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post #31 of 2060
Also if anyone is curious, here is a link I found in another thread that shows what Samsung TVs are using as their panels:

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/brands-products/Samsung-Parts/Television-Parts?pathTaken=allcat&Category=LCD&sort=modelNumber&dir=desc
post #32 of 2060
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Originally Posted by JC 707 View Post

Hi everyone, just wanted to chim in on my initial thoughts and opinions of this TV. I went with the 6350 from Costco as I don't care for 3D and wanted the 90 day return policy to test out this TV. I first viewed it at BB and it lookes gorgeous and I had them check their stock and all they had was the "HS01" panels which would be a Sharp panel. I passed on these and the next day went to costco. I check 2 different stores and moved around 20 or so boxes on the floor and they were all Sharp panels which left me a little dissapointed.

I then checked the higher end Sammy models out of curiosity and they too were Sharp panels! I finally found some 55" 7000 series sammy tvs that had Samsung panels.

Well I took a chance and bought the 6350 and set it up and overall I'd say it is OK. I still need to play with the settings but I did notice at the initial set up screen where its a very light blue there seems to be lines running across the screen. Does anyone know what causes this? I will most likely be exchanging Tv for another and seeing if its the same thing.

Also can anyone confirm if they have received an actual samsung panel because I'm thinking on these lower end models they will all be Sharp. Im honestly a little dissapointed as the picture on my $979 60" Vizio I bought last year was pretty good compared with this set but I had some bad audio lip synching issues with it and the wife wanted something else. I do need to get these picture settings dialed in first to really see what this TV is capable of.

Sorry for the long post, thanks!

I've had my 65F6300 for about 10 days and am very dissapointed. The "off-angle" viewing is terrible. Even if i'm sitting directly in front of it at ~8 feet back I see screen wash on either side. Havn't bothered with the apps that much because that (should) be all secondary to screen quality. I think too many of these manufacturers are putting too much into the Smart features and neglecting to picture quality. Also my panel code is MS01 and the service menu indicates a AU Optronics code.
post #33 of 2060
My bar is the HWFM55C. TV is the 6350 55". I was originally hooked up with the fiber optic cable, but rewired with the HDMI special cable and ran from the Blu-ray to the bar then to the TV on the back talk port. It works well now. Turn son and off with the TV and volume works on the TV remote. Have to use the bar remote for sound effects and 3D, but no biggie since I leave it on the music 3D setting all the time anyway. Picture on this TV looked a bit washed out until I turned off the energy saving feature and leave it bright. Gorgeous picture now. I don't notice much off angle washout until about 45 degrees and I can view it almost 180 degrees to the side. Much better than my old plasma. Sunlight has little effect on it. I pick up a slight reflection of the room lamps on the screen, but a flip of the switch fixes that. Guide is a pain- have to cycle through 1100 channels to get to channel 1100 in the guide. Can type it in to go there, but then the smart TV goes back to channel 1 when you open it. I just use the cable company's guide and it works well as usual. Happy so far with the TV.
post #34 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Charlie Kocis View Post

I've had my 65F6300 for about 10 days and am very dissapointed. The "off-angle" viewing is terrible. Even if i'm sitting directly in front of it at ~8 feet back I see screen wash on either side. Havn't bothered with the apps that much because that (should) be all secondary to screen quality. I think too many of these manufacturers are putting too much into the Smart features and neglecting to picture quality. Also my panel code is MS01 and the service menu indicates a AU Optronics code.

Putting it up on CL. Only paid $950 so I'll take ~$1300 (retails for 2k) and just get a Vizio LED or Panny Plasma. This whole Samsung Panel Lottery thing is rotten. Called Samsung about EXTREME screen wash issues and basically said for the price they sold it to me I should be happy no matter what. Before purchasing the F6300 I expressed concerns about my rights as a customer buying from them vs. Best Buy/Wal-Mart/Amazon/etc. and was told not to worry.
post #35 of 2060
I don't blame you. I have costcos 90day return policy and will be returning for hopefully a samsung panel or a 6400 series with a samsung panel if they don't make the 6350 series with sammy panels.
post #36 of 2060
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Originally Posted by brfilora13 View Post

Just waiting for this TV to arrive in the mail. Has anyone who owns this TV found some good default settings for the television that they can post?

I certainly dont know enough about the settings to tweak every little detail, but if someone could post some default settings that they had success with it would help a lot.

I don't frequent this site too often, but is this something I might find here? Any help? biggrin.gif

Bueller? Bueller?
post #37 of 2060
I'm curious how you found the AU Optronics code. Was it through those 3 year old threads? I'm sort of put off by those since they're so old and there's some inconsistencies, which gives me concern. For what it's worth, I purchased a UN50F6350AF, and the code indicates that it's a CPT panel (code P). Is there somewhere else I should be looking at for these codes? And is this a dealbreaker? I'm not exactly savvy with this, the picture looks good, but it could be better? Anyway, Hopefully someone on here can help me out.
post #38 of 2060
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Originally Posted by slapbet View Post

I'm curious how you found the AU Optronics code. Was it through those 3 year old threads? I'm sort of put off by those since they're so old and there's some inconsistencies, which gives me concern. For what it's worth, I purchased a UN50F6350AF, and the code indicates that it's a CPT panel (code P). Is there somewhere else I should be looking at for these codes? And is this a dealbreaker? I'm not exactly savvy with this, the picture looks good, but it could be better? Anyway, Hopefully someone on here can help me out.

The "L" indicates a AUO panel according tho this thread over at AVForums:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/1655689-lcd-matrices-differences-what-models-placed-part-2-a-8.html
post #39 of 2060
I'm beginning to think there are no samsung panels in the 60" version of the 6350 series.

If anyone is interested costco has lowered price to 1349 online. In store I paid 1549 so I will be going today to see if warehouse pricing is the same. If not I'll return it and buy online. Tho I'm still waiting to see if the 60" 6400 series have sammy panels.
post #40 of 2060
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Originally Posted by JC 707 View Post

I'm beginning to think there are no samsung panels in the 60" version of the 6350 series.

If anyone is interested costco has lowered price to 1349 online. In store I paid 1549 so I will be going today to see if warehouse pricing is the same. If not I'll return it and buy online. Tho I'm still waiting to see if the 60" 6400 series have sammy panels.

If this Sears Parts website is to believed then no, there are no 60 or 65 inch Samsung panels across the board for 2013.
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/brands-products/Samsung-Parts/Television-Parts
post #41 of 2060
It's seriously bogus that the "big screen" lcd screens are made like sh*t but the little 32 inchers get the good panels.
post #42 of 2060
I went through the Sears Parts Direct site, these are all of the 2013s so far...

32F6300-TS01

40F6300-TS01
40F6400-TS01

46F6300-TS01
46F6400-ST01
46F7100-TD01
46F8000-TS01

50F6300-NH02
50F6400-CD01
50F6400-ND02

55F6300-TH01
55F6400-TS01
55F7100-TD01
55F7500-TS01
55F8000-TS01

60F6300-HS01
60F6400-HD01
60F7100-HH01
60F8000-TS01

65F6300-MS01 [the one I have with HORRIBLE "off-axis" viewing]
post #43 of 2060
The TS01 has bad off-axis viewing as well. Its definitely better than the Chi Mei panels, but its not worth what Samsung charges. The truth is that all PVA/MVA panels seem to suck when it comes to viewing angles. The IPS panels are better, but they're still pretty narrow.

Don't get me wrong, I really like my F6400. But I've been playing the *VA vs. IPS game for years with both TVs and monitors...and it doesn't matter how many years go by or many iterations of this technology are released. From the best Samsung TVs to the best NEC *VA monitors, it doesn't matter. You can't fix it, you can't calibrate it away, and you can't even see it until you get it home into your living room.

So read up on the pros and cons of IPS and *VA, and then pick which features are more important to you. If you like higher contrast and blacker blacks, get a Samsung, watch it from dead-center only, and don't worry about what you can or can't see in the shadows.

I've also come to the conclusion that the only inherent pro of edge-lit LEDs is that they're thinner. My Dad's bulky, dusty, ancient, Walmart floor model Vizio LCD assembled from third-rate junk parts at some Asian sweat-shop has a better viewing angle than my brand new Samsung that cost twice as much. And while the SOE is painful and the panel isn't exactly "uniform", at least I can't see flashlights in all 4 corners and a huge cloudy mess if I dare touch the backlight control. And he didn't have to wonder who really made the panel (because even Vizio doesn't know), orexchange it 20 times to get one he can live with; he just tossed it in the cart, crammed it in his trunk, and drove it home flat hitting every pot-hole and speed-bump along the way...and when he got there, it looked exactly like it did at Walmart. smile.gif
Edited by ewright27 - 6/2/13 at 11:27am
post #44 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Charlie Kocis View Post

I went through the Sears Parts Direct site, these are all of the 2013s so far...

32F6300-TS01

40F6300-TS01
40F6400-TS01

46F6300-TS01
46F6400-ST01
46F7100-TD01
46F8000-TS01

50F6300-NH02
50F6400-CD01
50F6400-ND02

55F6300-TH01
55F6400-TS01
55F7100-TD01
55F7500-TS01
55F8000-TS01

60F6300-HS01
60F6400-HD01
60F7100-HH01
60F8000-TS01

65F6300-MS01 [the one I have with HORRIBLE "off-axis" viewing]

So I guess I have to downgrade in size to 55" to get a sammy panel or just live with what I have since I am not interested in buying the 8000 series. Good news is costco credited me back $200 for the price difference. I have 80 days left on warranty so we'll see!
post #45 of 2060
Guys,
I'm considering buying Sammy UN50F6350A from costco. price looks really aggressive at 950! I also saw the new Sony 50 inch KDL 50R550A around 1099 & the new Panasonic TC-50LE64 50 inch LED smart tv at 900.

Too many choice which way to gooo!

Any Suggestions ?

Cheers.
post #46 of 2060
I'm reading a lot of negative things about terrible viewing angles on the Samsung F series (esp. the 6300/6350 series in this thread).
But are there really any current LED/LCD TVs in the 65"/70" size that are better in that regard?
post #47 of 2060
Maybe im just not as a videophile like everyone else on here but i just got a un60f630, it replaced a sharp 60" 650 and the samsung is insanely better in everyway. I generally sit right in front of the set but i did spend some time checking out the off angle picture and at 90-120 degrees there wasnt that much loss, if any. Im not really sure who would have interest in watching tv at that angle but to each their own. Obviously theres a significant difference between a 6000, 7000 and 8000 series, if youre so unsatisfied then spend more money and go for top of the line.

The only thing that i notice immediately out of the box are the skin tones are a bit orangey which hopefully a little calibration will fix.

(Excuse my grammar, using the ipad)
post #48 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Matt Awesome View Post

Maybe im just not as a videophile like everyone else on here but i just got a un60f630, it replaced a sharp 60" 650 and the samsung is insanely better in everyway. I generally sit right in front of the set but i did spend some time checking out the off angle picture and at 90-120 degrees there wasnt that much loss, if any. Im not really sure who would have interest in watching tv at that angle but to each their own. Obviously theres a significant difference between a 6000, 7000 and 8000 series, if youre so unsatisfied then spend more money and go for top of the line.

The only thing that i notice immediately out of the box are the skin tones are a bit orangey which hopefully a little calibration will fix.

(Excuse my grammar, using the ipad)

Two things:

1) when i was complaining of "off-axis" viewing I stress the " " parts because I sit directly in front of the TV as well. This panel probably only has a 20 degree viewing angle, meaning that you would have to sit ~12.5 ft back (looking at it dead center) to NOT observe any screen wash.

2) when it comes to the 65 inch panels used in Samsung sets they are ALL suspect. All of the panel codes indicate AU Optronics, whether they are Series 6, 7, or 8. It boils down to Samsung outsourcing the 65" production to a substandard company. The higher end may have more other distractions (faster apps, slimmer frame, 3D, Auto Motion Flow 1,000,000), but NONE of that matters if the base picture is terrible.
post #49 of 2060
Can anyone with the F6300 / 6350 tell me if they have access to the following apps

Amazon Instant
Hulu Plus
Vudu

These are not showing up on my 40F6300
post #50 of 2060
I have the 6350 and the vudu, Hulu Plus and Amazon Instant apps are installed.
post #51 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Matt Awesome View Post

The only thing that i notice immediately out of the box are the skin tones are a bit orangey which hopefully a little calibration will fix.

Switching from default "Native" Color Space to "Auto" should fix that. Auto is supposed to be more accurate anyway I think.
post #52 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Frank_K View Post

I'm reading a lot of negative things about terrible viewing angles on the Samsung F series (esp. the 6300/6350 series in this thread).
But are there really any current LED/LCD TVs in the 65"/70" size that are better in that regard?

I've been complaining on here about the *VA viewing angles...but honestly, all 3 IPSes I've owned over the last year have also had narrow angles. Dealing with panels of this size (50"+) its always going to be more noticeable than it is with computer monitors 27" or smaller. I can say that my 55" F6400 (TS01 panel PVA) angle is definitely better than the 50" ES6500 (Cxxx MVA) I had last year.

The thing that irritates me is that the old LCDs have better angles...but you can't buy those anymore unless you're willing to sacrifice almost all the newer features on the LEDs. The LCDs now are entry-level only.

So yes, you're right...if you want a mid- to high-range set today, you're just going to have to deal with narrow angles.
post #53 of 2060
Knoxville05

Thanks for that, I have them working now. Think it may have been an issue with a new cable modem that got installed. Re did the whole setup and all the apps etc. appeared - signed up for a few but not tried any streaming.

Thanks again
post #54 of 2060
I picked up UN60F6300 which is the same as 6350 version. Really looking for some calibration settings. I am confused since watching movies seem more like watching home videos. Not sure why it doesn't seem cinematic on this tv.
post #55 of 2060
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Originally Posted by anujanand View Post

I picked up UN60F6300 which is the same as 6350 version. Really looking for some calibration settings. I am confused since watching movies seem more like watching home videos. Not sure why it doesn't seem cinematic on this tv.

Go to Menu picture adjustments. Under "Picture Options" select "Auto Motion Plus". Change setting to "clear".
post #56 of 2060
I just returned from same and Costco.

Here is the scoop:

46". 6350. TH01 panel
50" " CH01 or NH02 panel
60". " HS01 panel
55". " TH01 panel


So I am a bit disappointed as I wanted the 50 and a Samsung panel.
Seems u have to go larger or smaller, which won't fit my space.

Anyone have an opinion on CH or NH panels? Which is the better?
Edited by philli4093 - 6/9/13 at 5:42pm
post #57 of 2060
I was in Costco today and all of the 46" 6350 models had TS01 panels. The 55" were TH01 for the 6350. Both looked good and are Samsung panels. The 50" were CH panels and not Samsung. But the best deal may have been the Panasonic 55" UT50 for $599, but of course that is a plasma.
post #58 of 2060
I bought the 6350 model from BJs over Memorial Day weekend and am thrilled with the quality of the display. I figured I would use the "standard" picture settings for a while. Last night I finally went through my calibration disk and it was pretty close out of the box. I will try to post numbers later.
post #59 of 2060
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Originally Posted by Knoxville05 View Post



Go to Menu picture adjustments. Under "Picture Options" select "Auto Motion Plus". Change setting to "clear".

Thanks!! This helped.
post #60 of 2060
FWIW the UN50ES6150 I tried had a panel which started with a "C", but I don't recall the rest. It had a terrible vertical viewing angle. If I stood up the picture would get washed out. I noticed this because I made some adjustments on the floor & on the TV stand and the black levels were quite a bit different between the two. I didn't pay too much attention to the horizontal because I sit in front of the set.

I now have a UN46ES6150 with a TS01 panel & it's viewing angles are a lot better, especially the vertical. Of course that's not a big deal because I don't standup to watch TV. The point being there really does appear to be a difference between panels.

The downside is the UN46ES6150 has a got a lot of uneven lighting when looking at gray fields from a test disc. So I'm thinking about getting a UN46F6350 and Costco by me has these with TS01 versions.
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