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post #151 of 2034
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Originally Posted by ewright27 View Post

Well at 55" the difference was only like $100 when I bought it (F6400 was on sale). It was important to me because:

- Micro Dimming. This alone was worth the $100. It makes blacks, dark scenes, black pillarbox/letterbox bars, etc., look better. It also hides flashlighting or clouding and makes the panel look uniform. I got lucky and don't have any clouding, but there is minor flashlighting in two corners that I can only see if I turn the backlight and/or brightness way up. Also, there is no "blooming" with the Samsung Micro Dimming like there is on the new Vizios. In any case, you can effectively turn it off by turning the brightness up a couple of clicks, so I figured it was nice to have the option. Now that I've used it, I like it and leave it on.

- The CMR rate is 480 vs. 240. Both are native 120Hz panels, so on its own this doesn't really matter...but it doesn't hurt either.

- In 2012, the contrast ratio increased with every step up in model number. Samsung didn't list contrast ratios this year, but just in case...

- 3D and 3D Sound. I don't like Active 3D, so I don't use it much, but my daughter plays with it when she's here since a lot of kid movies have it. Also, the soundbar (HW-F450) and Blu-ray player (BD-F5900) I wanted came with 3D and 3D Sound, so I decided for $100 it was nice to have the option.

- Some of the features on other 2013 Samsung devices, like the HW-F450 soundbar and BD-F5900 Blu-ray player, only work with an F6400 or higher. Since I was buying the soundbar and blu-ray player with the TV, I wanted to make sure everything worked between devices.

- Other 2013 Samsung gimmicks, like SmartTouch Remote, Voice Interaction, Clone View, Sound Share, Bluetooth remote/soundbar, etc. The SmartTouch Remote turned out to be great once I got used to it, but I don't use the rest.

With the exception of Micro Dimming, I didn't really care about most of the above individually, but when I added them all up it appeared to be worth the extra $100.

Thanks for the information! Great help... Quick question... I'm still deciding between the 6300 and the 6400. I just recently returned my new Vizio M Series (problem with PQ, DSE, and blooming. Made the picture too dark) . Since 6400 has Micro-Dimming does it make the picture look too dark and not "pop" as much? Guess you said you can turn it off though and it's not as bad as the Vizio. I love a picture that pops. Also are the viewing angles the same with the 6400 vs 6300?

I also play Xbox 360 and wondering if you notice any input lag?
post #152 of 2034
when i bought UN46F6350 on May 2013, i saw Bluetooth is available in product spec on the Samsung website....

now its not available in website....

can any one confirm it....???

because i'm planning to buy Bluetooth keyboard...

Thanks
post #153 of 2034
I dont think the 63xx supports BT. I see no such option in mine to pair the tv with the keyb. IIRC only the 6400+ supports this.

You can still use a wireless keyboard such as logitech k400.
post #154 of 2034
post #155 of 2034
Hi Guys,

TV noob here. My pops just bought two tvs from costco last month and now he's making me pick one to ship to me.
I'll be using the tv mainly to watch movies from my external hard drive and play my ps3 and eventually the ps4.

He bought the 40" inch 6350 : http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN40F6350AFXZA
and the LG 47" LN5750 : http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-47LN5750-led-tv

any tips on what I should get? I have been trying to get decent reviews for these tvs and I can't find anything.

Also I have been seeing concerns about games lagging on these kinds of tvs, is it really that noticeable? I used to have a LCD tv that can only do 720p and I didn't notice any lag.

Any help I could get I would be really grateful.

*
post #156 of 2034
I thought I would post this here as I read in another thread that the F6350 at Costco was the same as the Samsung UN60F6300. Let me know if you can assist.


We just bought a Samsung 60" LED TV, model UN60F6300, from Amazon. We have had it just under 1 month and can still return it.

It has began flickering, like a bright to dark / strobe effect, and we are worried it is somehow defective. We have switched cables and I found some information on the web about disabling an ECO mode. This seems to have helped. Additionally I contacted Samsung today and they have asked me to run a diagnostic on the TV and send them the results.

This TV cost $1,500 so I don't want to risk keeping a lemon. What are your thoughts?

If any of you out there can let me know about the Samsung brand as well it would be very appreciated. Seems like all of you like the TV and we do too -- just need to know if the flickering can stop or if we got a bad unit.
post #157 of 2034
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Originally Posted by Jsolo View Post

I dont think the 63xx supports BT. I see no such option in mine to pair the tv with the keyb. IIRC only the 6400+ supports this.

You can still use a wireless keyboard such as logitech k400.

thanks man...

i will tell u some thing.... i made some tweaks in service menu of F6350....there u can upgrade the TV settings from F6350 to F6400 are what ever....

and i also enabled

1) 3D mode
2) 3D sound
3) Bluetooth ON

i tested 3D with 3D sound just works fine..... now i want to test the Bluetooth is working or not...

only thing is micro dimming sensor is not available...

Caution : its very dangerous to enter in service menu...
Edited by Sathish Ganapat - 8/2/13 at 2:03pm
post #158 of 2034
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Originally Posted by jamesmagno View Post

Hi Guys,

TV noob here. My pops just bought two tvs from costco last month and now he's making me pick one to ship to me.
I'll be using the tv mainly to watch movies from my external hard drive and play my ps3 and eventually the ps4.

He bought the 40" inch 6350 : http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN40F6350AFXZA
and the LG 47" LN5750 : http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-47LN5750-led-tv

any tips on what I should get? I have been trying to get decent reviews for these tvs and I can't find anything.

Also I have been seeing concerns about games lagging on these kinds of tvs, is it really that noticeable? I used to have a LCD tv that can only do 720p and I didn't notice any lag.

Any help I could get I would be really grateful.

*

If u have Galaxy phones like S3,S4 or Note 2 i'll suggest u to take F6350...u can mirror your phone in the Sammy TV through AllShareCast...

otherwise LN5750 has great Features
post #159 of 2034
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Originally Posted by Sathish Ganapat

i will tell u some thing.... i made some tweaks in service menu of F6350....there u can upgrade the TV settings from F6350 to F6400 are what ever....

and i also enabled

1) 3D mode
2) 3D sound
3) Bluetooth ON

i tested 3D with 3D sound just works fine..... now i want to test the Bluetooth is working or not...

only thing is micro dimming sensor is not available...

Caution : its very dangerous to enter in service menu...

I wonder what would happen if you upgraded the firmware to the latest version (1108) available here:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/UN46F6350AFXZA#content3

Would firmware ver. 1108 remove the ability to enable F6400, w/3D video & 3D audio & Bluetooth?
post #160 of 2034
So how is the input lag for this TV?
post #161 of 2034
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Originally Posted by Sathish Ganapat View Post

thanks man...

i will tell u some thing.... i made some tweaks in service menu of F6350....there u can upgrade the TV settings from F6350 to F6400 are what ever....

and i also enabled

1) 3D mode
2) 3D sound
3) Bluetooth ON

i tested 3D with 3D sound just works fine..... now i want to test the Bluetooth is working or not...

only thing is micro dimming sensor is not available...

Caution : its very dangerous to enter in service menu...

Can you tell us where in the service menu you enabled these features.
post #162 of 2034
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Originally Posted by rusty55 View Post

I wonder what would happen if you upgraded the firmware to the latest version (1108) available here:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/UN46F6350AFXZA#content3

Would firmware ver. 1108 remove the ability to enable F6400, w/3D video & 3D audio & Bluetooth?

yeah its available... i tried this when i was in 1103 up to 1108....

now i changed my main board... ill never enter in to service menu again....
post #163 of 2034
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Originally Posted by Stevies3 View Post

Can you tell us where in the service menu you enabled these features.

sorry i din't note it down.... that's a big blender i made.... eek.gif

if u dare give a try.... and let me know, ill be happy...
post #164 of 2034
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Originally Posted by Broncosojia View Post

So how is the input lag for this TV?

Really need answer to this. Also, what's a good wireless keyboard to buy with this TV?
post #165 of 2034
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Originally Posted by Sathish Ganapat View Post

yeah its available... i tried this when i was in 1103 up to 1108....

now i changed my main board... ill never enter in to service menu again....

Yea, after reading your thread on how you bricked your TV I'd say you've made a wise choice to "never enter in to service menu again":

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1482021/information-needed
post #166 of 2034
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Originally Posted by Broncosojia View Post

Really need answer to this. Also, what's a good wireless keyboard to buy with this TV?


Once again, really need answers.
post #167 of 2034
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Originally Posted by Broncosojia View Post

Once again, really need answers.

Keyboards are useless, until youtube/netflix/amazon prime use samsumgs built in standard virtual keyboard,
I have f557050 it came with a Samsung keyboard trackpad and used it 2 times, since it was so frustrating that keyboard input was no use consistantly in apps and kept unpairing after infrequent use😡
Use a use wireless keyboard, like cheap logitech.

Samsung Keyboard/trackpad ( i don't think it compatible with 6300 tvs)
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs-accessories/VG-KBD2000/ZA
Edited by teqzen - 8/5/13 at 3:59pm
post #168 of 2034
Logitech K400, should work with the 63xx series. It's wireless, but not BT. Can be had for under $30 at target.
post #169 of 2034
Firmware 1110 has been released.
post #170 of 2034
Lots of firmware updates lately, yet the same vague change log.

Anyone who's upgraded notice any differences? Picture quality?
post #171 of 2034
Hi everyone,

I used to be a member here years ago when I bought a gorgeous little Samsung DLP, and forgot my username and password along the way -- so starting up new again with a new AVS account!

Question for anyone who owns this set: How happy are you with the black level when watching films in a moderately darkened room?

What I'm seeing:
I've had the UN55F6350 (TH01 panel) for almost a week now, and have been really disappointed with the black levels in low-key scenes of any film. For reference, I'm using the opening chapter of The Hobbit (BD): the opening titles on black, Bilbo lighting the candle and walking down the hall, and any of the dwarven mine scenes from later in the same chapter. The blacks just look really washed out and have a blue cast to them. I'll call them 85% grey, which really detracts from any sense of depth. When Bilbo lights the candle, it looks muddy and grey. When he walks down the hall, the blacks look a bit better, but they're still flat and lack depth and detail. It's as if the backlight just can't get dim enough.

Viewing Conditions
10 feet from a 55" screen, dead center. One or two dim lamps off to the sides, no reflections. Dark enough that I get nice blacks from my 2-yr-old LG 47LW5600 (only with local dimming ON ... when it's off, the blacks are horrible), but not so dark where a plasma would be the only way to get deep blacks. So I'm not expecting plasma blacks here, but I am expecting a PVA panel to outperform the typical LG IPS panel in black level. And it's just not.

Picture Mode: Movie
Backlight ......................... 8 or less
Contrast ........................... 85
Brightness ....................... 45
Sharpness ...................... 0
Color ................................ 50
Tint ................................... G50/R50
Picture Size .................... Screen Fit

Advanced Settings
Dynamic Contrast .......... Off
Black Tone ...................... Off
Flesh Tone ...................... 0
RGB Only Mode ............. Off
Color Space .................... Auto
White Balance ................ Default (25 across the board)
10pt White Balance ....... Off
Gamma ............................ 0
Expert Pattern ................ Off
Motion Lighting .............. (greyed out)

Picture Options
Color Tone ...................... Warm2
Digital Noise Filter ......... Off
MPEG Noise Filter ......... Off
HDMI Black Level .......... (greyed out since PS3 is sending out "Full" RGB; if I output "Limited" RGB from the PS3, this setting is available and is set to Low)
Film Mode ....................... (greyed out)
Auto Motion Plus ............ Off or Clear

System Menu (I think that's what it's called)
Eco Mode ........................ All Settings Off


The ONLY way I've been able to get blacks that don't look entirely washed out is to switch to Standard mode, match all of my settings above, and turn Motion Lighting ON, which appears to dim the entire backlight during low-key scenes. But it's still not great, and by that point the TV has lost all of its punch by undermining LED's best asset: brightness. Comparatively, my LG provides much more punch with local dimming on, and at least respectable blacks and shadow detail.

I've also noticed some odd interactions between settings when using Motion Lighting. When you change Brightness or Backlight settings, it automatically switches Motion Lighting OFF. That's ok, I expected that. However, when you switch Motion Lighting back on, the light output of the entire picture, and therefore the quality of the blacks, is different depending upon what your last settings were for Brightness and Backlight. It seems impossible to have any kind of baseline to work from when ML is on. I'd actually prefer it be off, but I'm basically trying anything I can to get decent blacks and shadow detail, including working with a Backlight setting of 1.

Am I just asking too much of this TV? For a bit over 1 large, I don't expect blacks like the Panasonic ST60 ... but I do expect blacks better than an LG IPS display.

If anyone has any thoughts, toss them out! Thanks for reading.
Edited by 2k10GT - 8/22/13 at 7:04am
post #172 of 2034
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Originally Posted by iowahawkeye View Post

Firmware 1110 has been released.

Where was it released? Samsung's site only offers ver. 1108 for the UN**F6300 series.
post #173 of 2034
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Originally Posted by rusty55 View Post

Where was it released? Samsung's site only offers ver. 1108 for the UN**F6300 series.
Firmware updates are found in your TV's menu. There's a place to click to check for latest firmware. Remember, your tv is a 6300, and this thread is about the 6350's.
post #174 of 2034
^^ 6350==6300. The 6350 is the costco version of the 6300.
post #175 of 2034
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Originally Posted by iowahawkeye View Post

Remember, your tv is a 6300, and this thread is about the 6350's.

As Jsolo correctly stated, the 6350 and the 6300 are one in the same.
This link is firmware for the UN46F6350:

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/UN46F6350AFXZA#content3
The description clearly states the following:
"This firmware is for TV Model(s): LED F5500/F6300/F6350/F6400/F6800/F7050/F7100/F7150,PDP F5500"

If there is a newer version firmware that is only available through the TV's menu, I think I'd hold off until is appears on Samsung's site.
post #176 of 2034
Thanks for the heads up on the firmware. I checked for updates on the TV last night and 1100 showed up. Still not listed on the site, but I went ahead and installed. Haven't noticed any changes that I can report, unfortunately.
post #177 of 2034
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Originally Posted by rusty55 View Post

As Jsolo correctly stated, the 6350 and the 6300 are one in the same.
This link is firmware for the UN46F6350:

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/UN46F6350AFXZA#content3
The description clearly states the following:
"This firmware is for TV Model(s): LED F5500/F6300/F6350/F6400/F6800/F7050/F7100/F7150,PDP F5500"

If there is a newer version firmware that is only available through the TV's menu, I think I'd hold off until is appears on Samsung's site.
I would follow what new firmware that shows up in the TV's menu before I would follow what's showing on their website. Besides, it's much easier to install through the TV's menu, rather than do all the usb thing with a computer. Only real nice thing about the website is that it shows the size of the file. I'd bet your warranty would better cover a bricked firmware update off the TV's menu, rather than a user downloading the firmware using a computer, then using a usb stick. (Less chance of problems using the direct tv menu method)
post #178 of 2034
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Originally Posted by iowahawkeye View Post

I'd bet your warranty would better cover a bricked firmware update off the TV's menu, rather than a user downloading the firmware using a computer, then using a usb stick. (Less chance of problems using the direct tv menu method)

I'd bet you're 100% wrong. If updating firmware via a USB device was a 'warranty breaker' why would Samsung make updates available on their web site for many years now?

Many of the firmware updates (including 1108) states " - Solves Network Connection Issue with Wireless Router."

Attempting to install a massive 626MB file through a flaky wireless connection that the firmware you're trying to install is suppose to resolve.

What could possibly go wrong? Right?

No thanks, even though I have a wired connection to my TV I'll stick with the tried-n-true old school method for the foreseeable future.
post #179 of 2034
I haven't noticed anything new from the update either.

Does anyone know if you can add memory? I want to download apps, but only have a gig.

I have the Costco 60 inch 6350 and have no picture quality issues for off viewing. Couldn't be happier with this TV.
post #180 of 2034
Wish they would tell us exactly HOW the picture quality is improved.
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