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post #1231 of 3317
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Originally Posted by sasker View Post

Hi

Thanks for the reply I just wanted peace of mind the slide show would be ok to use.

During the slideshow custom has sharpness at 50 so should I knock this down to 20 while doing the 100 hour slide show then?

Don't change any settings except for the ones D-Nice says to. Just follow the instructions in the first post..
Using the settings that D-Nice specifies for the first 100 hours of nothing but slides could be a problem it it's going to be mixed with other sources that might have fixed images. As I understand it, sasker is not using the slides as preparation for using D-Nice's settings because there aren't any for his set.

In sasker's case, since he has a European GT60B, any normal settings will be fine. I don't think he should be using D-Nice's conditioning settings.
post #1232 of 3317
Hi htwaits

Your right I am only wanting to break the tv in so I can calibrate it myself.

Someone on the uk AVForum has posted settings similar to what d-link has done but their again its after the set has been run in.

I simply don't want leave this running all in one go and I do intend to watch normal sky HD and maybe a film tonight but I'll carry on running the slides after it.

Just gonna keep my sharpness down to 0 and contrast around 50 for the first month or so.
post #1233 of 3317
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Using the settings that D-Nice specifies for the first 100 hours of nothing but slides could be a problem it it's going to be mixed with other sources that might have fixed images. As I understand it, sasker is not using the slides as preparation for using D-Nice's settings because there aren't any for his set.

In sasker's case, since he has a European GT60B, any normal settings will be fine. I don't think he should be using D-Nice's conditioning settings.

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Originally Posted by sasker View Post

Hi htwaits

Your right I am only wanting to break the tv in so I can calibrate it myself.

Someone on the uk AVForum has posted settings similar to what d-link has done but their again its after the set has been run in.

I simply don't want leave this running all in one go and I do intend to watch normal sky HD and maybe a film tonight but I'll carry on running the slides after it.

Just gonna keep my sharpness down to 0 and contrast around 50 for the first month or so.

Oh ok, now I get it, 10-4
post #1234 of 3317
I am assuming that after following D-Nice ST60 calibration that there would be no need to use any Blu-ray disc Video Calibration disc like the IMS Digital Video Essential along with the blue filter to set the color.

Anyone care to comment on this? I just got my ST60 and I want to get the best picture possible from it.

Also! Once the calibration is done in the Custom mode as recommended. In order to get the same picture results on each input for like for Cable or Satellite HDTV and Blu ray, should the same setting be adapted each separate input?
Edited by 8ohms - 7/6/13 at 5:27pm
post #1235 of 3317
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Originally Posted by 8ohms View Post

I am assuming that after following D-Nice ST60 calibration that there would be no need to use any Blu-ray disc Video Calibration disc like the IMS Digital Video Essential along with the blue filter to set the color.

Anyone care to comment on this? I just got my ST60 and I want to get the best picture possible from it.

Also! Once the calibration is done in the Custom mode as recommended. In order to get the same picture results on each input for like for Cable or Satellite HDTV and Blu ray, should the same setting be adapted each separate input?
It sounds like you mean after having D-Nice calibrate your set. wink.gif

I think that you mean after entering the settings that D-Nice has posted for the ST60 sets. If so, according to D-Nice, that's just a good starting point because each individual set is different, You can use something like the WoW disk to improve your picture quality.

D-Nice's settings are for Custom mode. They are not intended for other modes. In general, you don't calibrate to input devices. You may calibrate for different viewing conditions like day and night. You might use D-Nice's settings in Custom mode, and then adjust contrast and brightness for daytime viewing, and then put those values back to the ones you like best at night viewing. There are others in this thread much more qualified to help you adjust your set than I am, so I'll stop. wink.gif

It will take a lot of work and learning on your part to get the "best picture possible" from your new set unless you have it professionally calibrated by someone with outstanding references. On the other hand, you should be able to get picture quality that pleases you. That may be more important. smile.gif
post #1236 of 3317
Any one notice people faces look too red / sun tanned on the vt65/60. On my 55" VT 65B my panel seems to have lost it's depth that I saw on my old GT50. Do you guys think it's just down to settings, I'm using the THX modes because I can't really afford a calibration after I spent £2000 on this TV. :/
post #1237 of 3317
That's interesting, as the ZT60 tends to do the opposite (green faces) in THX. Until you can afford a calibration, try some recommending settings.
post #1238 of 3317
Hi anyone w experience on phosphor trailing?? Im at about 110 hrs on a 65 inch s64 ...like the pq except this trailing that is very distracting and may lead to a goodbye to plasma for me ...if i cant fix it ...is this something thatll go away?? Will it changd if i swapped panels?? Thoughts welcome??
post #1239 of 3317
I doubt very much htwaits that you're any less qualified to answer my question with almost 23,000 since 202. I am sure you have some knowledge.

Yes, I am talking about using one of the Blu ray video disk test patters test patters with the color bars, and filter, to adjust the TV AFTER calibrating the TV using D-Nice recommended settings on the ST60. I just got my 60ST60 and I intend to follow D-Nice calibration number to adjust my TV even though I have not used the patters he also provided to apply for 100 hours. And maybe CNET and HDGURU. And if it looks good then I will keep it and apply the Custom value changes to the input connecting the Blu ray and the input for my Comcast HDTV box.

So from what I understand, It's ok even after calibration the TV using D-Nice setting to use the test bars, color adjustment video disc like Digital Video Essential. smile.gif
post #1240 of 3317
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Originally Posted by 8ohms View Post

So from what I understand, It's ok even after calibration the TV using D-Nice setting to use the test bars, color adjustment video disc like Digital Video Essential. smile.gif

Exactly, always good to use one of those disc to improve 'calibration' (plugged in settings) for your own display and viewing environment.
post #1241 of 3317
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Originally Posted by 8ohms View Post

I doubt very much htwaits that you're any less qualified to answer my question with almost 23,000 since 202. I am sure you have some knowledge.

Yes, I am talking about using one of the Blu ray video disk test patters test patters with the color bars, and filter, to adjust the TV AFTER calibrating the TV using D-Nice recommended settings on the ST60. I just got my 60ST60 and I intend to follow D-Nice calibration number to adjust my TV even though I have not used the patters he also provided to apply for 100 hours. And maybe CNET and HDGURU. And if it looks good then I will keep it and apply the Custom value changes to the input connecting the Blu ray and the input for my Comcast HDTV box.

So from what I understand, It's ok even after calibration the TV using D-Nice setting to use the test bars, color adjustment video disc like Digital Video Essential. smile.gif
It won't hurt, but I don't think you will change anything after checking D-Nices settings against one of those disk. That is unless you tweak the lower/higher w/b settings, then you would need to adjust the brightness/contrast settings too.
post #1242 of 3317
Considering what the S in AVS stands for, it might be good to clarify:

Calibrating involves measuring. If you're not measuring, you're not calibrating. And there's nothing wrong with not calibrating, but the term really should be used correctly.
post #1243 of 3317
Can anyone recommend settings for the 55" VT 65B. The Sun tanned faces are really starting to bother me biggrin.gif. I notice the panel has tow fans that blow out warm air. I'm using the word warm but it can blow out some pretty hot air after a few hours off viewing, the noise of the fans are barely noticeable, They are really quite and you have to be very close to the TV to here them.

The sound of the TV is the best sound I have heard from a flat screen ever. This has the same sound quality as an entry to medium sound bar, the bass on this TV is good. I have only had the TV for a few hours so I will report back after I have had a look at the picture smile.gif
post #1244 of 3317
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Originally Posted by james11223 View Post

Can anyone recommend settings for the 55" VT 65B. The Sun tanned faces are really starting to bother me biggrin.gif. I notice the panel has tow fans that blow out warm air. I'm using the word warm but it can blow out some pretty hot air after a few hours off viewing, the noise of the fans are barely noticeable, They are really quite and you have to be very close to the TV to here them.

The sound of the TV is the best sound I have heard from a flat screen ever. This has the same sound quality as an entry to medium sound bar, the bass on this TV is good. I have only had the TV for a few hours so I will report back after I have had a look at the picture smile.gif

If you post what picture settings you are currently using, someone can point out what changes you can make to improve the picture.
post #1245 of 3317
THX Cinema, Default Settings. Tried messing around with custom as well, but still not really that good.
post #1246 of 3317
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Originally Posted by 8ohms View Post


So from what I understand, It's ok even after calibration the TV using D-Nice setting to use the test bars, color adjustment video disc like Digital Video Essential. smile.gif
Yes it's OK to make adjustments using any of the good disks available. It's probably better to avoid using the word calibration when you apply settings from a set that was calibrated. smile.gif

It's true. I can't help you with how to do picture adjustments or calibration. eek.gif
post #1247 of 3317
That is VERY helpful information. Thank-you for posting it.
post #1248 of 3317
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

To begin, here is a spelled out guide for setup if you want to know exactly which buttons to press when doing the initial setup.

1) Put the batteries in your remote and hit the red 'Power' button.
This will take you through a couple of initial setup steps. Skip everything you can, as you can revisit this in the menu after you have done the prep.
2) Turn the pixel orbiter off: Menu-->Setup-->Anti image retention-->Auto
3) Plug your USB stick (or SD card) with the photos on it into the side of the TV.
4) Press 'VIERA TOOLS' -> Media-Player -> Photos
This will show thumbnails of all the pictures on your USB stick.
5) Now press 'MENU' on your remote.
Choose 'Picture' -> 'Custom' default settings.
This will apply the settings to the photos in your slideshow.
When done press the 'RETURN' button on your remote.
6) Now press the red rectangular button under the 'R' on your remote.
7) Set the 'Slideshow Settings' from post #1 of this thread.
8) Choose the top menu item here and press it to 'Start Slideshow'
9) Wait 100 hours. smile.gif

That is very helpful information. Thank-you for a well described post
post #1249 of 3317
Any difference between using a USB vs. SD Card in regards to break-in? I'll be leaving it running unattended 8-9 hours a day. I'm kind of nervous about that.
post #1250 of 3317
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Originally Posted by Stevetd View Post

Any difference between using a USB vs. SD Card in regards to break-in? I'll be leaving it running unattended 8-9 hours a day. I'm kind of nervous about that.
I left one unattended for over 500 hrs strait with no break , completely fine
post #1251 of 3317
We need to add a poll, Cnet vs. D-nice vs. Cadett settings. I've used them all for several weeks at a time, and I continue to go back to D-nice settings. I also followed the slides, which might impact why his settings look better than others on my set.

It would be interesting to see the results/preferences. I'm also curious how many of you just repeat D-nice (or whichever) settings for 3D, or if you do something different (other than add motion smoother).
post #1252 of 3317
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Originally Posted by tuffluck View Post

We need to add a poll, Cnet vs. D-nice vs. Cadett settings. I've used them all for several weeks at a time, and I continue to go back to D-nice settings. I also followed the slides, which might impact why his settings look better than others on my set.

It would be interesting to see the results/preferences. I'm also curious how many of you just repeat D-nice (or whichever) settings for 3D, or if you do something different (other than add motion smoother).

After switching back and forth between CNET's settings and D-Nice's settings for the first month or so, I finally plugged in Cadett's (revised/re-calibrated) settings and I've used his settings ever since. Going strong now for well over a month, with no desire to fiddle with settings anymore... thank god biggrin.gif It's actually been really nice sitting back and enjoying my TV, as opposed to constantly messing with settings every time I turned my TV on.
post #1253 of 3317
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Originally Posted by JonThomasDesigns View Post

I left one unattended for over 500 hrs strait with no break , completely fine

Wow. I did mine in about 10 hours per day. Was too afraid to leave it on longer lol.
post #1254 of 3317
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Originally Posted by tuffluck View Post

We need to add a poll, Cnet vs. D-nice vs. Cadett settings. I've used them all for several weeks at a time, and I continue to go back to D-nice settings. I also followed the slides, which might impact why his settings look better than others on my set.

It would be interesting to see the results/preferences. I'm also curious how many of you just repeat D-nice (or whichever) settings for 3D, or if you do something different (other than add motion smoother).
Problem with this is, one set of settings could work better on your set, but could be worse on another set. All 3 settings were calibrated to D65 with meters ranging from good to great but notice how different they are.
post #1255 of 3317
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Originally Posted by rahzel View Post

Problem with this is, one set of settings could work better on your set, but could be worse on another set. All 3 settings were calibrated to D65 with meters ranging from good to great but notice how different they are.
+1
The only reason I published my settings were to give a range. It's good to see what others are getting. Just a sanity check. Never know if your meter is off etc. However I don't or haven't seen too many published settings. D-Nice, CNet, Michael Chen, & mine are the only settings I know of.
post #1256 of 3317
I racked up about 150 hours among the D-Nice break-in, CNET's, and the Plasma HDTV Burn-In Clip available from youtube. I came to prefer the HDTV Burn-In, but whatever, the results were fine.
post #1257 of 3317
Hometheatre.com has a review and settings for 2D and 3D on their website.I've tried the 2D settings but not the 3D.Check them out.Just another option.
post #1258 of 3317
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Originally Posted by ez1dog View Post

Hometheatre.com has a review and settings for 2D and 3D on their website.I've tried the 2D settings but not the 3D.Check them out.Just another option.

http://www.hometheater.com/content/panasonic-viera-tc-p60st60-3d-plasma-hdtv-settings
post #1259 of 3317
Here are some interesting articles on the dangers of copying TV settings off the internet. Basically, unless your TV starts off very similar to the TV from the calibrated settings, you're either getting results that are no better or actually worse. In the 50 TVs they tested, only 4% had better PQ than just straight "cinema" mode after inputting random settings. And these were Pioneer Elite Plasmas.

http://www.tlvexp.ca/2013/05/i-know-what-love-is-i-mean-what-good-is/
http://www.tlvexp.ca/2012/12/the-fruits-of-copying-settings-the-pioneer-lottery/

If you look at and compare the various lists of settings, they are pretty drastically different, in terms of changing color and gamma balance.
Short of getting a pro out to calibrate your set, I think you're probably going to be better off calibrating just brightness/contrast and the basic settings on your own and leaving the TV in the best kind of Cinema mode...

My 2 cents...
post #1260 of 3317
Garbage in, garbage out. Depends on where you are getting your settings biggrin.gif
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