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post #61 of 289
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Originally Posted by darkaura View Post

I bought the Sam's Club model, UN65F7050 and experienced the same thing once. After turning it off and on, the problem went away.

Is this common? a problem or a feature?

May be the ECO sensor or savings is on in the settings.?
post #62 of 289
Hi everyone,

I just got the UN55F7050A from Costco. This was a replacement as I previously had the UN55D7050 (2012 model). After 1.5 years it started showing some vertical lines of pixels (vertical banding). Costco tried to replaced the panel but it arrived damaged so they finally proceeded to allow me to return it (no complaints there with their Customer Service). I finally got the same TV (albeit 2013 model) as I was very happy with it. However...

The image on this one looks grainy, specially noticeable on panning. It looks like film grain or like seeing footage shot with a camcorder on low lightning conditions. Again, it only happens very quickly on panning. A couple of facts:

- this happens on HD footage coming from my STP (which is correctly configured to output 1080p) as well on Blu-ray
- I updated firmware to the latest (1110, August 2013)
- I lowered the "Sharpness" but couldn't see any difference
- I disabled all digital enhancements (noise reduction, Automotion etc)
- I changed HDMI cables
- I finally did a reset to defaults...but still the same problem

Is there anything else I could try?

Thanks.
Craconia
post #63 of 289
I couldnt have said it better- I just bought this TV and love it- I think?? .... I spent hours reading posts here and elsewhere and called samsung twice. I ended up with 'my version' of standard for TV (contrast,backlight all set high. I have 'my version' of movie mode for 3D movies and 'my version' of natural mode for bluray and dvd. Everyone likes dynamic but it is slightly too bright and has a loss of detail right?? so I tweaked standard (which is the mode samsung reccommends). My ONLY real issue is sometimes- maybe mostly at night, the picture gets dark, muddy and slightly fuzzy or blurry. Does anyone know why?? I believe I have all the motion stuff and the filters off for my TV mode (stnd) as well as the energy saver and dynamic contrast (off). Any advice?? Something it seems to make dark scenes darker sometimes- Am I going nuts?? Otherwise TV is sharp, and love the 3D.
Edited by loucaruso - 8/26/13 at 6:42am
post #64 of 289
good point- I just went with this model- love it so far- but yes.. no camera- do I just plug a usb cam in for example and that's it- I understand it has to go in a special skype usb? I suppose the audio will work off the remote- right??
Edited by loucaruso - 9/4/13 at 5:37am
post #65 of 289
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Originally Posted by darkaura View Post

I bought the Sam's Club model, UN65F7050 and experienced the same thing once. After turning it off and on, the problem went away.

Is this common? a problem or a feature?
YES I am having this same issue- just bought the TV- do we know what is going on??
post #66 of 289
One and a half months ago I bought the UN55F7100AFXZA TV from Best Buy. For a few days I tried many picture settings, but nothing worked. The picture was somewhat blurry and grainy even with published settings from the “experts”. I went back to Best Buy and told them of my disappointment with the TV. They told me that it just needed a professional calibration from the Geek Squad. There are apparently settings inside the TV that I can’t get to. I really hate spending another $250 for a calibration. I think that TV’s should come pre-calibrated when you purchase them. Anyway, they said that if I wasn’t happy after the calibration they would give me my money back for the TV and the calibration. After a few days the technician came out to my house and did the calibration. WOW, the picture now pops and is absolutely beautiful. I am very happy with the calibration results. This maybe something you may want to consider for your TV’s.
post #67 of 289
Appreciate the info from Talon 5. I agree that all TV's should be calibrated at the factory BEFORE we buy them. Aren't they supposed to be?? I hope this is not what I will have to do. I didnt buy it at best buy, and if I start to think that I need this, I will try to return it, as I am not spending $250.for a service that should have been done.Doesnt samsung service a calibration as part of the warranty? I am calling Samsung again today or tomorrow and if they can't figure out why my setting looks good most of the time, then all of a sudden goes dark, and gets fuzzy and grainy, I am returning it, if possible. It shouldnt have to be this complicated. I now have the dynamic contrast on med, all filters off, all energy saver settings off, motion off, my backlight and contrast set fairly high, brightness somewhere in the middle range, and the same with sharpness. ANY ADVICE??? Maybe I should have bought the Panasonic TCP60VT60 plasma. Hear nothing but amazing things.
Edited by loucaruso - 8/27/13 at 1:23am
post #68 of 289
Craconia- Did you find anything out yet?? I have a similar problem, and I just bought the TV. I am on standard picture mode for TV viewing, with backlight-between 19 or 20, contrast between 85-95%, brightness 35-45%, sharpness- 20-35% (what do you think??) and color about 50%. I put dynamic contrast on-(on medium) since it looks better on and as far as I know all the filters are off, as well as all the motions and the energy stuff- dont know what is making it go dark and grainy?? I am ready to 'go off' on samsung or return the set but I'm trying to have patience as I am hoping it's a setting that I'm missing. Anyone know if the microdimming can cause this and can it be turned off???, also anyone know where dynamic contrast should be (can this be an issue???) and how do I make sure the 240 hz is set as well as 1080.Something is dimming the picture without an enviornmental change, and making it grainy and muddy. IDEAS??
Edited by loucaruso - 8/28/13 at 5:08am
post #69 of 289
Loucaruso: I still haven't find any solution. I tried tweaking almost everything. Right now I have the defaults plus some minor changes. Mine doesn't go dark. That's pretty strange. I would tell you that's the Eco Sensor Savings kicking in but you already mentioned it is turned off. I suggest opening a support request with Samsung so that someone can come to your home and see it (before finally deciding to return it).

At this point, with my case, I'm not sure if it is something with my particular TV or if it's something with the whole series. I have a couple of scenes on some Blu-ray discs where I can see the problem. I plan to go to Costco with my Blu-ray disc and see if they can play it on one of the TVs there. That way I'll know for sure if it's something with MY particular TV or not.
post #70 of 289
hey- I "think" my problem could be my contrast is up too high on standard mode,causing the blacks to crush and mesh together (muddy look) when the scene goes dark, and making it worse. Also maybe my backlight was too high, making that problem worse,and I may need to bring up the brightness level. I will do all this again today and leave that dynamic contrast off for good.I have been reading a lot on this type of issue (see PsyDoc1- http://reviews.us.samsung.com/7463/un60f7100.....) it seems it may also be the micro dimming- apparently we cant control it-(maybe a future update could solve that). It says "when a good part of the picture is dark,the whole picture goes dark" THIS IS BASICALLY MY PROBLEM, but need to find a way around the micro dimming. ANYONE KNOW??? Good hunting
post #71 of 289
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Originally Posted by loucaruso View Post

hey- I "think" my problem could be my contrast is up too high on standard mode,causing the blacks to crush and mesh together (muddy look) when the scene goes dark, and making it worse. Also maybe my backlight was too high, making that problem worse,and I may need to bring up the brightness level. I will do all this again today and leave that dynamic contrast off for good.I have been reading a lot on this type of issue (see PsyDoc1- http://reviews.us.samsung.com/7463/un60f7100.....) it seems it may also be the micro dimming- apparently we cant control it-(maybe a future update could solve that). It says "when a good part of the picture is dark,the whole picture goes dark" THIS IS BASICALLY MY PROBLEM, but need to find a way around the micro dimming. ANYONE KNOW??? Good hunting

I experienced the same thing today(just got the set. I'm thinking it is annoying as well). It would seem that in attempt to get a darker picture, or blacker blacks, changing settings and such plays into a potential issue with micro dimming. Perhaps brightening the picture would prevent darkness from enveloping the screen in darker scenes. I made some quick adjustments, and, for now it seems to have helped.
post #72 of 289
yeah aeonix01... but I am not trying to get a darker picture or blacker blacks, just a good normal picture not as glowing and over colored as dynamic (something with better details) and then this 'dark scene adjustment' happens- I hate it...and if I make the screen brighter- it will wash out the picture- if that's how I have to watch this set not for the dark scenes to crush ...then I dont want this set. I wrote samsung- no response yet. I really think its our models cheaper version of their micro dimming- if we dont find a way around this, we may have to live with it.. lets hope we can get someone to give us an answer. If you are able to call up the show "breaking bad"- go to the final scene where jesse pinkman is breaking into walts house with the gas can and watch as he goes into the house.. as soon as it gets dark- the TV dips darker (all muddy) quickly- it's scenes like that- this problem HAS to be fixed
Edited by loucaruso - 9/2/13 at 1:51am
post #73 of 289
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Originally Posted by loucaruso View Post

yeah aeonix01... but I am not trying to get darker picture or blacker blacks just a good normal setting not as glowing and over colored as dynamic(something with better details) and this 'dark scene adjustment' happens- I hate it...and if I make the screen brighter-it will wash out the picture- if thats how I would have to watch this set not for the dark scenes to crush ...then I dont want this set. I wrote samsung- no response yet. I really think its our models cheaper version of their micro dimming- if we dont find a way around this, we may have to live with it.. lets hope we can get someone to give us an answer. If you are able to call up the show "breaking bad"- go to the final scene where pinkman is breaking into walts house with the gas can and watch as he goes into the house.. as soon as it gets dark- the TV dips darker (all muddy) quickly- it's scenes like that- this HAS to be fixed

I know the issue you're talking about actually. I was watching Big Bang Theory, and had the same issue in the scenes. I actually think I've played with the settings and got it to stop doing that, however, if you can allow me some time to be sure, I can tell you what I did to see if it works for you as we'll. Unfortunately, I'm not home today to find out, and only got it yesterday.

My other issue is that any setting which clear up judder, or motion, etc, are causing soap opera effect. I've disabled them, and it helps. I have, however, had Auto Motion Plus turn itself on their. Then, once, early this afternoon during a baseball game, the soap opera effect happened with it still set at off. Turning the set off seemed to fix it. Annoying. If this continues, the set will have to go back.
post #74 of 289
Hi everyone,

I'm going to purchase a new set tomorrow and it's between a 55" UN55F7100 or a plasma 51" PN51F8500. Love the picture of the plasma, prefer the bezel and actual set of the LED (which has a sick picture too) - and, yes, since it's going in the living room where my better half will have significant say, looks matter. http://files.avsforum.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

I have to say that I've noticed a lot more qualms, albeit minor ones, on this thread than on the ones for the F8500. Having sorted out the initial problems, would you say you're now happy with your F7100? Also, did anyone here consider getting the plasma? What was the deciding factor?

Thanks!
post #75 of 289
I believe micro dimming is disabled in Movie Mode...correct?
post #76 of 289
is that true- anyone?? what about standard mode?? and does anyone know if the eco sensor/energy star is always on in standard mode??
Edited by loucaruso - 9/3/13 at 1:31am
post #77 of 289
Yes, it's true that the dimming is disabled in movie mode.
post #78 of 289
brainpw- I am getting happier with my LED as I get my settings where I want, and learned that the motion plus must be off unless watching sports or 3D. Shut that thing off normally. Also I didnt listen to so many who said shut off the dynamic contrast and now it is on high and never looked better. NOTE- if you can afford it, I would consider a larger TV. I dont have the largest living room I've seen (it is decent sized) and my 60" fits nice, but it could have been bigger and since I dont make these types purchases often maybe I should have gone with the 65" or even 70". My wife stopped me from going bigger and now even she feels it could have been larger. It's funny how you get used to the size and the wow factor goes away within days. I work in TV Broadcasting and was told by a few different professionals that the panasonic VT series Plasmas were the best plasmas. Anyway I dont hate my new UN60F7100 LED. Yes I have had some frustration over the cheaper version of micro dimming (I would consider spending a bit more and moving up to the pro or ultimate versions of micro dimming) and the associated auto dimming (clamping) on dark scenes- see- http://www.homefuninc.com/local-dimming-vs-micro-dimming-ultimate-vs-micro-dimming-pro-vs-micro-dimming-standard (see what it says at the end). I still hope to rectify that problem soon. Finally yesterday it started coming together. I have my standard mode tweaked the way it seems best, and my 3D bluray is in movie mode and they both look good. I still occasionally see that clamping down in dark scenes, but it doesnt seems as noticeable as before. I am either getting used to it, or something I adjusted made it bearable. It is a clear, crisp, bright TV, and the 3D is amazing.You get alot of features for your money. I see ghosting sometimes in 3D but that seems to be on inexpensive 3d nature type content. I wouldnt say dont buythe LED, but if you thought the plasma was better why not buy that?? I didnt really look at plasma's as I (probably incorrectly) assumed plasma's are 'yesterday' compared to the improved LED's. Maybe I should have explored them. Make sure the 3D is as good on the plasma (dont know how you can compare them,other than researching) and make sure you get alot of the extras like with the LED. Make sure you can return the TV if you have any issues (save the box) and GOOD LUCK.
Edited by loucaruso - 9/4/13 at 5:35am
post #79 of 289
nice Yappadappadu thanks- any word on the standard mode micro dimming or if eco/energy star is always on in standard mode or advice on micro dimming problems, and a work around??
Edited by loucaruso - 9/3/13 at 2:19am
post #80 of 289
Hope to pick the 55F7100 up soon. Just trying to convince myself it's worth $500 more than the Vizio M.
post #81 of 289
oh- trust me- samsung is alot better than vizio- really!! if ur going to watch TV alot (I'm sure you are) go with the sammy-
Edited by loucaruso - 9/4/13 at 1:58am
post #82 of 289
I'm pretty much in the same boat as you Loucaruso. Playing with settings has really helped. I noticed a dramatic difference in color/vivid turning dynamic contrast on high. The auto dimming has stopped crushing my dark scenes as well after tweaking settings. I guess as long as you can get it roughly where you want it without major issues, you're good to go. I'm happy with my Samsung(Sharp) TV.
post #83 of 289
Aeonix01- yeah why does everyone say shut off dynamic contrast when it helps this TV?? ANYONE???The funny thing is I believe they say the opposite- that turning it on high can cause this... who knows??Overall I'm happy I guess- yesterday after a full day of great pictures- things looked slightly pink- tried adjusting the hue- didnt really do it, tried lowering color- wasnt that, tried changing color temp- ended up again on warm 1- (top one too blue) any ideas??- I didnt want to start messing with face color, gammas, etc- also do u know exactly how to adjust to the grey scale?? I know you want to see all the grey bars- but I would have to make the brightness so high to get those top left bars that the picture would be too washed out- I bought the skype cam-have to play with it today- I believe it has to be in special usb slot. Keep me posted if you figure out what setting (if it was other than dynamic contrast) that may have reduced the black clamping issue- thanks
post #84 of 289
hi- does anyone know exactly how to adjust the tv to the greyscale as well as the color chart?? I suppose you want all grey bars to be visable amnd I'm guessing you use the brightness and maybe the contras.If I do so, the TV is too bright- is there a setting you have to shut off- ex: dynamic contrast?? Know anything about a situation I noticed- in a dark scene the TV adjusts down even darker- gets muddy- like a clamping effect-???
post #85 of 289
me2- just wondering as you posted this awhile back- what setting mode did you settle on?? is dynamic contrast on?? and do you ever see a clamping effect in dark scenes?(TV gets darker in a dark scene) ??
post #86 of 289
Settings
-Picture Mode - Standard
Backlight - somewhere between 12-14(14 now)
Contrast - 56
Brightness - 45
Sharpness - 39
Color - 56
Tint - G-50. R-50

Advanced Settings
Dynamic contrast - High
Black Tone - Dark
Flesh Tone - 0

Color Space-Custom
Red - R-44. G-52. B-0
Green R-15 G-52. B-0
Blue. R-0. G-8. B-45
Yellow. R-59 G-53 B-0
Cyan. R-10. G-50 B-51
Magenta R-43 G-7. B-43

White Balance
Offset. R-25. G-26. B-26
Gain. R-16. G-25. B-25

Gamma - 0
Expert Pattern - Off
Motion Lighting - Off

Picture Settings
Color Tone-Standard
Digital Clean View-Off
MPEG Noise Filter - Low
Auto Motion Plus - Off
Cinema Black - Low

System Settings
Energy Save - Off
Eco Sensor - Off
Edited by Aeonix01 - 9/4/13 at 7:12pm
post #87 of 289
looks good aeonix01- THANKS- I have similar settings -except my backlight is up at 18-19 and contrast up like 98, brightness and sharpness about the same, color a little lower, and I didnt touch black tone *** (anyone know about this?- SHOULD I?). THANKS FOR THE COLOR SPACE TIP- I WENT TO CUSTOM AND LOST A BIT OF A PINKISH COLOR I HAD,... My color space is either off or on the lowest setting ****(anyone know about this?), didnt touch the colors,white balance, gammas or motion light ***(anyone know about this? My color tone is standard also, my dig clean and mpeg are both off (SHOULD THEY BE?) Motion Plus is off, dynamic contrast is also high-and I think cinema black is off or on low ****(anyone know about this??) MY PICTURE IS POPPING, CRISP, BRIGHT, GLOSSY NOW-similat toDynamic mode but with more detail than dynamic mode ***** Keep in mind, I hear rumors that even though we see energy save and eco sensor off, that in the stnd mode it is really on- DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THAT IS TRUE?? This TV seems to need alot of adjusting to get it just right and I'm still not sure if that black dipping is still present- I am thinking it happens on VOD (vid on demand- ie: (showtime or amc) - ANY IDEAS THERE?- MAYBE THE COMPRESSION RATE??- not home enough to keep looking, but I will try again -thanks
Edited by loucaruso - 9/6/13 at 2:37am
post #88 of 289
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Originally Posted by shan5 View Post

I just bought this TV yesterday, I don't know if anyone is having issue with too much light on the left corner edges.
I've replaced four LG TVs cause of the same issue, then replaced with Samsung F7100 60inches but seems like it has the same issue.

I can see too much light in the corner specially when watching a movie with some dark scenes.

I tried adjusting the backlit, it helped but I don't wanna watch a movie with backlit 6/7.

Is this me or the TVs ? or have I been too picky?

Please advise.

Thanks

It seems pretty typical with edge lit displays these days. I couldn't take the clouding and other issues with this TV and finally ditched it and picked up a open box elite for a few hundred more and love it!
post #89 of 289
I just realized that this black clamping issue- where the tv adjusts darker in dark scenes- seems to happen on my VOD- like amc, etc- could it be the compression?? any ideas on how to get around that- any adjustments???
post #90 of 289
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Originally Posted by loucaruso View Post

I just realized that this black clamping issue- where the tv adjusts darker in dark scenes- seems to happen on my VOD- like amc, etc- could it be the compression?? any ideas on how to get around that- any adjustments???
I havens had the "clamping issue" since changing my settings
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