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Looks like Carl's Place is having a sale.

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
FYI
Looks like a decent sale on screen material if anyone is interested. Ends on the 6th though.
If you’re not familiar with his site it’s at www.carlofet.com.
Edited by avs-newbie - 4/4/13 at 7:20am
post #2 of 15
Pretty much everyone knows of CP's, but on this Forum we do not advocate or support the use of Mfg Screen materials, unless they are acquired to spray a true DIY Coating onto.
post #3 of 15
I don't see anything wrong with getting some black felt tape for your DIY screen.

Nice heads up OP.

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post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

I don't see anything wrong with getting some black felt tape for your DIY screen.

Nice heads up OP.

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No one has ever claimed that purchasing Felt Tape was an issue, so why go down that road when the OP's post was specifically referring to "Screen material? I know why. Lately a very few individuals seem determined to start up the old habit of responding to posted comments in confrontational or nonsensical ways with the sole intent to incite adverse responses.

Give it a break...the Forum has been a very congenial place for quite awhile since those who would continually disrupt it have gone (...or been been forced...) elsewhere, and it does not need or want disaffected Posters who get their encouragement from other sources and the prevailing attitudes that exist elsewhere. Take such comments back to where they belong...please.
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

Pretty much everyone knows of CP's, but on this Forum we do not advocate or support the use of Mfg Screen materials, unless they are acquired to spray a true DIY Coating onto.

I came to this forum to learn how to properly build an AT screen and I'm looking for the best PROVEN material. I don't want to spray anything. And I'd like to find black felt cheap. Seems like a helpful post to me.

I don't understand the following statement:

"on this Forum we do not advocate or support the use of Mfg Screen materials, unless they are acquired to spray a true DIY Coating onto".

I guess our definitions of DIY differ? It appears you're looking to quiet down and control those who don't agree with your specific point of view, which is unhelpful to those of us looking for a wide range of opinions and experience to learn from.
post #6 of 15
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Carl's Place offers a variety of raw materials
for the do-it-yourself (DIY) projector screen builder!

I guess a "real" screen DIYer would use one of these:



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post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by a|F View Post

I came to this forum to learn how to properly build an AT screen and I'm looking for the best PROVEN material. I don't want to spray anything. And I'd like to find black felt cheap. Seems like a helpful post to me.

I don't understand the following statement:

"on this Forum we do not advocate or support the use of Mfg Screen materials, unless they are acquired to spray a true DIY Coating onto".

I guess our definitions of DIY differ? It appears you're looking to quiet down and control those who don't agree with your specific point of view, which is unhelpful to those of us looking for a wide range of opinions and experience to learn from.
You don't understand--this is MM's forum (it just hasn't been titled that way; apparently he's not been able to convince the mods to do so).

The rest of us stay out. rolleyes.gif
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by a|F View Post

I came to this forum to learn how to properly build an AT screen and I'm looking for the best PROVEN material. I don't want to spray anything. And I'd like to find black felt cheap. Seems like a helpful post to me.

I don't understand the following statement:

"on this Forum we do not advocate or support the use of Mfg Screen materials, unless they are acquired to spray a true DIY Coating onto".

I guess our definitions of DIY differ? It appears you're looking to quiet down and control those who don't agree with your specific point of view, which is unhelpful to those of us looking for a wide range of opinions and experience to learn from.

It has nothing to do with "definitions" because one cannot define stated rules as being anything else other than "as stated" . And those rules clearly state what I have repeated....besides the obvious DIY standards that are supposed to be observed, direct links to Merchants of Mfg Screen materials....even Mfg Screens, are also forbidden if such an entity does not sponsor on AVS as an advertiser. As a long time member, I'm fully aware of such "Rules". Member a|F can be easily excused because of his "newness" and therein receive an explanation. Laserfan...not so much.

I don't try to quiet down or control anyone....I simply state the rules when the need arises, rules of which that a few repeatedly flaunt, while others inadvertently do so with the best of intentions. The "issue" lies with the fact that if nothing at all is even mentioned, the situation gets wholly out of hand. If by virtue of my own almost daily presence I deem it necessary to remind a poster when such a misdirected posting occurs, I do so in a polite manner. If the Poster is an flagrant repeat offender, the Mods get the call. If doing so makes me a lightning rod for a few, some of which really don't even post on this Forum unless they see such an opportunity to make disparaging comments, then I accept that yoke. Meanwhile, dedicated DIY'ers who are more than willing to accept the rules...their limitations...and who ask for guidance and help, continue to receive such. And there are very, very few dissatisfied DIY'ers posting about having any lack of excellent results so following DIY Screen making rules doesn't seem to be all that bad a route to go down.

The Screens Forum was / is intended for those who want to easily buy their way into a Mfg Screen (...or materials...) ready to use. I suppose that some might say that if they have to assemble it, that constitutes DIY. rolleyes.gif On this Forum, the rules are meant to cover the primary surface that is used as a reflective medium. No Mfg Screen materials are permitted.

No one is denied help. Some do not get the answer they seek, or receive their advice via PM when discussing such rund counter to the DIY rules

Black Out Cloth....Scrim...Spandex...Bed Sheets, Drywall, Plastic, anything not specifically labeled as and sold as "Screen Material" is fair game. It's a easy "definition" to make and understand, but there are always those who either cannot accept or refuse to accept that premise. And the there are those who jump at the chance to be snippy, sarcastic, or downright abusive. None of which are either helpful, proper, and sometimes direct violations of stated rules themselves.

Finally, much of the opposition comes from those who frequent other Forums on AVS whose posters are not under the same limitations (ie: scrutiny) as DIY'ers. A LOT of abuse and crappy discourse goes unreported on many Threads elsewhere simply because...in a sense, no one wants to bother. Shame that....it encourages some to carry that kind of behavior over to whatever Thread they visit.

For the record, I both know and have spoken to Carl....he knows who I am and what the DIY Screen Forum stands for and advocates. He also knows of the repeated referrals I have sent his way "Off Forum", just as he appreciates that the burgeoning drive into DIY Screen making that AVS's DIY Screen Forum creates will always make some determine to hedge and locate his Site and make purchases. Be absolutely assured, his exposure on EBay and Amazon constitutes the vast bulk of his business, and he has no desire to be considered as being a "Outlaw Advertiser" on AVS's DIY Screen Forum because of any one person-s drive to suggest that his Mfg Screen materials should be considered above those used for DIY'ing screens as are advocated and defined by the Rules.
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Originally Posted by Laserfan View Post

You don't understand--this is MM's forum (it just hasn't been titled that way; apparently he's not been able to convince the mods to do so).

The rest of us stay out. rolleyes.gif
A prime example of an individual who has gone out of his way to prove every point I make about abusive and bating posts. And that coming from someone who himself opted to use Gatorfoam Board...not a Mfg Screen material for his personal Screen. Can such an effort be construed as being anything but simply an effort to be insulting? I think not.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by a|F View Post

I came to this forum to learn how to properly build an AT screen and I'm looking for the best PROVEN material. I don't want to spray anything. And I'd like to find black felt cheap. Seems like a helpful post to me.

I don't understand the following statement:

"on this Forum we do not advocate or support the use of Mfg Screen materials, unless they are acquired to spray a true DIY Coating onto".

I guess our definitions of DIY differ? It appears you're looking to quiet down and control those who don't agree with your specific point of view, which is unhelpful to those of us looking for a wide range of opinions and experience to learn from.

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Originally Posted by Laserfan View Post

You don't understand--this is MM's forum (it just hasn't been titled that way; apparently he's not been able to convince the mods to do so).

The rest of us stay out. rolleyes.gif



Careful boys, posts like that can get you banned.

I have used Carlofet in the past to get black felt for my first ever laminate DIY screen.

My definition of DIY screen is that as long as I buy the raw materials (whether it is paint, spandex, Seymour XD Stage, ebay sreen material, Carlofet, etc, etc) and build the screen myself. It is a DIY SCREEN.

As some members have suggested and requested that a sticky should be put up under this DIY Screen forum to clearly define what is DIY and what is not in order to better monitor this forum. I have yet to see such sticky.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post



As some members have suggested and requested that a sticky should be put up under this DIY Screen forum to clearly define what is DIY and what is not in order to better monitor this forum. I have yet to see such sticky.

It was there...for several years, and only was "trimmed" when the Forum's Formatting was altered. But since then, specific posts by Moderators have referenced those Rules, and other Members have either copied them or stated them verbatim when "asked" as to if they actually exist. Now don't even say you don't know the rules exist....you should be simply backing up the Rules, not try to generate controversy by stating what YOUR version of DIY Screen making is. Honestly...if it was "up there" again in plain sight, would you switch to being a true DIY advocate? A speckled Egg doesn't suddenly go "white".

Far more effort is expended by just a few individuals to prevent others from dispensing advice and maintaining the ideal the DIY Screen Forum is based upon than is ever made by those same individuals to actually help people "on this Forum".

No...everything has always been pretty transparent. There are those who will always attempt to do whatever they want if they can. Like children, they seem oblivious as to the transparency (...and consequences...) of their actions...they feel don't have to abide by Rules or observe decorum...no, they can get away with it because no one knows their motives or sees their intentions. Certainly not the Forum Owners / Moderators.

Wrong. It's all just a case of "been there...seen that...corrected the issue. Basically, it amounts to just waiting for them to hang themselves with their own ropes. It's happened before..... That is a close to a attempt to try to let some know the current state of affairs as I'm going to go.
post #11 of 15
What make forums like these great, is that there are many opinions and perspectives.

However, It seems that only a certain set of opinions/rules are allowed within here.

It would have a been a great service to all if a sticky is created to clearly define rules in this corner of AVS, since this is an area where things are a bit shady.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by smokarz View Post

What make forums like these great, is that there are many opinions and perspectives.

However, It seems that only a certain set of opinions/rules are allowed within here.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1467002/home-theater-and-screen-on-the-cheap#post_23182772
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It would have a been a great service to all if a sticky is created to clearly define rules in this corner of AVS, since this is an area where things are a bit shady.

I repeat: Honestly...if it was "up there" again in plain sight, would you switch to being a true DIY advocate? I await your response..
post #13 of 15
What is a true DIY? Someone that sprays SF and Mudd?

Then I am NOT!
post #14 of 15
To be...or not to be. A true DIYer, that is.

I believe at some point in time, the DIY screen section was a hive of men (maybe women) that had a different DIY spirit than exists now. How long has it been since someone tried to "create" a new paint formula, or source a new material? (Props to the guy from South Africa, I'd never seen a screen hung with a flat panel mount)

I believe this is where MM comes from. When more people pitched in and it was more of a community. What we have now seems barely more than a pitstop on "I need a screen now, dont really care about what it looks like. Tell me what to do" road. Honestly...I don't know how MM cares to stick around and provide assistance other than a true love of helping and that long lost DIY spirit.

What I do know for certain, is that there are few people willing to offer up the time/energy he does without being paid. Whether he is the "god" of the forum doesn't bother me, nor should it bother you because you have an option to read his posts/visit this forum.

Something else I know for certain, is that I am happy this forum is here. I know there are countless others in the same boat.

And for that...we thank you.
post #15 of 15
i challenge your brother's statement... that you can't get blacks like that on your projector!
don't try me! mad.gifbiggrin.gif
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