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post #2701 of 3315
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Originally Posted by uptown1999 View Post

Hello. Just had a new 65 inch ZT60 delivered yesterday and am starting the DNice slides this morning. However, I have noticed that there appear to be 16 total slides in the sideshow--12 are the color slides and then four have a tag on them that says "Cannot Read File." I just want to make sure that running those four slides will not have a negative effect or cause IR? I can't seem to find a way to skip over those four and I can't delete them from the USB card either. Any suggestions or thoughts?

Let me guess, you're using a MAC. There are special instructions on how to copy the slides with a Mac but it seems overly complicated and I don't know where the info is right now. I would copy them to the USB with a Windows machine. I would definitely NOT run the slides with the 4 blank files.

This explains it a little bit...
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1337252/slide-images-from-mac-to-sd-card-issues#post_20484382
post #2702 of 3315
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Originally Posted by uptown1999 View Post

Hello. Just had a new 65 inch ZT60 delivered yesterday and am starting the DNice slides this morning. However, I have noticed that there appear to be 16 total slides in the sideshow--12 are the color slides and then four have a tag on them that says "Cannot Read File." I just want to make sure that running those four slides will not have a negative effect or cause IR? I can't seem to find a way to skip over those four and I can't delete them from the USB card either. Any suggestions or thoughts?

Here is the fix...
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1466472/2013-panasonic-settings-issues-thread/1200#post_23493817

If you are on a Windows machine. Reformat your USB drive as FAT32 and recopy the files to it. Otherwise... i am out of ideas.
post #2703 of 3315

Thanks everyone for the quick responses. I am on a Mac and the fix posted worked like a charm. Thanks for the help!

post #2704 of 3315

is there any way to get prevent these station logo things or stupid banner ads in the corners of the screen from showing up or at least turning down their intensity????  they are such an annoying distraction.

post #2705 of 3315
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Originally Posted by tommybb View Post

is there any way to get prevent these station logo things or stupid banner ads in the corners of the screen from showing up or at least turning down their intensity????  they are such an annoying distraction.



Try zooming them out, I know it's not optimal but if your plasma is in the break in period it helps a lot.
post #2706 of 3315
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Originally Posted by tommybb View Post

is there any way to get prevent these station logo things or stupid banner ads in the corners of the screen from showing up or at least turning down their intensity????  they are such an annoying distraction.

The way I've found to eleminate them is to use the zoom function.
post #2707 of 3315
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

I already told you what your problem is with the green tint, don't forget you have a ST60 not a VT60.

As you found out your ST60 is performing with-in specs as I said before you had the video board replaced.

The biggest problem you have is a lack of controls on your ST60. Saying Chad's 1211 performed with-in its specs, you would need to get a external processor like eecolor and a pro calibrator that has the meters/software to do a 21^3 LUT calibration.

There is no Green tint issue with the VT60.

ss


Not sure what your point is never mentioned the vt60 and this not a dedicated vt60 thread
post #2708 of 3315
If I enter the exact same settings into Cinema, Custom, Pro 1, and Pro 2, would the resultant picture be identical as measured / seen in all of these picture modes, or is there something about Cinema, that would make it look different from Custom, or from Pro 1, or from Pro 2? If there is a difference, then entering CNET's settings into Custom (or Pro 1 or Pro 2) would look different from entering it into Cinema. If there is a difference, does anyone know what the difference is? Like is Cinema always darker, or Custom always muted??

(I figure there is probably something inherently different about the other 5 modes [Vivid, Standard, Home Theater, THX Cinema, THX Bright Room] because they have settings grayed out so they can't be changed).

(ps - I have a VT60, but the answer is probably the same for a ZT60).
post #2709 of 3315
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Originally Posted by tommybb View Post

is there any way to get prevent these station logo things or stupid banner ads in the corners of the screen from showing up or at least turning down their intensity????  they are such an annoying distraction.
Nope. Very few stations ever pull them off screen. Of the channels I watch Showtime is the only one I've noticed that only has it show occasionally.
post #2710 of 3315
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Not sure what your point is never mentioned the vt60 and this not a dedicated vt60 thread

I saw that after I posted, decided to leave it that way to clarify.

My point is not to scare folks into thinking there is a green tint problem.

You keep posting about Chad not being able to calibrate your ST60 properly for the last month or so in this thread and other threads. You are not the first person to have issues with a pro calibration.
I gave you three suggestion on why and how to fix your issue, so I am not sure why you keep posting about your issue.

ss.
post #2711 of 3315
ss, first of all I will post what I like . I am not trying to scare anyone I mentioned because some one else has the issue I have that's it , he mentioned he was considering a pro calibration I gave my experience that's all
I post a lot but only mention my issue when it is pertinent . You are the only one trying to blame chad not me !

Fact is some st60s have a green skin tone issue I have never insinuated the vt or zt were affected . Overall I like my set it just exhibits the issue from time to time .
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post #2712 of 3315
First off I am not blaming Chad he is a good guy. I suggested there may have been a sync issue with his 1211 and your ST60. I also suggested you ask him to come back and try again when he is in your town at no cost to you.
I also suggested getting a external processor and maybe a more complete type of CMS calibration.
Yes even with a VT60 and its more control settings, it still can have a greenish tint to some of the flesh tones. I know I have seen it when doing a standard 6 point CMS calibration on my VT60.

I know you are going to post whatever but sometimes folks believe what they read, and that is exactly why I posted what I did. See link so you can understand why I posted.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1466472/2013-panasonic-settings-issues-thread/2670#post_24188259

ss
post #2713 of 3315
Bottom line I'm not misleading anyone. I have an issue that can't be rectified with the internal tv controls obviously it is not common but it is not just me. If someone wants to take what I post out if context that's not my problem
post #2714 of 3315
What model are you discussing? A ST or an S ?
post #2715 of 3315
I have a 55st
post #2716 of 3315
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Originally Posted by sillysally

First off I am not blaming Chad he is a good guy.

Thanks.

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I suggested there may have been a sync issue with his 1211 and your ST60.

That was not the case.

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I also suggested you ask him to come back and try again when he is in your town at no cost to you.

I did, and I will do it again if asked by Chunon.
post #2717 of 3315
Good to see things don't change with new tvs. Years go by and silly sally is still "silly" without a clue.

Best thing all of you can do is not listen to anything this guy says.
post #2718 of 3315
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Originally Posted by Chad B View Post

Thanks.
That was not the case.
I did, and I will do it again if asked by Chunon.

Hey Chad do I have enough points yet to get a free touch up? Lol
post #2719 of 3315
Aah, I need to start my own "calibration rewards" program. tongue.gif
post #2720 of 3315
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Originally Posted by Chad B View Post

Aah, I need to start my own "calibration rewards" program. tongue.gif

Sign me up!!!!!!!! I have just over 1000 hours since the last time you were here.
post #2721 of 3315
Just for the record, I see absolutely no sign or hint of greenish skin tone issues from Chad's calibration on my VT60. In fact, the calibration looks absolutely stunning and skin tones look remarkably natural. I think there is something going on with the ST60 or at least perhaps on some of them within certain scenarios.
post #2722 of 3315
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

Just for the record, I see absolutely no sign or hint of greenish skin tone issues from Chad's calibration on my VT60. In fact, the calibration looks absolutely stunning and skin tones look remarkably natural. I think there is something going on with the ST60 or at least perhaps on some of them within certain scenarios.



I have the 60ST60 and using S&V's settings my colors are accurate and no hint of greenish skin tones. I never thought much of using someone else's settings but I must have gotten lucky and I'm in no hurry to get a calibration.
post #2723 of 3315
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post


I have the 60ST60 and using S&V's settings my colors are accurate and no hint of greenish skin tones. I never thought much of using someone else's settings but I must have gotten lucky and I'm in no hurry to get a calibration.

Like others here, I am very particular and sensitive to how images look.  Having been in printing and color management for many years, I know what a challenge it is to consistently reproduce images correctly.  Chunon says 'exhibits the issue from time to time.'  If we agree to rule out that his vision is not consistent over time, then we are left with 2 possibilities:

1.  Tv has intermittent problem, causing it to display high green.

2.  Source material is not neutral (= too green.)

 

Color management relies on the use of standard test images to evaluate the performance of different parts of the system; monitors, proofing, or actual printed materials.  The PDI test Image is the gold standard for checking performance....  gray scale images, Gretag Color Checker, neutral areas, very deep shadows, and 4 different skin types.  Whenever I have some issue, I always compare using this image.

 

http://www.imagescience.com.au/kb/questions/94/PDI+Printer+Test+Image   Download and copy to SD card to view on the TV!

 

I have looked at carefully on my, pretty new 60ST60, and skin tones are wonderful, which is why I bought this TV.  I live in Mexico, so do not have a pro calibration, and started with DNice settings.  Dark grey scale in the 20% range looked a little green, so I tweaked up in WB controls.  Now looks very neutral from 0 to 256 output.  I have a couple of suggestions....

 

1.  Get to know the PDI image, if you have a good computer monitor, check the grey scales...  The Gretag Color Checker greys are perfectly neutral, the border of the Heidelberg is slightly rose, and the Kodaks are very slightly green.

2.  Compare under correct viewing conditions on your TV.  The image should compare favorable to your monitor.

3.  If there is a problem on the TV, first check ur test image, does it look normal or not correct.

 

This allows you to quickly determine if is the TV or the source material.  If is the source, then end of story, if is the TV, then time to check ur settings!  If the PDI image looks significantly different than before then there is an intermittent problem or change to the settings.

 

Reagrds  JAS

post #2724 of 3315
Just to set the record straight. I am in no way displeased with the calibration I received from Chad on my ST60. He did his usual exceptional through professional job. Any remaining issue I have is not due to calibration but a flaw in my particular set. I don't believe it is a common issue but there are a few others that have experienced it. Again Chad went above and beyond my expectations in trying to resolve my issue thru calibration. He spent close to 7 hours on my set on the follow-up visit. Also that visit was prompted by a request to Chad and was not on the advice of any other forum member. I will be using Chad's services again in the future.
Edited by chunon - 1/13/14 at 4:51am
post #2725 of 3315
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Originally Posted by jasrun2 View Post

Like others here, I am very particular and sensitive to how images look.  Having been in printing and color management for many years, I know what a challenge it is to consistently reproduce images correctly.  Chunon says 'exhibits the issue from time to time.'  If we agree to rule out that his vision is not consistent over time, then we are left with 2 possibilities:
1.  Tv has intermittent problem, causing it to display high green.
2.  Source material is not neutral (= too green.)

Color management relies on the use of standard test images to evaluate the performance of different parts of the system; monitors, proofing, or actual printed materials.  The PDI test Image is the gold standard for checking performance....  gray scale images, Gretag Color Checker, neutral areas, very deep shadows, and 4 different skin types.  Whenever I have some issue, I always compare using this image.

http://www.imagescience.com.au/kb/questions/94/PDI+Printer+Test+Image   Download and copy to SD card to view on the TV!

I have looked at carefully on my, pretty new 60ST60, and skin tones are wonderful, which is why I bought this TV.  I live in Mexico, so do not have a pro calibration, and started with DNice settings.  Dark grey scale in the 20% range looked a little green, so I tweaked up in WB controls.  Now looks very neutral from 0 to 256 output.  I have a couple of suggestions....

1.  Get to know the PDI image, if you have a good computer monitor, check the grey scales...  The Gretag Color Checker greys are perfectly neutral, the border of the Heidelberg is slightly rose, and the Kodaks are very slightly green.
2.  Compare under correct viewing conditions on your TV.  The image should compare favorable to your monitor.
3.  If there is a problem on the TV, first check ur test image, does it look normal or not correct.

This allows you to quickly determine if is the TV or the source material.  If is the source, then end of story, if is the TV, then time to check ur settings!  If the PDI image looks significantly different than before then there is an intermittent problem or change to the settings.

Reagrds  JAS



Hi, I don't know what or how other people see of course but when I hear intermittent it makes me think it possibly could be the source. Cable or satellite channels can vary greatly as far as skin tones, but using a good Blu-ray Disc as a reference is a lot more accurate. I don't have your background in color management and printing but I can't help but notice how sharp and rich everything looks on my ST60, just an amazing panel, especially at it's price point.
post #2726 of 3315
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Originally Posted by jasrun2 View Post

Like others here, I am very particular and sensitive to how images look.  Having been in printing and color management for many years, I know what a challenge it is to consistently reproduce images correctly.  Chunon says 'exhibits the issue from time to time.'  If we agree to rule out that his vision is not consistent over time, then we are left with 2 possibilities:
1.  Tv has intermittent problem, causing it to display high green.
2.  Source material is not neutral (= too green.)

Color management relies on the use of standard test images to evaluate the performance of different parts of the system; monitors, proofing, or actual printed materials.  The PDI test Image is the gold standard for checking performance....  gray scale images, Gretag Color Checker, neutral areas, very deep shadows, and 4 different skin types.  Whenever I have some issue, I always compare using this image.

http://www.imagescience.com.au/kb/questions/94/PDI+Printer+Test+Image   Download and copy to SD card to view on the TV!

I have looked at carefully on my, pretty new 60ST60, and skin tones are wonderful, which is why I bought this TV.  I live in Mexico, so do not have a pro calibration, and started with DNice settings.  Dark grey scale in the 20% range looked a little green, so I tweaked up in WB controls.  Now looks very neutral from 0 to 256 output.  I have a couple of suggestions....

1.  Get to know the PDI image, if you have a good computer monitor, check the grey scales...  The Gretag Color Checker greys are perfectly neutral, the border of the Heidelberg is slightly rose, and the Kodaks are very slightly green.
2.  Compare under correct viewing conditions on your TV.  The image should compare favorable to your monitor.
3.  If there is a problem on the TV, first check ur test image, does it look normal or not correct.

This allows you to quickly determine if is the TV or the source material.  If is the source, then end of story, if is the TV, then time to check ur settings!  If the PDI image looks significantly different than before then there is an intermittent problem or change to the settings.

Reagrds  JAS

The set has been professionally calibrated and shows the behavior with both bluray and cable. No offense but if it was a settings issue it would have been corrected in a 7 hour calibration session. The fact your particular set doesn't show the problem proves nothing. I know a bit about calibration both from the diy side and as a customer on one of the better calibrators in the country.
post #2727 of 3315
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

ss, first of all I will post what I like . I am not trying to scare anyone I mentioned because some one else has the issue I have that's it , he mentioned he was considering a pro calibration I gave my experience that's all
I post a lot but only mention my issue when it is pertinent . You are the only one trying to blame chad not me !

Fact is some st60s have a green skin tone issue I have never insinuated the vt or zt were affected . Overall I like my set it just exhibits the issue from time to time .

That seems to indicate that the problem is content, not calibration.


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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Good to see things don't change with new tvs. Years go by and silly sally is still "silly" without a clue.

Best thing all of you can do is not listen to anything this guy says.

Strongly disagree.
post #2728 of 3315
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Hi, I don't know what or how other people see of course but when I hear intermittent it makes me think it possibly could be the source. Cable or satellite channels can vary greatly as far as skin tones, but using a good Blu-ray Disc as a reference is a lot more accurate. I don't have your background in color management and printing but I can't help but notice how sharp and rich everything looks on my ST60, just an amazing panel, especially at it's price point.

It is not the source occurs on bluray as well. I am pointing out a flaw not attacking the set as being a bad one. In fact I feel it is a great one with some minor flaws.
post #2729 of 3315
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Originally Posted by buzzard767 View Post

That seems to indicate that the problem is content, not calibration.
Strongly disagree.

Where did I ever say it was a calibration issue, Buzz please read what I said.
post #2730 of 3315
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

It is not the source occurs on bluray as well. I am pointing out a flaw not attacking the set as being a bad one. In fact I feel it is a great one with some minor flaws.



Ok I gotcha chunon and I wasn't attacking you or your observations just so you know wink.gif in fact you've been quite helpful to me and other plasma beginners on the ST60 thread and I appreciate it.
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