Originally Posted by a|F
I came to this forum to learn how to properly build an AT screen and I'm looking for the best PROVEN material. I don't want to spray anything. And I'd like to find black felt cheap. Seems like a helpful post to me.
I don't understand the following statement:
"on this Forum we do not advocate or support the use of Mfg Screen materials, unless they are acquired to spray a true DIY Coating onto".
I guess our definitions of DIY differ? It appears you're looking to quiet down and control those who don't agree with your specific point of view, which is unhelpful to those of us looking for a wide range of opinions and experience to learn from.
It has nothing to do with "definitions" because one cannot define stated rules as being anything else other than "as stated" . And those rules clearly state what I have repeated....besides the obvious DIY standards that are supposed to be observed, direct links to Merchants of Mfg Screen materials....even Mfg Screens, are also forbidden if such an entity does not sponsor on AVS as an advertiser. As a long time member, I'm fully aware of such "Rules". Member a|F
can be easily excused because of his "newness" and therein receive an explanation. Laserfan
...not so much.
I don't try to quiet down or control anyone....I simply state the rules when the need arises, rules of which that a few repeatedly flaunt, while others inadvertently do so with the best of intentions. The "issue" lies with the fact that if nothing at all is even mentioned, the situation gets wholly out of hand. If by virtue of my own almost daily presence I deem it necessary to remind a poster when such a misdirected posting occurs, I do so in a polite manner. If the Poster is an flagrant repeat offender, the Mods get the call. If doing so makes me a lightning rod for a few, some of which really don't even post on this Forum unless they see such an opportunity to make disparaging comments, then I accept that yoke. Meanwhile, dedicated DIY'ers who are more than willing to accept the rules...their limitations...and who ask for guidance and help, continue to receive such. And there are very, very few dissatisfied DIY'ers posting about having any lack of excellent results so following DIY Screen making rules doesn't seem to be all that bad a route to go down.
Forum was / is intended for those who want to easily buy their way into a Mfg Screen (...or materials...) ready to use. I suppose that some might say that if they have to assemble it, that constitutes DIY.
On this Forum, the rules are meant to cover the primary surface that is used as a reflective medium. No Mfg Screen materials are permitted.
No one is denied help. Some do not get the answer they seek, or receive their advice via PM when discussing such rund counter to the DIY rules
Black Out Cloth....Scrim...Spandex...Bed Sheets, Drywall, Plastic, anything not specifically labeled as and sold as "Screen Material" is fair game. It's a easy "definition" to make and understand, but there are always those who either cannot accept or refuse to accept that premise. And the there are those who jump at the chance to be snippy, sarcastic, or downright abusive. None of which are either helpful, proper, and sometimes direct violations of stated rules themselves.
Finally, much of the opposition comes from those who frequent other Forums on AVS whose posters are not under the same limitations (ie: scrutiny) as DIY'ers. A LOT of abuse and crappy discourse goes unreported on many Threads elsewhere simply because...in a sense, no one wants to bother. Shame that....it encourages some to carry that kind of behavior over to whatever Thread they visit.
For the record, I both know and have spoken to Carl....he knows who I am and what the DIY Screen Forum stands for and advocates. He also knows of the repeated referrals I have sent his way "Off Forum", just as he appreciates that the burgeoning drive into DIY Screen making that AVS's DIY Screen Forum creates will always make some determine to hedge and locate his Site and make purchases. Be absolutely assured, his exposure on EBay and Amazon constitutes the vast bulk of his business, and he has no desire to be considered as being a "Outlaw Advertiser" on AVS's DIY Screen Forum because of any one person-s drive to suggest that his Mfg Screen materials should be considered above those used for DIY'ing screens as are advocated and defined by the Rules.
Originally Posted by Laserfan
You don't understand--this is MM's forum (it just hasn't been titled that way; apparently he's not been able to convince the mods to do so).
The rest of us stay out.
A prime example of an individual who has gone out of his way to prove every point I make about abusive and bating posts. And that coming from someone who himself opted to use Gatorfoam Board...not a Mfg Screen material for his personal Screen. Can such an effort be construed as being anything but simply an effort to be insulting? I think not.