Originally Posted by hatchback
To get shallow depth of field, you need a fast telephoto lens. The RX100 lens is only f1.8 at the wide end (10mm). It's a slow f4.9 at the telephoto end (36mm). You can get much faster telephoto lenses for MFT, which will give you the shallow DOF you desire on a Super 16mm sensor, such as the Panasonic 25mm f1.4, Voigtlander 25mm f0.95, Olympus 45mm f1.8 and Olympus 75mm f1.8.
Panasonic 25mm f1.4 ............... 500.00
Voigtlander 25mm f0.95 .............1200.00
Olympus 75mm f1.8 ....................900.00
TOTAL (+camera).........................4,300.00 USD(of course you wont buy those 3 lenses, but you will end up spending that much in good accessories for the pocket camera if you want acceptable low light, an acceptable sDOF and a better crop factor or wide angle)
cheap 1.4 prime..............200.00
You guys are thinking like a child that just want his toy, and its willing do do the most absurd stuff to justify it. Thats fanboy stuff. Just admit that the BM is not made for sDOF. Thats acceptable. I have great camcorders that cant do decent sDOF and I still like them.
Even with a fast prime its hard to get a nice bokeh in a m4/3, imagine in a super16. You can get decent bokeh in a m4/3 if your subject is close and the background is far away. but you cant get a nice bokeh in a full body portrait for example. The only way to get sDOF in the super16 will be using old tricks, even with fast primes. Even that way, your bokeh blobs will look different because of the way the BM deals with light - they wont blow out and wont look as creamy as the ones from big sensor cameras.
So, to achieve nice sDOF and decent looking bokehs in the BM you will need:
- to stay really close to your subject and far from the background
- to use REALLY EXPENSIVE lenses
- to use a speedboster
- to post process your bokeh blobs because they will look strange since the camera wont let them blow out.
Yeah... no, thanks. You wont be able to do it easily like in a APS or a full-frame with a 200 bucks 1.4 lens.
And its funny that people are happy about the 1k price tag of the blackmagic and you guys are talking about buying 1.2k lenses lol. If you have that kind of money to spend on a lens, just buy the 2k or 4k camera.
The pocket BM is a camera for enthusiasts and semi-pros. That kind of person dont want to turn the world upside down to get mediocre bokehs. Just use a camera made for that and use the BM for what its made for.
But anyway, I dont think that the BM NEEDS to be a bokeh machine
. It just got to prove that its able to do nice looking all-in-focus images like the big sister. If its able to keep the same amount of details, looks and colors, then its a keeper (to be used with a backup for low light and sDOF)Edited by thedest - 4/10/13 at 12:09pm