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post #211 of 670
Just purchased and installed 47LA6200
Gotta say its AWESOME right out of the box with just going through the initial setup.
Will post more after tweaking and playing around a little
post #212 of 670
I just got the 47" 5700 model of this tv. I think the only difference is that it doesn't have 3D. This is my first direct lit tv, my previous is a Toshiba Regza which had pretty good black levels, at least to my eyes. I used SMP's settings to set up this new tv and used the Disney WOW disc to check for dead pixels. I'm assuming on the black portion of the test that it turns off all backlighting? It looked ok then so maybe I just need to change some settings. I know with my old tv there was light in the corners but on this new one, there is some noticeable light in the bottom right corner. Like a big glob. It's not as much on the rest of the screen. I got this at Walmart so I'd have a longer return period to test it out and not sure if I should return it. I watch tv in a dark room at night and would like to do some more testing tonight after it gets dark. Can anyone give me some suggestions for things to try to see if the display is normal? I don't know if any of my blurays are especially good at evaluating a display.
post #213 of 670
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Originally Posted by chele519 View Post

I just got the 47" 5700 model of this tv. I think the only difference is that it doesn't have 3D. This is my first direct lit tv, my previous is a Toshiba Regza which had pretty good black levels, at least to my eyes. I used SMP's settings to set up this new tv and used the Disney WOW disc to check for dead pixels. I'm assuming on the black portion of the test that it turns off all backlighting? It looked ok then so maybe I just need to change some settings. I know with my old tv there was light in the corners but on this new one, there is some noticeable light in the bottom right corner. Like a big glob. It's not as much on the rest of the screen. I got this at Walmart so I'd have a longer return period to test it out and not sure if I should return it. I watch tv in a dark room at night and would like to do some more testing tonight after it gets dark. Can anyone give me some suggestions for things to try to see if the display is normal? I don't know if any of my blurays are especially good at evaluating a display.


i just replace mu 6250 yesterday for another new one, the olda one has a lot of vertical banding, the new one has less vertical banding, and BOTH have the same "light" on the bottom right corner.


So, i think the entire la6200 series has this two issues,

little vertical banding

white bottom right corner.
post #214 of 670
Thought I would show some examples of of my issues.

First the stuck/dead pixel that even the Disney wow pixel flipper couldn't fix.


Next is the bezel separation
This is basically my camera super close to the screen looking down. You can see the bulbs.

and the other side


And here is the clouding problems with even just a slight off angle making the issue massive.

post #215 of 670
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Originally Posted by HeRoMoN View Post

i just replace mu 6250 yesterday for another new one, the olda one has a lot of vertical banding, the new one has less vertical banding, and BOTH have the same "light" on the bottom right corner.


So, i think the entire la6200 series has this two issues,

little vertical banding

white bottom right corner.

That sucks. I don't think mine has much banding. Using the WOW evaluation tools it did not look bad. Unfortunately the motion quality is horrible. I watched part of The Following that I had watched last week on my old tv thru hulu on apple tv. It looked so much better. Both are hooked up hardwired so it's not that. I don't know if it would be better with the tru motion turned on or if it is the internet quality. With the tru motion on, I didn't like the picture for normal tv viewing so I'm not sure what to do. My old tv was a 60hz so it's not like I'm comparing to a 240.
post #216 of 670
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Originally Posted by garnettrules21 View Post

Thought I would show some examples of of my issues.



Next is the bezel separation
This is basically my camera super close to the screen looking down. You can see the bulbs.

This is a direct lit set, so I don't believe those are bulbs..they are not that close to the screen. My set had one of those and I blew it out with compressed air...it was a small piece of Styrofoam packing material.
post #217 of 670
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Originally Posted by smp0887 View Post


SMP, I see you have tru motion set to user but I don't see your actual settings. Can you post them please? I need help with my picture quality.
Thanks
post #218 of 670
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Originally Posted by GatorJZ View Post

This is a direct lit set, so I don't believe those are bulbs..they are not that close to the screen. My set had one of those and I blew it out with compressed air...it was a small piece of Styrofoam packing material.
No they are bulbs/LEDs. They light up when the tv is on and when the tv is off you can't see them. They are no doubt the LEDs. The LEDs go all the way to the edge.
post #219 of 670
On both TV the LEDS on the right side were visibly but not on the left side.


On my first TV, the vertical banding was more noticeable on the CENTER OF THE SCREEN and the right side


On the second (actual), the banding is only noticeable on the RIGHT BOTTOM SIDE.


Thank god no one had light bleed issues

so... as i say

I THINK that the entire series have two issues.


The image quality is still pretty good, but the TV is NOT PERFECT.


For GAMING is outstanding, for movies and multimedia is pretty god.






I will give to this TV an...

80/100 for LIGHT uniformity.

90/100 for gaming.

90/100 for smart features.

90/100 for 3D.

90/100 for picture quality.



an overall score of: 88/100 (not average)



the ONLY TWO THING why the TV is not perfect are:

a Bit of light bleed and vertical banding.



My 2008 samsung, do not had vertical banding, but i had a LOT OF GHOSTING, specially during dark scenes. until the day it died.


my friend had a 2012 samsung with a LOT of clouding, ended up selling the tv.



So... i guess there is not a perfect tv.
post #220 of 670
I have my motion set to 5
post #221 of 670
I have to say I'm very impressed with this 47LA6200.
I find the picture quality to be absolutely great.
And that is just with my tinkering of settings, no calibration disk yet. I have not found a problem with the coloring, whites and blacks are very good and the the all around crispness is very good. I used all of smp's settings but turned color down to 50, his 65 was a little red in my opinion.
I don't really like 120hz tv's, the couple I have tried kinda made me nauseous when it is on, but this one hasn't yet, I guess being able to adjust it to just before it is too soap opera looking is why. Even with the setting off the picture does not have much blur at all on fast moving scenes that I've been able to notice.

Also, this is my first 3DTV and in the 24 hrs I've had it I can say I'm glad I decided to get 3D. I have only watched a couple things in native 3d, a couple of things from Netflix and it was awesome, can't wait to get a 3d bluray to watch more. But I'm really surprised by the 2d to 3d conversion I love the depth it adds to regular TV and bluray. But I had to adjust it for each thing I watched, even just a channel change. It would ghost from one channel to the next but a little adjustment and the ghosting was gone. 2d to 3d even works pretty good on my Xbox.
And speaking of Xbox I have not noticed any lag or syncing issues even when not in game mode.
All in all a great TV, especially for the price.
post #222 of 670
Does anyone know if this is a true 120hz panel, or just an upscaled 60hz version, marketed as Trumotion 120hz, like some other LG models??? Thanks!
post #223 of 670
Believe it's 60hz upscaled. That is how all tv's work now. Even top tier if I'm not mistaken. The reason being is our electrical system is only 60hz and it doesn't upscale so the TV has to do it. If not mistaken 240hz tv is still 60 upscaled.
post #224 of 670
Read this it helped me understand somewhat.
http://m.cnet.com/news/what-is-refresh-rate/57524894
post #225 of 670
It seems my picture quality issue is due to the "smart tv" apps. I've read in reviews for all tvs that you shouldn't buy them for the smart tv feature, I guess this is why. I watched the same scene on hulu plus through the tv app and thru my apple tv and the apple tv had much better picture quality and no motion issues. The picture just looks so fake using the app. Originally watching tv looked the same but I adjusted the settings. It's almost like the settings did not affect the apps. Has anyone experienced this? I watched the Matrix last night on blu ray to see if there were any issues with motion but it looked terrific. Luckily I have almost all the apps available on either my apple tv or blu ray player, except for Crackle, so I don't have to rely on the apps but I thought it would be the same as the apple tv.
post #226 of 670
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Originally Posted by brodie301 View Post

Read this it helped me understand somewhat.
http://m.cnet.com/news/what-is-refresh-rate/57524894
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Originally Posted by brodie301 View Post

Believe it's 60hz upscaled. That is how all tv's work now. Even top tier if I'm not mistaken. The reason being is our electrical system is only 60hz and it doesn't upscale so the TV has to do it. If not mistaken 240hz tv is still 60 upscaled.


Very interesting. Thanks for that link!

For someone with this TV, will the TruMotion be good enough for sports (football and basketball). That's my main concern. Also, does it give the "soap opera effect?" I guess I am in the minority in that I actually kind of like the soap opera effect. Lol
post #227 of 670
Yeah it is pretty good. I watched the Knicks game last night and it was great but it was pretty good without
post #228 of 670
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Originally Posted by DtheDude81 View Post


Very interesting. Thanks for that link!

For someone with this TV, will the TruMotion be good enough for sports (football and basketball). That's my main concern. Also, does it give the "soap opera effect?" I guess I am in the minority in that I actually kind of like the soap opera effect. Lol

Haven't watched a football game, but the SOE is very pronounced until you start turning things off in the menu. (I don't care for the effect.)

Has anyone noticed a still relatively pronounced soap opera effect when streaming Netflix even with all the "enhancers" disabled? Any way to get rid of it? Movies through my FiOS box are fine, but Netflix is anther matter.
post #229 of 670
You have to disable the enhancements for each input AND each app separately it is rather annoying. While in Netflix press the my app/q.menu button and set video will give you the settings.
post #230 of 670
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Originally Posted by phage80 View Post

You have to disable the enhancements for each input AND each app separately it is rather annoying. While in Netflix press the my app/q.menu button and set video will give you the settings.

Thank you!!!!! That was driving me crazy. I was actually thinking about returning the set over this issue, but the in all other respects I really like it. Good to go now.
post #231 of 670
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Originally Posted by Qix84 View Post

Hi, i bought this tv two weeks ago, its a great tv. But i want to connect my ps3, and my Cable HD to the tv and passthrought the DTS / AC3 sound to my receiver.

If i watch a movie via USB the tv passthrought the sound and my receiver shows DTS or Dolby, but via PS3 or Cable HD box the receiver show PCM 2.0.

Any help pls ?

PD: My receiver only have 1 optical in, not have hdmi.

Settings ➙ SOUND ➙ Sound Out ➙ External
Speaker(Optical/HDMI ARC) ➙ Digital Sound Out
Sets up Digital Sound Output.
post #232 of 670
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Originally Posted by phage80 View Post

You have to disable the enhancements for each input AND each app separately it is rather annoying. While in Netflix press the my app/q.menu button and set video will give you the settings.
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Originally Posted by phage80 View Post

You have to disable the enhancements for each input AND each app separately it is rather annoying. While in Netflix press the my app/q.menu button and set video will give you the settings.

That makes sense now. I had changed settings but Hulu plus still didn't look right but looked great thru Apple TV. It didn't look like my changes affected the apps but i couldn't figure out why, thought they just didn't work as well. I'll have to try this out tomorrow.

This solution does not seem to work for the 5700 model, at least not with Hulu plus or Vudu.
Edited by chele519 - 5/20/13 at 4:48am
post #233 of 670
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Originally Posted by GatorJZ View Post

This is a direct lit set, so I don't believe those are bulbs..they are not that close to the screen. My set had one of those and I blew it out with compressed air...it was a small piece of Styrofoam packing material.

Are we sure this is a direct lit set? I've seen it being reported that this is an edge lit set which is really disappointing. I need to take pictures of my set but like others I have the light bleeding/flashlighting/clouding issues that have been reported here. I'm seriously considering sending it back to amazon but don't know if I want to go through the hassle of shipping it back and getting another one that may be just as bad or worse. *sigh* I guess the plus is my banding isn't as bad, although it's still there, and I don't have any dead pixels.
post #234 of 670
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Originally Posted by malrock View Post

Are we sure this is a direct lit set? I've seen it being reported that this is an edge lit set which is really disappointing. I need to take pictures of my set but like others I have the light bleeding/flashlighting/clouding issues that have been reported here. I'm seriously considering sending it back to amazon but don't know if I want to go through the hassle of shipping it back and getting another one that may be just as bad or worse. *sigh* I guess the plus is my banding isn't as bad, although it's still there, and I don't have any dead pixels.

It is most definitely direct lit. Look at the thickness of the set and compare it to an edge lit one. You should not be seeing any flashlighting, that is not a problem with direct lit sets.

If you need to return it, Amazon is great. You get a pre paid UPS label (for defective units). If you call their TV customer service, they will generally ship the replacement with one-day shipping.
Edited by GatorJZ - 5/20/13 at 10:08am
post #235 of 670
Anyone using the remote app for iPhone?
Just wondering cause can only get the coax signal to beam to phone screen
post #236 of 670
I got my 60LA6200 from Amazon a couple weeks ago and I wanted to chime in with my findings:

The Good

+ Set has good color.
+ Nice adjustment options
+ Plenty bright
+ On the right content, picture can be fantastic
+ Game/PC lag seems low. I don't notice any in Game mode when I move my mouse.
+ PC desktop and text looks great
+ Screen is more evenly lit than the 5 edge-lit LG and Panasonic LCDs I tried previously.
+ Picture and motion processing seems good.
+ Passive 3D is the only 3D worth having for me and I've tried both.

The Bad

- Black levels - They aren't great. But not terrible either. The edge-lit LG's I had tried before had local dimming so I knew this set would be worse and it is. Watching a dark movie like Harry Potter can be disappointing if it is a really dark scene. Keeping the backlight at 30 or less at night helps a lot.

- Screen tilts forward. When I put the base on my unit I could not get the top two screws to "bite" so I could screw them in. It's like they were too short to reach the holes. So my set is hanging on those two top pegs and screwed in with the bottom two screws. I don't know if this is responsible for the tilt or not but logically it could be responsible. But like I said, we couldn't get those screws to go in and tighten. This is not a huge deal

- Set has some minor light leakage or clouding in the lower left side. I realize this shouldn't happen on a rear-lit set and it is more diffuse than the edge-lit version but there it is. It's not nearly as bad as some of the others posted here, though. I can live with it and "massaging" this corner of the screen did help.

- The actual corners are slightly darker than the rest of the screen but this is better than the reverse on edge-lits.

- Banding: There is a slightly darker vertical band along the left-hand side about 3 inches wide. I'm not sure if this is really banding or some artifact of the way the set is lit. There are two smaller horizontal bands across the top. One about 3 inches down and another 2 more inches below that. Mercifully, these are thin and far enough away from the center of the screen that they aren't too bad. I can live with it.

The Ugly

- Dirty Screen Effect (DSE) - Sadly, it's pretty awful on this set. Any kind of panning shot across a light color (Fog, blue sky, close up of skin, light grass, etc.) will reveal that the entire screen is evenly peppered with little smudgy areas. I'm amazed at how even the uneveness is, if you follow me. Random looking, but randomly everywhere. There are even a few small areas about the size of the diameter of a pencil that are slightly brighter. What makes this worse is that you can play something like Skyrim and the screen will look absolutely beautiful for hours, and you'll be happy with the set. Then it decides to get foggy in the game and like a punch to the gut you're suddenly aware that in these circumstances the PQ is AWFUL.

Conclusions

- LG couldn't make an even panel if their lives depended on it. This is my 4th LG set in the past year looking for a new TV, so I feel I can judge.

- There is no "great" TV for me at reasonable prices. The quality control now just stinks. I've tried Sonys, Panasonics, etc. I've tried Rear Projection, LEDs, and Plasmas. They all have problems and each set you try will be both better and in some ways worse than the others. Will I return this set to Amazon? I still don't know. Despite the DSE, it IS the best one I've tried, all things considered. I know the perfect set doesn't exist and yet I feel compelled to hunt for it due to the $1500 investment. But every exchange is another roll of the dice and I've ended up with sets that were worse and regretted it. I wish I wasn't so OCD about this crap.
post #237 of 670
Can someone help me?

Which is better, the LG LM6700, LG LA6200 or the Toshiba L6200U?

I been looking for a new TV and moving from my old 40" Samsung LCD display (IIRC is a 2006 model), I wanted to move to a Passive 3D LED TV. While my Samsung LCD didn't have a great image, it had amazing Response Time and since I play fighting games that was hugely appreciated.

After searching I found this set, its $800 for the 47" and $1000 for the 50". This awesome, but then I also saw the 47LM6700 and I was confused on which one is better. I prefer the presentation of the LM6700 than the LA6200. But for what I read the LA6200 has Backlit which is better. I recently learned about this, so I have never payed attention to this about LED TVs.

What bothers me is that in Display Lag the LA6200 is said to have 45ms, which is ok. I assume the LM6700 has about the same lag as the LM7600, so they are below the 40 ms and the Toshiba L6200U has an impressive 24ms.

So I don't know which one to decide. Does someone here has seen the 3 display in action and which one is worth getting?

Thanks in advance!
post #238 of 670
Look a couple pages up. I believe they found lag to be closer to 30ms in game mode on the LA.
I have a 47LA and haven't had any problem with lag playing Bioshock on Xbox or Grimrock on PC.
post #239 of 670
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Originally Posted by brodie301 View Post

Look a couple pages up. I believe they found lag to be closer to 30ms in game mode on the LA.
I have a 47LA and haven't had any problem with lag playing Bioshock on Xbox or Grimrock on PC.

Yeah, I saw that, but they used the Photo method. in Displaylag.com they used another method with a machine, forgot the name for it. But the results are quite different, 15ms of difference. So I dunno how bad that will be. As I mentioned before I play fighting games and those are the ones you can tell the difference quickly. Unfortunately my bestbuy don't have any LA6200 on display for me to ask them and test one. Well I doubt they will allow me to test it, but yeah.

I wanted to know mainly if someone has experienced the input lag between the LG LM6700 and the Toshiba L6200U vs the LG LA6200. Display lag says its almost 20ms of difference, so I don't know how bad that is when I'm playing. I wish there was a way to test using my Laptop, that way I can know how that feels and make a judgement.
post #240 of 670
Heads up: a US eBay seller (no affiliation) now has the English version of the AN-MR400 magic remote for sale.
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