and talking to people, I have been pointed out to look at this model. My budget is 1,000, would you consider this a good TV for gaming to use with an Xbox360 and WiiU? Or should I consider other models? 

 

 

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At this point I'd recommend the LN5400 line, with one caveat. It is pretty much the same exact TV as the LN5300, but unlike the LN5300 there is no panel lottery, it is guaranteed IPS. Compared to MVA panels (the other panels the LN5300 can found with), IPS has better colors, input lag, viewing angles, etc. It only doesn't compare to MVA with blacks. Blacks on an IPS usually look like more of a dark gray. The LN5400 also uses Trumotion, LG's motion interpolation feature. The TV claims to be 120hz, but it's most likely 60hz made to look like 120hz via Trumotion. This is the "soap opera effect" you might have heard of. While it might help in fast paced games and movies, many people do not like the effect it produces. This is where the caveat I mentioned earlier comes in, many people have reported that Trumotion cannot be turned off on this TV. I cannot confirm this, so my advice to you would be to go to an electronics store that has it in stock and check out the TV, see if Trumotion can be turned off or not. If you can or you don't mind the effect, get that TV, Trumotion may be useful in certain situations. If you don't like Trumotion and it can't be turned off or don't care about IPS then pick up the LN5300. It's cheaper and it's still mostly the same TV. Whichever you decide, these are still great TV's for gaming and look great when hooked up to a PC.

 

LN5400 does not guarantee IPS panel. The only way to confirm IPS panel is to remove the back cover of the TV and check the white label/sticker on the back of the panel (as I mentioned earlier) or inspect the arrangement of pixels by taking macro pic of the panel. 

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Hello guys! I am new here, and I have been looking for suggestions for a new TV, mostly for gaming. While doing research and talking to people, I have been pointed out to look at this model. My budget is 1,000, would you consider this a good TV for gaming to use with an Xbox360 and WiiU? Or should I consider other models? 

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At this point I'd recommend the LN5400 line, with one caveat. It is pretty much the same exact TV as the LN5300, but unlike the LN5300 there is no panel lottery, it is guaranteed IPS. Compared to MVA panels (the other panels the LN5300 can found with), IPS has better colors, input lag, viewing angles, etc. It only doesn't compare to MVA with blacks. Blacks on an IPS usually look like more of a dark gray. The LN5400 also uses Trumotion, LG's motion interpolation feature. The TV claims to be 120hz, but it's most likely 60hz made to look like 120hz via Trumotion. This is the "soap opera effect" you might have heard of. While it might help in fast paced games and movies, many people do not like the effect it produces. This is where the caveat I mentioned earlier comes in, many people have reported that Trumotion cannot be turned off on this TV. I cannot confirm this, so my advice to you would be to go to an electronics store that has it in stock and check out the TV, see if Trumotion can be turned off or not. If you can or you don't mind the effect, get that TV, Trumotion may be useful in certain situations. If you don't like Trumotion and it can't be turned off or don't care about IPS then pick up the LN5300. It's cheaper and it's still mostly the same TV. Whichever you decide, these are still great TV's for gaming and look great when hooked up to a PC.

LN5400 does not guarantee IPS panel. The only way to confirm IPS panel is to remove the back cover of the TV and check the white label/sticker on the back of the panel (as I mentioned earlier) or inspect the arrangement of pixels by taking macro pic of the panel. 

How in the world can LG ship a TV with either an IPS or a VA panel under the same product number? Think what that would mean for reviews - the TV is reviewed based on one type of panel (and has VA contrast, for example) and then you buy based on that review and end up with an IPS panel with inferior contrast??? Unless reviewers are told the product can ship with either panel type and are given one of each type to review so the reviewer can explain all of this, I would think this would be something that could get LG into trouble...
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Glad to hear that you finally found the panel model numbers! For the "stuck blue pixel", try massaging it with a microfiber cloth. It might go away, but might reappear again in the future, depending on the quality of the "damaged" crystal.
Thanks, I'll give it a try. smile.gif Maybe JScreenFix will work if that fails? Or is a waste? Didn't fix the stuck pixel on my monitor. I was also wrong about it being a blue stuck pixel. It might be two stuck pixels right next to each other, or two points within the chevron pixel itself, but I notice both a red dot and a blue dot. I think the pixel goes back to normal when that pixel displays blue, red and yellow. I think it could be an issue with the subpixel, I have a similar green stuck pixel on my monitor that changes brightness depending on what it's displaying, sometimes it will even become a dead pixel and come back as soon as I change something on the screen.
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LN5400 does not guarantee IPS panel. The only way to confirm IPS panel is to remove the back cover of the TV and check the white label/sticker on the back of the panel (as I mentioned earlier) or inspect the arrangement of pixels by taking macro pic of the panel. 
All the reviews say it's IPS, and it says so it right on the LG website:
http://www.lg.com/hk_en/tvs/lg-42LN5400
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How in the world can LG ship a TV with either an IPS or a VA panel under the same product number? Think what that would mean for reviews - the TV is reviewed based on one type of panel (and has VA contrast, for example) and then you buy based on that review and end up with an IPS panel with inferior contrast??? Unless reviewers are told the product can ship with either panel type and are given one of each type to review so the reviewer can explain all of this, I would think this would be something that could get LG into trouble...

This is what is called a panel lottery. Many TV's of the same model number are assembled with different panels, although I'm not sure if it's unusual to have different panel types. But I can confirm that this is in fact true for the 42LN5300. We've confirmed the existence of two panels before, but if you want the ultimate confirmation, I saw it this morning. An AUO A-MVA3 panel came out of my TV this morning, and an LG S-IPS panel (that he ordered from the service code of the IPS version of this TV) went in, and it works completely fine. In response to what you said, LG has never specified anything about the panel type with the LN5300 series. It's true the MVA and IPS panels differ and brightness and contrast ratio, but LG didn't even list the brightness or contrast ratio in the technical specs or the datasheet on their site. Before I bought this TV, I asked LG directly if these TV's had IPS panels, and naturally the person who replied back had no idea. It felt like to me they're playing dumb. They probably didn't even let reviewers know about the different panel types, so I'm sure a lot of people bought this model and kept it thinking it's IPS, when it was actually MVA. From the stores that I have been to that have it in stock, and from people telling me their service code, I've drawn the conclusion that the IPS version has become more of a rarity.
Edited by suade - 3/8/14 at 2:10am
post #412 of 417

Hello All,

 

Just bought the 42 inch ln5300 set yesterday. I updated the firmware. My set was manufactured in March 2013. It had firmware version 3.09 and I updated it to 3.11 , the latest one in the LG website. 

Anyways went through the thread and got lots of tips on setting the picture settings. Thanks. I tried the LG service menu tricks link given by one of the posters and could not get the tv to open up the service menu.

 

I would like to enable video playback on this tv. Anyone has a working method to get to the service menu? Help appreciated.

 

Thanks.

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Ok. tried messing with my logitech harmony remote and tried out the hack posted in the web. I have got into the service menu but cannot see the USB or Divx enabling option. Anybody care to pitch in some ideas as to which option to go to and change?

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Hey Guys I just bought the 42LN5300-UB.BUSDLJR for my son's birthday present. I am going to set it up on his birthday (wall mount). It's going to be a total surprise. It will be used for XBOX ONE, watching netflix, dvd and blue ray. I'm going to go back and read all 14 pages, but does anyone have to TLDNR version? I did I get the IPS or MVA version?
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Originally Posted by q3131a View Post

Hey Guys I just bought the 42LN5300-UB.BUSDLJR for my son's birthday present. I am going to set it up on his birthday (wall mount). It's going to be a total surprise. It will be used for XBOX ONE, watching netflix, dvd and blue ray. I'm going to go back and read all 14 pages, but does anyone have to TLDNR version? I did I get the IPS or MVA version?

 

Based on the info you provided. You "might" have the MVA panel. The only way to 100% confirm the panel type is to remove the back cover of the TV and check the white label/sticker on the back of the panel or inspect the arrangement of pixels by taking macro pic of the panel. Post the pics of the white label and pixel arrangement here.

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For anyone looking to jump into this and trying to find an IPS I can confirm most if not all the ones Best Buy currently have in stock are "Y"models that are IPS.

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Hey there. Im from Canada and I think we have different model numbers here . but I'm looking at the LN5310. I'm wondering if this TV is the 5300 series. I'm a PS 4 gamer and would like to know the input lag is on the 50". The data base doesn't have it . thanks
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