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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Did you try Plasma TV Buying Guides settings? I think his calibration was trying to achieve a bright picture.

No I haven't tried them...but I will try them tonight. And Custom is open...which is perfect. Thanks for the tip.
post #10052 of 13986
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Originally Posted by yaqushi View Post

Hey guys,

shorty, although this question might have been asked already, i couldnt find a conclusive answer: 

I want to connect my PS3 for 3D via HDMI to the TV and at the same time get HD audio at my AVR:
My AVR is a Yamaha Z7 (similar to RX3900), and this one has only HDMI 1.3, so i assume that means no ARC. 

When PS3 is connected to AVR, i do get the HD audio via HDMI, but the 3D picture is not sent through. 

Hence, for getting 3D form the PS3 i must connect the PS3 directly to the TV. The optical cable from TV to AVR however doesnt transmit HD audio. 

What's your solution here other than buying a new AVR? 
Buy a new Blu-ray player with dual HDMI outputs?
post #10053 of 13986
Anyone thinking about leaving their plasma for one of the 2014 FALD LED TV's? Curious how they are going to stack up to the VT60/ZT60. If they are able to get rid of clouding and flashlighting we might start to have a real battle on our hands.

What do you guys think? Are LCD's really ready to take on plasma's or do we have nothing to worry about still intil OLED comes to town.
post #10054 of 13986
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Anyone thinking about leaving their plasma for one of the 2014 FALD LED TV's? Curious how they are going to stack up to the VT60/ZT60. If they are able to get rid of clouding and flashlighting we might start to have a real battle on our hands.

What do you guys think? Are LCD's really ready to take on plasma's or do we have nothing to worry about still intil OLED comes to town.

Getting rid of the clouding and fashlighting are big "ifs". Blacks and contrast still remain a major concern too.
post #10055 of 13986
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

Getting rid of the clouding and fashlighting are big "ifs". Blacks and contrast still remain a major concern too.
Isn't the clouding and flashlighting mainly due to edge lit technology? If they are now full array wouldn't that get rid of those issues? Also with real zones and dimming that should definitley help with contrast levels and blacks I would think.

I am not going to lie, the Vizio 4K P series which is one under thier flag ship sounds really good on paper and the price it pretty amazing. I think it is like $2,299 for the 65" or somewhere near that. Put is priced right around where the 65VT60 is currently selling for.
post #10056 of 13986
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Anyone thinking about leaving their plasma for one of the 2014 FALD LED TV's? Curious how they are going to stack up to the VT60/ZT60. If they are able to get rid of clouding and flashlighting we might start to have a real battle on our hands.

What do you guys think? Are LCD's really ready to take on plasma's or do we have nothing to worry about still intil OLED comes to town.

I traded the 60ST60 because of image retention for the Sony 55W900A and it had one of the best and most uniformed panels I have seen since I got my Sharp 8 yrs ago. I know a lot of people talk and compare LED/LCD to Plasma, but honestly the only trade off between to the 2 sets was I lost some black level. Color and contrast was still spot on with the ST60 and sports was absolutely gorgeous on the W900A. Truly the best LED/LCD of 2013.


**I should add that between the ST60 and the W900A I tried the Samsung 60 F8000 and it had bad flash lighting and clouding**
Edited by CaptinCrunch - 1/9/14 at 12:19pm
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How are the viewing angles on the W900A i have heard they are not good ?
post #10058 of 13986
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

How are the viewing angles on the W900A i have heard they are not good ?

Not as good as the ST60, but not as bad as some make it out to be. It's just me and the girlfriend so we have our spot out front wink.gif
post #10059 of 13986
Thanks for the info almost went for that set, enjoy smile.gif
post #10060 of 13986
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Originally Posted by CaptinCrunch View Post

Not as good as the ST60, but not as bad as some make it out to be. It's just me and the girlfriend so we have our spot out front wink.gif
Just moved my couches to the sides of the TV so I can be closer to the screen so viewing angles are pretty high on my list due to my seating.
post #10061 of 13986
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Just moved my couches to the sides of the TV so I can be closer to the screen so viewing angles are pretty high on my list due to my seating.
Another reason for you to hold out for OLED.
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@ eric3316....Damn son how close to the screen do you want to be....lol

@ vinnie97....I wont buy into OLED till it's been a tested product in the full consumer market place for at least 5 years to see how they hold up. No since in spending $$$$$ for a TV that burns out in 2-3 years.
Edited by CaptinCrunch - 1/9/14 at 1:12pm
post #10063 of 13986
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Isn't the clouding and flashlighting mainly due to edge lit technology? If they are now full array wouldn't that get rid of those issues? Also with real zones and dimming that should definitley help with contrast levels and blacks I would think.

I am not going to lie, the Vizio 4K P series which is one under thier flag ship sounds really good on paper and the price it pretty amazing. I think it is like $2,299 for the 65" or somewhere near that. Put is priced right around where the 65VT60 is currently selling for.

Often the case, but the full array Sony XBR a couple of years ago had those issues but it seemed to vary from model to model.

Kind of interesting what Vizio is doing, but sounds a bit too good to be too true also.
post #10064 of 13986
one of the issues in LCD land is that 65 inch models suffered from vertical banding due to how they layered the screen filter (see my profile for an example). They issue was only in the big screen sizes though; 60inches and below only had the flashliting, blooming, and clouding issues.
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Originally Posted by CaptinCrunch View Post

@ eric3316....Damn son how close to the screen do you want to be....lol.
It's not right on the side of the TV, lol. The closest seat is still about 8-9 feet away. Before the couch was totally opposite the TV and was about 12-14 feet away.
post #10066 of 13986
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

How are the viewing angles on the W900A i have heard they are not good ?
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Originally Posted by CaptinCrunch View Post

Not as good as the ST60, but not as bad as some make it out to be. It's just me and the girlfriend so we have our spot out front wink.gif

As Chunon knows I had a Sony w900 for almost two weeks before deciding to return it precisely because of what I felt were very poor viewing angles. I have a double recliner couch which means that two people customarily sit on the outside seat on each end. They are around 25 degrees off center and even at that angle blacks (including the top and bottom mattes on movies shot in more than 1.85:1 aspect ratios) on the far edge's began to lighten up. That was enough to negatively offset the Sony's admittedly very bright and lively picture. Most people probably don't mind the narrow angles but when you're used to what plasma's do in this area, it's more difficult to accept.
post #10067 of 13986
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Originally Posted by CaptinCrunch View Post

@ vinnie97....I wont buy into OLED till it's been a tested product in the full consumer market place for at least 5 years to see how they hold up. No since in spending $$$$$ for a TV that burns out in 2-3 years.
Hence the "hold out" remark...
post #10068 of 13986
65VT60 delivery scheduled for Thursday, Jan 16th, my house. tongue.gif Any guess on what the chances are I get a unit with one of the known problems i.e. bad fan, bad IR, visible lines and have to return it...? 15%? Bit of buyer's dread here.
post #10069 of 13986
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Originally Posted by neumei626 View Post

65VT60 delivery scheduled for Thursday, Jan 16th, my house. tongue.gif Any guess on what the chances are I get a unit with one of the known problems i.e. bad fan, bad IR, visible lines and have to return it...? 15%? Bit of buyer's dread here.

Just got mine Tuesday delivery was terrible but so far Plasma looks great running slides right now and checking panel it looks great fans are pretty quiet only hear when standing next to it. October build date mine was purchased at amazon they did give me a $100 credit on Tv for delivery problems.
post #10070 of 13986
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Originally Posted by kbat69 View Post


Thanks but I am not looking for my routers WPS pin (already have that). I am looking for the TV's WPS Pin.


Was a resolution to this noted somewhere? I am having the exact same issue with Windows 8.1 on my Surface tablet.

post #10071 of 13986
Ok, Tired of all these remotes..What Model Remote and were to get at good cost. People mention Harmony. Please help smile.gif
post #10072 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Denniswrly View Post

Ok, Tired of all these remotes..What Model Remote and were to get at good cost. People mention Harmony. Please help smile.gif

Logitech Harmony one, best remote you will ever have.
post #10073 of 13986
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Originally Posted by drogtor View Post


Was a resolution to this noted somewhere? I am having the exact same issue with Windows 8.1 on my Surface tablet.

Not that I am aware of. Seems like no one else is having this issue or is not speaking up about it.

As soon as I get this working I will post the solution. Please do the same.
post #10074 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Empty Set View Post

How are folks enjoying gaming on the VT60?

I've read quite a few impressions/reviews here, but now that the big holiday sales have come and gone and the next gen systems are officially current-gen, I figured I'd solicit some post-honeymoon reflections.

For context, I'm coming from an ancient 42px500u and mostly play shooters like Halo and COD. Games still look pretty good (and responsive) on my old panel, but it is definitely showing its age with any other content, so I'm considering one of the VT60s before they're gone forever.

I play my PS4 a LOT. Battlefield 4. it looks awesome.
I came from a 2009 Panasonic Plasma 54ps1 model.
I recently (for 3 weeks) had a Sharp 70" 7450u LED. My God it sucks. The picture quality & gaming lag.

Just got my 65"vt60 Tuesday and am gaming on it. Its perfect.
I wish I couldve bought a 70 or 75 inch plasma, but 65" will do smile.gif

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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

Buy a new Blu-ray player with dual HDMI outputs?

Thats what I did.
I have a Pioneer Elite SC27 which Im not parting with.
Bought a Panasonic BDT500 from Amazon for $150 or so (brand new solds/ships via amazon) and thats how I get my 3d blurays to play on the 65VT60 & lossless to my 1.3 SC27 receiver smile.gif
post #10075 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

Logitech Harmony one, best remote you will ever have.
The Harmony One has been discontinued. The Harmony Touch is its replacement.
post #10076 of 13986
I posted this in its own thread by mistake so I'll put up here:

My 55VT60 is now a week old and two issues have come up. The first is motion judder. I am seeing quite a bit of it on many Blu-rays using the 96hz mode with the motion smoother on weak and 1080p Pure Direct mode turned on. It occurs with the smoother off as well. The judder is considerably more noticeable than it was on my ST30 using the 60hz mode with the smoother on weak. I've also seen some stuttering on the cable broadcasts as well but II haven't watched enough of them yet to pin down their frequency. All of the reviews indicate that the VT60s handle motion very well but that has not been my experience so far. Isn't the 60hz setting supposed to be worse with judder than the 96hz setting?

The second issue is really odd. Every now and then, when a blu-ray is running (Sony BDP-790 into a Denon AVR591 into HDMI 2 on the TV), the HDMI 2 gray input indicator appears in the top left corner for a few seconds as though the input had changed. There doesn't seem to be anything in particular causing this but it is pretty annoying when it occurs. Has anyone seen anything like this or have any thoughts on its cause and/or the motion handling problems? I have 3 weeks left in my Amazon return window but they are now out of stock on the 55' sets and show Paul's with only six left at $200 more than I paid so a return would be a last resort action at this point. Thanks.
post #10077 of 13986
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

The Harmony One has been discontinued. The Harmony Touch is its replacement.

Well that sucks the Harmony One hard keys look like they would be more favorable for my remote control usage.
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What component should I buy next to make a make a better movie experience? New bluray player like Oppo 103 (I have a PS3 now)? New receiver (I have a Sony STRDH520 which is low end but can do 7.1). Darbee? Power conditioner? Tv back light? I have good enough speakers.
Edited by XBR11 - 1/10/14 at 9:53am
post #10079 of 13986
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Originally Posted by maynerd View Post

Well that sucks the Harmony One hard keys look like they would be more favorable for my remote control usage.
So is the H-Touch just as good and same configure etc:)
post #10080 of 13986
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Originally Posted by XBR11 View Post

What component should I buy next to make a make a better movie experience? New bluray player like Oppo 103 (I have a PS3 now)? New receiver (I have a Sony STRDH520 which is low end but can do 7.1). Darbee? Power conditioner? Tv back light? I have good enough speakers.

The biggest bang for the buck and wow factor would be:

1) Subwoofer
2) Projector Screen
3) Good calibration

power Conditioner is of no use to any digital video.. Darbee will have little impact on a screen smaller than 50 inch (and assuming you seat at least 8 ft away)... Oppo is nice, but PS3 is also pretty nice on its own, especially you are just playing blu-ray.
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