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post #181 of 804
Hey guys and gals. I just purchased an F6400 LED for the kids rumpus room. I did have a HTPC running W7 hooked up but see this new telly can read folders, so it should be able to replace the HTPC.
Please bare with me on this. Now. In our lounge we has a Sammy 60inch plasma also using a W7 HTPC (using MyMovies for the folder art and info) and won't be taking that away as it works a treat down there for me.
So, how do I get the F6400 to see the picture art on each movie folder? As my youngest, whilst she can read (sort of) she is used to seeing the movie she wants by the picture and choosing it. But its not happening on the Sammy.
The folder structure now is :
(Y:) Movies \ *movie title* \ *movie title.mkv
Also with that mkv container is the two jpg's for the cover and the MyMovies XML document.

So when I select the Smart Hub button on the TV, I scroll down to find the movies tab, select that, select the drive, then I see two options to select, files or folders. Having the movies in their own folders I select that, and whilst most of the movies come up, NOT all too btw, there is only wording to the folder snd no picture. How do I correct this?
Confused? As I sure as hell am....
post #182 of 804
^^^
I don't use these features at all, so can't say. Maybe someone else can chime in.


On another note, my completely unscientific, not-measured observation is that all the flashlightng is getting better with time, except for the lower left corner which still seems about the same size (2-3") and intensity (not so bad, but noticeable in 2.35:1 black bars.
post #183 of 804
Also have two clouds, bottom middle upper left center...distracting when dark scene's are present.
Backlight on 7
Brightness 42
another thing want to return to best buy since im a preimer silver member...
Just figured that out since they didnt tell me..says on receipt..
I thought i had 15 days now I have 60..kicker is ive returned too many tv's "trying to find the right one" they told me i cant return this one!! Are u ******* kinding me..what am I going to do??? I didnt know there was a limit to the amount of returns you can make.
I just want to exchange for another..
They said their hands are tied and their is absolutely nothing they can do..
If I knew this I would have never bought from them..
Is there anything I can do?
Has this happened ti anyone else?
post #184 of 804
A tech is comimg w a new panel. Swaping it out in home...hopefully it will be better
post #185 of 804
Wow. Is it literally a panel (ie just a part) that will be swapped into the existing chassis? Or a whole new set? Either way let us know how it goes and good luck.
post #186 of 804
Tech on the phone said the only way to fix is to replace whole lcd panel...from the symptoms i've discribed..
post #187 of 804
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Originally Posted by avdoc View Post

Watched first movie with 65" tonight, VERY disappointed. From 9 feet back slight off center side lighting clearly visible on both sides. Also there is severe vertical banding with light backgrounds. I turned backlight down to 7 but even then in dark scenes it was terrible, looked very falsely bright with no shadow detail. I have now gone from Vizio 70" to Panasonic ST60 plasma to this TV but none were even close to what I'd consider acceptable. I am planning to return and just watch my DLP until something acceptable comes along. mad.gif

Update: On box says version MH01, Made in Mexico. Not sure if this is panel type, someone please let me know as I may try another if this is the problem.
I have the same issues
post #188 of 804
I bought a UN46F6400 a couple of weeks ago and I love it. The only complain I have is regarding the TV guide. I have the TV hooked up to a Xfinity cable box and most the HD channels I watch are in the 600s to 700s. Why when I watch a show on any channel and a click on the guide button, the TV guide shows me the channels from channel 1. Why? It would be great if the guide could display the channels around the one I am looking at the moment I pressed the guide button?

Anybody knows if there's a way to fix that?
post #189 of 804
Has anyone compared the 6400 to the 7100?
post #190 of 804
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Originally Posted by islandman44 View Post

Has anyone compared the 6400 to the 7100?

I was not able to compare at the size I was interested in and ultimately purchased (75") as it wasn't out at the time in the 7100 line - and still may not be - but did so at 46". Though the local dimming feature helped darken the black bars on the 7100 with 2.35;1 content, I didn't think the improvement worth the $1000-1500 premium it would cost at 75". I might pay a few hundred $ for it, which I guess is what the difference is at smaller sizes.

EDIT: they are indeed shipping from Amazon at a $1500 premium for the 75". NFW would I pay that for the difference I saw at 46". $500 max and even then I'd have to think about it. I reeeeeeeeally love my 75F6400. Yes it could be better, but I think it strikes an awesome balance of size, quality and price.
Edited by anthonymoody - 6/12/13 at 10:53am
post #191 of 804
I've been using my 55" for two weeks now.

There is no noticable lag or ghosting with any of the PS3 games I've played (Uncharted, Bioshock Infinite, Super Stardust HD, etc)

NBA/NHL games look crystal clear.

I am still watching it on the factory settings, and definitely need to adjust them.
post #192 of 804
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Originally Posted by tony1381 View Post

I've been using my 55" for two weeks now.

There is no noticable lag or ghosting with any of the PS3 games I've played (Uncharted, Bioshock Infinite, Super Stardust HD, etc)

NBA/NHL games look crystal clear.

I am still watching it on the factory settings, and definitely need to adjust them.

Tony I would recommend checking out Buzz' calibrated settings in the F8000 thread. They are a pretty good starting place...

Enjoy and glad to hear you like it so far.
post #193 of 804
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1381 View Post

I've been using my 55" for two weeks now.

There is no noticable lag or ghosting with any of the PS3 games I've played (Uncharted, Bioshock Infinite, Super Stardust HD, etc)

NBA/NHL games look crystal clear.

I am still watching it on the factory settings, and definitely need to adjust them.

Wow. If you're still liking it at factory defaults, you're gonna love it when you tweak it a bit.

At the very least, you can turn off the Eco Sensor and Motion Lighting off to stop it from "auto dimming" constantly. The micro dimming will still work on dark screens and black bars.

Also, turning the sharpness down will make HD content look better. No artifical edges or halos around text, no more jagged edges around stuff like chainlink fences, etc.
post #194 of 804
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonymoody View Post

Tony I would recommend checking out Buzz' calibrated settings in the F8000 thread. They are a pretty good starting place...

Enjoy and glad to hear you like it so far.

Would you please post a link of Buzz' calibrated settings post (I am still searchin the huge F8000 thread) . Thanks in Advance.
post #195 of 804
I pasted them into a word doc because he'd done several,different posts...day, night, 3D, instructions to enable day and night modes in the service menu, etc.

Note, I did not enable the day and night modes. I used the Day settings below (which tweaks a subset of the settings from Night; so I started with Night settings then adjusted the handful he lists for Day). This looks great on mine and I'm sticking with it until/unless I get a pro calibration..

Note too that we don't have a couple of these settings. Also, I use AMP Clear instead of his custom settings. And, hdmi black level set to Low.



Samsung F8000 Calibrated Settings

3D

And here are the numbers....

****Press the 3D button on the remote and select 2D>3D to put the F8000 into the 3D mode

Turn off everything that says Auto to Off Except Film Auto2 in Picture Options

Movie Mode - ****2D and 3D on the same HDMI Input have separate memories
Backlight 20
Contrast 100
Brightness 46
Sharpness 0
Color 50
Tint 50/50
Picture Size - Screen Fit

3D
Perspective 0
Frame Depth 5
Light Control > High

Advanced Mode - off, off, 0, and off

Color Space - Custom
R R38 G0 B6
G 15 23 9
B 9 0 51
Y 47 52 9
C 14 51 53
M 41 0 48

White Balance 27 29 28 0 8 50

10p White Balance - not accessible in 3D mode

Gamma -3

Picture Options
Color Temp Warm2
Dig Clean View - off
Mpeg - off
Film - Auto 2
Auto Motion Plus - Custom - Blur 10 - Judder 5 - LED Clear Motion Off
Smart LED Off
Cinema Black Off

Apply Picture Source - Current Source





Night Calibration - 32.1 Foot Lamberts max light output

Turn off everything that says Auto to Off Except Film Auto2 in Picture Options

Movie Mode
Backlight 7
Contrast 90
Brightness 45
Sharpness 0
Color 50
Tint 50/50
Picture Size - Screen Fit

Advanced Mode - off, off 0, and off
Color Space - Custom
R R44 G0 B4
G 15 52 0
B 0 8 45
Y 54 53 0
C 10 50 51
M 43 7 43

White Balance 23 23 25 16 25 27

10p White Balance
1 0 -1 -3
2 1 0 -1
3 2 2 0
4 1 2 1
5 2 2 0
6 0 0 0
7 0 0 0
8 -2 -2 -2
9 0 0 0
10 0 0 0

Gamma -1

Picture Options
Color Temp Warm2
Dig Clean View - off
Mpeg - off
Film - Auto 2
Auto Motion Plus - Custom - Blur 10 - Judder 5 - LED Clear Motion Off
Smart LED Off
Cinema Black Off

Apply Picture Source - Current Source



Day Calibration 51.5 Foot Lamberts Max Light Output

I used Cal-Day - The F8000 cross posts the CMS and the 10p White Balance so only the 2 point White Balance is new for the meter required settings

Backlight 12
Contrast 90
Brightness 46
Sharp 0
Color 50
Tint 50/50

White Balance 24 26 26 16 25 27

Gamma 0

Everything else is the same.


Service Menu

Please don't touch anything in the SM other than what I post below. You can brick your TV.

You need the old style remote. I haven't figured out the code in the new one.

1. Turn the TV Off.
2. With the remote control press Mute, 1, 8, 2, Power. It takes a few seconds and then the SM will appear
3. Arrow down to SVC and press the Enter button in the center of the arrows
4. Arrow down to Expert and press Enter
5 .Right click on N/D ADJ to ON --- NOT FIX
6. Press Enter
7. Press Power
8. Wait a few seconds
9. Press Power
10. The Picture Mode will start in Dynamic
11. Change Picture Mode
12. Done


Auto start -off (so that the smart menu does not come up when you turn the set on)
an option named "Auto Start" which was set to on. I changed it to Off and it does like I want. This setting is found under Smart Features -> On TV Settings.
post #196 of 804
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Originally Posted by tony1381 View Post

I just received word that is my 55" was delivered today.

If anyone wants me to do any sort of testing on here, let me know (but please be descriptive in how exactly the test will be executed (gaming lag, etc..) since I am still very green when it comes to HDTV's.
I would appreciate some input lag tests! smile.gif

Howto: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1229335064
You dont have to compare with a CRT, laptop or computer monitor is also OK.

Make sure to use short shutter speeds (i.e. take the measurements in a bright environment) so it is possible to clearly read the digits.
post #197 of 804
I was hoping somebody might be able to tell me how much spotlighting is reasonable. I understand that a little is probably just something everyone has to deal with, but I have to spots in the upper and lower left that seem fairly large. Please excuse the awful picture, but quality aside it actually shows the spotlighting perfectly. This is on a 75 inch. That aside... this TV is amazing.

post #198 of 804
Hi there just want to know if anyone can help me out with what tv I should go for, I sit 13.5ft away and currently have a 65es8000 but am having problems with it so I am getting a upgrade under warranty. I have two options 65f8000 or 75f6400 I am leaning towards the 75f6400 but don't want to loose pq on my 65es8000 in saying that bigger is better, any advice would be good.
thanks
post #199 of 804
I too have spotlighting on the my 75" TV. Only on certain occations I could see them. Other than that, PQ on TV is terrific.
I could not spend much time tweaking into features but I need to properly calibrate settings to see if that solves these clouds.
post #200 of 804
Mascot: that is definitely a lot worse than my 75" (frankly my set has nothing like those two large clouds). Mine does have a little flashlight in the lower left corner like yours...it's about 2-3". I can see it in very dark scenes, and in 2.35:1 black bars during darker scenes. Try the settings I posted above for Day and see if that helps?

Marty: I posted a response in your other thread but had an additional thought. I wonder if you could kick in $1500 and get a 75F7100? That way you'd get the benefit of the extra size as well as the local dimming the 6400 lacks. Just a thought.

Tbutchi: yeah try the settings I posted above and see if it improves things.
post #201 of 804
I had some slight clouding...i got rid of it by turning off the tv and using a microfiber cloth and gently rubbing back and forth left to right top to bottom making sure I overlapped my motions...turned the tv back on in a dark room and I couldnt believe it...the clouds that were there are now gone and the screen looks way better in terms of uniformity...
I was so shocked I couldnt freaking believe it...now to get rid of some of the vertical banding.
Edited by SMO5007 - 6/18/13 at 12:49pm
post #202 of 804
I wish a had a before and after shot...
Question guys/girls anyone experiencing any ghost during movies shows? Happens when someone moves their face back n forth quickly..
Also I notice that some dvds/blurays the black bars seem to be darker then others...idk just weird...i might do a factory reset....ive messed w the settings so much...
The blacks dont look black more like a glowing black...not inky kind of reminds me of a plasma
Backlight 7
Brightness 42
post #203 of 804
I used the rub it out method (heh) to great effect on my 70" Vizio (which I ultimately returned). Haven't tried it yet on the Sammy bc I really don't have clouding to speak of.

I may try to loosen the rear screw in the lower left corner to see if that helps the flashlight there. That's really the only "flaw" in my set. It doesn't bother me too much but if I can make it better, all the better.

SMO I'm set like this:

Backlight 12
Contrast 90
Brightness 46
Sharp 0
Color 50
Tint 50/50

...per the Day settings above.
post #204 of 804
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonymoody View Post

Tony I would recommend checking out Buzz' calibrated settings in the F8000 thread. They are a pretty good starting place...

Enjoy and glad to hear you like it so far.


Thanks, I just saw this.

I'll check those out.
post #205 of 804
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1381 View Post

Thanks, I just saw this.

I'll check those out.

In the interim I collated them and pasted them a few posts up...
post #206 of 804
Quote:
Originally Posted by MascotRay View Post

I was hoping somebody might be able to tell me how much spotlighting is reasonable. I understand that a little is probably just something everyone has to deal with, but I have to spots in the upper and lower left that seem fairly large. Please excuse the awful picture, but quality aside it actually shows the spotlighting perfectly. This is on a 75 inch. That aside... this TV is amazing.


What is your brightness and backlight set to?
That does seem like a lot.... I have the 65" 6400 and my clouding was middle bottom and upper left....
try turning the backlight/brightness down that might help...
also you could try to do what I did...
Edited by SMO5007 - 6/18/13 at 5:56pm
post #207 of 804
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonymoody View Post

I used the rub it out method (heh) to great effect on my 70" Vizio (which I ultimately returned). Haven't tried it yet on the Sammy bc I really don't have clouding to speak of.

I may try to loosen the rear screw in the lower left corner to see if that helps the flashlight there. That's really the only "flaw" in my set. It doesn't bother me too much but if I can make it better, all the better.

SMO I'm set like this:

Backlight 12
Contrast 90
Brightness 46
Sharp 0
Color 50
Tint 50/50

...per the Day settings above.

A little bright but blacks look better.
It feels like my eyes are being torched lol.. in a dark room.
I turned on the eco sensor on low helped a lttle with being so bright
post #208 of 804
Quote:
Originally Posted by SMO5007 View Post

I had some slight clouding...i got rid of it by turning off the tv and using a microfiber cloth and gently rubbing back and forth left to right top to bottom making sure I overlapped my motions...turned the tv back on in a dark room and I couldnt believe it...the clouds that were there are now gone and the screen looks way better in terms of uniformity...
I was so shocked I couldnt freaking believe it...now to get rid of some of the vertical banding.

I'm curious...does the "rub out" method also work on flashlighting, or just on clouding?
post #209 of 804
Flash lighting is a form of clouding same thing
I call it a cloud bec it kindof looks like a cloud..
But to some people might look like a flashlight behind the screen shining through..
post #210 of 804
The way I understand it is that flashlighting is the light from the corners inward that look like flashlight beams, caused by the "edge-lit" configuration of the LED backlights (which is why it isn't a problem with full array/direct-lit LEDs). Clouding is the random shapeless masses of light that can appear anywhere on the screen. Therefore, clouding may be caused by a variety of things, like pressure, while flashlighting may just be an inherent con to edge-lit LEDs?

So I understand the concept of "rubbing out" clouding...but does it work with flashlighting as well?
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